Re: [IceHorses] Re: Mic in Pictures
On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:15:19 -, you wrote: I really think we may be cousins. Do you have any Warburtons on your side of the family tree? No, don't think so though I can't say for sure as I don't have any living relatives that I know of now. Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk --- Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes
RE: [IceHorses] Master of his domain
Is he shaved or just a horse of a different color? I did a pretty extensive trace clip on him week before last. Karen Thomas, NC
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Mic in Pictures
On 10/15/07, Mic Rushen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:15:19 -, you wrote: I really think we may be cousins. Do you have any Warburtons on your side of the family tree? No, don't think so though I can't say for sure as I don't have any living relatives that I know of now. Mic maybe people who own icelandics all start looking like their horses after a while :) Janice-- yipie tie yie yo
RE: [IceHorses] Eitill - a black horse
That is one cute donkey..I bet he is a pistol. Sylvia Thanks! But, Buck is actually a mini-mule. He's about 11H. :) Karen Thomas, NC
[IceHorses] beastly behavior
I posted that nasi got into my bumper pull trailer tackroom, very small, FULL of post trip junk, saddles, tack, even dirty clothes in bags. I posted how I had caught him about to actually step into it. Then yesterday when i got around to cleaning it, I find he had a great time demolishing a huge amount of stuff, overturning my grooming box and dumping everything out, snatched down saddle blankets from the racks, drug out a tray containing fly sprays, ointments, detanglers and scattered it everywhere. the only thing totally missing? Can't find hide nor hair of it? a small quart sized container of sweet feed I use as treats. He musta ate it container and all is what I figure. what a little GOAT. Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] Eitill - a black horse
In a message dated 10/15/2007 7:58:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Karen, you know I don't know a thing about mule's now that is a cross between a donkey and a what? Paint what ever the other half is right? Cute, Cute and what do you do with this type animal? Ride, Pack, drive? Are they a willing subject? You have to adopt donkeys out here that look like another planet dropped them in the desert. I have a Realtor friend that has mules she shows. Big ones. Sylvia ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
Re: [IceHorses] Equine Podiatry
In a message dated 10/14/2007 8:59:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) For what the farrier's charge here to trim they ought to have a degree in something. In one hour or less the man earns $80.00 on two horses. I think its outrageous that they charge that much and have no clue what they are doing. My pony was lame for weeks after his last visit. I since have hired a barefoot specialist. I am happy with her work. Sylvia ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
[IceHorses] Oilskin jacket
I won a long oilskin riding coat on eBay for a great price--it arrived today and has lots of creases from being packaged. I was reading that warming it will remove the creases, and that you shouldn't 'hang' oilskin but rather roll it. How do those of you who have oilskin jackets care for them? Thanks, V
[IceHorses] Re: What Are They Applauding?!?!
Judy, do you mind if I forward this on to one or two people? Let me know what your people think Well, I've sent it to the President of FEIF (along with a quote from his welfare letter) and the entire FEIF sport committee. It will be interesting to see if I get any reply at all... Mic, any response from anyone on this? Judy
RE: [IceHorses] Master of his domain
I did a pretty extensive trace clip on him week before last. Could you please come over and do mine? They are like bears. I am going to work on them today. Lorraine Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC
Re: [IceHorses] beastly behavior
is what I figure. what a little GOAT. Janice What a little rascal. Lorraine Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
Re: [IceHorses] Oilskin jacket
In a message dated 10/15/2007 8:59:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a full length riding one with a hat to match. It hangs in my coat closet and is fine. I have worn the thing maybe twice in years. Of course it doesn't rain here much. One year our dog specialty had a monsoon and I took it with me. I was the only one dry. Worked great. Sylvia ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
[IceHorses] Translation / Icelandic
Anyone have a general translation of what is being said here: http://www.hugi.is/hestar/threads.php?page=viewcontentId=4934111 Thanks! Judy
Re: [IceHorses] Re: What Are They Applauding?!?!
