Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Rocky Mountain Horse
> I should send you all a video some time of my offtrack Standardbred. > in harness he never does anything other than hard pace. That would be neat to have a video of that. Also, we need more video of horses moving directly towards the camera to evaluate the legs and movement (any breed will do); can anyone get some video for us? Thanks! Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Rocky Mountain Horse
I would say that this horse is close to hard pacing with the saddle; without the saddle the timing of the laterals is broken up a little more. I should send you all a video some time of my offtrack Standardbred. He does the most awful hard pace imaginable. Although he does trot, stepping pace and canter under saddle, in harness he never does anything other than hard pace. It was really drilled into him. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Rocky Mountain Horse
>> http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/07/what-gait-rocky-mountain-horse-2.html > > A guess would be #1 flat walk and #2 stepping pace. This is what I posted about #2: "Great video! and nice job on the slo-mo! I would say that this horse is close to hard pacing with the saddle; without the saddle the timing of the laterals is broken up a little more. Notice the rider bouncing with the use of the saddle, but stiller without the saddle. I would check out saddle fit on this beautiful horse; maybe try treeless. Also check the bit fit." Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Rocky Mountain Horse
http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/07/what-gait-rocky-mountain-horse.html http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/07/what-gait-rocky-mountain-horse-2.html >> This is still so hard for me - slow learner or perhaps because I am ON >> the only gaited horses I ever get to see. A guess would be #1 flat walk >> and #2 stepping pace. I always have trouble seeing the pairing of legs on black horses, so I'm not sure about #1. I think there may be a little more diagonal than even timing, so I think maybe it's more foxwalk or slow foxtrot. I'm not going to swear though. One good clue is that there's some head nod, but you can see that in either flat walk or foxtrot/foxwalk.(You can also see a "V" head motion in a stepping pace, but this looks to me to be more of an up-and-down nod...?) I like both gaits, so I wouldn't quibble with a horse that gives me either of his own accord, especially on a loose rein. The second one I agree with you on - and I think it's a pretty pacey step-pace at that. When I see a horse pacing like that, the first thing I want to do is check his saddle fit! Anyway, I don't think you are way off base - you may well be closer than I am. Karen Thomas, NC
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Rocky Mountain Horse
2008/7/13 Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > This is still so hard for me - slow learner or perhaps because I am ON the > only gaited horses I ever get to see. It IS hard Nancy. I really have to study these things too. > A guess would be #1 flat walk and #2 stepping pace. I thought #1 started out as a flat walk, maybe transitioning into a running walk? And then into a trot.. #2 I thought was stepping pace as wellat least the first part of the video, I didn't have a chance to watch it all the way through. Wanda -- Thoughts become things...
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Rocky Mountain Horse
> Here are two different Rocky Mountain Horses; what gait(s): > > http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/07/what-gait-rocky-mountain-horse.html > > http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/07/what-gait-rocky-mountain-horse-2.html This is still so hard for me - slow learner or perhaps because I am ON the only gaited horses I ever get to see. A guess would be #1 flat walk and #2 stepping pace. Would someone please post the correct answer - it helps me to learn. Nancy
[IceHorses] What Gait / Rocky Mountain Horse
Here are two different Rocky Mountain Horses; what gait(s): http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/07/what-gait-rocky-mountain-horse.html http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/07/what-gait-rocky-mountain-horse-2.html Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Rocky Mountain Horse 2
> Here's a second video of the same horse: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WebwKlvzJLs > > What gait in this one? > Isn't it a running walk, or very, very close to a running walk? -- Renee M. in Michigan
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Rocky Mountain Horse 2
Here's a second video of the same horse: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WebwKlvzJLs What gait in this one? Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Rocky Mountain Horse
On 11/04/2008, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You are both very observant! > > Watch the difference in push-off between the left hind and the right hind. I don't know...to me it looks like his left front is off... Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Rocky Mountain Horse
I watched this video over and over. I sort of wanted to think the horse was lame. The rider is coming up off his back and his head is really bobbing, but not in a nice rhythmic way. It's either resistance or discomfort. Or maybe every time she bounces, it hurts his back and he bobs his head. I think you're onto something. Normally, when I see that much head action in a gaited horse, I first think of the bit or a pinching saddle, but since he was ridden bareback and with no bit, that can't be it. It wasn't a "head nod" that is a good thing with running walk or foxtrot - as you noted, it wasn't rhythmic. It's like what I saw in his feet wasn't the same story I saw in the rider's bouncing and in his head/body language. Maybe he's just really green, multigaited and is simply shifting gaits trying to find his balance...? It's nice to see a horse so naturally gaited, but I'd like to know more about what's going on. If he's really young and just under saddle, maybe it's not a big deal, but it sure left me with questions. If he IS that green and still finding his balance, I'd like to see more plain old regular walk before asking for gait. Karen Thomas, NC
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Rocky Mountain Horse
>> It looks like a rack (tolt), but there's something just a little >> different >> about it that I can't put my finger on. The rider also seems to be >> bouncing a bit more than usual. . . Hmmm > > I watched this video over and over. I sort of wanted to think the horse > was > lame. The rider is coming up off his back and his head is really bobbing, > but not in a nice rhythmic way. It's either resistance or discomfort. Or > maybe every time she bounces, it hurts his back and he bobs his head. You are both very observant! Watch the difference in push-off between the left hind and the right hind. He goes along just fine and level on the left push, but the right push is different and throws the momentum more upwards, which is where the rider is bouncing. Having the white line fence behind is good for relativity in the levelness. Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Rocky Mountain Horse
> Hey, did anyone else notice on the previous "what gait" horse -- an > Icelandic that foxtrotted -- that his tail undulated just like it would in > tolt? I've never seen that going on with a foxtrot before. The rack / saddle rack and fox trot are the gaits that the horse's tail waves like that. It's because of the similar hock action in the gaits. Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Rocky Mountain Horse
> It looks like a rack (tolt), but there's something just a little different > about it that I can't put my finger on. The rider also seems to be > bouncing a bit more than usual. . . Hmmm I watched this video over and over. I sort of wanted to think the horse was lame. The rider is coming up off his back and his head is really bobbing, but not in a nice rhythmic way. It's either resistance or discomfort. Or maybe every time she bounces, it hurts his back and he bobs his head. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Rocky Mountain Horse
It looks like a rack (tolt), but there's something just a little different about it that I can't put my finger on. The rider also seems to be bouncing a bit more than usual. . . Hmmm Hey, did anyone else notice on the previous "what gait" horse -- an Icelandic that foxtrotted -- that his tail undulated just like it would in tolt? I've never seen that going on with a foxtrot before. -- Renee M. in Michigan.
