RE: [IceHorses] Two Rescue Icelandics Available
http://iceryder.net/rescue.html JUDY...they are both wonderful...wish I had pasture for them. Poor kids.
Re: [IceHorses] Two Rescue Icelandics Available
>> http://iceryder.net/rescue.html Gosh...they are so darn cute! I hope they find a loving forever home. Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
[IceHorses] Gait Adjustment??
Rider Siggy, farrier Sigurdur Sigurdsson, and Cornell's Michael Wildenstein pose with a furry Icelandic horse (don't call them ponies!) after an in-depth seminar on shoeing and "gait adjustment" on the Icelandic horse. http://tinyurl.com/2jqgbf Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
Re: [IceHorses] Nervous on my pony
In a message dated 11/12/2007 5:31:36 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Eight and a half years ago I was life flighted to trauma with eleven broken bones. I went off my Peruvian Paso gelding. I was having a saddle fitting with a ortho flex saddle and the man spooked my horse and then dropped the rope and he bolted with me on top No reins just that darn orthoflex with a horn. That is why I don't like a saddle with a horn. I can lean forward and duck under most objects without a horn. I was afraid to ride after this. My mare was broke to ride and I got on her twice after she was trained and I was terrified. She was a wonderful 3/4 Icelandic, half sister to my gelding. She was not gaited so I sold her. She has never tolted to this day. She was a good 14 hh so not that its tall but Willie is 12.5 hh and I can really get down quick. For some reason I am not afraid of him. I have gone out on trail with him and he is not really broke to ride that well. I just sent him to training. It took me all this time to get back on a horse, eight years. I have all that mane and the ground so close. Trust me I have gotten off really fast on trail when he acted strange. I calm him down and get back on when he feels safe. I took him through the river bottom with all this bamboo and it was really spooky for both of us. Never know what is going to jump out and grab you down there. Sylvia ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
[IceHorses] Saddle Size ??
Wow. What size saddle does this horse need?http://tinyurl.com/yw7ssp Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
Re: [IceHorses] Two Rescue Icelandics Available
Ohmigosh. They break my heart. They all do. There is an older Arab gelding at Creekside right now. He's a retired endurance horse and the owner is having him evaluated to see if he might be able to go onto some sort of light work situation. He's a wonderful horse with some "issues" and is sad and confused. He has been ridden by the same man for over 10 years.It's hard for me to understand why his owner wouldn't reward his sweet horse for 10 years of hard work by retiring him in his home setting. Nancy
[IceHorses] Two Rescue Icelandics Available
These are two older Icelandics, one mare, one gelding, available for pasture mates. Both located in Los Angeles. They are Von and Sam; click onto the links at this page: http://iceryder.net/rescue.html Judy
[IceHorses] Rescue Remedy
Our children's physical therapist - I still have trouble believing she died last month at age 57 - believed strongly in the benefit of using Bach's Rescue Remedy. I have some in the house. And a wonderful woman horse trainer that used to train from Creekside where I board used it and also Be Calm. I always wondered about the dosing. There didn't seem to be much difference between the human dose and the horse, although the patient weight would be very different. Judy, do you know about dosing amounts? Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Nervous on my pony
Also, take long deep breaths. I would pray in the morning before I would be going to ride, too, for peace and calm and safety. If you don't "pray" per se, meditation would be another calming tool. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Nervous on my pony
On 11/12/07, Lorraine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know that feeling. I need to trust Scooter more. > Although he has been known to bolt. Dagur is very calm (please pardon the typos, our new kitten is determined to post something tonight!) Imagery helped me when I had some pretty major fear issues. I would picture me riding and things going well, and then I'd picture me riding and the horse spooking, bolting, rearing, etc... and me handling it effectively. It helped me through some rough times with my mare. Steph (and Patches who is sitting on my head now) -- "Brutality begins where skill ends." "Correctly understood, work at the lunge line is indispensable for rider and horse from the very beginning through the highest levels." Von Niendorff
[IceHorses] Calm and Cool Pellets
Here's some calming supplements: http://www.jeffersequine.com/ssc/product.asp?CID=1&mscssid=TFL3GXHP4WTP8KJED01V8D733XMT7MA9 Judy
Re: [IceHorses] Nervous on my pony
> It is mainly in my head. Especially near traffic. > I just hyperventilate because of past happening. You can give yourself and your pony some Bach's Rescue Remedy, and put some lavender oil on your hands / wrists. You can also add some B vitamins to the pony's feed, or some B-Kalm: http://www.allivet.com/B-Kalm-Paste-1-2-Oz-Syringe-p/10084.htm or check out the calming supplements on jeffersequine.com : http://www.jeffersequine.com/ssc/search_results.asp?CID=1&mscssid=TFL3GXHP4WTP8KJED01V8D733XMT7MA9&keywords=calm&cmkw=calm Judy
Re: [IceHorses] Nervous on my pony
