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> Seriously, if you know you will be away for more than 7-14 days at a time, > several weeks a year - well, that might mean that a parrot isn't the best > pet for you. Unless you want to buy an RV, so they can always be with you > in a climate-controlled environment! (Seriously, Cary thinks we'll do that > someday...but an RV that will pull a 24-horse-trailer...? I think we'll > need our own private rail-line!) > > > Karen Thomas > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Karen: That is what I was afraid of. So the caretaker would have to be available before we can get a parrot because we do have to go abroad (at least to Estonia) at least once or twice a year. Oh well. Anneliese
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No, although I have always that's how they do it at the track. Every time he stretched to pee, I said "Go potty Hunter". And treated him when he performed. He now pee's several times each time I go to catch him. I have to hold back treats for the later performances. Of course this does beg the question concerning who has trained who. I'm sure Hunter stands around in the afternoon claiming he has taught me to provide goodies just by peeing. Nancy
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The cue for my dogs is the same as yours:"Go Poopy"...for my birds it's "Bombs Away" or "Fire in the hole"...I think you can indeed train older birds...I can't remember how old Hoover is, but Charlie learned at 35 years old...she didn't have any potty training at all before that. Hoover was not young when we had our little breakthrough with him - he was a wild-caught bird who lived with another family until we got him. I think he was 10-12-ish when we got him. Any doubts I have would be related to the particulars of any given bird, not particularly age related. Mainly, I didn't want to give the impression that ALL birds can be potty trained. Maybe they can, but I don't want to mislead people about the mess. Parrots are wonderful - but they do come with some side "benefits" people should be aware of! Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1136 - Release Date: 11/17/2007 2:55 PM IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses "The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic." "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Nancy~ did you train Hunter by whistling? Mary
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Hunter, a horse, urinates on command. It's a great "trick" for an endurance horse to know. Nancy
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The cue for my dogs is the same as yours:"Go Poopy"...for my birds it's "Bombs Away" or "Fire in the hole"...I think you can indeed train older birds...I can't remember how old Hoover is, but Charlie learned at 35 years old...she didn't have any potty training at all before that. Mary
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On 18/11/2007, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We do have some accidents along - best not get a bird if you can't take > that! > Karen Thomas, NC I had a pet sparrow as a kid, and when I think back on it now I don't recall her making a mess anywhere. Her cage door was mostly open, and I think she flew in there to do her business. I remember a few accidents here and there, but it never seemed to be a problem. She was a smart little thing. One of her jobs was to wake me up for school in the morning. She would fly into my bedroom (she would roost in her cage at night)and wake me up when she thought I should be getting out of bed. Unfortunately she didn't realize when it was Saturday or Sundaybut maybe that's why I'm an early riser to this day. Wanda
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On Nov 18, 2007 8:51 AM, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After 12 years, he still hasn't given up hope - what an > optimist. She probably loves him in her own way. V
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Dumb question time...don't birds poop all over the place? V Not dumb at all. They have a fast metabolism, meaning it happens about every 20-30 minutes or so. Hoover and my Gray know the verbal command, "Go poopy," so we simply hold them over a paper towel periodically. I'm not sure all birds will learn it. Actually, I first taught her, then one day in the car, Hoover was imitating every move she made. (Background - she's the only female I have, and Hoover has been in love with her since the first day we got him. Poor Hoover. The feeling is NOT mutual.) So, on a hunch, right after she "went", I switched birds, held him over the paper towel, and said, "Go poopy." Ah, what Hoover is motivated to learn in the name of love It worked. Well, at least as far as the potty training. It didn't seem to win him any points in love unfortunately. He still gets on her nerves. Mostly, she ignores him, but if he gets too close, she'll say, "Qu-it!" (with two-syllables for emphasis), or, "NO!", or (my favorite), "STUPID BIRD!" After 12 years, he still hasn't given up hope - what an optimist. We do have some accidents along - best not get a bird if you can't take that! Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1136 - Release Date: 11/17/2007 2:55 PM
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On Nov 17, 2007 1:29 PM, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hoover LOVES to ride on Cary's shoulder in the car - Dumb question time...don't birds poop all over the place? V
