Re: [IceHorses] In a funk
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just spelled it the Canadian way...bridel. Oh...I thought someone was getting married. V
Re: [IceHorses] Alex Orri photo
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:29 PM, Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They're both just beautiful. Yes, I love to watch them. V
Re: [IceHorses] Re:LittleJoe saddle pad
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:16 PM, Kaaren Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Both of my horses liked the Little Joe Pad a lot, but it was too wide for my narrow hips. Yes, Alex complained about that too. V
Re: [IceHorses] Alex Orri photo
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/7/17 Virginia Tupper [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Orri huge? In what way? Taller than Gat. Alex's legs seem to be longer on Gat. Oh, yes, Gat is 12.2 hh and I think Orri is 13.2. V
Re: [IceHorses] Alex Orri photo
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 8:26 AM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They are a good-looking pair. You are doing great at finding a relaxed plan to get them used to their new life as at-home trail horses. How old is Alex now? Doesn't it come in handy to have a fearless young horse-obsessed daughter?! Alex is now 12, turning 13 in January so I guess she's 12 1/2. She's not totally fearless, but she is brave. V
Re: [IceHorses] Clipper blades
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:07 PM, Lorraine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: which is the best place to order a replacement blade for a Oyster? It is actually for my cat. I need a #40 Lorraine Do you leave a mane and fluff on the tail like a lion? V
Re: [IceHorses] Liz Graves Clinic
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a chance to get to the Liz Graves clinic being held here in Saskatchewan on Aug 2 and 3. You lucky duck! Can't wait to hear all about it. V
Re: [IceHorses] Not an Icelandic head and neck...
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:39 PM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know the scar on Black Bart's neck looks bad, but it's SO much better than when they found him. He is SO handsome!!! V
Re: [IceHorses] Nosebands
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have since decided that more training is a better solution than more gear. How does one train a horse to keep its mouth shut without a noseband? V
Re: [IceHorses] The organizer..or, a Beautiful Mind
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:13 PM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's going to have to meet Jenny Craig soon...or maybe Isak and Landi... He's waaay too fat for a two-year-old...plus long-backed, short-legged, and butt-high. Other than that though, he's just about perfect. He has personality galore, and he's a gelding, so he's just fine. ;) He's a doll! V
Re: [IceHorses] Nosebands
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 6:30 PM, susan cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Instead of asking this question, you should ask, What am I doing that is making my horse unhappy that he is gaping his mouth? Tying a horse's mouth shut is akin to telling a person who is in pain to shut up and take it instead of asking what is wrong and fixing it. So it's usually the riders hands, not the bit itself? V
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Licking dirt
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Ashley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Virginia, Is it always the same place? If so, I would wonder what the old owner had dropped, leaked, left there that may smell interesting to Orri...I would use some temporary fencing and block it off and see if he begins somewhere else or not. Ash Yes, same place. But I think he stopped after I put out the mineral block. I'll keep watch though. V
Re: [IceHorses] Runa in royal
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 6:47 PM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got to ride too - seems like it's been too hot lately to ride a lot, so even an hour (on a workday!) felt good. Runa is a beauty! V
Re: [IceHorses] Pinto pattern?
