Re: [id-android] WTI - Hate Android
Lucu aja,dia protes soal net neutrality karena Google partneran sama Verizon dan bahwa Google pada awalnya menjanjikan your phone should be free dan menghubungkan dengan berita tidak terkonfirmasi bahwa Google semula menetapkan harga Nexus One $99. Semua alasan ini bisa dibalikkan ke Apple (yg diakui si penulis adalah favoritnya),pertama Steve Jobs semula menginginkan iPhone berjalan di sinyal Wifi,bukan jaringan seluler,tapi kemudian malah rilis eksklusif (yang artinya monopolistik) di jaringan ATT dengan harga yang jauh lebih tinggi daripada rilis Nexus One dan seri2 Nexus berikutnya. On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 7:18 PM, Andika Ikhsan ikhsan.and...@gmail.comwrote: tadi liat twitter ada TT Hate Android ternyata asalnya adalah dari artikel ini.. http://parislemon.com/post/15604811641/why-i-hate-android jujur bahasanya rada njelimet dan ada hubungannya sama sejarah android yg saya sendiri ga paham.. mungkin ada yg bs ngasih penjelasan soal fakta2 yg disebut di artikel ini? *HATE ANDROID* Why do I hate Android? It’s definitely one of the questions I get asked most often these days. And most of those that don’t ask probably assume it’s because I’m an iPhone guy. People see negative take after negative take about the operating system and label me as “unreasonable” or “biased” or worse. I should probably explain. Believe it or not, I actually don’t hate Android. That is to say, I don’t hate the *concept* of Android — in fact, at one point, I loved it. What I hate is what Android has become. And more specifically, what Google has done with Android. Let’s turn back the clock. In 2006, the mobile landscape in the United States was almost unfathomably shitty. Motorola’s RAZR had been the top-selling device for something ridiculous like five straight years — and the only thing that didn’t suck about it was its physical size. The carriers completely controlled the industry. This cannot be overstated. Then on January 9, 2007 — exactly 5 years ago today — Steve Jobs took the stage at Macworld to unveil the iPhone. Six months later it was released. While some laughed it off http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXq9NTjEdTo at the time, the mobile landscape completely changed. Apple and Google were great allies at the time. They united over a common enemy: Microsoft. Then-Google CEO Eric Schmidt was even on Apple’s board of directors. Google was a huge part of original iPhone OS (before it was called iOS): Google Maps, YouTube, Google Search, etc. Apple could have launched the iPhone without Google, but it wouldn’t have been as good. And if they had to do something like build their own maps from scratch, it would have taken longer. A few months later, on November 5, 2007, Google teamed up with many of the big players in the mobile/telecom space to announce the Open Handset Alliance. At the time it sounded promising, but perhaps it should have been the first warning sign. The first product of this partnership: Android. A beta was released, but it would take almost another year before the software was actually ready to go. The initial Android prototypeshttp://gizmodo.com/334909/google-android-prototype-in-the-wild?tag=gadgetsandroidhardwareinthewildlooked a lot like BlackBerry devices (both in hardware and software). But the first device (the G1) and OS actually released was more of a cross between a T-Mobile Sidekick (which Android head Andy Rubin helped create while still a co-founder at Dangerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger_%28company%29) and the iPhone OS. In hindsight, Steve Jobs was clearly not happy about thishttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/steve-jobs-android-a-stolen-product/61504and the subsequent iPhone-ification of Android. But great artists steal, etc, etc. The only thing I didn’t like about Android at the time was that it was a *shitty* copy of the iPhone. It was something you couldn’t pay me to use. And most people seemed to feel the same way. Jobs probably didn’t say much at the time because he didn’t have to. The market was saying it. Time went on and it was pretty clear that despite the major players involved in the OHA, Android wasn’t getting a lot of traction. Meanwhile, the iPhone, after a price-cut and addition of 3G technology, was soaring. So Google did the logical thing, they went to see Verizon, the largest U.S. carrier, and struck a dealhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33192558/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/t/verizon-google-android-partnership/#.Twuk997uYug . Remember, Apple still had an agreement with ATT for exclusive iPhone rights in the U.S. at the time. Verizon and Google needed each other. But Google clearly needed Verizon more. This was the first real problem. A deal with the devil was struck. Let’s back up for a second. Even before Android’s launch, Google clearly had big dreams for the mobile space. “Your mobile phone should be free,” Eric Schmidt