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What do you do with a parrot if you have to be gone for a month? I'd love to take a rescue parrot once we are in the new house and once I have educated myself about their needs, but the absence question must be answered first. That's a big issue, Anneliese. There are several options, and you have to be careful with any of them. In many cases, you can take them with you when you travel. We've packed up four birds for a week at the beach about 10-12 times over the years. Hoover LOVES to ride on Cary's shoulder in the car - we just have small cages that we can quickly put them in handy for when we need a bathroom break or whatever. It's not the easiest thing to do, but you can do it. Obviously, that won't work at all for out of the country travel, since you have to consider quarantine issues. There are places that board birds, but not so many, and you have to be very careful that they are good with isolating your birds from others - parrots can be very sick before they show any signs, so exposure is a concern. The few times we've had to board ours, we've left them with the avian vet. Emily used to work for him, so she knows how picky he is on such issues. The most realistic option for most people is to have a live-in house-sitter while you're gone, or have a pet sitter come in to care for them, but they need to be fed at least daily, if not more often. And, if you have only one bird, you have to worry about the lack of companionship while you're gone. Since we have four parrots, that's not the biggest concern for us, but it can be devastating for a single bird, or for a bird that is seriously bonded to a single person. Seriously, if you know you will be away for more than 7-14 days at a time, several weeks a year - well, that might mean that a parrot isn't the best pet for you. Unless you want to buy an RV, so they can always be with you in a climate-controlled environment! (Seriously, Cary thinks we'll do that someday...but an RV that will pull a 24-horse-trailer...? I think we'll need our own private rail-line!) Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1135 - Release Date: 11/16/2007 10:58 PM IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses "The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic." "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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> Please, get a rescue parrot, rather than support the parrot trade. > > > I had to make the decision to not take in any more rescue parrots. I haven't > taken in a rescue parrot in many many years yet I'm still regularly asked to > take them. > > Cheryl Cheryl: What do you do with a parrot if you have to be gone for a month? I'd love to take a rescue parrot once we are in the new house and once I have educated myself about their needs, but the absence question must be answered first. Anneliese
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On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:21:36 -0500, you wrote: >they require >a lot of intensive care, I cook for mine:) Reading that quickly, I saw "I cook mine" Ha! That'll teach the bugger not to peck! Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk --- "Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes"
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On 11/13/07, IceDog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > IMHO parrots don't belong as pets. We can rarely meet their needs for their > entire lives. Nice parrots are always looking for new homes. > They aren't the easiest pets, I really don't encourage people. I've had my Grey for 17 years now, since he was 3 months old. He is very intelligent, sensitive, entertaining...I've also taken some pretty hard bites, attacks from him, I have the scars to prove it, I was really surprised he didn't sever the ligament in the palm of my hand once, we went through a couple of bad years, he hasn't really bitten me for some time now, but you never know. They are wild animals, and they never stop being wild, even if they are gentled. I raised him and can handle him all over, have been able to hold him on his back in my hand, but still something comes out in them sometimes and they require a lot of intensive care, I cook for mine:) Kim
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> Parrots are often like many horses--- there are lots of older ones > needing good homes. SO many people will buy a nice parrot because it > talks and its charming, not knowing anything about them, but then get > them home and soon grow weary when they find they are loud and messy. I agree Janice. Please guys if you want a parrot-- find one in need of a new home. IMHO parrots don't belong as pets. We can rarely meet their needs for their entire lives. Nice parrots are always looking for new homes. Please, get a rescue parrot, rather than support the parrot trade. We have 4 parrots, three of them are rescues. A Blue and Gold Macaw A Umbrella Cockatoo A Timeh Grey and a Congo Grey I've also rescued and rehomed several other parrots. I had to make the decision to not take in any more rescue parrots. I haven't taken in a rescue parrot in many many years yet I'm still regularly asked to take them. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