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a question for you color experts: Vinnie has a white spot on his belly, a large roan patch that covers most of his ribs on one side, the narrow blaze, plus the two socks. Today, I went out and found that he had developed this odd blanket pattern? Well, it's obvious he's a 'straw' berry blonde! V
Re: [IceHorses] Night turnout - not
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a poor image quality photo of why we stopped turning the horses out after dark. Ouch!!! V
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Fat pony
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Renee Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a plus, I believe overnight turnout has the benefit of lower frutans in the grass than mid-day grazing -- that would be good for Gat, whom it wouldn't surprise me to learn is IR (Insulin Resistant). She has that tell-tale easy keeper thing going on and it's a very common condition in pony breeds. When the vet was here looking at Gat's eye he was surprised to learn that she was 19 and he thought she looked good for her age. Of course he didn't do any testing. Is there a 'home' test that I could do to see if she's IR? V
Re: [IceHorses] Overnight turnout (was Re: Fat pony)
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, when he HAS escaped...the only place he ran was straight for the house and yard. And even when the whole herd escaped the other daythey all trotted up to the house. I'm not sure what the fascination is about being in the yard... They're closer to you! V
Re: [IceHorses] Overnight turnout (was Re: Fat pony)
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Renee Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Susan Hodges, Robyn's sister, always used to turn her horses out overnight so they would be ready for riding / clinics during the day. I thought it was a brilliant concept. At the boarding barn the horses went out around 8 or 9 pm and came in around 7 or 8 am during the summer, then in the winter they were out in the day and in at night, so if I put mine out all night they should remember the old routine. V
[IceHorses] Video of Alex riding Orri
http://bcmoney-mobiletv.com/view/542/alex-rides-orri-at-a-walk-around-the-pasture/ Alex has been begging to ride Orri and I kept waiting because I wanted the horses to feel settled in before starting up with Orri again. So today I decided she could start with walking a few times around the pasture -- he was calm, no bolting and listened to Alex 99% of the time. I had Alex stop after they did 4 successful rounds. I figured we could start doing this every day until he's OK with everything and eventually we may be able to hit the trails with him. V -- Whether you think you can or you think you cannot, you are right. (Henry Ford) Virginia Tupper NB, Canada
Re: [IceHorses] Insulin Resistance (was Fat pony)
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 6:08 PM, Renee Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Rocky, who is Cushings and IR looks JUST like the example horse pictured. He has all of those odd fat pockets. Soley who is just IR, has the cresty neck, and she also has the excessive urination I think. Gat's fat pocket seems to be her belly. I haven't noticed any excessive urination. V
Re: [IceHorses] Video of Alex riding Orri
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a lovely little rider Alex has grown to be.Those lessons paid off, didn't they? Yes, they did, plus she had fun with her friends. She may start up again in the fall. I know I need to. V
Re: [IceHorses] Overnight turnout (was Re: Fat pony)
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My horses are out 24x7. If the grass gets too rich and/or tall (which hasn't happened since last year's drought) I close off some of the satellite pastures for a few weeks. I've come to think of pastures as rec-rooms, not so much as dining rooms. Horses need exercise and mentally, they need to graze and roam. Even the all-day moseying around mine do keeps them more fit than merely standing around in dry lots. Is there a way you can add some cross-fencing, expanding your dry lot and to provide some staggered areas of richness of grass? Adding cross-fencing isn't so expensive, and is something you can add as you get time. I know your property is big, but I can't remember how much you had fenced. We will eventually fence more land but until then the horses only have the shelter with add-on pen and the pasture. Do you have run-in sheds in the pastures so the horses can hide from the bugs? Mine seem to like their shelter because it's not as buggy as the pasture. V
Re: [IceHorses] The organizer..or, a Beautiful Mind
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:35 PM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone want to do a conformation analysis on Vinnie? He's handsome! (His belly reminds me of Gat's though). V
Re: [IceHorses] Natural Tendency
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a real inborn, natural tendency, a horse with a lotta cow: http://listen-to-your-horse.blogspot.com/2008/07/horse-has-lotta-cow.html Looks like he's having fun! Those white spots at the withers, would that be from the saddle? V
Re: [IceHorses] Fat pony
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She is so beautiful. I think so too! :D V
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Fat pony
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 6:01 PM, djakni1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hay. :o) If you have pasture, you may as well let them eat it. Hay is expensive. I was feeding hay because that is what they were eating at the boarding barn and I wanted to introduce them to the pasture slowly. I've built up to 2 - 3 hours of pasture. I'm just wondering if I kept them on pasture over night if having unlimited access for such a long time would relax them and they would realize it's there and always will be so they could slow down on the desperate eating. V
Re: [IceHorses] Fat pony