Re: [id-android] WTI - Hate Android
Analogi nya seperti Snape(Si Author) yang membenci Harry Potter(Android). Diyakininya, si Harry Potter itu bisa berkembang jadi Voldemort (Si Jahat). :) Enlik Tjioe On Jan 11, 2012 9:29 AM, Renner Chen rc.milest...@gmail.com wrote: ** Indeed... I also do hate android! ;-) sol --rc Sent from my 9850 via EVDO rev. B Network. -- *From: * Andika Ikhsan ikhsan.and...@gmail.com *Sender: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:18:49 +0700 *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Subject: *[id-android] WTI - Hate Android tadi liat twitter ada TT Hate Android ternyata asalnya adalah dari artikel ini.. http://parislemon.com/post/15604811641/why-i-hate-android jujur bahasanya rada njelimet dan ada hubungannya sama sejarah android yg saya sendiri ga paham.. mungkin ada yg bs ngasih penjelasan soal fakta2 yg disebut di artikel ini? *HATE ANDROID* Why do I hate Android? It’s definitely one of the questions I get asked most often these days. And most of those that don’t ask probably assume it’s because I’m an iPhone guy. People see negative take after negative take about the operating system and label me as “unreasonable” or “biased” or worse. I should probably explain. Believe it or not, I actually don’t hate Android. That is to say, I don’t hate the *concept* of Android — in fact, at one point, I loved it. What I hate is what Android has become. And more specifically, what Google has done with Android. Let’s turn back the clock. In 2006, the mobile landscape in the United States was almost unfathomably shitty. Motorola’s RAZR had been the top-selling device for something ridiculous like five straight years — and the only thing that didn’t suck about it was its physical size. The carriers completely controlled the industry. This cannot be overstated. Then on January 9, 2007 — exactly 5 years ago today — Steve Jobs took the stage at Macworld to unveil the iPhone. Six months later it was released. While some laughed it off http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXq9NTjEdTo at the time, the mobile landscape completely changed. Apple and Google were great allies at the time. They united over a common enemy: Microsoft. Then-Google CEO Eric Schmidt was even on Apple’s board of directors. Google was a huge part of original iPhone OS (before it was called iOS): Google Maps, YouTube, Google Search, etc. Apple could have launched the iPhone without Google, but it wouldn’t have been as good. And if they had to do something like build their own maps from scratch, it would have taken longer. A few months later, on November 5, 2007, Google teamed up with many of the big players in the mobile/telecom space to announce the Open Handset Alliance. At the time it sounded promising, but perhaps it should have been the first warning sign. The first product of this partnership: Android. A beta was released, but it would take almost another year before the software was actually ready to go. The initial Android prototypeshttp://gizmodo.com/334909/google-android-prototype-in-the-wild?tag=gadgetsandroidhardwareinthewildlooked a lot like BlackBerry devices (both in hardware and software). But the first device (the G1) and OS actually released was more of a cross between a T-Mobile Sidekick (which Android head Andy Rubin helped create while still a co-founder at Dangerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger_%28company%29) and the iPhone OS. In hindsight, Steve Jobs was clearly not happy about thishttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/steve-jobs-android-a-stolen-product/61504and the subsequent iPhone-ification of Android. But great artists steal, etc, etc. The only thing I didn’t like about Android at the time was that it was a *shitty* copy of the iPhone. It was something you couldn’t pay me to use. And most people seemed to feel the same way. Jobs probably didn’t say much at the time because he didn’t have to. The market was saying it. Time went on and it was pretty clear that despite the major players involved in the OHA, Android wasn’t getting a lot of traction. Meanwhile, the iPhone, after a price-cut and addition of 3G technology, was soaring. So Google did the logical thing, they went to see Verizon, the largest U.S. carrier, and struck a dealhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33192558/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/t/verizon-google-android-partnership/#.Twuk997uYug . Remember, Apple still had an agreement with ATT for exclusive iPhone rights in the U.S. at the time. Verizon and Google needed each other. But Google clearly needed Verizon more. This was the first real problem. A deal with the devil was struck. Let’s back up for a second. Even before Android’s launch, Google clearly had big dreams for the mobile space. “Your mobile phone should be free,” Eric Schmidt toldhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15700344/Reuters in late 2006. He envisioned a world in which consumers
