Re: [IceHorses] Mounting a horse - You Tube
> The only Dorrance book I have is True Unity by Tom Dorrance. I'd love to > see that photo. I couldn't find my copy, so I asked Leslie to send me one. She's in Norway now, and actually has been taking pictures for us of the Icelandics there. We'll have to wait until she gets back to her place in Sweden for Bill's picture. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
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Thanks, Karen. That's good information. Nancy
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--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The rider is Laurie Ledbetter.<< Wow, hearing her story makes it even more inspirational! When I first saw this video, it moved me to tears. Which is why I got so upset by some of the negative comments. > Folks, please find something else to snipe about.<< Said way better than I could say it! Susan in NV Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/ Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz
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--- Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I wonder if we could train Tosca to stand for the > use of a patient lift - like a Hoyer. She's so > good, I'll bet we could just float Stephanie over the top<< That would probably work, and since Tosca is used to a WC, I'll bet it would only take 15 minutes to get her used to the Hoyer! Susan in NV Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/ Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/
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> We haven't firgured out how to get Stephanie up on Tosca. > > Anyone have any great ideas? > > Nancy Nancy, I would encourage you to look at the NARHA (North American Riding for the Handicapped) website www.narha.org . There is also a Yahoo group called Theraputic Riding. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/therapeuticriding The moderator is Nora Fischbach, Executive Director Strides Therapeutic Riding Centers, Inc.www.strides.org . The list is a terrific resource for for anyone riding with and/or teaching riding to people with disabilities. There are many Theraputic Riding Centers that participate as well as riders with disabilities. Ideas and solutions are shared and a lot of information is in the files section for the yahoo group. Karen Harris Iowa
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On 05/09/07, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That sounds like a very good plan. > > Here are a couple of links someone on another list found to adaptive > saddles. How much support would Stephanie need? Which saddle would suit her best? Wanda
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That sounds like a very good plan. Here are a couple of links someone on another list found to adaptive saddles. http://www.photographsbydawn.com/saddleshop/cjsaddle.html http://www.freedomrider.com/saddlFR2.html?gclid=CLnNzI-1tY0CFQQ3OAodMR6FMQ I particularly like the looks of the second one. Nancy
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On 05/09/07, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was going to take pictures one day of Stephanie standing to groom Tosca. I > put the vaulting surcingle on, thinking Steph could hold herself up with one > hand and brush with the other. Everything went wrong and Stephanie went > sliding feet first under Tosca, good pony, who stood their like the little > trooper she is while I pulled Stephanie back out. I decided that was not > one of my better plans. > > Nancy I think I've landed underneath every horse here, everyone except for Peppy. Actually I'm a great training tool. :) I don't recall anyone getting overly upset that their human was staring up at them from the ground. Wanda
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The only Dorrance book I have is True Unity by Tom Dorrance. I'd love to see that photo. How was Tom D getting himself into the saddle? We do have a patient life, although we rarely use it. Stephanie can transfer herself by standing briefly, Ronnie can do a sliding transfer, I sort of slide Brenda on my knees and Bruce does a full lift on Jenny. They all weigh in at about just 100 lbes, but they have different physical issues. I was going to take pictures one day of Stephanie standing to groom Tosca. I put the vaulting surcingle on, thinking Steph could hold herself up with one hand and brush with the other. Everything went wrong and Stephanie went sliding feet first under Tosca, good pony, who stood their like the little trooper she is while I pulled Stephanie back out. I decided that was not one of my better plans. Nancy
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> I just had a thought. I wonder if we could train Tosca to stand for the > use of a patient lift - like a Hoyer. She's so good, I'll bet we could > just > float Stephanie over the top like Mary Martin doing Peter Pan. Absolutely. I didn't suggest that, not knowing if you had one or wanted to get one, but that is a definite possibility. Bill Dorrance used a similar contraption to put his saddle on Beaut towards the end of his life (90+ years). I had a picture of it... maybe it's in the book. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
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Nancy, I've seen a two-sided structure where one side is a ramp that a wheelchair can climb with room for a helper, and the other side is wide enough for a another helper to stand on to assist the rider into the saddle. The horse was standing quietly between the two structures. There was also a helper on the ground at the horses head. It reminded me of a subway train in between two loading docks, except a much smaller version...and instead of a train...you have a horse. The saddle had supports that rose up from the saddle in a circle or band that strapped around the rib cage. Does that make sense at all? I saw this on TV a few years ago, so I'm sure I don't have pics of it. Wanda