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:11 PM, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should I cut back on hay or pasture? What kind of hay are you feeding? I would probably cut back on both hay and pasture time. It looks grassy, more yellow than green, and I think it's left over from last year. Somewhere recently I just read that feeding less feed than normal, spread out more times per day, is equal to feeding two bigger quantity meals. Does that make sense? I've been breaking down and spreading out the feeding too, but looking at my horses they look like I'm feeding double the amount--yet they both act like starving guts! V
Re: [IceHorses] Fat pony
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 9:08 PM, Renee Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about grazing muzzle(s) for Gat and / or Orri to be worn for part of their turn-out time? I bought one for Gat, it's one of those Best Friends deluxe ones but I've held back using it because I thought a couple hours of grazing didn't seem like a lot to me, especially now that the pasture looks so dry from the hot weather we've been having. V
Re: [IceHorses] Fat pony
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:45 PM, susan cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Use a tape measure to check their weight every week or so. Good idea, thanks! V
Re: [IceHorses] Fat pony
This is a little video I took of Alex today--she's using a Best Friends bareback pad. http://bcmoney-mobiletv.com/view/537/bareback-saddle-pad/ V
Re: [IceHorses] OT: Bart's turnout
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 9:15 PM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bart got turn-out time tonight in a very small grassy area we made with corral panels at the front of the barn. We used the Parelli-recommended (and common sense/low pressure) method of taking chairs into the area, and just sitting with him - no pressure, all of us just chillin'. Seems at ease and happy enough! V
Re: [IceHorses] Licking dirt
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They say V that a horse can stand and lick a mineral block all day every day and not get the minerals he needs, so you have to have loose minerals. My horses devoured 1/2 of the block in one day! I guess they're needing some minerals. Has anyone ever fed this to their horse: http://www.theholistichorse.com/Calcuilite.html V
Re: [IceHorses] Re: SE Season - Duralactin, flax, eucalyptus [IH#8503)
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Barbara Sollner-Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: please tell us more about how the Duralactin and the flax -- how much, from which company, and any past experience with them! and what is your experience with eucalyptus oil; is it better than citronella?? thanks! This product has eucalyptus oil: http://www.theholistichorse.com/SweetItch.html V
[IceHorses] Shelters
I don't have a shelter in the pasture and while looking I came across this -- would this be safe? http://www.portablegaragedepot.com/index.cfm?sku=51451catid=101 Virginia Tupper NB, Canada
Re: [IceHorses] biting oh man!
On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vicki is out of the hospital and had to have emergency reconstructive surgery because he bit the front of her face almost off! OMG! How awful! Please pass along my best wishes. V
[IceHorses] Feeding
I've read that because horses are grazing animals it is best to feed small amounts of food often--that the digestive system is supposed to always have food in it. So, I'm trying to follow that the best l can. First thing in the morning my two get two flakes of hay to share; at noon one flake to share; at suppertime they go in the pasture for 2 to 3 hours; then when they come in I give them their vitamin mix and another flake of hay to share. Then they go all night without food, except for whatever roots they can scrounge in the pen. Basically it's the same amount of food that they were getting at the boarding barn, 2 flakes of hay per day each and whatever they could get in the dirt pasture. Orri looks the same to me but Gat seems to be getting a bigger belly. I'm wondering if I should cut down the hay and put them to pasture overnight. How does one cut down the amount of food yet keep food in the digestive system all the time? Oh--I also put up a mineral/salt lick and they've gobbled half of it in one day--Gat licks it like she's entranced! I tried to order some ABC Icelandic Free Choice but was told that they don't ship to Canada so I'll have to check out the local feed stores to see what I can find. V Virginia Tupper NB, Canada
Re: [IceHorses] An Emergency in the desert and Whisper's response
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 11:54 PM, Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know you joke about how you think Nancy is the only one reading and absorbing your posts, but rest assured that I'm up here in Canada reading every word. Me too--only I'm on the other side of Canada. V
Re: [IceHorses] Treeless/mounting from the ground
On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 1:33 AM, Lorraine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always thought it was embarrasing to need a step to mount a 12.2 HH horse. I use a step too--I'm too stiff and don't want to hurt Gat (12.2 hh) with my flailings. V
Re: [IceHorses] OT -- Spirit Orb
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i just need to make them smile again. that is a simple assignment for me! janice I think you are a good and wonderful person. V
Re: [IceHorses] wind fencing
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bamboo can make a fence that looks like an elephant enclosure in about a year. I remember reading somewhere that bamboo can take over and it's hard to get rid of. Do you have any photos of your bamboo? V
Re: [IceHorses] 33 Truths about Horses
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anyway. just thought you all needed to know about how my rich friend acts. Janice -- She sounds like an interesting person. V
[IceHorses] Licking dirt
