Re: [IceHorses] Re: What Gait / Nanna
First video: http://iceryder.net/videogaitnanna1.html Here's the second video: http://iceryder.net/videogaitnanna2. In the first it appears to be almost a trot so I'd say a fox trot, amazing for Nanna! The second appears to be more towards an even beat gait. Thanks! Cheryl
Re: [IceHorses] Introduction to the Cherokee Bridle
Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a little video of Cookie's introduction to the Cherokee bridle: Reading email at my son's babysitting the grandkids. There big screen tv is the computer monitor. My grandson watched intently then asked--- Why is the horse barking? ROFLMAO!! Cheryl www.sandcreekicelandics.com
Re: [IceHorses] the holiday- baby ducks
Okay I have a Janice story I think it can compare, barely maybe, but compare. Oh and I'm in town babysitting 4 grandkids, that's my excuse for not getting the house cleaned for Thanksgiving Janice what is yours? Are you done?? :o) We're all sitting at the table having thanksgiving dinner, company and all. Big picture window beside the beautiful Thanks Giving feast. Outside under the picture window is a picnic table. Our Newfoundland Bruneau jumps up on the picnic table with a big old, stiff, dead squirrel in his mouth! just feet away from our lovely meal Fore lorn eyes asking to join the feast, even brought his own meal! :o) Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics www.sandcreekicelandics.com
RE: [IceHorses] Alex the African Gray: O/T
Cherie Mascis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had to fire a parrot from our Marine World show because it would say shit under it's breath while it was doing tricks, and it would be picked up by the microphone! Cherie I have a BG that does a great cafe scene from When Harry Met Sally. YIKES!! Not good when we had teenagers in the house! Luckily it's rare that she does it anymore. But it did take a couple of years before she dropped it from her repetiore after coming to live with us! Cheryl www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Icelandic Sheepdogs - OT
I know that back in the 70's they were. We had some farmers and some musicians from Iceland come and stay at our farm over a period of a few years and they were shocked that we would even let our farm dog into the porch. When we realized how uncomfortable they were around dogs...old Smokie had to stay outside for the remainder of their visits. Maybe they were uncomfortable with dogs in general. Understandable since dogs were banned from the cities and most people were likely not familiar with dogs. Kind of little I have a bit of a cat phobia my mother passed to me after my brother and I got scabies from a kitten from a feral litter. To this day I'm not comfortable with handling unfamiliar cats, and it's taken effort to overcome my fear of cats and disease so I can handle my cats, and I was too young to recall having scabies. Efforts began in the late fifties to save the Icelandic Sheepdog from extinction. An English nobleman searched Iceland high and low for dogs to enter a breeding program to save the breed. It was after Sir Mark Watson's effort to save the breed in the late 1950s that Iceland decided to also make an effort to save their dog. I find it difficult to believe they were wandering feral and considered pests in the 70s. Dogs in general--- okay, the ISD in particular--- I don't think so. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandic Sheepdogs www.sandcreekicelandics.com
Re: [IceHorses] The Positive
Ed also had an article in the USIHC Quarterly several years ago. Cheryl
[IceHorses] Re: Seizures
Hi Lorraine, I have a dog here that started having seizures about 2 years ago. He was having them about once a month. He has lived here for 10 months. The vet didn't want to put him on anti seizure meds unless they started coming more frequently than once a month. Apparently once you start the anti seizure meds you cannot stop. His seizures since coming here have slowly grown more infrequent. It has been a long while since he has had one, touch wood! We live very green lives here, related or coincidence? I also wonder if maybe he was vaccinated for rabies too frequently, as he often crossed the US/Canadian Border. Please, please consider donating to the rabies challenge study... http://rabieschallengefund.com/index.html you can use PayPal. I also wonder if he may have got some xylitol. He had lived in a newly built home, off gassing? Who knows what has made the difference, but it has been 5 months since his last seizure. Go Tryggur! Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandic Sheepdogs Website: www.sandcreekicelandics.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [IceHorses] MFT for sale in AZ,attention Judy
