Re: [IceHorses] Lovely farm for Sale in KY - 80+ acres near Anneliese - VERY reasonable
On Dec 10, 2007 10:04 PM, Mary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So...the love of my life (whom I didn't marry when asked in the past) is > interested in living with me...it would be an interracial > relationship...would that be something that wouldn't go over well in KY? I > am not trying to upset anyone, but now more worried about my own safety OMG! Is that really an issue in the states?!! V
Re: [IceHorses] Lovely farm for Sale in KY - 80+ acres near Anneliese - VERY reasonable
On Dec 10, 2007 9:33 PM, Raven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And you know what ,,,living in an area such as thatas a NON WHITE > WOMAN... Oops...I should've kept reading the posts, I think I know what N word you're all referring to... V
Re: [IceHorses] Lovely farm for Sale in KY - 80+ acres near Anneliese - VERY reasonable
On Dec 10, 2007 9:31 PM, Raven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Karen...I did not appreciate living in an area where I heard the N > word as part of a conversation. Back off. Raven > This must be a cultural thing because I'm not sure I know what the N word is...I do know what the F word is V
Re: [IceHorses] Lovely farm for Sale in KY - 80+ acres near Anneliese - VERY reasonable
On 12/10/07 9:12 PM, "Raven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ah...Raymondville, MO... I LOVE to ride, spend a week or two there. > It's a beautiful area!! But yes...no way could I live there. <;] > When we lived in Shelbyville, we were told that we would get used to > hearing the N word, in time. Problem was that I didn't ever want to > get to that place where that word and other hateful words did not > effect me. Now...remember this is MY experience and MY thoughts. > Flame suit ON. > > Raven Raven, when you talked about the N-word, I originally thought that that referred to "Northener". Ha, shows how naïve I am. But no, I have not heard it around here. Anneliese
Re: [IceHorses] Lovely farm for Sale in KY - 80+ acres near Anneliese - VERY reasonable
On 12/10/07 9:04 PM, "Mary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So...the love of my life (whom I didn't marry when asked in the past) is > interested in living with me...it would be an interracial > relationship...would that be something that wouldn't go over well in KY? I > am not trying to upset anyone, but now more worried about my own safety > > Mary Mary: I don't know enough or enough people here for that matter to be able to answer that. Anneliese
Re: [IceHorses] Lovely farm for Sale in KY - 80+ acres near Anneliese - VERY reasonable
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:04:41 -0600, you wrote: > I >need to live in a place where diversity is accepted and welcomed with >open arms Come and live in Pembrokeshire, S Wales. There was a 100% increase in racist incidents last year - from one to two. Our little village (around 150 full time residents) has at least 5 mixed race couples that I know of. Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk ---
Re: [IceHorses] Lovely farm for Sale in KY - 80+ acres near Anneliese - VERY reasonable
>> You'll also frequently hear the N-word in rap songs and in the subways of NYC well...thank goodness i don't live in NYC. i live in the Twin Cities Metro area, about 30 miles east of St. Paul. I never hear that word in my day to day living...at work nor in my community. >>KY doesn't exactly have a monopoly on racism I never said it did. What I said...was that FOR MEit was unaccepted to live in a community where that word and other racial slurs were okay. That FOR ME...I was not willing to live in an area where I was treated badly based on my skin color and last name. THAT FOR ME...it was NOT a place where I could be happy. >> I was raised not to use the N-word I'm glad that your parents raised you in that manner. Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
Re: [IceHorses] Lovely farm for Sale in KY - 80+ acres near Anneliese - VERY reasonable
>>As the adoptive mother of a racially diverse family, I would truggle with anything that addressed the race of my kids Nancy...your children sound beautiful. <;]I'm Latina...second generation American, my mom is from Mexico, grandpa from France and grandma from Spain. My dad was first generation born in the USA, his parents were Mexican. Thanks for being a foster parent!!! As a young childI spent three years in foster care (long story). You've earned your angel wings. Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
Re: [IceHorses] Lovely farm for Sale in KY - 80+ acres near Anneliese - VERY reasonable
So...the love of my life (whom I didn't marry when asked in the past) is interested in living with me...it would be an interracial relationship...would that be something that wouldn't go over well in KY? I am not trying to upset anyone, but now more worried about my own safety I honestly don't know about KY, Mary. I know that there are a notable number of interracial couples all over the south who live in peace - it's certainly not shocking in NC to see a mixed race couple. On the other hand, I know there are racists scattered all across the country - I'm just not so convinced that racism is more common in the south than it is anywhere else. (Exactly where is shock-jock Howard Stern from? Manhattan, maybe?) The truth is that it only takes one nut-case to hurt someone, no matter where you live. Karen Thomas, NC
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> Karen...I did not appreciate living in an area where > I heard the N > word as part of a conversation. Back off. Raven > > > They do say that there like it is normal language. Lorraine Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [IceHorses] Lovely farm for Sale in KY - 80+ acres near Anneliese - VERY reasonable
>> I did go to NM, LOVED it there too, OH MY... I have also been to the Eastern side of OK, in December, LOVED it there too I love NM..so beautiful there. I have never lived there...just traveled through. I have lived in OK and love it there too. But, it does get a bit humid. Love all the red soil. <;] You do need to go down to Hill Country, it's beautiful there. I was born and raised in Texas. I love Texasbut I would not want to live there now. Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