Orri has a spot in the corner of the pen where he'll stand and lick the dirt. Both horses are now getting a vit/min mix with ACV, Kelp and Flax, but he's obviously still looking for something. I bought an equine salt/mineral block that may help and I think I'll check out thos ABC products. V Virginia Tupper NB, Canada
Re: [IceHorses] OT -- Spirit Orb
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 12:57 PM, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been hard on myself all week tho. I did not return her call and then when I did, she had passed away. Oh my goodness--I think I'd be driving myself crazy if that had happened to me! But, I also think your daughter is right. V
Re: [IceHorses] wind fencing
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they say pandas eat only bamboo, just tons and tons a day. I guess Pandas are meant to keep the bamboo in check. :D V
Re: [IceHorses] Licking dirt
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They say V that a horse can stand and lick a mineral block all day every day and not get the minerals he needs, so you have to have loose minerals. That's good to know, thanks! V
Re: [IceHorses] wind fencing
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . yeah! and they say every so many years all the bamboo dies off at once and when it does the chinese people have to scrounge for miles and miles for bamboo to take to the pandas and keep them alive til the bamboo comes back! I didn't know that! chicken a day disappear. then this morning, very early, I heard it, the dang owl that came last year is back so now will lock all my chickens up til he leaves. Would an owl fly away with a chicken?! They must be strong. V
Re: [IceHorses] High Heads / Necks
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about these images: Do you have any images of how the head/neck should be in a tolt? V
[IceHorses] OT -- Spirit Orb
My hubby and I went to our previous house this morning to discuss renovations with a carpenter and a decorator (we need to fix it up before putting it on the market), and when I was alone with the decorater she told me that she saw an Orb in one of the photos she had taken in our kitchen and she sensed that the Orb was happy and taking care of me. Anyone have any experience with Orbs? V
Re: [IceHorses] OT -- Spirit Orb
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Skye and Sally ~Fire Island [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. We have them here on our land. Have some pics of some. There is a place towards Volcano where there are a lot of Orbs and they talk with the owners there. YOu can visit their farm and walk through the gardens at night looking for the Orbs.Little beings of light. Wow! Sounds awesome! V
Re: [IceHorses] OT -- Spirit Orb
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nobut now I want one. :) Maybe you do have them but don't know about it. V
Re: [IceHorses] What is it with grain?!
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it really taste that good? I don't know if they need the supplement, but it really tastes that good. Even with the vinegar dressing?! It's like a salad I suppose. They smack their lips after eating, but they don't get a drink to water down the flavour so they must like it. V
Re: [IceHorses] Re: What is it with grain?!
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Kaaren Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I still (mostly my horses) like the ABC free choice Icelandic Mineral Mix, with Redmond salts, Himalaylan salts ABC MOP all out free choice. Also always have the liquid Pro-Bi on hand for any emergencies that may arise, but mostly use it before after worming to help re-balance the intestinal flora. Is there a link where I can purchase these online? I've never seen them in any tack store in my area (NB, Canada). V
Re: [IceHorses] What is it with grain?!
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like gro strong by alliance. my vet suggested it and it seems a great product . janice Are these available online? V
Re: [IceHorses] Cutie Scooter in braids
On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Lorraine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scooter looks so cute and cool. Here is our new rig. Scooter looks divine! Love your new rig! V
Re: [IceHorses] Our pasture, new barn, and the girls
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 8:20 PM, Jacki Edens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am so excited I can hardly contain myself!. I am excited for you! Love the photos! Everything is so beautiful! Horses, too! V
Re: [IceHorses] Sightseeing on the trail
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Teev, just chillin' and checking out the sights... Do you ride at a certain time of day to avoid flies? My bug spray doesn't keep them off. V
Re: [IceHorses] When bad conformation is good...
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I should try to get this same picture without tack, Very handsome guy! V
Re: [IceHorses] BIG flies
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 12:06 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try bug check, a natural product from The Natural Vet. I am very pleased with this product. Thanks! V
Re: [IceHorses] BIG flies
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 12:06 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try bug check, a natural product from The Natural Vet. I am very pleased with this product. I looked at the ingredients and saw Diatomaceous Earth -- wouldn't that be abbrasive to the gut? V
Re: [IceHorses] BIG flies
Anyone using LarvaeStop or similar products? See article: http://www.thehorse.com/ViewArticle.aspx?ID=1873 V
Re: [IceHorses] chewing thing
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well what would you suggest. she's already carrying an aluminum baseball bat into the paddock with her. and using it. She handed me a fly swatter, which worked pretty good actually. He needs to be gelded for one, and soon, and i think she is working on that. Janice -- Is he too young for Parelli games? V
Re: [IceHorses] Nipped me!
