Re: [IceHorses] new kind of bit?

2007-12-17 Thread Janice McDonald
gemstonerottswrote:
> It was my right foot. Last time I broke bones it was on my right ribs and
> pelvic eight years ago. I am 65, older than dirt. Sylvia

i ride with this woman who is 76 and she wears me out :)

janice

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Re: [IceHorses] new kind of bit?

2007-12-17 Thread gemstonerotts
 
In a message dated 12/16/2007 6:29:20 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
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It was my right foot. Last time I broke bones it was on my right ribs and  
pelvic eight years ago. I am 65, older than dirt. Sylvia





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Re: [IceHorses] new kind of bit?

2007-12-17 Thread Janice McDonald
this one falls into the category of so unbelievable but true  a
friend of mine's mom dogged her constantly about how dangerous horses
are.  She had been injured here and there over the years.  Then one
day in the middle of nowhere, her horse standing at a dead stop while
she chatted with another rider, she reached to adjust her stirrup, the
horse shifted casually and she fell and broke an ankle and a wrist at
once.  She liked to never got back on the horse, but made it back,
went to the hospital, got her casts on, but couldnt drive home.  much
as she hated to, called her mom to come get her.  All the way to the
pharmacy to get her pain meds the mom just griped griped griped,
ranting and raving about see?  Horses are going to kill you blah blah
blah.  Then at the drug store her mom rounded a corner, slipped on
some spilled shampoo and broke her arm.  haha.

thought of that cause I wanted to say last time i broke my toe i
stubbed it and a horse was nowhere near it :)
Janice--
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Re: [IceHorses] new kind of bit?

2007-12-17 Thread Penelope Hodge




> On 12/16/07, Penelope Hodge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> So maybe there is room for variations and I think that if anyone is going 
>> to
>> provide the variations, Janice would be that person. It is good to be
>> creative  :-)
>> Penny
>
>
>
> Haha Penny, Nancy, we need to start an "I do My Own Stunts" society :)
> Janice--
> yipie tie yie yo

Mine would be .. "I Do My Own Stunts But Not Always Successfully  Society" 
or  "Creative Landings Society".  Although, I must admit, that now that I am 
eligible for the Red Hat Society, and my body constantly reminds my of my 
earlier foolishness, I try to think before just leaping into anything.  Not 
as much fun but actually less painful.

;-)  Penny



Re: [IceHorses] new kind of bit?

2007-12-17 Thread Janice McDonald
On 12/16/07, Penelope Hodge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So maybe there is room for variations and I think that if anyone is going to
> provide the variations, Janice would be that person. It is good to be
> creative  :-)
> Penny



Haha Penny, Nancy, we need to start an "I do My Own Stunts" society :)
Janice--
yipie tie yie yo


Re: [IceHorses] new kind of bit?

2007-12-16 Thread Raven
>> I broke my nose on his neck.

oh...i did that once! on a horse that brought his huge head up too
fast and too high, as i was reaching down for the reins. boy...that
hurt.

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Re: [IceHorses] new kind of bit?

2007-12-16 Thread Penelope Hodge




>I don't know Janice, I seem to break bones on the side of the horse I fall
> off of.
>
> Nancy
>

Yep; that's been my experience, too.  And I have plenty of 
falling-off-and-breaking-things experience; I am my own scientific 
experiment.  Oh, but there was the time that the horse that I was riding 
decided to go left, and although I stayed "on" I broke my nose on his neck. 
So maybe there is room for variations and I think that if anyone is going to 
provide the variations, Janice would be that person. It is good to be 
creative  :-)

Penny



Re: [IceHorses] new kind of bit?

2007-12-16 Thread Nancy Sturm
I don't know Janice, I seem to break bones on the side of the horse I fall 
off of.

Nancy

> 



Re: [IceHorses] new kind of bit?

2007-12-16 Thread Janice McDonald
i dont know how old you are sylvia, but when i was 14 i broke three
toes on my left foot and in three weeks I was wearing pointy toe heels
at an easter service, then at age 45 I broke three toes on my right
foot and they hurt for 9 months, i couldnt wear closed toe shoes for
nine months.  then spring a year ago i broke a toe and now its just
started feeling healed and its been a year and 8 moths.  I am 57 now.
and this could be just an old wives tale but its come true for me...
someone said when you break a bone on one side of your body if you
arent getting enough extra calcium to heal it your body takes calcium
from the other side and next time you break a bone it will be on that
side.  nutty i know but its been true every time!
janice

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Re: [IceHorses] new kind of bit?

2007-12-16 Thread gemstonerotts
 
In a message dated 12/16/2007 3:51:49 AM Pacific Standard Time,  
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Oh that toe thing, I hit the little toe on one of my heavy duty dog crates,  
separated the two toes real hard. It hurt so badly I thought I would pass out. 
 But since then every thing I do hurts the toe. It is sticking out further  
than normal and the joint is swollen also. I run barefoot everywhere since with 
 the MS I need my feet to balance better. Needless to say my feet take a 
beating.  I have dropped a huge box on it and the dogs have stepped on it and I 
dropped a  can on the poor thing. I need to put it in a cage. I even dropped 
the 
salt  shaker on that foot.  I have resulted in walking with a broom stick to 
keep  the dogs off my foot. If I stuff it in shoes it hurts worse. Good think 
I live  in Southern California and its warm enough to run barefoot. I guess I 
could ride  barefoot. I think once my horse stepped on my toe and broke it so 
I know the  feeling. ouch. Sylvia






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RE: [IceHorses] new kind of bit?