Re: [IceHorses] Lovely farm for Sale in KY - 80+ acres near Anneliese - VERY reasonable
>> have heard myself around here that Northerners are perceived as "cold". Never bothered me though that's cuz..it's so fricking cold up north. HA! just kidding! Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
Re: [IceHorses] Lovely farm for Sale in KY - 80+ acres near Anneliese - VERY reasonable
>> I lived in Raymondville, Missouri for 6 weeks and freaked when I heard the N word a number of times. Ah...Raymondville, MO... I LOVE to ride, spend a week or two there. It's a beautiful area!! But yes...no way could I live there. <;] When we lived in Shelbyville, we were told that we would get used to hearing the N word, in time. Problem was that I didn't ever want to get to that place where that word and other hateful words did not effect me. Now...remember this is MY experience and MY thoughts. Flame suit ON. Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
Re: [IceHorses] Lovely farm for Sale in KY - 80+ acres near Anneliese - VERY reasonable
Hummm..I haven't heard that in North Carolina, but I lived in Raymondville, Missouri for 6 weeks and freaked when I heard the N word a number of times. Exactly. You'll also frequently hear the N-word in rap songs and in the subways of NYC. And what about Nazi Germany? KY doesn't exactly have a monopoly on racism. What about the OK City bombings? That guy - what was his name? - he was a white supremacist. And on the other extreme, you'll find liberal, educated men and woman who happen to be from rural parts of the south. Where the heck do you think liberals Al Gore and John Edwards are from? Are they the stereotypical southern bigots? I don't think so! Best to judge people for what they are, not for where they are from. For what it's worth, it's just as insulting to me to hear negative and unfair stereotypes about rural southerners as it may be to others to hear negative stererotypes applied to other ethnic groups. I'm from a LONG line of southerners...born and raised in the rural south, in an area that up until 20-30 years ago was a lot like Anneliese's part of KY...and I was raised not to use the N-word. Karen Thomas, NC
Re: [IceHorses] Lovely farm for Sale in KY - 80+ acres near Anneliese - VERY reasonable
>> Oh for goodness sakes! I've traveled over most of this country, and there are rednecks everywhere and there are good people everywhere BTW...there is a huge diffenece betwen traveling through or visiting a place and living there..day to day. Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
RE: [IceHorses] Lovely farm for Sale in KY - 80+ acres near Anneliese - VERY reasonable
So...the love of my life (whom I didn't marry when asked in the past) is interested in living with me...it would be an interracial relationship...would that be something that wouldn't go over well in KY? I am not trying to upset anyone, but now more worried about my own safety Mary
Re: [IceHorses] Lovely farm for Sale in KY - 80+ acres near Anneliese - VERY reasonable
Oh Raven, that would be a problem for me. Here in Southern Oregon, redneck land if there ever was one, I have NEVER heard the "N word" spoken aloud. As the adoptive mother of a racially diverse family, I would struggle with anything that addressed the race of my kids. Our first adopted sons were from Viet Nam. Brenda was born in Mexico. Ronnie is African American. Foster Jenny is a gorgeous blend of Puerto Rican, El Salvadoran and Mexican. Stephanie, Bruce, the three birth children and I are all rather white. I was truly surprised when Child Protective Services had the nerve to ask me to take a White child - shows we all have our "issues" doesn't it? Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Lovely farm for Sale in KY - 80+ acres near Anneliese - VERY reasonable
>> it offends me to hear someone berate an entire state Karenplease read my post. I stated that KY was NOT FOR ME. I need to live in a place where diversity is accepted and welcomed with open arms, and the area where we were located ...did not accept diversity. Believe me... I was personally affected by this at work and out in the community. Maybe if we had moved to Louisville, my experiences would have been different. Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
Re: [IceHorses] Lovely farm for Sale in KY - 80+ acres near Anneliese - VERY reasonable
On Dec 10, 2007 7:48 PM, Anneliese Virro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > On 12/10/07 8:01 PM, "Raven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> have not been to KY as of yet...so I will have to do that first. > > > > well...debbie, we can do a road trip! <;] > > > > Raven > > You can, and you can camp in our woods if you want - valley or top of a > hill, your choice. > > Anneliese > Anneliese, Thank you, I am waiting for our land to sell... times are not good for that it seems, at the moment, But when it sells I will have MONEY to go HUNTING for our future home... So, all just seems to HINGE on that happening... to bad you can not send me the air there!!! OR MONEY From the SKY!!! HA HA.. But the pictures are wonderful... I am certainly intrigued.. Dan and I have spent many days and weeks in the Black Hills, I LOVE it there, however, I just do not see it being our home, as much as I WANT it to be, I have great friends there, however it still gets COLD there... I need to start going other places... Expanding my/our horizons and get a feel for other areas, I did go to NM, LOVED it there too, OH MY... I have also been to the Eastern side of OK, in December, LOVED it there too... then -- I and my horses love our track system, take a look~~~ http://picasaweb.google.com/dakota.charm/TrackForHorses
Re: [IceHorses] Lovely farm for Sale in KY - 80+ acres near Anneliese - VERY reasonable
On 10/12/2007, Anneliese Virro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have heard myself around here that Northerners are perceived as "cold". > Never bothered me though. Oh Lordy...I guess we Canadian's must be right in the deep freeze then. ;) Wanda studying my new downfilled mitts.