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 9:19 PM, Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our horses have done that from time to time...I believe it's just mutual grooming. You were right to let Orri know it wasn't the right thing to do... My reaction was pretty much on instinct. I'm just glad that he approached me with no fear after. V
Re: [IceHorses] Nipped me!
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 8:41 AM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That does NOT sound like what Orri was doing though - did you sense any frustration or tension in what he was doing? Just watch him. If he was contrite and loving afterwards, he probably won't try it again. He probably just misjudged where the line is, and inadvertently crossed it, probably in a playing/grooming sense. And...be sure to watch his body language. Many times you can simply lift a finger to signal enough before the horse gets to that point. Orri has always been cagey about me handling his feet but he's so much better than he ever was, that's why I was so surprised at the nip. But I really don't think he meant to hurt me because I'm sure he could've if he really wanted to. BTW, I let my horses touch me. Orri always comes up to me for rubs, and he sniffs me all over like he's a dog while Gat always acts like there's a wall between us, or she's wishing there was. V
Re: [IceHorses] Nipped me!
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . Think about the herd behavior. Brunka and Bjola can be peacefully eating out of the same hay pile, when Brunka happens to grab THE bite that Bjola was aiming for - then there's a flurry of butt-shoving and squealingand a minute later, they may again be quietly sharing the same pile of hay. Yes, makes sense. V
[IceHorses] BIG flies
We've been having muggy weather, lots of rain and it seems that the black flies are less, but there's lots of BIG flies buzzing around. They sound like bees. I don't know if they're horse flies or deer flies--maybe both. They are annoying my horses and the bug spray doesn't seem to keep these flies off. Is there a supplement my horses could eat that would make them less tasty? Garlic? V
Re: [IceHorses] BIG flies
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 7:00 PM, Robyn Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You start with about a teaspoon mixed with water on a bit of grain and then gradually add more until to get up to between 1/4 and 1/2 cup. We found the horses actually preferred the vinegar to plain grain - like salad dressing :)) Thanks, I'll try that! V
Re: [IceHorses] Trailer Loading
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 11:51 PM, Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin moved the trailer into the riding arena tonight. I had just popped the door open and Solon was standing at the ready. To say he likes trailer loading is an understatement. So smart! V
[IceHorses] Nipped me!
I was cleaning Orri's feet this morning and while trying to dig out some mud, he started snuffling my back, then he gave me a little nip. Since he's never done that before and it suprised me I popped up and gave him tap on the nose, then shook my finger at him and sternly said 'don't you do that again'he backed up like I was gonna beat him up or something. Then I ignored him and shovelled out some poop, when I was done and just standing still he came over to me and I loved on him like nothing had happened. Thinking about it since it happened I've been wondering why he would do that -- could he have been trying to groom me, or would it be some other reason? It didn't hurt, or pinch, it was like a soft grab. V Virginia Tupper NB, Canada
Re: [IceHorses] My Gusti
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had to put my Gusti to sleep yesterday. I'm sorry Wanda. This makes me cry. V
Re: [IceHorses] OT roger
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 11:00 PM, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: here is a pic of roger staring at me from over the top of my computer screen. he wonders why I am not in bed. LOL ! He's cute. V
Re: [IceHorses] Welsh Icelandic Cross
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Possible Welsh / Icelandic cross for sale: http://iceryder.blogspot.com/2008/06/welsh-icelandic-horse-cross.html Pretty! V
Re: [IceHorses] Gat surprised me
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 10:58 PM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then of course Orri pushed his way ahead of her to be the first haltered, but for Gat to come to be haltered, that was a first! I think they are home now. :) Congratulations to all of you. Thanks! V
Re: [IceHorses] Horse Buying Disappointment
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you consider a basic education for any horse? Yes, I'd like to know that too. V
Re: [IceHorses] Horse Buying Disappointment