Re: [id-android] WTI - Hate Android
kalo itumah snape emang dendam ma James Potter trus nurun ke anaknya (harry potter) #lah jadi bahas harry potter On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 9:09 PM, Enlik Tjioe enlik.stefa...@gmail.comwrote: Analogi nya seperti Snape(Si Author) yang membenci Harry Potter(Android). Diyakininya, si Harry Potter itu bisa berkembang jadi Voldemort (Si Jahat). :) Enlik Tjioe On Jan 11, 2012 9:29 AM, Renner Chen rc.milest...@gmail.com wrote: ** Indeed... I also do hate android! ;-) sol --rc Sent from my 9850 via EVDO rev. B Network. -- *From: *Andika Ikhsan ikhsan.and...@gmail.com *Sender: *id-android@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:18:49 +0700 *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: *id-android@googlegroups.com *Subject: *[id-android] WTI - Hate Android tadi liat twitter ada TT Hate Android ternyata asalnya adalah dari artikel ini.. http://parislemon.com/post/15604811641/why-i-hate-android jujur bahasanya rada njelimet dan ada hubungannya sama sejarah android yg saya sendiri ga paham.. mungkin ada yg bs ngasih penjelasan soal fakta2 yg disebut di artikel ini? *HATE ANDROID* Why do I hate Android? It’s definitely one of the questions I get asked most often these days. And most of those that don’t ask probably assume it’s because I’m an iPhone guy. People see negative take after negative take about the operating system and label me as “unreasonable” or “biased” or worse. I should probably explain. Believe it or not, I actually don’t hate Android. That is to say, I don’t hate the *concept* of Android — in fact, at one point, I loved it. What I hate is what Android has become. And more specifically, what Google has done with Android. Let’s turn back the clock. In 2006, the mobile landscape in the United States was almost unfathomably shitty. Motorola’s RAZR had been the top-selling device for something ridiculous like five straight years — and the only thing that didn’t suck about it was its physical size. The carriers completely controlled the industry. This cannot be overstated. Then on January 9, 2007 — exactly 5 years ago today — Steve Jobs took the stage at Macworld to unveil the iPhone. Six months later it was released. While some laughed it off http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXq9NTjEdToat the time, the mobile landscape completely changed. Apple and Google were great allies at the time. They united over a common enemy: Microsoft. Then-Google CEO Eric Schmidt was even on Apple’s board of directors. Google was a huge part of original iPhone OS (before it was called iOS): Google Maps, YouTube, Google Search, etc. Apple could have launched the iPhone without Google, but it wouldn’t have been as good. And if they had to do something like build their own maps from scratch, it would have taken longer. A few months later, on November 5, 2007, Google teamed up with many of the big players in the mobile/telecom space to announce the Open Handset Alliance. At the time it sounded promising, but perhaps it should have been the first warning sign. The first product of this partnership: Android. A beta was released, but it would take almost another year before the software was actually ready to go. The initial Android prototypeshttp://gizmodo.com/334909/google-android-prototype-in-the-wild?tag=gadgetsandroidhardwareinthewildlooked a lot like BlackBerry devices (both in hardware and software). But the first device (the G1) and OS actually released was more of a cross between a T-Mobile Sidekick (which Android head Andy Rubin helped create while still a co-founder at Dangerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger_%28company%29) and the iPhone OS. In hindsight, Steve Jobs was clearly not happy about thishttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/steve-jobs-android-a-stolen-product/61504and the subsequent iPhone-ification of Android. But great artists steal, etc, etc. The only thing I didn’t like about Android at the time was that it was a *shitty* copy of the