Re: [IceHorses] Lovely farm for Sale in KY - 80+ acres near Anneliese - VERY reasonable
>> can be much more tolerant than someone who has spent his/her entire life in just one place i'm actually very tolerant and greatly appreciate diversity. i grew up as an army brat so i was exposed to many cultures and lived in a different states every year. but the area where we located too, was just not for us. yes..the area was beautiful, but i need to live in a culturally diverse area, where differences are appreciated. i'm glad to hear that things have changed. it's a great place to visit. Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
Re: [IceHorses] Lovely farm for Sale in KY - 80+ acres near Anneliese - VERY reasonable
On Dec 10, 2007 7:41 PM, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Karen...I did not appreciate living in an area where I heard the N word > as part of a conversation. Back off. Raven > > Raven, you can hear ethnic slurs anywhere you go. It reflects on the > person making the comments, certainly not anything unique to one state. > There are good people everywhere, and there are rednecks everywhere - it > offends me to hear someone berate an entire state. > > Karen Thomas, NC > > > Karen, she was asked why she did not like KY... please be understanding... It is her opinion, I don't think it fair to try to change or judge her opinion... especially when she was asked... -- I and my horses love our track system, take a look~~~ http://picasaweb.google.com/dakota.charm/TrackForHorses
Re: [IceHorses] Lovely farm for Sale in KY - 80+ acres near Anneliese - VERY reasonable
On 12/10/07 8:31 PM, "Raven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Karen...I did not appreciate living in an area where I heard the N > word as part of a conversation. Back off. Raven I have heard myself around here that Northerners are perceived as "cold". Never bothered me though. Anneliese
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Karen...I did not appreciate living in an area where I heard the N word as part of a conversation. Back off. Raven Hummm..I haven't heard that in North Carolina, but I lived in Raymondville, Missouri for 6 weeks and freaked when I heard the N word a number of times. Cherie
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> Oh for goodness sakes! I've traveled over most of this country, and there > are rednecks everywhere and there are good people everywhere. Exactly where > do you live that is so culturally superior, Raven? Kentucky is just > lovely. > > > Karen Thomas, NC Actually Karen, I can see where Raven is coming from. Yes, KY is lovely but it does seem to me that people in some of the northern places such as Chicago, perhaps St.Paul Minneapolis area are a bit more cosmopolitan and better educated than in rural KY. It is changing though and has changed a lot from 30 years ago when we first bought this place. Anneliese
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> - it offends me to hear someone berate an entire state. How about an entire country? Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
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On 12/10/07 8:01 PM, "Raven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> have not been to KY as of yet...so I will have to do that first. > > well...debbie, we can do a road trip! <;] > > Raven You can, and you can camp in our woods if you want - valley or top of a hill, your choice. Anneliese
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On 12/10/07 7:57 PM, "Raven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> What did you dislike about KY? > > Hum...let's see...it was just a bit too much of a cultural shock to us. > Raven I can see that. But I am used to cultural shock. When I first came to the USA in 1965, I was totally flabbergasted about how people in this here country waste food and a lot of other things as well. Having since been exposed to more cultural shocks, I can be much more tolerant than someone who has spent his/her entire life in just one place. Anneliese
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Karen...I did not appreciate living in an area where I heard the N word as part of a conversation. Back off. Raven Raven, you can hear ethnic slurs anywhere you go.It reflects on the person making the comments, certainly not anything unique to one state. There are good people everywhere, and there are rednecks everywhere - it offends me to hear someone berate an entire state. Karen Thomas, NC
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And you know what ,,,living in an area such as thatas a NON WHITE WOMAN...was hurtful and there was no way that I could every had gotten use to that! Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
Re: [IceHorses] Lovely farm for Sale in KY - 80+ acres near Anneliese - VERY reasonable
Karen...I did not appreciate living in an area where I heard the N word as part of a conversation. Back off. Raven
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What did you dislike about KY? >> Hum...let's see...it was just a bit too much of a cultural shock to us. Oh for goodness sakes! I've traveled over most of this country, and there are rednecks everywhere and there are good people everywhere. Exactly where do you live that is so culturally superior, Raven? Kentucky is just lovely. Karen Thomas, NC
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>>have not been to KY as of yet...so I will have to do that first. well...debbie, we can do a road trip! <;] Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
Re: [IceHorses] Lovely farm for Sale in KY - 80+ acres near Anneliese - VERY reasonable
>>used to feel that Kentucky was way behind in progress in comparison with the rest of the world I just could not handle that...when we live there. >>But believe me: it is changing and changing rapidly. That is good. <;]
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>> What did you dislike about KY? Hum...let's see...it was just a bit too much of a cultural shock to us. Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
Re: [IceHorses] Lovely farm for Sale in KY - 80+ acres near Anneliese - VERY reasonable
i read somewhere the general rule of thumb is one acre per horse but you have to feed hay and grain and five acres pasture per horse if you want to not have to feed them at all, but icelandics can be easy keepers... Those rules of thumb are very regional though - I remember someone telling me that in certain western states, the rule is more like 1 horse per 20 acres! Karen Thomas, NC
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I am so spoiled here... cell phone is all I have, I don't even have a land line anymore... I am a good rider... love to ride out and move, however, Icy's do fly a bit faster then I go on average Mary go for it, then in 18 months when I finally get everything organized here... we can move on... I am seriously looking at KY... So keep me posted... I don't know if I will fit in, being from the North, but, man, I am so tired of the COLD here... I know I fit in in the Black Hills, I just do, but, it gets COLD there... our goal is to live where we can ride year round, either horses or Dan rides a Motercycle... I have not been to KY as of yet... so I will have to do that first.. -- I and my horses love our track system, take a look~~~ http://picasaweb.google.com/dakota.charm/TrackForHorses
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i read somewhere the general rule of thumb is one acre per horse but you have to feed hay and grain and five acres pasture per horse if you want to not have to feed them at all, but icelandics can be easy keepers... Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