Wow Lorraine, what a beautiful photo! Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho
Re: [IceHorses] representing the breed
...the only way for change to happen to get involved and get on the inside...otherwise your just tapping on the aqauarium glass and irritating the fishes What a GREAT analogy! Thanks for the laugh! Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho
Re: [IceHorses] representing the breed
well what about the weanlings for 15,000 cheryl?? Janice What weanling for 15K? No doubt you can buy a weaning in about any breed for $15K if you look hard enough. But I can't say I've ever come across an Icelandic for that price, but no doubt there has been one. Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho
Re: [IceHorses] representing the breed
What a GREAT analogy! Thanks for the laugh! yeah, all the little cold reptilian fishes swimming in their encapsulated globes in tight little mindless schools, just swimming, Janice, no need to get yourself all worked up. I just thought is was a very funny analogy in general, USIHC or what ever involved vs. uninvolved group. I still do! I've never heard it before and got a good laugh during a short reprieve from the nightmare of working on getting my tax info together for my upcoming tax appointment! Yuck! Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho
Re: [IceHorses] picture I almost deleted
Here is my almost deleted photo Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandic Sheepdogs Website: www.sandcreekicelandics.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]attachment: Dsc08380_Raud__Hrim_Blurred_9-26-03.jpg
[IceHorses] Breaking News - PET FOOD RECALL
Melamine has been found in effected dogs. ABC News is apparently now saying the numbers thought to be 1000 or more are now believed to possibly be 10 times that. Clinics are claiming patients are also affected by the DRY FOODS. A shipment of the suspect wheat gluten was received by one US maker of dry dog food, it isn't known whether it was used in the final product. No recall has been issued yet. Melamine is used to make plastic kitchen utensils and as a fertilizer in Asia. Associated links. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087sid=awNIdXyIlDc4refer=home http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/03/fda_plastics_ch.html http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/fda-finds-melamine-pet-food/story.aspx?guid=%7B99479E16-BE39-4314-99C3-34D1474C9E3F%7D Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho
Re: [IceHorses] Healthy Dog Food ISDs
Cheryl, Cilia is awesome. She really is my special girl! I mean I love all my dogs but she is special. I'm on a mission to find the April Dog World here in the boonies. Good Luck! I've only been able to get my hands on one copy! The nearest Petsmart still has the March issue on the shelves so I'm still hoping to be able to get another April issue! Have no idea about scooter dogs!What's that about? Our girls do pull a sled. It is pulling a scooter instead of a sled! You want an all terrain type scooter though, typically you have to order one as they're not available in most sporting/bike shops. Were we younger, would attempt to add an Icelandic Sheepdog to our menagerie. Our Icelandic horses ignore the dogs' antics, but our mule is constantly vigilant and ready to strike and maim/kill..good news is that he keeps the coyotes and bears away, bad new is I don't think I can learn to pony him with the dogs! Our dogs learned not to cut through the donkey's paddock! But eventually the donkey learned to tolerate our dogs. The Icelandic Sheepdogs are a special breed, just like the horses! Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho
Re: [IceHorses] Pet Food Recall
Apparently a news announcement indicates that rat poison has been found in the pet foods recalled for killing animals. Jeez I hope someone didn't do it on purpose. http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/03/23/pet.food.recall.ap/index.html I think it is just indifference of pet food manufacturers willing to use unsuitable for consumption crap in pet food. Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho
Re: [IceHorses] Crazy Morning
Laree I hope you WILL take him to small claims court! It may be the only way to convince him to geld the horse, to see to it that it does not happen to someone else's beloved mare. Did you miss work? Will you miss more work to move your mare, take her to the vet, etc. Extra board costs to move her? Actual costs to move her? Include any and all related expenses! Since you can't kick him where it counts, kick in the only other spot it may mean anything to him, his wallet! Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Clicker Training -- Eitill IS a great horse...but...