iPhone. It was something you couldn’t pay me to use. And most people seemed to feel the same way. Jobs probably didn’t say much at the time because he didn’t have to. The market was saying it. Time went on and it was pretty clear that despite the major players involved in the OHA, Android wasn’t getting a lot of traction. Meanwhile, the iPhone, after a price-cut and addition of 3G technology, was soaring. So Google did the logical thing, they went to see Verizon, the largest U.S. carrier, and struck a dealhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33192558/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/t/verizon-google-android-partnership/#.Twuk997uYug . Remember, Apple still had an agreement with ATT for exclusive iPhone rights in the U.S. at the time. Verizon and Google needed each other. But Google clearly needed Verizon more. This was the first real problem. A deal with the devil was struck. Let’s back up for a second. Even before Android’s launch, Google clearly
Re: [id-android] WTI - Hate Android
Bah, nyampe sini juga ini tulisan ga jelas. Coba aja dibaca sampai habis, ada yg ngerti alasan dia benci android? Kalaupun ngerti, apakah alasannya masuk akal? ;-P Blogging: never before have so many people with so little to say said so much to so few. On 17/01/2012 6:30 AM, Enlik Tjioe enlik.stefa...@gmail.com wrote: Analogi nya seperti Snape(Si Author) yang membenci Harry Potter(Android). Diyakininya, si Harry Potter itu bisa berkembang jadi Voldemort (Si Jahat). :) Enlik Tjioe On Jan 11, 2012 9:29 AM, Renner Chen rc.milest...@gmail.com wrote: ** Indeed... I also do hate android! ;-) sol --rc Sent from my 9850 via EVDO rev. B Network. -- *From: * Andika Ikhsan ikhsan.and...@gmail.com *Sender: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:18:49 +0700 *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Subject: *[id-android] WTI - Hate Android tadi liat twitter ada TT Hate Android ternyata asalnya adalah dari artikel ini.. http://parislemon.com/post/15604811641/why-i-hate-android jujur bahasanya rada njelimet dan ada hubungannya sama sejarah android yg saya sendiri ga paham.. mungkin ada yg bs ngasih penjelasan soal fakta2 yg disebut di artikel ini? *HATE ANDROID* Why do I hate Android? It’s definitely one of the questions I get asked most often these days. And most of those that don’t ask probably assume it’s because I’m an iPhone guy. People see negative take after negative take about the operating system and label me as “unreasonable” or “biased” or worse. I should probably explain. Believe it or not, I actually don’t hate Android. That is to say, I don’t hate the *concept* of Android — in fact, at one point, I loved it. What I hate is what Android has become. And more specifically, what Google has done with Android. Let’s turn back the clock. In 2006, the mobile landscape in the United States was almost unfathomably shitty. Motorola’s RAZR had been the top-selling device for something ridiculous like five straight years — and the only thing that didn’t suck about it was its physical size. The carriers completely controlled the industry. This cannot be overstated. Then on January 9, 2007 — exactly 5 years ago today — Steve Jobs took the stage at Macworld to unveil the iPhone. Six months later it was released. While some laughed it off http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXq9NTjEdToat the time, the mobile landscape completely changed. Apple and Google were great allies at the time. They united over a common enemy: Microsoft. Then-Google CEO Eric Schmidt was even on Apple’s board of directors. Google was a huge part of original iPhone OS (before it was called iOS): Google Maps, YouTube, Google Search, etc. Apple could have launched the iPhone without Google, but it wouldn’t have been as good. And if they had to do something like build their own maps from scratch, it would have taken longer. A few months later, on November 5, 2007, Google teamed up with many of the big players in the mobile/telecom space to announce the Open Handset Alliance. At the time it sounded promising, but perhaps it should have been the first warning sign. The first product of this partnership: Android. A beta was released, but it would take almost another year before the software was actually ready to go. The initial Android prototypeshttp://gizmodo.com/334909/google-android-prototype-in-the-wild?tag=gadgetsandroidhardwareinthewildlooked a lot like BlackBerry devices (both in hardware and software). But the first device (the G1) and OS actually released was more of a cross between a T-Mobile Sidekick (which Android head Andy Rubin helped create while still a co-founder at Dangerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger_%28company%29) and the iPhone OS. In hindsight, Steve Jobs was clearly not happy about thishttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/steve-jobs-android-a-stolen-product/61504and the subsequent iPhone-ification of Android. But great artists steal, etc, etc. The only thing I didn’t like about Android at the time was that it was a *shitty* copy of the iPhone. It was something you couldn’t pay me to use. And most people seemed to feel the same way. Jobs probably didn’t say much at the time because he didn’t have to. The market was saying it. Time went on and it was pretty clear that despite the major players involved in the OHA, Android wasn’t getting a lot of traction. Meanwhile, the iPhone, after a price-cut and addition of 3G technology, was soaring. So Google did the logical thing, they went to see Verizon, the largest U.S. carrier, and struck a dealhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33192558/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/t/verizon-google-android-partnership/#.Twuk997uYug . Remember, Apple still had an agreement with ATT for exclusive iPhone rights in the U.S. at the time. Verizon and Google needed each other. But Google clearly needed Verizon more
Re: [id-android] WTI - Hate Android
yg jelas eike lihat, eike suka, eike beli ehh pas bayar cocok lagi sama dikantong... jadi ambil dah.. yang lain??? eike ga suka On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 7:18 PM, Andika Ikhsan ikhsan.and...@gmail.comwrote: tadi liat twitter ada TT Hate Android ternyata asalnya adalah dari artikel ini.. http://parislemon.com/post/15604811641/why-i-hate-android jujur bahasanya rada njelimet dan ada hubungannya sama sejarah android yg saya sendiri ga paham.. mungkin ada yg bs ngasih penjelasan soal fakta2 yg disebut di artikel ini? *HATE ANDROID* Why do I hate Android? It’s definitely one of the questions I get asked most often these days. And most of those that don’t ask probably assume it’s because I’m an iPhone guy. People see negative take after negative take about the operating system and label me as “unreasonable” or “biased” or worse. I should probably explain. Believe it or not, I actually don’t hate Android. That is to say, I don’t hate the *concept* of Android — in fact, at one point, I loved it. What I hate is what Android has become. And more specifically, what Google has done with Android. Let’s turn back the clock. In 2006, the mobile landscape in the United States was almost unfathomably shitty. Motorola’s RAZR had been the top-selling device for something ridiculous like five straight years — and the only thing that didn’t suck about it was its physical size. The carriers completely controlled the industry. This cannot be overstated. Then on January 9, 2007 — exactly 5 years ago today — Steve Jobs took the stage at Macworld to unveil the iPhone. Six months later it was released. While some laughed it off http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXq9NTjEdTo at the time, the mobile landscape completely changed. Apple and Google were great allies at the time. They united over a common enemy: Microsoft. Then-Google CEO Eric Schmidt was even on Apple’s board of directors. Google was a huge part of original iPhone OS (before it was called iOS): Google Maps, YouTube, Google Search, etc. Apple could have launched the iPhone without Google, but it wouldn’t have been as good. And if they had to do something like build their own maps from scratch, it would have taken longer. A few months later, on November 5, 2007, Google teamed up with many of the big players in the mobile/telecom space to announce the Open Handset Alliance. At the time it sounded promising, but perhaps it should have been the first warning sign. The first product of this partnership: Android. A beta was released, but it would take almost another year before the software was actually ready to go. The initial Android prototypeshttp://gizmodo.com/334909/google-android-prototype-in-the-wild?tag=gadgetsandroidhardwareinthewildlooked a lot like BlackBerry devices (both in hardware and software). But the first device (the G1) and OS actually released was more of a cross between a T-Mobile Sidekick (which Android head Andy Rubin helped create while still a co-founder at Dangerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger_%28company%29) and the iPhone OS. In hindsight, Steve Jobs was clearly not happy about thishttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/steve-jobs-android-a-stolen-product/61504and the subsequent iPhone-ification of Android. But great artists steal, etc, etc. The only thing I didn’t like about Android at the