> before my panic would overwelm me and I would have > to > get off. > I know that feeling. I need to trust Scooter more. Although he has been known to bolt. Dagur is very calm Lorraine Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [IceHorses] Nervous on my pony
> > Wow, Lorraine, that describes me and my TWH mare, > Raven! She does these great 180* spins that used to > leave me in the dust. Boy, did she do a number on > my My girlfriend has the most calmest donkey on earth. It is mainly in my head. Especially near traffic. Scooter was so good today. I just hyperventilate because of past happening. Lorraine Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/
[IceHorses] OT- Inside NYPD - Horses & Dogs
Great links to NYPD ! NYPD Mounted Unit - Episode #4 http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/pr/videos.shtml Also check out the NYPD Canine Unit on Episode #3 Enjoy! Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
Re: [IceHorses] Nervous on my pony
--- Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Without any conversation, my daughter and grandson > walked beside the horse. Truly, I was petrified.<< When I was scared to death to get back on Raven, I had my MOTHER (who was 71 then) lead me around the yard on "pony rides" on Raven. I could last maybe 5 minutes before my panic would overwelm me and I would have to get off. Susan in NV Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [IceHorses] Nervous on my pony
--- Lorraine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Have you ever been nervous because the last horse > you > owned was spooky? How do you get over it<< Wow, Lorraine, that describes me and my TWH mare, Raven! She does these great 180* spins that used to leave me in the dust. Boy, did she do a number on my confidence. So for almost a year, I rode my dead broke, yet fun Icelandic cross mare, Foxi, then got up the nerve to start taking lessons on Raven. The lessons (a year's worth - 2 X's a month) got my confience back, then I had Whisper trained and she is not spooky, but does have issues with backing up into whatever is back there when she doesn't want to go forward first or alone. Now I have steady eddie, Andi, who with only 30 days of professional training, is very trustworthy with us alone on the trail together. I understand Raven better, and will ride her on the trail, but only with a lead horse. I guess the key to get over confidence issues on a particular horse is to take lessons on that horse in a safe environment first with a knowledgable instructor. Take your trail rides on a horse who is more trustworthy. Susan in NV Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/ Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ
Re: [IceHorses] Nervous on my pony
Oh yeah! I bought a very spooky Arab gelding. He was and is a wonderful horse and my grandson has had a lot of fun riding endurance with him and has done really well. Gabriel had not come off of him, but he has baled off a couple of times. After riding Tali for about six months, I finally didn't stay with him and crashed hard on my back and had two vertebrael compression fractures. I had a lot of pain and a lot of fear. When I went to ride again, I started on a quarter horse gelding so quiet that he was nearly dead. Without any conversation, my daughter and grandson walked beside the horse. Truly, I was petrified. I even cried the first few times I rode him down a very short section of single track trail. After I was okay on Dakota, I graduated to Twist (my Standardbred), then I rode Tali a couple of times in the riding ring. Then I bought the very reactive and energetic Hunter. It just comes back slowly, but you really can't let the fear carry over from horse to horse because I think most horses sense our fear and assume that if they we are afraid, then something is truly wrong. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Sidepull
> I just got one of the sidepulls that Kaaren Jordan's > husband makes. It is > really gorgeous and wonderfully made. I am so > pleased. > > Nancy, Please send a picture with it on your horsie. Lorraine __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [IceHorses] This is cute
> > > type in a command, the little puppy will do what you > ask. > That is so neato Lorraine __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: [IceHorses] Dagur in red
> > Lorraine, I cringe every time I see creamellos or > palominos in red. I own an That is wild. That has never happened to any of the 3 Palominos I have owned. I usually use blue though. I thought I would be different that day. Lorraine __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [IceHorses] o/t my front pasture
> As I was sitting having tea this morning...this was > my view. That is so cool Lorraine __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [IceHorses] Raven - Huggin
. > Tried to beat the > heat (61). When I did evening chores, he came into > the barn dripping > wet. Poor baby. > I am sorry to hear about your heatwave. Lorraine __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[IceHorses] Nervous on my pony
Have you ever been nervous because the last horse you owned was spooky? How do you get over it Lorraine __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [IceHorses] This is cute
On 11/12/07, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How in the world did they do that? > > And what breed? He's so cute. > Looks like a Yorkie with a puppy cut. Most people don't want to mess with the long hair and grooming that goes with it so they have the dog groomed with this type of cut. We keep ours long, but unless you wrap the hair, you won't get the really long show coats that people associate with Yorkies -- Anna Southern Ohio
[IceHorses] What's In Your Feed?