2007-12-16 Thread Karen Thomas
 Today I had my first trail ride on Willie/Segull after he has been in
training for a month. He was wearing a rope sidepull and did fine plus he
had on  a regular Icelandic saddle treeless. Nice leather thing with
straighter leg panels, more a dressage type than I like. But it fit him
great, he was such  a good boy on trail and it felt good to be on him even
with my broken toe. He is going to be a great horse. Sylvia


That's great, Sylvia!  Willie sounds like a wonderful boy.


What happened to your toe?   My husband was Christmas shopping yesterday,
and dropped a big boxed wrench set on his foot.  It looks bad, but he
refused to go to the doctor - I guess it sounds silly to him to tell the ER
crew he was injured with Christmas shopping.   (I sure hope I'm not getting
a wrench set for Christmas)


Karen Thomas, NC



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Re: [IceHorses] new kind of bit?

2007-12-15 Thread gemstonerotts
 
In a message dated 12/15/2007 5:07:59 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
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Today I had my first trail ride on Willie/Segull after he has been in  
training for a month. He was wearing a rope sidepull and did fine plus he had 
on  a 
regular Icelandic saddle treeless. Nice leather thing with straighter leg  
panels, more a dressage type than I like. But it fit him great, he was such  a 
good boy on trail and it felt good to be on him even with my broken toe. He is  
going to be a great horse. Sylvia





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Re: [IceHorses] new kind of bit?

2007-12-15 Thread Judy Ryder


> learn best from verbal descriptions.  what is it like to ride like that;
> how do horses like it; what use does it have in the overall picture?


It's very nice to ride without a lot of equipment between horse and rider.

Working up to that point helps you create a special bond.

(One can start with the PNH 7 games, then progress to the riding tasks, up 
the different levels.)

Sometimes things don't have a specific *use*, but we do them because we can.

So that makes it fun to do it, something special.

Some horses like it; some don't.

I rode Ljufur with a Cherokee bridle, and he was fine.  He was fine with the 
neck rope.  But he was skeptical about riding totally bridleless.  He did 
it, but with reservations :-).

Skumur enjoyed being bridleless, also loved the neckrope and the Cherokee 
bridle.

Hlynur also.

I had to think about whether I'd ever ridden Cookie in the Cherokee bridle 
(it's a little bit different than the leather bit connected to reins minus 
headstall; it's just a continuous string from one hand to around the jaw).

I couldn't remember ever riding her with it (but she does bridleless and 
neckrope), so thought we'd introduce it this afternoon.  I only had a few 
minutes since we had unexpected company this morning, and company coming 
tomorrow so I should be cleaning house (but you know what they say if 
your house is too clean, you're not spending enough time with your horse 
:-)).

So, you've inspired me to try it with her.

She hasn't worn a bit in about six years.  I'm pretty sure she'd take one 
OK, but having the string in her mouth was something else.  She mouthed it 
quite a bit.  Probably tasted pretty dirty.

In any case, it was just an introduction to the string, so we'll practice 
again later on.


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Re: [IceHorses] new kind of bit?

2007-12-15 Thread pyramid

> Here's some pictures of riding with the string in the mouth:
> 
> http://iceryder.net/string.html

thank you for the pictures, but i am afraid i am one of those people who
learn best from verbal descriptions.  what is it like to ride like that;
how do horses like it; what use does it have in the overall picture?

--vicka


Re: [IceHorses] new kind of bit?

2007-12-15 Thread Judy Ryder



> anyone have any experience with these?
>
> http://www.hiddencreekva.com/natureswaybits.htm


Here's some pictures of riding with the string in the mouth:

http://iceryder.net/string.html

And also there are pictures (will have to find the link) of riding with one 
rein of the string and the other end hooked around the lower jaw.


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Re: [IceHorses] new kind of bit?

2007-12-15 Thread pyramid
On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 09:41:12AM -0800, Nancy  Sturm wrote:
> So years ago, I went out on trail with a very green thorouhbred mare, one of 
> her first outings away from the riding ring.  The headstall broke and the 
> bit dropped out of her mouth and I was left with a simple headstall and no 
> reins for a moment.  Being essentially  lazy, I didn't want to walk home, so 
> I attached the reins to the headstall, put the bit in my pocekt and rode her 
> on home.  The interesting thing to me was that she was very little different 
> bitless than she was with my all-time favorite security blanket bit.  It was 
> a nice object lesson for me at the time.

*nods* i had a similar object lesson from one of my students, who while
tacking up said "what if we didn't put on the bridle?"  we attached
reins to stjarni's halter, and although he is anything but a green tb
mare he too was still very much like himself even w/o his bridle and
full-cheek french-link bit.

i now do halter-and-reins lessons now and then with all my students who
ride stjarni.  at some point i'll get up the guts to try it with the
student with the crazy old quarab -- i'm sure *he* has the guts to do
it, he's a fantastic rider and very brave, but speaking as his instructor 
i'm not sure *i'm* ready to watch that yet :)

--vicka


Re: [IceHorses] new kind of bit?

2007-12-15 Thread Nancy Sturm
I think that like many bits, it would be only as good as the hands of the 
rider.  And she had better have darned quiet hands.  Actually, it would be 
an interesting test for all of us.  Could we give direction, ask for 
flexion,  a stop,  a canter depart without pulling the bit right out of the 
horse's mouth.

I have always loved a D-ring snaffle and I've ridden with one so long that 
my hand reactions are pretty subtle and effective.  It's a security blanket 
sort of thing.

So years ago, I went out on trail with a very green thorouhbred mare, one of 
her first outings away from the riding ring.  The headstall broke and the 
bit dropped out of her mouth and I was left with a simple headstall and no 
reins for a moment.  Being essentially  lazy, I didn't want to walk home, so 
I attached the reins to the headstall, put the bit in my pocekt and rode her 
on home.  The interesting thing to me was that she was very little different 
bitless than she was with my all-time favorite security blanket bit.  It was 
a nice object lesson for me at the time.

Nancy