time was that it was a *shitty* copy of the iPhone. It was something you couldn’t pay me to use. And most people seemed to feel the same way. Jobs probably didn’t say much at the time because he didn’t have to. The market was saying it. Time went on and it was pretty clear that despite the major players involved in the OHA, Android wasn’t getting a lot of traction. Meanwhile, the iPhone, after a price-cut and addition of 3G technology, was soaring. So Google did the logical thing, they went to see Verizon, the largest U.S. carrier, and struck a dealhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33192558/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/t/verizon-google-android-partnership/#.Twuk997uYug . Remember, Apple still had an agreement with ATT for exclusive iPhone rights in the U.S. at the time. Verizon and Google needed each other. But Google clearly needed Verizon more. This was the first real problem. A deal with the devil was struck. Let’s back up for a second. Even before Android’s launch, Google clearly had big dreams for the mobile space. “Your mobile phone should be free,” Eric Schmidt toldhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15700344/Reuters in late 2006. He envisioned a world in which consumers didn’t have to pay for their mobile phones — advertising (served by Google, naturally) would subsidize the cost. And we’re not talking “free” with a two-year carrier contract. We’re talking *free* free. In the pre-iPhone world this may have sounded like crazy-talk. But remember, as an Apple board member and having purchased Android for Google in 2005, Schmidt knew what was coming down the
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... Dengan subsidi silang dari iklan. -Original Message- From: cangwadi ahmad.isw...@gmail.com Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 10:38:30 To: id-android@googlegroups.com Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [id-android] WTI - Hate Android dengan apa om? 2012/1/11 sasongko Adi sasongko...@gmail.com Sepertinya tuntutan zaman yg memaksa ponsel tak jadi gratis. Thanks buat artikelnya, nice info. Ternyata mimpi google yg pertama adalah menjual ponsel murah dengan. Sent from HTC Sensation You are the next sensation On Jan 11, 2012 10:25 AM, Andi - leo5354 leo5...@se-ven.net wrote: ** Secara garis besar yg saya tangkap dari artikelnya adalah kekecewaan author bahwa konsep awal Google atas dunia mobile lewat platform Android ternyata justru tidak ditepati. Salah satu alasan yg dikemukakan adalah bahwa Eric Schmidt pernah mengatakan bahwa HP seharusnya gratis (layanan advertising Google yg menyediakan subsidi) Tp kenyataannya karena keterbatasan Google sendiri, dimana mereka bukan operator jaringan memaksa Google berkompromi dengan operator sehingga harga handset bukannya jadi murah malah lumayan mahal (contoh yg diberikan adalah Nexus One dgn harga $579) Selain itu soal Net Neutrality dimana menurut author Google yg pada awalnya mendukung konsep itu malah akhirnya berkolaborasi dgn operator Verizon (yg menentang) Secara garis besar opininya memang masih subyektif karena berdasar pendapatnya tp argumennya jelas dan masuk akal walau masih bisa diperdebatkan Paling ngga kita jadi punya perspektif lain atas terminologi open Android sebagai platform To work, to sweat and to struggle is the enjoyment and achievement of life -- *From: * Amer moamer.khad...@gmail.com *Sender: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Date: *Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:06:45 +0700 *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [id-android] WTI - Hate Android blom baca karena bahasa linggis saya jelek. jadi kesimpulannya borok android dan google ada hubungannya dengan open flatform itu gimana om? On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Andi - leo5354 leo5...@se-ven.netwrote: ** Google translate aja bro Artikel ini wajib dibaca oleh mereka yg mengagungkan Android sebagai open platform karena dalam artikel ini beberapa borok Android dan Google dibeberkan secara lugas dan jelas Nice share buat authornya karena membantu kita memandang hal dari suatu perspektif yg jelas dan didukung fakta, bukan asal ngomong tp ngga nyambung To work, to sweat and to struggle is the enjoyment and achievement of life -- *From: * Andika Ikhsan ikhsan.and...