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You could do a track system and hay the inside area which would keep your horses moving a lot... -- I and my horses love our track system, take a look~~~ http://picasaweb.google.com/dakota.charm/TrackForHorses
Re: [IceHorses] Lovely farm for Sale in KY - 80+ acres near Anneliese - VERY reasonable
On 12/10/07 2:01 PM, "Karen Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > My guess is that there is between 15-25 acres of established pasture > (probably bluegrass, fescue mixed, maybe?) That should hold you for a > while, don't you think? :) The perimeter fence is barbed wire, which seems > to be the prevailing fence of the area. We would have put up fence inside > the barbed wire as needed, gradually taking down the barbed wire. > > > Karen Thomas, NC I was told that the place was half woods and half pasture. And think that is probably correct. Anneliese
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>> Another problem, though, is that I have only ever had my horses on >> drylot. Even when I lived in CO. How many acres of pasture is >> needed/horse? The rule of thumb in NC is 1-3 acres per horse...but our farm here in NC seemed to grow enough grass to support 1 horse per half-acre. Seriously, it took several years of neglect for us to get our farm "poor" enough to be able to leave the horses out all day, all year. My guess is that farm would be similar, but I'm not sure. With something like 15-25 (only guessing) acres of established pasture, I suspect your three horses wouldn't starve! I'm sure you could get a local farmer to cut part of the pasture for hay, so you'd probably be set year-round. Karen Thomas, NC
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Are there any pictures of the house? Inside? Is it livable and needs to be gradually repaired, or is it unlivable at the moment? I have pictures, Mary, as well as video. I probably should contact you privately about how I can get all I have to you. I might need to put it on a CD and mail it. So...is there pasture now, or would I need to plant? My guess is that there is between 15-25 acres of established pasture (probably bluegrass, fescue mixed, maybe?) That should hold you for a while, don't you think? :) The perimeter fence is barbed wire, which seems to be the prevailing fence of the area. We would have put up fence inside the barbed wire as needed, gradually taking down the barbed wire. Karen Thomas, NC
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On 12/10/07 12:17 PM, "Mary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are there any pictures of the house? Inside? Is it livable and needs to be > gradually repaired, or is it unlivable at the moment? > > So...is there pasture now, or would I need to plant? I forgto to answer the pasture qyestion. The place is about 83-83 acres. Half pasture, half woods (I am told). So no need to plant. Anneliese
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On 12/10/07 12:17 PM, "Mary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are there any pictures of the house? Inside? Is it livable and needs to be > gradually repaired, or is it unlivable at the moment? > > So...is there pasture now, or would I need to plant? > > Mary The house is livable - marginally. The old people lived there until he died this spring. It is pretty rustic and to make it comfortable it needs work. Karen, did you take pictures of the inside? It was pretty messy when we looked at it but I think it has been cleaned up now. I can take pictures sometime. Anneleise
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Are there any pictures of the house? Inside? Is it livable and needs to be gradually repaired, or is it unlivable at the moment? So...is there pasture now, or would I need to plant? Mary
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On 12/10/07 11:02 AM, "Mary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another problem, though, is that I have only ever had my horses on drylot. > Even when I lived in CO. How many acres of pasture is needed/horse? > > *drooling* > > Mary Poor poor horses. If they come here they will think they have died and gone to horse heaven. Please don't ask how much is "needed" (this is not California, after all, we can be more generous), ask what they will enjoy and thrive on. In a pinch, you could take in boarders. Anneliese
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I am going through a divorce and chomping at the bit to get out of California! I was considering Kansas City area because the company I work for has a clinic very close, but I could find work anywhere...as long as there is a veterinary clinic. I only have once icey, (and two other un-mentionable geldings), but the idea of views forever and horseback riding with others right out the property is SOOO temptingand I LOVE fixer-uppers...I am the daughter of a builder/developer and I bought a run down house out here for peanuts, fixed it up (yeah...it took about 5 years) and resold it for mucho mucho mucho profit (all on my own because my ex was as ass about helping me).. Another problem, though, is that I have only ever had my horses on drylot. Even when I lived in CO. How many acres of pasture is needed/horse? *drooling* Mary
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OMGosh...that was one of the things we hated about KY. Everyone > smoked...everywhere. It drove us crazy!! > > Raven Raven: That is also one of the things I used to dislike when we first bought this place 30 years ago. But believe it or not: this has changed radically. Smoking has now become socially unacceptable even here in Kentucky. There have been a (very) few men who smoke on our construction site. But they retire to a place far away from they house (ashamedly apparently) when they need their fix. I used to feel that Kentucky was way behind in progress in comparison with the rest of the world. But believe me: it is changing and changing rapidly. The internet, I am sure, has something to do with that. Anneliese
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On 12/9/07 8:46 PM, "Karen Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > BTW, I should probably clarify that I have NO vested interest in the sale of > this property whatsoever. I'm not a realtor, nor do I play one on the > internet - I just think someone would love to be Anneliese's riding buddy - > too bad it's not going to be me anytime soon... > Karen Thomas, NC > And I need a riding buddy real bad! Seriously! I don't like to ride out all alone because if something happened to me, no one would find me for days and I would starve to death. You'll probably say: take your cell phone! Yeah right. We don't even have cell phone reception in our valley, much less in some of the other rugged areas we ride in. My husband can ride but he has always more important things to do. He is not anywhere near as horse-crazy as I am. And I would also like to ride with a more competent rider than he is. Watching him get on a horse always makes me slightly - let's say "impatient" to put it mildly. Anneliese
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Turf Farm. Foxrun Farm is a saddlebred farm, in fact Monica > used my TWH gelding Wizard to tease her mare before presenting them to > her stallion. We love her farm...our horses received the best of care > and the farm is beautiful. We even met William Shatner and his wife > Nerine. She was very pretty. Are you near Shelbyville? Hi Raven: We are about 1 1/2 hours southwest of Shelbyville. Our area is more hilly/knobby than the Shelbyville area. What did you dislike about KY? I must say I prefer the level of education and sophistication of Evanston, IL over that of KY, but our love of nature, piece and quiet, privacy and all that we have here in KY is even more important to us. And the length of winter y'all in MN have to contend with would be totally abhorrent to us. Anneliese