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:10:17 -, you wrote: Mic, any response from anyone on this? No, not a thing. I'm not surprised - disappointed, but not surprised. However, one good result - I went to a show at the weekend, and there was not one Icelandic bit used with a flash noseband. One competitor used a tom thumb with a flash (but used it well and the horse was not resisting at all), another used the same combination and the horse was not so happy, but it's a big improvement on the last show. There was a lot of discussion on the GB list about Icelandic bits used with flashes - seems like some of it penetrated. Interestingly, any horses that were not shod at the show a month ago are now shod. We've had a lot of wet weather, and a farrier I was chatting with said many of his clients who normally ride barefoot can't at the moment as there horse's feet are so soggy and soft. Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk --- Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes
[IceHorses] Today's quotes
New opinions are always suspected, and usually opposed, without any other reason but because they are not already common. - John Locke and When God created the horse He said to the magnificent creature: I have made thee as no other. All the treasures of the earth lie between thy eyes. Thou shalt carry my friends upon thy back. Thy saddle shall be the seat of prayers to me. And thou fly without wings, and conquer without any sword. Oh, horse. - The Koran -- Laree When you're young and you fall off a horse, you may break something. When you're my age and you fall off, you splatter - Roy Rogers
RE: [IceHorses] Beat The Attitude Out of Him
-Original Message- From: IceHorses@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Virginia Tupper Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 5:28 AM To: IceHorses@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [IceHorses] Beat The Attitude Out of Him On 10/14/07, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.icehorsenews.com/news.asp?View=ArticleID=1056 Oh yeah--I bet that would work. Not! V .. I took the article to be written in a sarcastic mode and that Magnus was against the idea that you can beat the attitude out of the horse. I sometimes think much of the nuance of these articles is lost in the translation to English. I know Susan Hodgson, Robyn's sister has been doing some editing of the English translations for Edfaxi and she has found it very difficult to ensure she is not changing the intended meaning of some pieces. Often she has to contact the authors to find out what they were really trying to convey. Phil Icelandic Horse Farm Robyn Hood Phil Pretty Vernon BC Canada www.icefarm.com
Re: [IceHorses] Coverall
--- Virginia Tupper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have a Coverall riding arena and/or barn? They look like they'd be a nice, bright building for indoor riding. Just wondering about the cost, how people like them, etc. V We worked at a barn for a few years with a coverall riding arena...it was nice to ride in..The issue for her was not putting in good fencing around the sides where the building comes down to meet the footings...so she never let her horses in there without being ridden. I would want to make sure they could not gain access to the sidesa nice pipe rail would work nicely on the 2 sides where the walls come down.if you get one make sure and situate it so that you either have the walls blocking your wind or not, depending on your needsit is nice and light inside, the lighting was great, and the ceiling is very very highvery expansive and dry. Skye Fire Island Farms Breeding Quality Icelandic Trail Horses Certified Farrier Services 'Natural Balance' Shoeing and Trimming. Founder, Navicular options for your horse. 808-640-6080
Re: [IceHorses] RE: Buck
We adopted Buck 2.5 years ago from the rescue agency. He was part of a seizure of a bunch of horses from horrible conditions. There were several dead draft horses on the premises, and I understand that some of the ones rescued with Buck didn't make it. They thought he was about 2-3 years old then. When we got him, we could barely get a halter on him, and only sort of lead him...and he'd kick out in a heartbeat if he felt trapped. And forget handling his feet. Wow what a terrible thing to happen to them. We have horses starved here also. I turned one in myself that I watched and knew they were not feeding him right. So sad. Well I know nothing about hinny's either. Cute what ever he is. The hair cuts, good thing he was not adopted by the saddle bred people. Every year when I was keeping my horses at a stable maybe thirty five or so years ago. The horses had their hair stolen right before show time. It was funny now that I think of it. Sylvia ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
Re: [IceHorses] Oilskin jacket
On 10/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One year our dog specialty had a monsoon and I took it with me. I was the only one dry. Worked great. Sylvia I like that they're waterproof and that they should cut the wind! V
RE: [IceHorses] Coverall