@gmail.com *Sender: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:18:49 +0700 *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Subject: *[id-android] WTI - Hate Android tadi liat twitter ada TT Hate Android ternyata asalnya adalah dari artikel ini.. http://parislemon.com/post/15604811641/why-i-hate-android jujur bahasanya rada njelimet dan ada hubungannya sama sejarah android yg saya sendiri ga paham.. mungkin ada yg bs ngasih penjelasan soal fakta2 yg disebut di artikel ini? *HATE ANDROID* Why do I hate Android? It’s definitely one of the questions I get asked most often these days. And most of those that don’t ask probably assume it’s because I’m an iPhone guy. People see negative take after negative take about the operating system and label me as “unreasonable” or “biased” or worse. I should probably explain. Believe it or not, I actually don’t hate Android. That is to say, I don’t hate the *concept* of Android — in fact, at one point, I loved it. What I hate is what Android has become. And more specifically, what Google has done with Android. Let’s turn back the clock. In 2006, the mobile landscape in the United States was almost unfathomably shitty. Motorola’s RAZR had been the top-selling device for something ridiculous like five straight years — and the only thing that didn’t suck about it was its physical size. The carriers completely controlled the industry. This cannot be overstated. Then on January 9, 2007 — exactly 5 years ago today — Steve Jobs took the stage at Macworld to unveil the iPhone. Six months later it was released. While some laughed it offhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXq9NTjEdToat the time, the mobile landscape completely changed. Apple and Google were great allies at the time. They united over a common enemy: Microsoft. Then-Google CEO Eric Schmidt was even on Apple’s board of directors. Google was a huge part of original iPhone OS (before it was called iOS): Google Maps, YouTube, Google Search, etc. Apple could have launched the iPhone without Google, but it wouldn’t have been as good. And if they had to do something like build their own maps from scratch, it would have taken longer. A few months later, on November
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bukannya sebenarnya tugas suci itu adalah google voice? tapi google voice kan lom bisa jalan di banyak negara. hanya negara tertentu yang sudah bisa. jadi nantinya operator hanya jualan data saja. On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Cakra Sumitra cakrami...@gmail.com wrote: Intinya tugas suci android ternyata kalah juga oleh keserakahan operator. Alih-alih melawan operator, sekarang android malah yg paling disukai oleh operator karena justru paling banyak menyumbang. On 11 Jan 2012, at 09:06, Amer moamer.khad...@gmail.com wrote: blom baca karena bahasa linggis saya jelek. jadi kesimpulannya borok android dan google ada hubungannya dengan open flatform itu gimana om? On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Andi - leo5354 leo5...@se-ven.netwrote: ** Google translate aja bro Artikel ini wajib dibaca oleh mereka yg mengagungkan Android sebagai open platform karena dalam artikel ini beberapa borok Android dan Google dibeberkan secara lugas dan jelas Nice share buat authornya karena membantu kita memandang hal dari suatu perspektif yg jelas dan didukung fakta, bukan asal ngomong tp ngga nyambung To work, to sweat and to struggle is the enjoyment and achievement of life -- *From: * Andika Ikhsan ikhsan.and...@gmail.com *Sender: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:18:49 +0700 *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Subject: *[id-android] WTI - Hate Android tadi liat twitter ada TT Hate Android ternyata asalnya adalah dari artikel ini.. http://parislemon.com/post/15604811641/why-i-hate-android jujur bahasanya rada njelimet dan ada hubungannya sama sejarah android yg saya sendiri ga paham.. mungkin ada yg bs ngasih penjelasan soal fakta2 yg disebut di artikel ini? *HATE ANDROID* Why do I hate Android? It’s definitely one of the questions I get asked most often these days. And most of those that don’t ask probably assume it’s because I’m an iPhone guy. People see negative take after negative take about the operating system and label me as “unreasonable” or “biased” or worse. I should probably explain. Believe it or not, I actually don’t hate Android. That is to say, I don’t hate the *concept* of Android — in fact, at one point, I loved it. What I hate is what Android has become. And more specifically, what Google has done with Android. Let’s turn back the clock. In 2006, the mobile landscape in the United States was almost unfathomably shitty. Motorola’s RAZR had been the top-selling device for something ridiculous like five straight years — and the only thing that didn’t suck about it was its physical size. The carriers completely controlled the industry. This cannot be overstated. Then on January 9, 2007 — exactly 5 years ago today — Steve Jobs took the stage at Macworld to unveil