>From Diane: R! I was on the phone with a gal from a feed mill in a town about 30 miles from here. Apparently they make their own horse feed over there that the local Cenex stores, including the one in Whitehall will begin to stock. I checked because with gas prices going up, if the feed is as good as what I buy at Stockman's in Osseo (about a 20 mile drive from here), I'd save some gas $$. Well, she said it's locally made and they use a liquid called 419 which is 4% fat, 19% protein in it instead of molasses, which might be okay for fat horses at risk for insulin resistance, except the 419 is made from animal products. So I asked her what kind of animal products and why on earth would animal products be put in horse feed when horses eat grass, not other dead animals. She got kind of bent out of shape and said because it's a good product and she was not going to get into that with me. What the hell?? If these mills/businesses are going to be selling feed shouldn't they be a little more aware of what's going into that feed and maybe they shouldn't be putting dead animal stuff in feed for an animal that does not consume meat instead of getting all bent out of shape over a question? I guess I'll spend the extra gas money and buy my feed in Osseo. At least the protein source in that feet comes from plant proteins, not other dead animals.
Re: [IceHorses] This is cute
How in the world did they do that? And what breed? He's so cute. Nancy
[IceHorses] Sidepull
I just got one of the sidepulls that Kaaren Jordan's husband makes. It is really gorgeous and wonderfully made. I am so pleased. nancy
[IceHorses] Leslie's Clinics and Publications
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Re: [IceHorses] Turkeys and OT turkey question
You were right. Bruce checked all the commerical turkeys and they all had sodium injected. He did find an organic turkey with no added sodium . This low sodium thing has been quite interesting. I bought a great American Heart Association cookbook and can fix them lots of really tasty foods, but most of what we could buy in the store is very high in sodium Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Turkeys and OT turkey question
On 11/12/07, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tahnks, Laree, we were sort of thinking that was true. And they don't > inject the free range turkeys? Not the ones I have found -- Laree in NC Doppa & Mura Simon, Sadie and Sam (the "S" gang) "Yet when all the books have been read and reread, it boils down to the horse, his human companion, and what goes on between them." - William Farley
[IceHorses] This is cute
http://www.idodogtricks.com/index_flash.html type in a command, the little puppy will do what you ask. Save KISS until the end. . . -- Laree in NC Doppa & Mura Simon, Sadie and Sam (the "S" gang) "Yet when all the books have been read and reread, it boils down to the horse, his human companion, and what goes on between them." - William Farley
Re: [IceHorses] farm kids having fun on Icys
On Nov 11, 2007 10:28 PM, Denise Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I had my kids in the barnyard riding at the same time > for the first time today. Aww, so cute--kids and horses! V
Re: [IceHorses] Turkeys and OT turkey question
Tahnks, Laree, we were sort of thinking that was true. And they don't inject the free range turkeys? Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Turkeys and OT turkey question
> Anyway, a turkey question.Bruce (bless his sweet heart) does all our > grocery shopping and plans to ask in the meat market, but I thought one of > you might know if there is salt added to turkeys. I cook for my parents and > my dad is now on a very strict low sodium diet. Yes, Nancy, many of the more common brands inject the turkays with quite a bit of salt - It will tell you on the package how much sodium is in the bird - your best bet is a free range turkey -- Laree in NC Doppa & Mura Simon, Sadie and Sam (the "S" gang) "Yet when all the books have been read and reread, it boils down to the horse, his human companion, and what goes on between them." - William Farley
Re: [IceHorses] Turkeys and OT turkey question
On 12/11/2007, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyway, a turkey question.Bruce (bless his sweet heart) does all our > grocery shopping and plans to ask in the meat market, but I thought one of > you might know if there is salt added to turkeys. I cook for my parents and > my dad is now on a very strict low sodium diet. There shouldn't be. Though the butterball brand might have extra things added. I'd love it if we had turkeys around here. The closest we've had this year, was a sighting of turkey vultures ;)... We regularly have prairie chickens or grey partridges. Kevin and I love having birds around and work hard at planting trees that attract them. Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] o/t my front pasture
--- Wanda Lauscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As I was sitting having tea this morning...this was > my view.<< Beautiful! You know, we are so lucky, those of us that are rural and have our horses in our back yard. It is a dream come true for me. Quite often, I sit on my back deck with a cup of coffee in the morning and just watch my horses eat. And I think, some people consider Nevada a wasteland, but I love it and I love the elbow room! Susan in NV Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: [IceHorses] Dagur in red