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Hi Mic >>>It;s great here, smoking is completely banned inside in any public place. But only recently in most pubs, right? It has been banned in most provinces in Canada for quite a while - restaurants, public places and even outside the hospital where my mother was. Robyn Icelandic Horse Farm Robyn Hood & Phil Pretty Vernon BC Canada www.icefarm.com
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On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 19:51:05 -0600, you wrote: >OMGosh...that was one of the things we hated about KY. Everyone >smoked...everywhere. It drove us crazy!! It;s great here, smoking is completely banned inside in any public place. Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk ---
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> I'm an ex-smoker so I'm the worst sort. I actually have an alergy to it now. Me too Wanda, MN just went smoke free, state wide, I LOVE IT.. but I don't want to stay living here... but love so much about this state... to bad it is so COLD... Debbie -- I and my horses love our track system, take a look~~~ http://picasaweb.google.com/dakota.charm/TrackForHorses
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On 09/12/2007, Raven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> but hate smoke, so I don't think I would do that in KY. > > OMGosh...that was one of the things we hated about KY. Everyone > smoked...everywhere. It drove us crazy!! We have a provincial bylaw that basically states our province is smoke free. I think Alberta is that way now too. I remember going out for dinner a few years ago in Alberta and someone at the next table lit a smoke and it shocked me. Saskatchewan has been smoke free for years. I'm an ex-smoker so I'm the worst sort. I actually have an alergy to it now. Wanda
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>> but hate smoke, so I don't think I would do that in KY. OMGosh...that was one of the things we hated about KY. Everyone smoked...everywhere. It drove us crazy!! Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
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>> We get ICE here, and snow, that does not melt for 6 months... I am so tired of it I HATE WINTER >> do try to camp with Raven, she gets me OUT OF THE HOUSE at least a couple times a year, or she comes here... I have a truck and trailer so am mobile I would DIE.if I was a homebody like you. It would drive me crazy! HAHA! I love to camp. Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
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>> You lived in Shelbyville, KY? When was that? HelloI lived there the first six months of 1999. My husband's company transfered him to Louisville to help set up their new warehouse. While we looked for a house to buy, we boarded my three horses at Foxrun Farm (off Pickets Dam Rd) which is also home to Superior Turf Farm. Foxrun Farm is a saddlebred farm, in fact Monica used my TWH gelding Wizard to tease her mare before presenting them to her stallion. We love her farm...our horses received the best of care and the farm is beautiful. We even met William Shatner and his wife Nerine. She was very pretty. Are you near Shelbyville? It's sure is a beautiful area thereloved all the windy roads. But, KY was just not our cup of tea.So, we requested a transfer back to MN. Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
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Thank you! You do this so well. I am wondering about the drop-off. Was that on the neighbors (the Jarboes) place - the ones who have the dressage place? Oh, man, Anneliese, you're asking ME? I never know where the heck we are when we go riding with you! All I know is that we're in the woods, somewhere in KY. I'm trying to remember when that time was. The first time, I rode Sina, so I'm thinking it was the second time we visited you - which probably was when we picked up Melnir - May 2004, I think? Cary remembers that spot - he's mentioned it too, for what it's worth. BTW, I should probably clarify that I have NO vested interest in the sale of this property whatsoever. I'm not a realtor, nor do I play one on the internet - I just think someone would love to be Anneliese's riding buddy - too bad it's not going to be me anytime soon... Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.17/1178 - Release Date: 12/8/2007 11:59 AM IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses "The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic." "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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On 12/9/07 8:04 PM, "Debbie K." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We are a year and a half away from moving... so don't get to excited, > I have to do lots of research, I put the temps on my Yahoo site, so > will be keeping track of Danville... what small town are you in? Not in any town, near Moreland but in the middle of nowhere. Anneliese
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It sounds like what I ride on here... but only from May to November...which is exactly what I am looking for... Heaven -- I and my horses love our track system, take a look~~~ http://picasaweb.google.com/dakota.charm/TrackForHorses
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We are a year and a half away from moving... so don't get to excited, I have to do lots of research, I put the temps on my Yahoo site, so will be keeping track of Danville... what small town are you in? -- I and my horses love our track system, take a look~~~ http://picasaweb.google.com/dakota.charm/TrackForHorses
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These may not exactly be Man From Snowy River trails, but they aren't > easy/beginner trails either. Oh, I guess some places are pretty easy, but > there are some pretty darned steep climbs on some of them. The elevation > isn't nearly as high as, say, the Appalachians, but some grades are still > fairly steep. I remember one trail where we had to walk beside a drop into > a creek, with a fence on the other side - I'm pretty sure we didn't have > more than 3-4 feet of trail. Sure, it wasn't exactly a Grand Canyon drop, > but maybe - what, Anneliese? 10 feet? More than I'd want to fall anyway! > (for some reason, I actually enjoyed that part - probably because I was > riding Anneliese's dear old Venus, whom she sadly lost a couple of years > ago.) > Karen Thomas, NC Hi Karen: Thank you! You do this so well. I am wondering about the drop-off. Was that on the neighbors (the Jarboes) place - the ones who have the dressage place? There is a washout just as you come through the gate. We actually used to ride the horses through bottom of the gully when the gate was closed. They never close that gate anymore and their horses never go into the woods. That is something I don't understand. If that were our horses, they'd be all over the woods, exploring. On our place I find horse poop in the most inaccessible places, they go everywhere. But their horses are most quarter horses; maybe they are afraid to go into the woods alone. Anneliese