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just making mental notes about what I'd write, but before I do that, would you mind making a list for us, Virginia? It just struck me that you're probably one of the most qualified to make a list that we could discuss. Afterall, you're one of the newer horse owners on the list, and I think you probably have some ideas of what you'd like to see. I don't really have a list, all I'm interested in is a horse who's happy to be with me, enjoys going for trail rides, and doesn't mind that I'm just stumbling along. Not very technical am I?! Since you seem like an owner who's in this for the long-haul, but probably have some fresh bruises from your first horse-buying experiences - hopefully only mental, and none physical! Any bruises are self-inflicted, haha! This has been a learning experience for sure, and one that I'm enjoying although I'm probably too hard on myself, hence the bruises. It sounds like Gat is a great horse for Alex, but I think you may have had to make a few adjustments to get to that point? The adjustments were understanding what the gaits were about, what was possible and what wasn't. If you could write a specification for what you'd like in a horse at this point in your horsemanship journey, what would you put on the list, and in what order? Would you have one list for yourself, and another for the Alex of two years ago? Or would the basics be pretty similar up to a point? Gat was perfect for Alex to learn confidence, etc but she wasn't the right horse for Alex at the schooling barn geared towards hunter/jumper so I think if Alex wants to continue jumping she'll probably take lessons on the school horses, but for here at home, trail riding and having a partner, Gat is a wonderful horse. BTW, Gat just turned 19 yesterday! V
[IceHorses] Gat surprised me
Whenever I tried to get Gat in the field at the boarding barn she would always walk away and be very difficult to bring in, here at home she allows me to walk up and halter her. Yesterday the horses were in the field and I just sat in the lawn chair to watch them before going in to get them. Gat looked up and saw me so, leading Orri she would walk a few post lengths up towards me, stop and graze, walk a few more post lengths, stop and graze, and worked her way towards where I was. When they were close I got up and went in the gate, turned to grab the halters on the post, turned back and there was Gat waiting to be haltered! Surprised me! Then of course Orri pushed his way ahead of her to be the first haltered, but for Gat to come to be haltered, that was a first! Virginia Tupper NB, Canada
[IceHorses] zeolite
Looking online for a product to put on the shelter floor urine spots, I came across zeolite products for ammonia (Sweet PDZ), etc., then I also came across liquid zeolite products to take internally for removing toxins in humans and animalsis this the same thing? Virginia Tupper NB, Canada
Re: [IceHorses] Contrasting behavior
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 9:15 PM, Robyn Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Virginia, thumping the ground with a huge stick and yelling aggressively, well Orri cantered on over like he wanted to join in. Is he more brave and curious when he is free and not held by a lead? He may feel much safer when he has some control over the situation and is more stress when he feels restrained/ contained. Yes, that makes sense...although he can also be very nosy while on a lead. I'll have to watch that closely. V
Re: [IceHorses] Contrasting behavior
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:08 PM, Robyn Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Virginia, I wish I lived closer to all of you. Too bad you don't live closer to Olga Comeau in Hampton, N.S. - she is a TTEAM practitioner and excellent Centered Riding teacher and offers a variety of workshops at her place. I live about 6 hours away =/- and I do hope to get there eventually. V
Re: [IceHorses] Contrasting behavior
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 9:29 PM, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At what times is he not brave? Can you isolate any common circumstances? I will have to watch for common circumstances. The other day when Alex brought the horses over to hose, Orri didn't see my husband sitting under the canopy and when he say him he jumped, literally, a foot or two sideways. Gat just looked. I think, like Robyn said, Orri seems less brave on lead--maybe like he's expecting the worst to happen. V
Re: [IceHorses] Contrasting behavior
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 10:48 PM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have no idea what Orri's idiocynrasies might be, but if you can pick up some sort of pattern, you can probably figure out how to use what he likes and is confident with to make him more confident in the things he's weaker in. OK--I'll see if I can figure out a pattern. V
Re: [IceHorses] Happy Birthday Anna!!!
