Re: [IceHorses] First Cutting

2007-04-28 Thread Sue McKenney
>   
Hi Bia,

I would be interested in the contact info for these dealers...I paid 
$10/bale for my timothy (still a bargain compared to CA where it was up 
to $25/bale)!



Kolur and Brenna are totally spoiled from the bagged Safe Starch Forage they 
have been getting twice a day.  Now they think hay of any variety is for 
pee-ons.

Sue

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Re: [IceHorses] First Cutting

2007-04-28 Thread pippa258
Janice McDonald wrote:
>  I went to a purina seminar recently and the woman said feeding too much hay 
> is just  waste, the horse doesnt metabloize extra.  So if thats true then why 
> are my horses all fat on free choice hay and jaspar loses weight immediate on 
> flakes?
She's hoping you'll buy all that "top-notch" Purina horse feed instead? ;-)

Wish her theory was also true about chocolate... :-)

Trish



RE: [IceHorses] First Cutting

2007-04-28 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> But, I'm gonna try to get some of the girls on this list who live this
way to make a truck out there to visit Karen and points west so we can all
meet (FRAN!!!).

Fran knows the way, so come on down!

Karen Thomas
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Re: [IceHorses] First Cutting

2007-04-28 Thread Janice McDonald
yes it is interesting!  Our "real" first hay will be in around
mid-May.  For now the early hay is full of weeds and usually a mix of
ryrgrass, clover and some early costal.  It is very rich and green and
I have to peel off small portions.  I cant wait til my hay man calls
and says he is on the way with this years first cutting of real
coastal!  I went to a purina seminar recently and the woman said
feeding too much hay is just waste, the horse doesnt metabloize extra.
 So if thats true then why are my horses all fat on free choice hay
and jaspar loses weight immediate on flakes?
Janice
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Re: [IceHorses] First Cutting

2007-04-28 Thread bia
> Hi Bia,
> I would be interested in the contact info for these dealers...I paid
> $10/bale for my timothy >
> What area of NC are you located in?  I'm in western NC.
> Thanks,
> Trish

hey trish, I'm near oxford, NC (central NC). email me directly re the info
[EMAIL PROTECTED] don't want to stay off topic on the list for too
many posts since I tend to do that too often! LOL! But, I'm gonna try to get
some of the girls on this list who live this way to make a truck out there
to visit Karen and points west so we can all meet (FRAN!!!). Hopefully
sooner than later but it's hard to get everyone together... If you do come
out for hay though... PLEASE let me know so we can meet up. Bia






Re: [IceHorses] First Cutting

2007-04-28 Thread pippa258
bia wrote:
> There are 2 good dealers here one in Louisburg and one near Wake Forest. I
> get alfalfa and timothy all winter long... heavy bales. And I just got a mix
> of alfalfa/timothy (each bale is mixed) to store for the summer as needed.
> it's worth paying a bit more for such nice heavy bales to me. Happy to give
> info if anyone wants it.
>   
Hi Bia,

I would be interested in the contact info for these dealers...I paid 
$10/bale for my timothy (still a bargain compared to CA where it was up 
to $25/bale)!

What area of NC are you located in?  I'm in western NC.

Thanks,
Trish



Re: [IceHorses] First Cutting

2007-04-28 Thread pippa258
Cherie Mascis wrote:
>  > Have you guys had your first hay cuttings yet? Janice
>   
>
> We are very low on hay in Western North Carolina, several late frosts have 
> set us back quite a bit, no one I know has cut hay yet.  Usually, my horses 
> are fully on pasture by now, but I'm still scrounging for more hay.
Definitely low here in western NC.   None of the dealers around here 
have any local hay.  I just bought a load of timothy from someone who 
trucks it in from NY.

Trish




Re: [IceHorses] First Cutting

2007-04-28 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 28/04/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hay cutting doesn't normally start until the first-middle of May in my part
> (slightly west of center) of NC.  It's too cool at night before that, and
> too much dew forms, making it almost a sure thing that the hay will mold if
> cut earlier.   Sometimes we don't cut our fescue until early June.  The
> Bermuda grass that's grown just east of here, all the way to the coast, is a
> summer grass.  They don't cut it before late June, and they get cuttings all
> summer, into the very early fall.

Interesting when things are done in difference climates.  We usually
don't get our hay until mid-July.  Then if we're lucky, we pull it
right from the field and stack it and tarp it immediately.

Though this year, we may just hire the fellow to deliver it as well.
He lives a fair bit away, but his hay is beautiful.