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Karen, tell Debbie! Yes, ma'am... :) There is no shortage of trails to ride from Anneliese's farm. I remember one day we rode for 3-4 hours in the morning, came back in for Anneliese's yummy soup for lunch, and we went back out for another 2-3 hours that afternoon - not riding the same trails. I don't think we've ever ridden a fraction of the trails...and if we ever did ride them all, Anneliese would just take us off-trail, riding through the woods...oh, wait, I think we did that last time! That was fun - at least until my hip cramped up and I had to get off and walk a while. I was riding Melnir's lovely sister Vinda that time. (We jumped a log on the off-trail - that was fun.) These may not exactly be Man From Snowy River trails, but they aren't easy/beginner trails either. Oh, I guess some places are pretty easy, but there are some pretty darned steep climbs on some of them. The elevation isn't nearly as high as, say, the Appalachians, but some grades are still fairly steep. I remember one trail where we had to walk beside a drop into a creek, with a fence on the other side - I'm pretty sure we didn't have more than 3-4 feet of trail. Sure, it wasn't exactly a Grand Canyon drop, but maybe - what, Anneliese? 10 feet? More than I'd want to fall anyway! (for some reason, I actually enjoyed that part - probably because I was riding Anneliese's dear old Venus, whom she sadly lost a couple of years ago.) I've taken a few pictures of the trails in the past, but most are wooded, so the pictures never came out very good. Trust me, though - they are fun trail to ride. We've ridden with her in April, May, late October and late November - always cool, but always nice. Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.17/1178 - Release Date: 12/8/2007 11:59 AM IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses "The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic." "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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On 12/9/07 5:51 PM, "Debbie K." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > we have a few rattlers in our area too, I have never seen one near the > house or riding, I have seen them when biking years ago.. so, I could > live with that, and you say the deer are prevelant, Dan loves to deer > hunt... We see deer nearly every day. After we planted new grass around the new house I actually shooed them away and even then they came right back. Once hunting season starts they seem to be a little more skittish but they settle right back down afterwards. Anneliese
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On 12/9/07 5:50 PM, "Debbie K." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here is the deal with teachers, we have to be licenced in the state we > teach and not all states except the license from another state... I > would have to look into it... My biggest thing is I want to be able to > ride out my door on land... I am fine if it is a neighborhood land > like I Have now, or land that is public, but I want to be able to > saddle up from home and ride... Not being a teacher type myself (I admire them though) I would not know anything about that. But we don't have to trailer. We have plenty of land to ride on, we are also sharing trails with adjoining neighbors and other neighbors across the road. Anyway, there is PLENTY of land to ride on, please believe me. It is in private ownership but permission is freely given. And it is all in the woods. Karen, tell Debbie! Anneliese -- Anneliese Virro UNICORN VALLEY ICELANDICS 1800 Carter School Road Stanford, Kentucky 40484 606-346-4963 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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we have a few rattlers in our area too, I have never seen one near the house or riding, I have seen them when biking years ago.. so, I could live with that, and you say the deer are prevelant, Dan loves to deer hunt... I and my horses love our track system, take a look~~~ http://picasaweb.google.com/dakota.charm/TrackForHorses
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Here is the deal with teachers, we have to be licenced in the state we teach and not all states except the license from another state... I would have to look into it... My biggest thing is I want to be able to ride out my door on land... I am fine if it is a neighborhood land like I Have now, or land that is public, but I want to be able to saddle up from home and ride... -- I and my horses love our track system, take a look~~~ http://picasaweb.google.com/dakota.charm/TrackForHorses
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On 12/9/07 4:48 PM, "Debbie K." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dan is an RV Service Tech with TONS of experience... and I have been a > Substitute teacher for years... I can also wait tables or bartend, but > hate smoke, so I don't think I would do that in KY... Can't teachers find jobs just about anywhere? And there is an RV store in Danville. Of course I would nail down a job before buying a place or moving. But our weather definitely beats yours. I hate snow, always have. We used to have terrible snow storms in Evanston when Olaf (husband) was running around somewhere in South Africa, Japan, or Australia; and I would have to shovel our 150- foot driveway plus the side walk all by myself. Makes you tough though. Anneliese -- Anneliese Virro UNICORN VALLEY ICELANDICS 1800 Carter School Road Stanford, Kentucky 40484 606-346-4963 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Dan is an RV Service Tech with TONS of experience... and I have been a Substitute teacher for years... I can also wait tables or bartend, but hate smoke, so I don't think I would do that in KY... -- I and my horses love our track system, take a look~~~ http://picasaweb.google.com/dakota.charm/TrackForHorses
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On 12/9/07 4:07 PM, "Debbie K." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am not a snake fan, the poisonous ones scare me.. the others I think > are cute Dan and I don't camp much, I am such a homebody, but we > do RIDE A TON, on trails just 3 miles from our house.. my friend has > 365 acres, we help keep the trails open, and make new ones... I have 3 > planned now... these are little deer trails, they have trucksters, so > have wide trails for them, which are great fun through the hills, > valleys, meadows and water crossings, however I still like the narrow By the way, we don't have a lot of snakes here. Mostly black snakes (which are harmless) and garter snakes. With the exploding deer population, poisonous snakes have virtually disappeared. It is a little know fact that deer will murder snakes with their front hooves. In the thirty years we have had this place I have seen one rattle snake and we ate that one. You can grill it, it's delicious. Old timers told us that there were rattle snakes here but I think they are all gone now. Anneliese
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> I do try to camp with Raven, she gets me OUT OF THE HOUSE at least a > couple times a year, or she comes here... I have a truck and trailer > so am mobile > > We keep looking at the Black Hills of SD.. but jobs are hard to come by > there.. Debbie: What kind of jobs would you need? Here in KY good jobs used to hard to come by by that too is changing. Anneliese
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We get ICE here, and snow, that does not melt for 6 months... I am so tired of it... I really need to move where we can work and where we can ride year round, I suspect we will stay here through this winter and the next, then we will move on... but I have not figured out where yet, mean while we keep working on the house, today I am high from sealing the grout lines on that stick down tiles... it is pretty, but man do I have a headache... I am not a snake fan, the poisonous ones scare me.. the others I think are cute Dan and I don't camp much, I am such a homebody, but we do RIDE A TON, on trails just 3 miles from our house.. my friend has 365 acres, we help keep the trails open, and make new ones... I have 3 planned now... these are little deer trails, they have trucksters, so have wide trails for them, which are great fun through the hills, valleys, meadows and water crossings, however I still like the narrow ones the best... I do try to camp with Raven, she gets me OUT OF THE HOUSE at least a couple times a year, or she comes here... I have a truck and trailer so am mobile We keep looking at the Black Hills of SD.. but jobs are hard to come by there.. I and my horses love our track system, take a look~~~ http://picasaweb.google.com/dakota.charm/TrackForHorses