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Our friends may be building a ramp for their daughter. I think we will let them figure it out and test drive it, then troubleshoot from their experience. I just had a thought. I wonder if we could train Tosca to stand for the use of a patient lift - like a Hoyer. She's so good, I'll bet we could just float Stephanie over the top like Mary Martin doing Peter Pan. Nancy
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> We haven't firgured out how to get Stephanie up on Tosca. When she was > involved in a therapeutic riding program, they were using a special ramp > that allowed wheelchair users to drive up to the level of a horse's back, > then step down into the saddle. They even had grab bars. I liked the way > the woman on the You Tube video used the steps, but there's nothing like > that for us. How about grandson? Can he built something similar? Either steps or a ramp would probably be good. My nephew builds ADP ramps, but out of concrete, so that might not be feasible for you. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
RE: [IceHorses] Mounting a horse - You Tube
We haven't firgured out how to get Stephanie up on Tosca. When she was involved in a therapeutic riding program, they were using a special ramp that allowed wheelchair users to drive up to the level of a horse's back, then step down into the saddle. They even had grab bars. I liked the way the woman on the You Tube video used the steps, but there's nothing like that for us. Anyone have any great ideas? I don't know, but I'll think about it, Nancy - a nice list project I think. She's not able to stand at all? And she's too big to lift, I guess? Do you have any pictures of the rig at the other place? I don't really know where to start thinking about something like this. Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.2/985 - Release Date: 9/2/2007 4:32 PM
Re: [IceHorses] Mounting a horse - You Tube
We haven't firgured out how to get Stephanie up on Tosca. When she was involved in a therapeutic riding program, they were using a special ramp that allowed wheelchair users to drive up to the level of a horse's back, then step down into the saddle. They even had grab bars. I liked the way the woman on the You Tube video used the steps, but there's nothing like that for us. Anyone have any great ideas? Nancy
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> The rider is Laurie Ledbetter. Thank you both, Karen and John. I appreciate having some understanding of the situation. Robyn S
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In a message dated 9/5/2007 12:52:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wr My first Iclandic mare a cross, was taught to go down like this for me. I have MS. Now I just get on because I am in remission. I was going to have my gelding trained to do this also but maybe I will be positive and no back sliding. I rode a QH with an Australian saddle that held me in when my right side was paralyzed for a while. It was my therapy. Sylvia ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
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The rider is Laurie Ledbetter. The woman behind is her mother, Cherie Briscoe. Laurie is riding one of Doc's progeny. Doc was the recently deceased Arab stallion Cherie owned and rode for decades. Laurie rode Doc as well before her accident several years ago. Doc is in the AERC Hall of Fame. He had some 14,000 plus miles in endurance competition. Remington and I rode right next to him for probably 1,000 miles at various multi-days over the years. He was built like a truck, the most substantial Arab I've ever seen. I used to tell Cherie he looked like a cutting horse with coiled power in every direction. Cherie tells me Laurie's horse is even stronger than Doc. Cherie is very small. Laurie is even smaller. The only adult rider I know who is smaller than Laurie is my wife, Marilyn. From seeing Laurie right next to 4' 9 1/2" Marilyn at rides and social events, I would say Laurie is 4' 10" and maybe 4' 11". Again from comparison to how she looks next to Marilyn, I would estimate Laurie at less than 100 lbs. The only thing Cherie loves more than her horses is her daughter. People in endurance all would agree that no one is more careful with a stallion than Cherie. Laurie was an incredibly talented rider and one very tough and funny lady before her accident on an ATV. She has been trying for years to rehab herself and train a horse so she could ride again. Her mother wouldn't let her do it if she didn't think it was safe for both horse and rider. Frankly, I trust that tiny Laurie under her mother's supervision caused less harm to her big strong horse than some listmembers might cause to their Icelandics with whatever they do. Those of us who know Laurie were terribly saddened to learn about her accident when it happened and her struggle since then. I am absolutely thrilled to see the video and see how far Laurie has progressed. With all his accomplishments and recognition, by far the greatest thing Remington ever did was carry and take care of my disabled son for fifty miles on his only endurance ride 11 years ago. I would cut off my right arm for my son to ride with me again. I would have no reservations about putting him on one of my horses even though it might be harder for them. Sometimes horses do noble things even if it means they bear a greater burden. From watching how Remington took care of my son 11 years ago, I think they know it. Folks, please find something else to snipe about. John Parke Solvang, CA ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