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 8:33 PM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems to me Anna will be turning 50 tomorrow! Happy Birthday to Anna! Happy birthday, Anna. :) Yes, Happy Birthday!!! V
Re: [IceHorses] Contrasting behavior
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 9:20 AM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People usually seem to think they have better control of their horses when they lead them on a short line, but it's really the opposite. I have no idea if this pertains to you, Virginia, but it's a good point to review all along. And, it's always good to practice this until it's second nature, so we won't grab in a crisis. I have been using a 'float' since I started reading and practicing Parelli. Orri and Gat and both very good with a float. I'm not so sure Alex was using a 'float' when Orri spooked at my husband. V
Re: [IceHorses] Torsion saddles for sale
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like my Torsions pretty well - not quite as well as the Sensations Looks nice. I want to buy another Sensation myself--a Hybrid because Orri has more wither than Gat. I never use my Hrmirir saddle so I'm thinking of selling that so I can buy a Hybrid. V
Re: [IceHorses] Belly Lifts
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know those little hand held *claw* garden tools? Kinda look like 3 hooks at the end of a short handle? I found some in the toy dept. at Wally's and they're metal but rounded and not sharp like the adult tool would be. I bought 2 ($1.99 ea.) and tied them together with a piece of thin mtn. rope (baling twine would do. As soon as they touch her belly, she lifts. No more finding the place and digging with the (lack of) fingernails umpteen times till a feeble lift comes. We have to do 10 a day, but can often do 10, 2x a day. I can finally commit to doing belly-lifts with Rose on a long term basis. Wow, great idea! I can try this for Gat. V
[IceHorses] Contrasting behavior
Well, the horses have been home about a month now. Alex has been riding Gat around the property and she's been asking to ride Orri but I've been saying no as I think he needs more time to get settled plus I want to do more work on the ground with him. Orri is a funny characterme, being a novice, well, I sometimes can't figure him out. He's very forward coming to say hello, seems to love affection and attention, but at the same time it seems like he 'freezes' when he's not sure, and it's like he's ready to blow, I can feel his tension. For example, Alex and I hosed the horses down yesterday...Orri was unsure and stood there frozen with one eye pinned to me while I reassured him, but I could sense he could flip out so I cut the hosing short to stop the pressure on him. I get confused at this point -- is it good to cut out the pressure, or should I keep the pressure on until he's over it? Personally I don't like to keep on with the pressure but maybe I'm thinking wrong. When I first had him and was taking lessons, I think the bolting came from him not being able to handle the pressure...and even though Orri freezes and is very spooky compared to Gat, he is also very brave and nosy. Yesterday when my husband and I went on a walk we came across another porupine near the pasture so hubby started pounding the ground chasing off the porcupine, hollaring and acting wild -- well, Orri comes cantering over from across the pasture to check out the action, no fear. So why the contrast in behavior? I've noticed this about him as long as I've had him and he doesn't seem to change (he's 7). I could use some direction on how to train him. V Virginia Tupper NB, Canada
Re: [IceHorses] Contrasting behavior
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What type of work have you done with him so far? I haven't been doing anything but daily handling, but when I was working with him I was doing Parelli games. Are you capitalizing on his positive points? I encourage him and praise him when he's being positive; when he's frozen I try to step back with whatever I'm doing and give him space to get on a level again. What I'm curious about is his contrasting behavior which has seemed to be a constant no matter where he's been living. Would this mean that it's his typical behavior and he'll be that way for the rest of his life? V
Re: [IceHorses] Contrasting behavior
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 6:34 PM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One more thought along those lines: how about leading him out for a walk while Alex takes a quiet leisurely ride on Gat? Yes, that's good. I think I'll first start with Gat and Orri walking on leads with me and Alex, then with Alex riding Gat and me leading Orri, then work it up to Alex riding Orri with me leading him, then Alex riding Orri and me on Gat. Play it all by ear and see how it goes. V
Re: [IceHorses] Contrasting behavior
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 8:13 PM, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If there were practice sessions, starting with the smallest piece of the behavior (i.e. maybe trickling some water on his feet and if he stands still, click and treat), and slowly working up to full showers, he may enjoy them at some point. Oh, that sounds good. I have to re-read my clicker books. When is he brave? what circumstances? He's brave with people, wants to meet everyone, get patted and attention; is brave about checking things out--I can tell when he's nervous but he'll still nose around; then like I said about the other day when my husband started acting like a wildman chasing the porcupine thumping the ground with a huge stick and yelling aggressively, well Orri cantered on over like he wanted to join in. V