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On 12/9/07 1:12 PM, "Raven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> in KY? Or Can you ride/camp year round??? > > when i lived in shelbyville...the humidity started in late march. > during the winter...there was ice. in fact, school was school off & on > for over 2 weeks straight ..due to ice. > Raven You lived in Shelbyville, KY? When was that? We had an ice storm here either in 1992 or 1993. Ice covered tree limbs and made them so heavy they broke. I am told that it sounded as if there was a shooting war going on. (We were not here because until now we used to spend winters in Evanston.) There is a radio tower on our property. During that ice-storm ice formed around every piece of it and made it so heavy that it collapsed into itself. Unfortunately it was rebuilt right away. But this is something that does not happen every year. We also have snow now and then but it always melts in a day or so. And yes, we can ride year round. I wouldn't know about camping - we live out in nature so we don't need to do that. Anneliese
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>> in KY? Or Can you ride/camp year round??? when i lived in shelbyville...the humidity started in late march. during the winter...there was ice. in fact, school was school off & on for over 2 weeks straight ..due to ice. Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
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It sure is pretty, But, I don't have Icy's... I love them though, does that count? Is there an RV dealer in the area? I have a MN teaching License, and what I am finding, is that in some states I have to go back to school and take tests, ya know, I felt like we are in 50 countries, not 50 states when I research some of the rules for teachers... Very strange if you ask me... I am simply tired of the very COLD witners and the HIGH humidity in the summer, the only time to ride in Spring and fall, is it the same in KY? Or Can you ride/camp year round??? -- I and my horses love our track system, take a look~~~ http://picasaweb.google.com/dakota.charm/TrackForHorses
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On 12/9/07 4:51 AM, "Mic Rushen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 18:44:08 -0500, you wrote: > >> hanging on to it until the right people come alon is what it takes, that is >> what we will d > > Do you get lots of rain and wind in KY? > ; ) Not really. We do get extreme weather, after all we do have a continental climate that is totally unlike what you get in England. You have the Gulf Stream to even things out. We get the occasional rain storm but not too often. But there is a lot of difference between daytime and nighttime temperatures. For instance, no matter how hot it is during the day, it always cools down to about 70 degrees Fahrenheit in the evening, even lower of top of the hill. Then in the winter, we can have subfreezing temperatures during the night and going to to as much as the 70's during the day if the sun is out. Anyone interested in moving here should chart the ten-day forecast for Hustonville, KY for a while. Subtract a few degrees for the highs for the hill top in the summer and add a few for the lows in the winter; for the valley (where we are) the reverse. Anneliese
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Do you get lots of rain and wind in KY? ; ) According to Anneliese, mainly when Cary and I visit the state! We've visited Anneliese four times, and it's rained every time. Seriously, I think the weather is quite similar to that in NC, but probably averaging at least 5 degrees cooler. Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.17/1178 - Release Date: 12/8/2007 11:59 AM IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses "The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic." "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 18:44:08 -0500, you wrote: >hanging on to it until the right people come alon is what it takes, that is >what we will d Do you get lots of rain and wind in KY? ; ) Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk ---
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On 12/8/07 4:39 PM, "Ann Cassidy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Santa Rosa southwest. JUST REDUCED Beautiful 3.67 acres. Outstanding > views, perfect for horses ,2bd/1ba home is a fixer. Own your own > dream! $500,000 > > Ann > Bodega CA You know, Kentucky is one of the best-kept real estate secrets where land is still affordable while beautiful at the same time. If no one wants to buy the place we will buy it ourselves even though don't need more land. I want someone with Icelandics to live there and if buying the place ourselves and hanging on to it until the right people come alon is what it takes, that is what we will do. Annliese
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> Cary and I looked at a farm for sale that almost > adjoins Anneliese's Unicorn > Valley last month. Seriously, it's one of the > prettiest pieces of property You don't have to sell me. I love it there. It would take many wild horses to get Kevin to move there. We have relatives near Lexington. Lorraine Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
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And for the other extreme, this was listed today in the paper under the showcase of homes, not even a desirable area and flat: Santa Rosa southwest. JUST REDUCED Beautiful 3.67 acres. Outstanding views, perfect for horses ,2bd/1ba home is a fixer. Own your own dream! $500,000 Ann Bodega CA
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We used to joke about a bulldozer having been a better choice than remodeling, but the old house has a certain charm that would be difficult to achieve in a newer one. Nancy
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Oh man - I wish! What a beautiful wonderful little farm. The house looke a lot like this house did when we moved into it in 1963. It still has log stringers under the main part of the house instead of a foundation. Then I understand why you picked that place. I walked into that little house, and instantly saw how it would look remodeled, down to the colors in the kitchen, and how I'd redo the windows on the south-facing side to maximize that amazing view from the den. I saw how I'd preserve certain of the interior wood beaded board walls, but also ways to add the insulation that would be needed. Funny, I can't visualize stuff about how to ride, but I can visualize the "after" of a potential remodeling job easily. I know some people would want to bulldoze that house and start over, but not me. That's what would drive me nuts - not being close enough to go ahead and remodel it, and afraid that at least seven years of neglect (until Cary retires) might do it in. If we were closer, or if we were closer to retirement age, I think we would have gone for it, but it's just a little too much of a stretch both ways. Actually, we love it where we are, but suburbia is fast encroaching, and I can't imagine what it will be like here in another ten years... This is home, but I think we could make that part of KY home too. Oh...if anyone is wondering...the kitchen should be yellow, with blue accents, with the old linoleum pulled up and the pine floors finished a light, natural color. Oak, cream or white cabinets - either would work. I've already seen it! Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.17/1177 - Release Date: 12/7/2007 1:11 PM