You had mentioned that one problem you had with clicker training was that Trausti backed up for hours? after being clicker trained to back up. After we taught Dari to turn on the forehand (definitely not with clicker training) he started to turn on the forehand every time we came to a halt, of course thinking he would please me. I've had the same experience with teaching a side pass, once they get it... for a couple of minutes they think that every time I put my leg on them they should side pass. I don't go on side passing/backing, or whatever, for hours because I have a mind set that the horse is ruined by some distant training method I'm doing it right, and by god he'll do it my way. I just briefly redirect the horses energy and go back to sidepass, multiple times, eventually the horse realizes that every time I put my leg on doesn't suddenly mean side pass. It doesn't take letting/making them sidepass for hours because they think that's what you want if you want to help them understand the difference. IMO this is a pretty common confusion previously C/T or not. I think you betray your horses' trust by allowing/making them go on for hours. If what you're doing doesn't get the results you're looking for you don't keep at it for hours, isn't that a pretty basic covenant of considering the horse in training? I'm sorry that Trausti and Eitill had to endure hours of backing/sidepassing due to miscommunication and a rider too stubborn to accept what they were using wasn't working and try something else, return to successful point, and go forward with a new plan. Basic horsemanship stuff. IMO, making a horse back for hours (if a horse backed for hours to his mind you WERE asking for a back) due to miscommunication, and a mind set that I'm asking correctly and by god this horse will comply with my request, borders on abuse, maybe that is too light, it is abuse. Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Clicker Training -- Eitill IS a great horse...but...
Cheryl, how is Raudstjarni From ToltallyIce doing? Did you train him yourself? You're a hoot Karen! Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho
Re: [IceHorses] Breaking it down
Cheryl, wouldn't you like to share how you trained your homegrown Raudstjarni? As you know, Raudstjarni was not born at our farm, nor was he raised at our farm. I bought him as a unhandled, not even halter broke 5 year old stallion. I named him from my farm as I jumped through all the hoops and paid stud fees, etc. to get him registered. I didn't want him to carry around a stigma from the farm he was from. Something I will NEVER do again, if they aren't born here they will not get my farm name. Live and learn. What was that Maya Angelou quote again?? :o) Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Saga California
My vet owns very likely the last living horse to come over on the Saga California plane. I have an appointment tomorrow, I'll try to remember to ask about her. Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho
Re: [IceHorses] Big Buggy Wreck Story
Rachel, I am so glad you will be okay! Sounds very scary. I hope you find your wonderful Icelandic Horses soon! Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho
Re: [IceHorses] Update on Gunnar
I recall someone recently mentioned on another list, something about ulcer meds. I will see if I can find it. Aloe Vera Juice, $15 a gallon at Wal-Mart, is good for treating ulcers in horses. Old TI did a study, as I recall, before he passed away and found it as effective as the expensive ulcer meds. Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho
Re: [IceHorses] Find Function
I use Mozilla, I can just click any where on a web page and start typing what word I'm looking for and it will find it. Using control-G will find the next time it is present on the webpage, etc. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandic Sheepdogs Website: www.sandcreekicelandics.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [IceHorses] Prey/Predator
It works if you do it right. Luring an animal into place with food is bribing. Rewarding it after the fact is not. You have to learn how to do it right. If you just grab a clicker and go, you may have mugging problems. You must teach a horse how and where to receive the reward. Exactly! I remember many years ago clicker training young (at the time) Lilja. I was fairly new to clicker training. She started wrapping her head around me looking for the treat while I retrieved it from the treat bag. So I used to the clicker to teach her to angle her head slightly away from me. It was quite comical seeing her with her head turned slightly away from me but straining her eyeballs to see me so she could see if I noticed she had her head turned away! I think feeding horses treats indiscriminately, especially if they're mugging you and they will be, leads to mugging behavior. Feeding treats while properly using clicker training decreases mugging behavior IME. Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho
Re: [IceHorses] O/T Mandy
They may spend part of the year at Barbara's in California but initially will be living in Wyoming Wow! That is right next door! :o) What part of Wyoming? Will she be doing any training? Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho
Re: [IceHorses] Swirls ~ Personality Tendencies
That is the 'wheat ear' on the underside of the neck that Linda talks about. 3. Straumfjadrir - Stream feathers (long ones I would guess is what this means in translation) on the breast and they were considered to be more secure in water than other horses. Thank Robyn, interesting. Are the above swirls the same? Atli has the wheat ear on the chest/neck. He is my very special boy, a very special horse. And he LOVES the water! If you offer him to go in water, be aware, because he is going in! Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho
Re: [IceHorses] Taking the Icelandics on a trip
Lorraine, thanks for the new photo for my Icelandics Around the World webpage. www.toltallyice.com/IcelandicHorsePhotos.html Please take some photos of your horses in the Sedona area for my webpage! I've been to Sedona once and I LOVE the Red Rock Country. It is my place. Tell Carla Hello! I met her once many years ago at Albany. Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho
Re: [IceHorses] O/T Mandy
Congratulations! And best wishes for Mandy and Walt! Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandic Sheepdogs Website: www.sandcreekicelandics.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [IceHorses] Prey/Predator
For those of you who are clicker training, I'd ask you how long you've been doing it? Many, many years around 10 years. Are you SURE you aren't going to regret it somewhere down the road? ABSOLUTELY SURE!! Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho
Re: [IceHorses] Colostrum
This is by Kathleen of the haflinger list, who is on foal watch for a herd of mares (she asked me if the Icelandics' colostrum came already frozen :-)): I have some on hand but I had to freeze it! :o) Colostrum freezes well and can even be microwaved without harming those handy little antibodies. That is definitely not my understanding. I've been told NOT to microwave it, and to warm it carefully by placing in warm water. Are there any studies available that show microwaving colostrum is okay? Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho
Re: [IceHorses] Colostrum
Thanks Judy, reading the study I think I'd stick with thawing in warm water over microwaving. Hopefully I'll never need it! Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Stella
What gait for Stella in this picture? Flat walk or running walk? I'm not so great at judging speed from a still picture. Looks close to a trot to me, so I'd guess Fox Trot. I still haven't gotten Liz's book yet, but I do intend to get it eventually. The list is just so long, and the money stack so short! LOL Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho
Re: [IceHorses] Christopher
I bet you would love to have him back. Then you could ruin him and push him off on someone else to fix problems you are too inexperienced and arrogant and ignorant to even TRY and deal with! but I'm sorry, who IS this person, this monster?! You are WAY out of line. If this is what this list is going to be reduced to I've had enough. Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho
Re: [IceHorses] Re: [Iceland-Dogs] Benni Video
Hi Cheryl...Benni is so cute! Takes his job very serious. Just like Lucy, my Aussie Kelpie Thanks Raven. He is cute and the absolute sweetest boy! Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho
Re: [IceHorses] Re: [Iceland-Dogs] Benni Video
Benni had another go at herding this morning. Sorry that went to the wrong group! Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho
Re: [IceHorses] Horse or Pony
You don't have anything to say about horses though, do you? Just about words... Are there semantics lists out there that you might join for these discussions? 0. *your* message isn't about horses. it's about me, and is neither informed nor polite. Vicka don't let it bother you, it's just par for the course. It would appear some are uncomfortable having a polite discussion with an intelligent person who may question or suggest an alternative thought process while on a path to gain knowledge so they resort to personal attacks in an effort to silence them. It is really sad that some see their opinion as being the ONLY acceptable opinion and can't accpet any discussion of a differing opinon without resorting to rude and personal attacks. I've enjoyed your thoughts on semantics it's been educational for me, someone who is barely able to get my thoughts put down in words! On the pony vs. horse thing, as I've said before I really don't care what people want to call them. I prefer to call them horse, as pony for most brings an image of a small, lightly built equine not capable of carrying an adult, suitable only for a child or a cart. Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho
Re: [IceHorses] hubby and Nas
Cute...though I hardly recognized Donny with his pants on ;) Exactly! Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho
Re: [IceHorses] You Tube
In more recent years Kelpmate was brought out as a supplement. Isn't Source basically a kelp supplement too? Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic. All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] The video every Icelandic Horse owner should have: http://IceHorses.net/video.html [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses [] IceHorses ToolBar http://iceryder.ourtoolbar.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [IceHorses] Spakur
Cheryl sent this a couple of weeks ago. What do you think of this photo? Robyn Thanks for sending the photo Robyn! Spakur besides being very naturally gaited, all Fön's foals are, he is really a sweet boy too. Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic. All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] The video every Icelandic Horse owner should have: http://IceHorses.net/video.html [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses [] IceHorses ToolBar http://iceryder.ourtoolbar.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [IceHorses] Natural Gait