-Original Message- From: IceHorses@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Virginia Tupper Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 2:26 PM All the photos I've seen have looked nice and bright. I've noticed that there are other brands besides Coverall but they all look the same to mehow does one know which is better? V ... We have a Cover-All and love it. The quality is very good but I think the local dealer has a great influence our satisfaction. All buildings need maintenance and our local Cover-all dealer makes a point of sending people out each spring to do an inspection and tighten where needed or point out things I need to take care of. My guess is that the various fabric buildings are similar to each other. Some features from one brand being superior in one and the reverse for other brands. My suggestion is to find local dealers of any buildings you are considering and ask where you can visit structures they have put up. Ideally you want to see some that have a few years use on them to see how they stand up to your weather. Ask the customers what they like and what they might have done differently. Someone mentioned fencing in the Cover-all. We used 4 Spur brand Polymer fencing in on the inside attached to the actual trusses. There are tensioners on each end. Outside we have wooden rail fencing. Phil Icelandic Horse Farm Robyn Hood Phil Pretty Vernon BC Canada www.icefarm.com
[IceHorses] Another Charm
Here's another Charm, who looks more like a big Tivar: http://youtube.com/arlcolon Judy
RE: [IceHorses] Re: Beat The Attitude Out of Him
It probably would have made the story more interesting and educational if they solved the bolting problem :-) As the story went, I didn't see that it was of much value. Hopefully, MOST caring people know not to beat the attitude out of a horse who is confused or in pain. Determining actually what to do is much more complicated though. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.10/1070 - Release Date: 10/14/2007 9:22 AM
RE: [IceHorses] Beat The Attitude Out of Him
I sometimes think much of the nuance of these articles is lost in the translation to English. It didn't seem like there was much room for nuance in that particular article. There was no hint of a solution offered that I saw. Pointing out that something as extreme as beating it out of him is wrong is hardly an earth-shattering revelation for thinking horsemen of the 21st century Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.10/1070 - Release Date: 10/14/2007 9:22 AM IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic. All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [IceHorses] Re: Beat The Attitude Out of Him
As the story went, I didn't see that it was of much value. I think the value of the story for me, and why it was posted here, is to get a feel of how the Icelanders think, where they stand in regard to horse training and handling. Also, when there were alot of Icelandics with bolting problems several years ago, someone said that it was the fault of the riders since Icelandics in Iceland don't bolt. This article sort of negates that. I don't know what problem the horse has. It could be a saddle fit issue. I made a mistake in the title as it should have been Beat the Attitude out of It (rather than him), as mentioned in the article. That also gives us a feel as to how they think of the horse. Judy
Re: [IceHorses] Another Charm
Here's another Charm, who looks more like a big Tivar: What a cool horse. Was she clucking with her mouth? Lorraine Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC
[IceHorses] Charm's Ground Driving Lesson
Here's our very loose ground driving lesson with Charm: http://iceryder.net/videocharmdrive.html As mentioned, we don't have a person to lead her while she gets used to someone behind, so I decided to use the old standby of how I originally taught Ljufur to ride bridleless... go for treats between two buckets. It works. Judy
Re: [IceHorses] Charm's Ground Driving Lesson
--- Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's our very loose ground driving lesson with Charm: Good job Charm. I see you found some of those pilons. Did ya steal them from a construction crew?? LOL Lorraine Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545469
Re: [IceHorses] getting a Dagur to go away
HAHA!! Looks like when I managed to clip huginn. ;]
Re: [IceHorses] Charm's Ground Driving Lesson
Charm is such a doll and such a delight. I have been so marked by my past life with volatile horses, I could only watch that video with half my mind thinking that's going so well and the other half thinking there was going to be a huge wreck when she stepped over a line. I have never driven a horse without a surcingle and no matter how many Icelandics I have a chance to ground drive, I probably never will. I don't have any way to get videos, but Tosca is driving over bridges, over and between poles and opening and closing the gait while being driven. Today was supposed to be a Tosca riding day, but a friend wanted to go trail ride before the predicted rain started. We got out about half way when it started to pour. Yuck. Nancy
[IceHorses] Sun River Game Range