Re: [IceHorses] Contrasting behavior
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 8:45 PM, Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I couldn't imagine him being trained by someone that was harsh or stern...it would have ruined him. At the boarding barn the owner offered to train Orri for me but his method is to 'ride through it' and one time when riding Orri he made Orri rear until he got him to back up with his cues--he didn't want Orri backing up with my cues. I wish I lived closer to all of you. V
Re: [IceHorses] Brunka
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/6/22 Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Maybe I'll look like her when I grow up. I heard a rule the other day that if you haven't grown up by the time you are 50you don't have to. BWAhahahahahahaha! Love it! V
[IceHorses] Moose
Wow! There was a young moose in my backyard this morning...I was too surprised to grab my camera. It walked around nibbling on trees, walked like on eggs, looking around like it wasn't sure where to go, occasionally looking over at the horses in their shelter. I wonder where its mom was; I wonder why my yard looked interesting enough to come out of the woods. Virginia Tupper NB, Canada
[IceHorses] Moose
Wow! There was a young moose in my backyard this morning...I was too surprised to grab my camera. It walked around nibbling on trees, walked like on eggs, looking around like it wasn't sure where to go, occasionally looking over at the horses in their shelter. I wonder where its mom was; I wonder why my yard looked interesting enough to come out of the woods. Virginia Tupper NB, Canada
Re: [IceHorses] mane direction
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 9:48 AM, Robyn Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Wanda, I remember working with a couple of horses that had just one small piece of mane that fell opposite to the rest of the mane - I did really specific TTouch sessions on those parts of the neck and the next morning the mane had moved to the other side without any grooming. It was interesting. Yes, that is interesting. Gat never had any mane on the opposite side then one chunk started to flip. Which TTouch sessions could I try? And Orri always had a split -- would that indicate he needs TTouch there too, or would it just be natural? V
Re: [IceHorses] Moose
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 10:43 AM, Laree Shulman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 8:20 AM, Virginia Tupper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow! V- No Kidding, WOW! How did the horses react? I couldn't tell from where I was and I thought I'd scare the moose if I went outside. V
Re: [IceHorses] mane direction
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Robyn Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It just indicates some stiffness or holding pattern, we all have them. You could do some Bear TTouch - slow, precise touches which go in quite deep but not because there is pressure (do you have Linda's new book?). Yes I do have it--I will look up those touches. If it changes sides part way down the neck it would be interesting for you to see if there is a curve in his spine in that place. It changes sides 3/4 way down. If there's a curve would TTouches help that? V
Re: [IceHorses] Moose
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that is so beyond way cool. He musta came to eat grass, or maybe a predator chased him and mom and he got separated? It is good for him to be there. Now if you run into one on the trail it won't freakl the horses out! To me he looked bigger than a baby but I could tell he was young--maybe he was an age to leave mom, I don't know. He kept looking in the direction of the horse shelter so they were probably looking at him too. V
Re: [IceHorses] Moose
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do they shoot Moose in your area? Do they even eat Moose? I hear they are dangerous so if Mom was live and well you would have been in danger? Sylvia Yes, there is a moose hunting season--I think it's in the fall. And yes you can eat moose. The most danger I've ever heard is when cars hit the moose on the highway. V
Re: [IceHorses] mane direction
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:22 PM, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just noticed for the first time today... every horse I have has mane that falls to their left. But nasi. His mane falls to his right. Does that mean he is left handed??!? Janice I heard it has something to do with how the foal is curled in the womb but I foget the specs. Gat's mane falls on her right and Orri's is mostly on left but halfway down falls on the right -- ambidextrious (sp)? V
Re: [IceHorses] OT - My husband
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Kristen Mikula [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My husband, Troy, died this weekend in a kayaking accident. My family is here with me, but it still doesn't seem real. Here is my favorite picture of Troy and Deacon together. Even though I took over riding Deacon, he still liked Troy the best. http://www.jacobsfuneralhomes.com/obits/obituaries.php/obitID/189396 I'm so sorry, you have my most heartfelt condolences. And that is a beautiful photo. *hug* V
Re: [IceHorses] Interesting change of behavior
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He was probably just feeling good, happy to have his pasture, and not ready to give up the grass to come in. I've been giving the horses 2 to 3 hours of late afternoon grazing time daily--I don't know, maybe it's not enough? V