Wanda


Re: [IceHorses] First Cutting

2007-04-28 Thread bia
yeah... the orchard over here in central/north area of NC is not cut til may
and is only around for a couple of months so I have to buy a bunch and store
it. My guys were raised on alfalfa (generally second cut) and I guess they
don't like the fescue because they pee on fescue hay. They will eat the
green fescue growing but not the hay...I have never fed bermuda but I buy 80
pound bails of timothy from a broker near me for 7.25 a bale and store it.
The broker has hay all the time so any of you North Carolinians who can';t
find hay out west it may be worth a drive out here to trailer back some hay.
There are 2 good dealers here one in Louisburg and one near Wake Forest. I
get alfalfa and timothy all winter long... heavy bales. And I just got a mix
of alfalfa/timothy (each bale is mixed) to store for the summer as needed.
it's worth paying a bit more for such nice heavy bales to me. Happy to give
info if anyone wants it.



[IceHorses] First Cutting

2007-04-28 Thread bia
Subject: Re: [IceHorses] First Cutting


> yeah... the orchard over here in central/north area of NC is not cut til
may
> and is only around for a couple of months so I have to buy a bunch and
store
> it. My guys were raised on alfalfa (generally second cut) and I guess they
> don't like the fescue because they pee on fescue hay. They will eat the
> green fescue growing but not the hay...I have never fed bermuda but I buy
80
> pound bails of timothy from a broker near me for 7.25 a bale and store it.
> The broker has hay all the time so any of you North Carolinians who can';t
> find hay out west it may be worth a drive out here to trailer back some
hay.
> There are 2 good dealers here one in Louisburg and one near Wake Forest. I
> get alfalfa and timothy all winter long... heavy bales. And I just got a
mix
> of alfalfa/timothy (each bale is mixed) to store for the summer as needed.
> it's worth paying a bit more for such nice heavy bales to me. Happy to
give
> info if anyone wants it.
>
>
>
> "By endurance we conquer" - Earnest Shackleton




RE: [IceHorses] First Cutting

2007-04-28 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> We are very low on hay in Western North Carolina, several late frosts
have set us back quite a bit, no one I know has cut hay yet.  Usually, my
horses are fully on pasture by now, but I'm still scrounging for more hay.

Hay cutting doesn't normally start until the first-middle of May in my part
(slightly west of center) of NC.  It's too cool at night before that, and
too much dew forms, making it almost a sure thing that the hay will mold if
cut earlier.   Sometimes we don't cut our fescue until early June.  The
Bermuda grass that's grown just east of here, all the way to the coast, is a
summer grass.  They don't cut it before late June, and they get cuttings all
summer, into the very early fall.

Karen Thomas, NC


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Re: [IceHorses] First Cutting

2007-04-27 Thread Cherie Mascis
 > Have you guys had your first hay cuttings yet?
> Janice

We are very low on hay in Western North Carolina, several late frosts have 
set us back quite a bit, no one I know has cut hay yet.  Usually, my horses 
are fully on pasture by now, but I'm still scrounging for more hay.

Cherie 



Re: [IceHorses] First Cutting

2007-04-27 Thread Judy Ryder


>I had a problem here with my old guy colicking on the new hay, the
> forst cutting that was mostly all clover after all winter on coastal
> bermuda which is lower sugar etc.  Have you guys had your first hay
> cuttings yet?


I don't know if it's first cutting, but the bermuda at this time of the year 
is impossible to feed by flakes.  You can't pick it up as it falls to pieces 
all over the place (especially inside my shoes and socks).


Judy
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Re: [IceHorses] First Cutting

2007-04-27 Thread pyramid
On Fri, Apr 27, 2007 at 05:50:40PM -0500, Janice McDonald wrote:
> I had a problem here with my old guy colicking on the new hay, the
> forst cutting that was mostly all clover after all winter on coastal
> bermuda which is lower sugar etc.  Have you guys had your first hay
> cuttings yet?

actually they came later, just this week.  a couple bales broke in
stjarni's paddock and he and his pals were fat and happy, lying around
eating all day.  but it didn't make him any hotter, he was his usual
pleasant self for my rides the last three days :)

--vicka


Re: [IceHorses] First Cutting

2007-04-27 Thread pyramid
On Fri, Apr 27, 2007 at 06:17:38PM -0600, Wanda Lauscher wrote:
> > I had a problem here with my old guy colicking on the new hay, the
> > forst cutting that was mostly all clover after all winter on coastal
> > bermuda which is lower sugar etc.  Have you guys had your first hay
> > cuttings yet?
> > Janice
> 
> First cutting of hay?  Seriouslyyou have a first cutting of hay in April?
> 
> We've just got leaves coming out on the trees.

ha, we don't even have that yet, but we were running low on hay so we
had some shipped up from a ways south.  we still have big piles of snow
under the highway overpasses, too :)

--vicka