RE: [IceHorses] Lovely farm for Sale in KY - 80+ acres near Anneliese - VERY reasonable
>>> You should be a real estate agent - you paint a very appealing picture of the place. I can be pretty convincing when I believe in something, but unfortunately, from a sales career perspective, I can't be convincing worth a crap if I try to lie. :) That description was heartfelt. We really do love that farm. It's truly a beautiful property that Cary and I both love. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.17/1177 - Release Date: 12/7/2007 1:11 PM IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses "The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic." "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [IceHorses] Lovely farm for Sale in KY - 80+ acres near Anneliese - VERY reasonable
Oh man - I wish! What a beautiful wonderful little farm. The house looke a lot like this house did when we moved into it in 1963. It still has log stringers under the main part of the house instead of a foundation. I can't even imagine moving kids, dogs and horses completely across the country. Nancy
RE: [IceHorses] Lovely farm for Sale in KY - 80+ acres near Anneliese - VERY reasonable
Hi Karen >>>Cary and I looked at a farm for sale that almost adjoins Anneliese's Unicorn Valley last month. Seriously, it's one of the prettiest pieces of property I've ever seen in my entire life, anywhere. You should be a real estate agent - you paint a very appealing picture of the place. Robyn Icelandic Horse Farm Robyn Hood & Phil Pretty Vernon BC Canada www.icefarm.com
Re: [IceHorses] Lovely farm for Sale in KY - 80+ acres near Anneliese - VERY reasonable
Karen: Thank you! This an incredible description. I could, try as I might, not have gotten that much detail. It is quite correct. The only thing I want to add is that Centre College (supposedly a very good college) is located in the middle of Danville. College towns have a special charm in my opinion. Also the library, very good to start with, is currently building an addition. Yes, do ask me questions if interested. Anneliese
RE: [IceHorses] Lovely farm for Sale in KY - 80+ acres near Anneliese - VERY reasonable
http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=4jh0nhxz.b6g32s4n&x=0&y=-gv9zn3 If you look at the pictures, be sure to notice that there are two albumns in this gallery for a total of about 140 pictures. Part were taken last month, and some in April, just before the leaves came out on the trees. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.17/1177 - Release Date: 12/7/2007 1:11 PM
[IceHorses] Lovely farm for Sale in KY - 80+ acres near Anneliese - VERY reasonable
Cary and I looked at a farm for sale that almost adjoins Anneliese's Unicorn Valley last month. Seriously, it's one of the prettiest pieces of property I've ever seen in my entire life, anywhere. It's about 80-85 acres that sits on top of a ridge - I think they say it's the highest point in KY west of the Appalachians. There is a view that goes on for miles in every direction from the old farmhouse. In NC, it would go for many times what they are asking for it. We've debated and beat it to death, and as much as we love it, I think we're going to pass. I'm afraid trying to manage a second farm an eight-hour drive away would make us nutty, and Cary is at least seven years from retiring.I think they were originally asking $210,000 for it, but I believe they have reduced the price - Anneliese can fill in the blanks there. Here are some pictures: http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=4jh0nhxz.b6g32s4n&x=0&y=-gv9zn3 Here are some details: 1. The land is very hilly in the area, but this piece sits atop of the "knobs" - a regional term for a tiny mountain/big hill. The land at the top of the knob, where the house and barn sit, is actually only "rolling", so you could find a flat spot for a round-pen and/or small arena, or make one without a lot of work. Some hill property doesn't have that luxury. 2. The house is old, and very Spartan...but the old couple lived in it until her death a year or so ago, and his death back in April. I'd call it "marginally livable" as it stands, but it does need work., to be comfortably livable. Depending on what you wanted to do with it, it MIGHT be remodel-able into an adorable "country cottage" type vacation or retirement home. (I have a good bit of imagination about that sort of thing though, and I'm sure some people would see it only as a shack.) At minimum, I'd think it could be converted into an office/studio/guest house, or could be lived in until you could build a new house. The house is about 1300-1400 square feet, with five rooms that would probably equate to a kitchen/breakfast combination, a den, plus three bedrooms. There is one small bathroom in the house...plus a two-seater outhouse, for no waiting in line... :) (I'm not sure why the idea of a two-seater outhouse strikes me so hysterically funny...maybe because it sits on top of a ridge where the people in the next county could see you coming and going!) The house has electricity, but was always heated by a wood stove, and never had a phone installed. As I said, it's Spartan, but very quaint and somehow very appealing to me. BUT, it would be a "project" and I think trying to manage such a project from 450 miles away would make me crazy. When I do something like that, I "have" to be very hands on. 3. The house has some spots that would need serious attention, such as some rotted windowsills. However, best we could tell, the house itself is quite solid...but then, we didn't get far enough along to have it inspected either. 4. The house has a cistern for water supply, and there is a well on the property too. We never checked into the condition of either, although both obviously had water, even in this year's drought. The two ponds also had water in them. 5. There is a big old tobacco barn on the place - the main part is probably about 50x50 feet or so. It also has a tobacco stripping room on the side that would make a huge tack room/feed room There is also a couple of stalls behind the stripping room, in addition to the main part of the barn. The main part of the barn is fairly open - and if I were to buy it, I'd probably try to put a loft above for hay storage, and use the main floor as a small indoor arena. Tobacco barns have slatted siding to allow good ventilation for the tobacco to dry, so the barn would need to have siding put up, at least on the lower level, to protect you from the winter winds. So, it would take a little work to fix up, but I'd think it would be MUCH less expensive than building a new barn. 6. There are a couple of other old buildings on the property - an old garage, and an old chicken house, I think. 7. Some of the land is very steep - but it makes for pretty trail riding. 8. There are two ponds on the property. Down the hill to the south of the barn, there is a pond with a natural rock wall behind it. It is a gorgeous and private little spot...that just screamed out to me for a picnic table or gazebo, a mint julep and a good book. :) (Gotta have mint juleps in KY - I think it's the law!) 9. Anneliese and Olaf have over 300 acres a short ride down the road, with many trails, and apparently they have agreements with neighbors to share trails. The trails are gorgeous and not at all boring. You can literally ride for hours without putting your horses in a trailer assuming you could get the same permissions that Anneliese and Olaf have. 10. From the top of the ridge where the property is situated, you can literally see for miles... and miles. The fall foliage