[] Was he cantering in these pictures? Well one of the drawbacks to being the photographer, whether the horses or at my granddaughter's dance recitals, is that it's hard to see anything clearly through a little view finder. You really don't get to see and enjoy the event execpt through the photos. I'll see if I got any photos immediately before or after the photo. [] Do you have any pictures of him gaiting not in snow? (where we can see the feet more clearly?) I'll see what I can find. Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho
Re: FW: [IceHorses] Spakur
Robyn...very nice!! Raven Thanks Raven, Spakur is a very sweet boy too! Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho
Re: [IceHorses] Long Mane
So many horses with regular length mane and tails spend their lives in stalls, too. my sister lives in Long Island and tells me there are a fair number of stables there where the horses have no turnout whatsoever, they live in their stalls 24/7 and only get out when their owners come to go riding. IMO, just because it is done doesn't make it okay. IMO, keeping a horse in a stall 24/7 unless you come to ride is just not an acceptable practice long mane and tail or not. I know it is done all the time, that doesn't make it fair to the horse that is suffering just because so many others are suffering from the same unnatural conditions. The thing I find really bizarre is that if that same photo was of an Icelandic Horse some who are the most vocal that there is nothing going on would be all over it with claims of abuse?? I wrote up a list of the things that make me feel the horse lives a sad, unnatural lifestyle. But you know what... if I post it someone will go to extreme lengths to twist my statements and look for crazy obscure angles to argue from, and really I just don't have the energy or desire to bat it back and forth all day. Again, I see a horse that LIKELY leads a sad, unnatural life, if some don't that IS OKAY. Again, I hope I am wrong. My best wishes to Sonny, he is a beautiful boy! Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Holar now gait and shoeing
I understand that for one of the last evaluations, they brought in a horseshoer from Iceland to shoe all the horses. There may be a horseshoer from Iceland present, but no one would be required to use his services. Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho
Re: [IceHorses] Was Holar, now evalutions
If you've spent thousands getting your horse there and he's about to be disqualified because his shoe has spread from it's original form, yeah, you're going to be happy there is a farrier on hand to quickly re-shoe him. Which brings up another good point...why should it cost thousands to get your horse TRAINED for evaluations? Karen, I DID NOT SAY anything about TRAINING. It costs for health papers to travel, fuel to haul 2000 miles round trip, vehicle checkup to make sure you make it 2000 miles hauling a horse, hotel, stall rental, farm sitters, missed work, etc., etc. Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho
Re: [IceHorses] Outside horses
How (and/or with what) do you treat the rain rot? Pat, I don't know about Denise but IME tea tree oil full strength worked wonders! Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandic Sheepdogs Website: www.sandcreekicelandics.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [IceHorses] Long Mane
Ok, now I'm really curious. What's so wrong? The saddle? Actually I didn't even notice the saddle, had to go back to look. No Karen I'm looking at the horse, the whole horse, a sad horse. Maybe I'm wrong, I hope so, he is too beautiful to suffer the type of horse keeping I imagine he is subjected to satisfy someone's ego. You see a happy clean horse, I don't, but hey that's okay! :o) Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho
Re: [IceHorses] Long Mane
No, Cheryl - Janice has had Jaspar a long time. Okay wrong horse. Would you make the same rash judgments about... say - Kalman? Karen AGAIN, it's not the mane, it is the WHOLE horse. Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho
Re: [IceHorses] Long Mane
I'm starting to think you don't really have any reason to think there's anything wrong with this horse...? I'm starting to think you just want to argue! :o) Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho
Re: [IceHorses] Long Mane
A few more pictures of Sonny. Wow, beautiful! Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho
Re: [IceHorses] My Neck of the Woods....
cool looking dog! Thanks Bia, and to think the Icelandic Sheepdog nearly disappeared. They are really great dogs. I'm so glad they're still around! Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandic Sheepdogs Website: www.sandcreekicelandics.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [IceHorses] nasi swollen pic
What would you give for the swelling? Nasi's swelling does not look abnormal to me. It is ok, as long as it is still draining and as long as he is getting enough exercise. Hi Anneliese, I am sure you have more experience than me with gelding! I usually go as much or more by feel! But still that seems a little extra swollen, I may be wrong. My vet usually has me give bute. Off to get ready for the long drive to a couple of PennHIP appointments! Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho
Re: [IceHorses] nasi swollen pic
What's with your hip? Do you need a replacement? Yes probably. But my real issue right now is my back, I holding out til they get good at disc replacements! I can't hold out much longer! I really need some Wonders worked from modern medicine! The PennHIP is a method of checking dogs for the potential for Hip Dysplasia. I am getting PennHIP tests my youngest two Icelandic Sheepdogs today, then I'm done with screening my dogs for hip dysplasia, for a while at least! Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho
