RE: [IceHorses] What breed?
If you can forgive the fact that this horse is what we used to call "overbent" and was probably unhappily evading the bit, what breed do you guess? First, I am not offended by pictures that show "less than ideal" characteristics, if we note that they aren't perfect. Thanks for sending the pictures, and thanks for volunteering that all might not be perfect. Now...I hope this doesn't bother you, but I noticed the camera angle isn't exactly straight in the picture. I took the liberty of using Picassa to make the angle what I believe to be closer to straight. I'll send both in a minute, and let's see how it looks. :) Karen Thomas, NC
Re: [IceHorses] What breed?
> this horse is what we used to call > "overbent" and was probably unhappily evading the bit, Ohmigosh, what a comparison to today's standards of overbent! He looks good. Nice neck. In fact, we could use his picture, in with the neck comparison pictures. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
[IceHorses] What breed?
If you can forgive the fact that this horse is what we used to call "overbent" and was probably unhappily evading the bit, what breed do you guess? He had just won a huge hunter class on the flat and I sold him between classes. Nancy - These photos were sent using Jasc Paint Shop Photo Album software. Visit http://www.jasc.com for details. <>
Re: [IceHorses] What breed? - chestnut
My Welsh cob carried herslef a little like that when at liberty. I'm thinking Corn-on-the Cob. Nancy
RE: [IceHorses] What breed? - chestnut
> Okay. I can guess. How about quarter horse and he's twelve. Or thoroughbred? I thought the breed would be a reasonably easy guess. You're right, he's a QH, that we named Cruise Control. We bought him as a young weanling, but didn't start him until he was four...and this was before I bought my first Icelandic. We were already migrating towards starting horses at a later age here. In this picture, he's 4, I think, probably under saddle for maybe 60-ish days at this point - he might have just turned 5 in this picture. At any rate, he was young and barely "green-broke." I thought he looked a little TB-ish at that age too, but he continued to muscle up until he was seven, and he ended up looking very much the "bulldog" foundation QH that he is. I found this picture and thought it might be interesting to look at. This was probably in 2002 I think - that's my daughter up, because with a freshly broken back, no way was I going to get on a green-broke horse. (Well, not until Anneliese introduced me to Sina not much later...) I've sent a lot of pictures in of us working with my young Icelandic's this summer, but honestly, we started Cruise almost exactly the same way. It doesn't matter to me if a young horse is gaited or not...you have to get the basics done before you do anything else. Cruise was as easy to start under saddle as about any horse I've ever known. We used our "home-blend" of Parelli, other NH methods, and some good solid "classical" horsemanship too. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.6/991 - Release Date: 9/5/2007 2:55 PM
RE: [IceHorses] What breed? - chestnut
Here's another: what breed? http://www.pbase.com/image/27513663 I don't know but he's way too "green" to be overbent like that. Tsk, tsk. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.6/991 - Release Date: 9/5/2007 2:55 PM
Re: [IceHorses] What breed? - chestnut
Here's another: what breed? http://www.pbase.com/image/27513663 Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] What breed? - chestnut
I am going to guess Arabian and 20 years old... ;-) just to say "something". This horse looks alot like the one that I ride for my riding lessons that is 1/2 Arab. Pat G.
Re: [IceHorses] What breed? - chestnut
Okay. I can guess. How about quarter horse and he's twelve. Or thoroughbred? Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] What breed, cremello?
On 09/07/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anyone want to take a guess on the breed? > > Karen Thomas, NC I don't know, but is that a bit of a goose rump I see?? AND I like the riders shoes/boots...I want a pair. Wanda
RE: [IceHorses] What breed, cremello?
>>>I don't know, but is that a bit of a goose rump I see?? I'm not so sure about that - maybe, but he was being sort of fidgety. He is (was? -I've lost track of him now) a stallion and it was breeding season, so he was looking for a little company... He's a young breeding stock Paint stallion, maybe four years old in that picture. (That will really play mind games with Bia!) Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.2/891 - Release Date: 7/8/2007 6:32 PM
Re: [IceHorses] what breed? - gaited pony in WI
He's very cute! Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn, the American Ice Pony Dixie Chick, the Barn Goddess Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
RE: [IceHorses] What breed, what age, Mac?
Nice pic, handsome boy. Kind of a big head, a bit heavy body-some sort of warmblood? He's a little heavy right now, even if he does look muscular.And the big head is probably more from my poor camera angles - his head is actually pretty. (He's not for sale, btw.) I've always thought he looks a little Thoroughbred-ish, but probably less so since he's been in a lush pasture for three years - thus I guess I can see where you thought Warmblood. Mac is a 15.2H, 18-year-old off-the-track Standardbred pacer. He raced (pacing) until what I believe was the age limit for Standardbreds, 15. To make his story more interesting, he was a cryprtorchid stallion, never breeding, but not gelded until he retired three years ago. (If you remember the articles on cryptorchidism, I sent recently, the condition is more common in Standardbreds than in many breeds.) I first met him just a couple of months after he was gelded, when my local trainer got him in via one of the ex-racehorse placement programs to saddle break him. He won something like $250,000 in his career - not a huge fortune, but enough to keep them racing him. His racing owners paid for his saddle training and genuinely seemed determined to find him a good retirement home. His natural gaitedness? I watched as he went under saddle from the very start, with no pressure, no preconceptions as to what gait/gaits he'd do. He was completely been-there, done-that with everything groundwork wise, and he knew bits and harness, so she rode him much earlier than she would have with most horses. After a few days of walk-only, she asked him for a little speed - a nice running walk. With more encouragement, he'd break into trot. I'd definitely call him "five-gaited" in the Icelandic sense, although multi-gaited is no doubt more accurate. She started several Standarbreds under this program, but Mac was the easiest of the easy. After she had him 2-3 months (and we were both looking for the right home for him) a couple who are friends of ours took him, when they finally got the farm they'd always wanted. They bought a young QH from me, and Mac went to be his buddy. The 50-ish woman of the couple was totally new to riding, and she fell in love with my QH. Her husband had owned horses as a kid - oddly enough, his favorite was also a bay Standardbred. They made contact with Mac's original owners, who came to meet them, and helped them find a harness and cart for him. So, Mac is a retired pacer, who is now lightly driven and lightly ridden. The grandkids enjoy both of these horses. To me, this horse doesn't look like a gaited horse, but I think most of our eyes are trained to look for the wrong traits - I know mine have been. I rode him out once with my 13.0H chubby/chunky Sina a few times - and oddly their gaitedness is quite similar. When we marked his rear and back angles, we were surprised to see that hers and his were pretty similar, despite initial appearances... So, this thread probably wasn't as off-topic as it first appeared. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [IceHorses] What breed, what age, Mac?
On 5/26/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is another Mac I know, not my chestnut TWH. Anyone want to guess his > breed, age, and/or history? Nice pic, handsome boy. Kind of a big head, a bit heavy body--some sort of warmblood? Robyn
Re: [IceHorses] What breed, what age, Mac?
He resembles my off-track Standardbred, so I'll go way out on a limb and make that my guess. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] What breed - chestnut daughter of buckskin
> Both are foundation Saddlebreds, double-registered as American Warmbloods. > I never really cared for Saddlebreds before, but those are two darned nice > mares - and not high-strung at all. gosh, I never would have guessed that! Bia
RE: [IceHorses] What breed - chestnut daughter of buckskin
alright already...what is she :) Both are foundation Saddlebreds, double-registered as American Warmbloods. I never really cared for Saddlebreds before, but those are two darned nice mares - and not high-strung at all. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [IceHorses] What breed - chestnut daughter of buckskin
alright already...what is she :) "By endurance we conquer" - Earnest Shackleton
RE: [IceHorses] What breed - chestnut daughter of buckskin
>>> is it one of those Marchador horses? They are as wide as quarter horses and carry the 4 beat gaits as well. Never seen any around here but I hear some are in Texas and California. No, they are registered Saddlebreds. I had never seen such stocky, QH-ish Saddlebreds - and they are double registered as American Warmbloods. I'm used to seeing the leggy, swan-necked show Saddlebreds. The owner said the buckskin had never shown any signs of gaitedness, so she's 3-gaited, but the younger mare, the chestnut, seems to have a flat walk, so maybe something else. The buckskin has done a few endurance rides, and has been a broodmare the past couple of years. The chestnut is for sale, as is the liver chestnut roan Arab x App. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [IceHorses] What breed - chestnut daughter of buckskin
On 5/17/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> she could be peruvian paso if stocky. Janice > > No, she's not a paso, of either flavor. Here's a picture of her 7 y.o. > daughter - the buckskin mare is about 10. > > I was surprised to learn what breed they are - I assumed they were QH's, but > they aren't. > > Karen Thomas, NC > in these pics they look very arabian. janice -- yipie tie yie yo
RE: [IceHorses] What breed - chestnut daughter of buckskin
is it one of those Marchador horses? They are as wide as quarter horses and carry the 4 beat gaits as well. Never seen any around here but I hear some are in Texas and California. I think they are from Columbia, South Am. ???Jeannette
Re: [IceHorses] What breed - buckskin/dun mare
I am probably way off base, but I think she is Arab. Pat G.
Re: [IceHorses] What breed, buckskin/dun mare
On 5/17/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> She reminds me of the QH/Fjord I have out in my pasture at the moment. > > She did me too - but she's not either one... she could be peruvian paso if stocky. Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
RE: [IceHorses] What breed - buckskin/dun mare
>>> She is definitely a Too-Long-Hoof Horse. Yeah, I noticed that too. I don't know the history of the horse, but the owner volunteered that the horse was way past due for a trim, and that the farrier is coming soon. She seemed sound though, just not being actively ridden at the moment. Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.0/801 - Release Date: 5/12/2007 6:40 PM
RE: [IceHorses] What breed, buckskin/dun mare
>>> She reminds me of the QH/Fjord I have out in my pasture at the moment. She did me too - but she's not either one... Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.0/801 - Release Date: 5/12/2007 6:40 PM
Re: [IceHorses] What breed, roan mare
On 16/05/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any guesses on the Buckskin? She's not related to the roan. She reminds me of the QH/Fjord I have out in my pasture at the moment. Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] What breed - buckskin/dun mare
> She is definitely a Too-Long-Hoof Horse. That's a french breed you know. Actually spelled "Touloung Aahf." ;P Robyn
Re: [IceHorses] What breed - buckskin/dun mare
On 5/16/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I didn't get the best angled shots for conformation analysis, but what > breed/breeds do you think this stocky mare is? She's a little overweight, > but even if she lost a few, she'd still be pretty stocky. Hint: I think > she's probably 15.2-ish H. > > Karen Thomas, NC She is definitely a Too-Long-Hoof Horse. Robyn
RE: [IceHorses] What breed, roan mare
>>> hmmm, distinct withers. a straight nose, something spanish I think? mustang maybe. She's Arab cross Appaloosa. She's just two, but I swear she had a little "shuffle-foot" gait. I first thought she was a bay roan, but the owner had her tested, and she's chestnut - liver chestnut roan. She has enough App characteristics to be registered as an App. Any guesses on the Buckskin? She's not related to the roan. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [IceHorses] What breed, roan mare
On 5/16/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Any guesses about what breed/breeds is this young roan mare? > > Karen Thomas, NC > hmmm, distinct withers. a straight nose, something spanish I think? mustang maybe. janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] What Breed?/Raven
At 01:26 25.2.2007, you wrote: >Hello, >I got this photo from a woman on another list. Her son is in the >service and is currently in Germany. A group of service men decided to >join the local parade and show off their american riding skills. Her >son shot the photo of these riders and horses. What breed are the >horses? Raven ~:] >_ yellowed nosed long ears? a specific breed from Asia? Malin
Re: [IceHorses] what breed?
On 2/25/07, PeicasaArt ~ Denise Every <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Looks like a Belgian to me :) yes! she said "percheron draft" but I think she maybe doesnt know and I bet its belgian! Janice-- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] what breed?
Looks like a Belgian to me :) Denise Peicasa Art: http://stores.ebay.com/Peicasa-Fine-Animal-and-Nature-Art We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give. Sir Winston Churchill
Re: [IceHorses] what breed?
>>because hugeness combined with shortness makes for fatness... i should know :) hey! i resemble that remark!! HAHA! raven
Re: [IceHorses] what breed?
one tip off that he wasnt icelandic... when people would say "is he icelandic like your horse?" I would say "he looks a lot like my horse but my horse is shorter and has long fuzzy hair" which made me wonder...I guess haflingers and drafts have shorter winter coats than icelandics? He wasnt clipped, in fact her other horse, a mustang cross, had much longer body hair. And so does jaspar my twh. makes you sorta wonder... why would someone breed a horse that is gonna probably end up where no saddle will fit it. People shoud think of stuff like that when they breed! But maybe he was bred to pull logs in areas where short horses are needed or something! Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] what breed?
> Haflinger, or maybe draft cross? WINNER! He is half haflinger and half percheron. Just about a GUARANTEE for obesity I think... because hugeness combined with shhortness makes for fatness... i should know :) Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] what breed?
> Thanks what I was thinking , maybe a Haflinger cross? > > Saddle certainly perches on his back. Geee I wonder why he was > uncooperative to ride?? He was trotting down the road slinging his head with ears flat while she would make him circle and circle and he would wring his tail and flatten his ears and start to crow hop and she would circle and circle, and he appeared to have the worst jarring trot I've ever seen, or maybe she didn't know how to post. He was so unhappy! I felt sorry for him! There just didn't seem to be any release from his discomfort or her lack of any attempt to try and figure why he was acting so bad! I would at least got down and tried readjusting some things! I offered at the break for her to try him in my sensation but she said no "my saddle is light enough" so i went into this long "well, I have an icelandic built similar to this but even narrower I think and there's no treed saddle will fit him" blah blah on and onnn she looked at me like she was very bored and like I was a new species of roach bug or something, then went over and started flirting with a man. s. I did my part haha. I just wish I coulda helped him but maybe I did! maybe I planted a seed and when she gets desperate she will try a new saddle. but it wasnt just that. I think he is really too fat! Do you?? I cant really tell but he isnt just huge and stocky like Tivar he seems to waddle... Janice-- yipie tie yie yo
RE: [IceHorses] what breed?
Hi Karen, Thanks what I was thinking , maybe a Haflinger cross? Saddle certainly perches on his back. Geee I wonder why he was uncooperative to ride?? Robyn Icelandic Horse Farm Robyn Hood & Phil Pretty Vernon BC Canada www.icefarm.com --
Re: [IceHorses] what breed?
> Here is a horse on the ride yesterday. I got all excited thinking it > was icelandic. Guess what breed? I felt sorry for him in his saddle, > thinking it surely doesnt fit but she only ponied him and didnt ride. > Then at the end after she got off the other horse and rode him he > acted terrible, so i think he does have a saddlefit issue maybe? He sure looks "icelandic-y". Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] what breed?
HaflingerXDarft? No way does that saddle fit. Poor thing. He's very cute. Raven
Re: [IceHorses] what breed?
On 2/25/07, Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here is a horse on the ride yesterday. What a hunk! V
RE: [IceHorses] what breed?
Guess what breed? Haflinger, or maybe draft cross? Karen Thomas, NC -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/700 - Release Date: 2/24/2007 8:14 PM
Re: [IceHorses] What Breed?
> I don't know, but I bet they came from the same farm as the bull I rode one > time. HAHA!! Where did you find that bull! Love your pooche's outift. CUTE! Raven