I haven't had much luck, I did just pick up a treeless barrel saddle from Hilason that is red and I love it, my husband calls it the Xmas saddle and wants me to hang bells from the horses bridle, I don't think I'll go t hat far but I do have a patriotic bridle and saddle pad that I use with the saddle. We really need some pictures of that, Jeanette! Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.30/1125 - Release Date: 11/11/2007 9:50 PM IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses "The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic." "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [IceHorses] o/t my front pasture
We got very excited a few years when wild turkeys began to come around. Now there are so many that it's boring and they're close to being a nuisance. Deer - we never get tired of. Wild turkeys are new here, so we are still excited about them. Yesterday, Cary was out walking in the back pasture with the herd, when a fox came out of the woods into the pasture, just leisurely passing through. Apparently, he didn't notice the spare set of two-legs for a while. Cary said Saga just strolled over to sniff him, and he didn't seem worried at all. He didn't think Saga was trying to shoo him away, but was just checking him out. He said he got within about 50 feet of him, before he noticed a human in the midst. The deer have been in the woods just behind the house all morning, tormenting poor Simon, the English Setter, who is in the fenced yard. Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.30/1125 - Release Date: 11/11/2007 9:50 PM
RE: [IceHorses] Dagur in red
>I am showing this again because nobody commented. LOL Lorraine, I cringe every time I see creamellos or palominos in red. I own an American Cream Draft and every red thing I have he either sweats in or gets wet in and the red bleeds out onto his coat and short of using bleach, I have to live with pink marks for at least two weeks, although it looks good, great even, I haven't had much luck, I did just pick up a treeless barrel saddle from Hilason that is red and I love it, my husband calls it the Xmas saddle and wants me to hang bells from the horses bridle, I don't think I'll go t hat far but I do have a patriotic bridle and saddle pad that I use with the saddle. I will have to get a picture this week and send it on the sight. If Denise can send pics., then so can I. Jeannette-who can't remember how to email pics.
Re: [IceHorses] O/T - Baby buffalo #2
> > > > Actually, this is Peppy's "I'm just an innocent little pony, and I > want a treat right now" look. > How could you resist that face? Bernadette
Re: [IceHorses] o/t my front pasture
On 11/12/07, Wanda Lauscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As I was sitting having tea this morning...this was my view. > > A buck came by a few minutes later, but the pic of him doesn't show his > antlers. We've had 4 does come from the pasture right into our yard for the past two days. Michael doesn't run for the camera, he runs out with a gun to scare them off because they love to eat his mimosa trees. He's kind of obsessed with trying to grow those trees. Not exactly native to Ohio and considered an invasive plant in southern states. They're hard to find in nurseries so he grows them from seeds and starts that we get from my parents tree. The rabbits and deer love to eat them. He puts up little cages to try to keep the rabbits away. We went away for a trip a year or two ago and when we came back every one of them had been trimmed down by the deer. He probably has about a dozen of them in varying stages of growth. -- Anna Southern Ohio
Re: [IceHorses] farm kids having fun on Icys
All four of them are just darling. Love the litle boy's huge smile and his boots! Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] o/t my front pasture
That's so pretty. I love your pole fence. We got very excited a few years when wild turkeys began to come around. Now there are so many that it's boring and they're close to being a nuisance. Deer - we never get tired of. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Raven - Huggin
>> High 20's? Where do you live now? Glad he is ok. He is a cutie. Scooter was breathing pretty hard last week because of the 94 degree weather Yesterday...Huginn was soaking wet in sweatjust standing around. We had a short ride really early in the morning. Tried to beat the heat (61). When I did evening chores, he came into the barn dripping wet. Poor baby. Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
Re: [IceHorses] farm kids having fun on Icys
> I think you should send the photo to a Tolt News > Magazine. Raven Hi Raven: Gosh, would love to. Andrea Barber, I think that is who has been asking me for pics, has emailed me about sending some good ones of my stallions. I think she is an editer or something with the Tolt News. Unfortunately, all my good pics are too low in resolution. Well, all my pics are of a certain resolution and the magazine needs high resolution. That is the problem. I have been so busy raising my foals among other things this summer, have not taken the time to fiddle with my camera to see how to make it better. I just keep taking the pics for my own purposes and time sneaks by. Denise __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