Here's some videos that Angela (of gaitedhorse list) took today of the Sun River Game Range, Montana: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nROcTHaoxSEmode=usersearch= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iznTwY6Yyn0mode=usersearch= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNRAB_nG2Swmode=usersearch= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzDeMCvo-Nomode=usersearch= Judy
Re: [IceHorses] getting a Dagur to go away
wanted to turn around and I corrected him. Over and over. I am exausted. Barn sour, huh? Kevin and I are going to take them out tomorrow together. Let us know how it goes. Judy
Re: [IceHorses] Charm's Ground Driving Lesson
thinking that's going so well and the other half thinking there was going to be a huge wreck when she stepped over a line. Yes, it could happen. I feel pretty secure with her temperment and working with lines. We've done enough practice with ropes to build up to this point of confidence in her mental stability. I have never driven a horse without a surcingle and no matter how many Icelandics I have a chance to ground drive, I probably never will. Not using the surcingle was an active choice. I wanted the session to be pretty free and easy and the lines low. Since she caught on to the go from one bucket to the other pretty easily, it should be fine next time. Again, the lines don't bother her, but I may not do that with another horse! I don't have any way to get videos, but Tosca is driving over bridges, over and between poles and opening and closing the gait while being driven. Super! Can you put the digital camera on video mode, on a fence, or ladder, or table, or truck and just turn it on for a few minutes to capture some of your work? Judy
[IceHorses] Legs, Flight / Tolt News, Quarterly, Set The Pace, Eidfaxi
Have any of these newsletters (Tolt News, Quarterly, Set The Pace, Eidfaxi) done any articles on leg conformation? on the flight of the leg? Judy
[IceHorses] Re: Legs, Form, Function, Flight and Movement
I would like to see video of the front legs in flight, of some evaluated Icelandic Horses. I think it would be good to see some of the stallions particularly, but any evaluated horse would be good. Anyone up for video'ing their horses' legs and flight? We need to learn more about the conformation of the front legs, and the biomechanics. I realize that this can make people and their horses vulnerable, but I think that, at some point, attention should be paid to breeding good functional legs, and we can only do that with knowledge and education. You can send the video to me anonymously if you want. And if you don't want to do that, at least go out and video your horse's legs and analyze the video. Try to look at it with an unbiased eye. Figure out if your breeding stock have legs good enough to reproduce. Thanks! Judy
Re: [IceHorses] getting a Dagur to go away
--- Raven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HAHA!! Looks like when I managed to clip huginn. ;] I know it is ugly but it will feel better. Lorraine Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/index.html
[IceHorses] Re: What Are They Applauding?!?!
was not one Icelandic bit used with a flash noseband. One competitor used a tom thumb with a flash (but used it well and the horse was not resisting at all), another used the same combination and the horse was not so happy, but it's a big improvement on the last show. There was a lot of discussion on the GB list about Icelandic bits used with flashes - seems like some of it penetrated. Wooo-h!!! Great! Interestingly, any horses that were not shod at the show a month ago are now shod. We've had a lot of wet weather, and a farrier I was chatting with said many of his clients who normally ride barefoot can't at the moment as there horse's feet are so soggy and soft. Well, that's OK. If they have to wear shoes for good reason, that's OK. I'm so glad to hear that there is progress being made in the show arena. Good for you, Mic, for getting things moving in a better direction! Judy
[IceHorses] Re: Charm Wears a Bareback Pad
Charm wore a bareback pad the other day while we did some groundwork. Perfect match Judy. Does Teddy like it? Ha! Teddy hadn't tried it up until you said that! I made a little video for you, with Teddy in it: http://youtube.com/watch?v=QTZ1MgzgLnc Judy
[IceHorses] Virtual Charm, For Janice
Janice, I thought you might like to play with Charm, so I made a Virtual Charm for you: http://iceryder.net/virtualcharm.html You can move her around with your mouse (she follows the pointer); touch her legs and she'll rear playfully, brush her and feed her an apple (under the More button). Judy
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Charm Wears a Bareback Pad
Ha! Teddy hadn't tried it up until you said that! I made a little video for you, with Teddy in it: Now that is really a perfect match. Ha Ha Lorraine Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545469
Re: [IceHorses] Virtual Charm, For Janice
Janice, I thought you might like to play with Charm, so I made a Virtual Charm for you: Well I sure had fun playing with her again. Lorraine Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html