the iPhone. Six months later it was released. While some laughed it off http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXq9NTjEdToat the time, the mobile landscape completely changed. Apple and Google were great allies at the time. They united over a common enemy: Microsoft. Then-Google CEO Eric Schmidt was even on Apple’s board of directors. Google was a huge part of original iPhone OS (before it was called iOS): Google Maps, YouTube, Google Search, etc. Apple could have launched the iPhone without Google, but it wouldn’t have been as good. And if they had to do something like build their own maps from scratch, it would have taken longer. A few months later, on November 5, 2007, Google teamed up with many of the big players in the mobile/telecom space to announce the Open Handset Alliance. At the time it sounded promising, but perhaps it should have been the first warning sign. The first product of this partnership: Android. A beta was released, but it would take almost another year before the software was actually ready to go. The initial Android prototypeshttp://gizmodo.com/334909/google-android-prototype-in-the-wild?tag=gadgetsandroidhardwareinthewildlooked a lot like BlackBerry devices (both in hardware and software). But the first device (the G1) and OS actually released was more of a cross between a T-Mobile Sidekick (which Android head Andy Rubin helped create while still a co-founder at Dangerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger_%28company%29) and the iPhone OS. In hindsight, Steve Jobs was clearly not happy about thishttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/steve-jobs-android-a-stolen-product/61504and the subsequent iPhone-ification of Android. But great artists steal, etc, etc. The only thing I didn’t like about Android at the time was that it was a *shitty* copy of the iPhone. It was something you couldn’t pay me to use. And most people seemed to feel the same way. Jobs probably didn’t say much at the time because he didn’t have to. The market was saying it. Time went on and it was pretty clear that despite the major players involved in the OHA, Android wasn’t getting a lot
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Kayaknya sumber masalah di situ adalah keterikatan Google dengan operator ya. Coba Google waktu itu release produknya di Indonesia, mungkin nggak akan dituduh berkhianat :) - sent from optimusone white - On Jan 11, 2012 9:45 AM, abangkis abang...@gmail.com wrote: Agak ridiculous gak sih ? He's picking Android Promise Now ? MG Siegler itu udah nyerang semua aspek android. Sekarang dia nyerang sesuatu yg sifatnya lebih ke arah politik. Di antara semua Handset Manufacturer/ OS builder. Hanya Google dan Android-nya yg berani mencoba mengubah cara Telco di US ber-operasi. Dan ketika mereka belum berhasil, itu jadi dasarnya dia 'Hate Android', bukannya di dukung malah di jelek2in ? Coba cek artikel-artikel MG Siegler yg lain utk paham sebenarnya dia itu bagaimana. Ada fakta yg menarik sih. Google itu berusaha keras supaya pemilik hp di US itu gak terikat dengan 1 Telco operator. Dan bisa dengan bebas ganti-ganti sim card. Mungkin mereka perlu belajar ke Indonesia kali yah. Udah bertahun-tahun seperti itu di sini :) On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Andi - leo5354 leo5...@se-ven.netwrote: ** Secara garis besar yg saya tangkap dari artikelnya adalah kekecewaan author bahwa konsep awal Google atas dunia mobile lewat platform Android ternyata justru tidak ditepati. Salah satu alasan yg dikemukakan adalah bahwa Eric Schmidt pernah mengatakan bahwa HP seharusnya gratis (layanan advertising Google yg menyediakan subsidi) Tp kenyataannya karena keterbatasan Google sendiri, dimana mereka bukan operator jaringan memaksa Google berkompromi dengan operator sehingga harga handset bukannya jadi murah malah lumayan mahal (contoh yg diberikan adalah Nexus One dgn harga $579) Selain itu soal Net Neutrality dimana menurut author Google yg pada awalnya mendukung konsep itu malah akhirnya berkolaborasi dgn operator Verizon (yg menentang) Secara garis besar opininya memang masih subyektif karena berdasar pendapatnya tp argumennya jelas dan masuk akal walau masih bisa diperdebatkan Paling ngga kita jadi punya perspektif lain atas terminologi open Android sebagai platform To work, to sweat and to struggle is the enjoyment and achievement of life -- *From: * Amer moamer.khad...@gmail.com *Sender: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Date: *Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:06:45 +0700 *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [id-android] WTI - Hate Android blom baca karena bahasa linggis saya jelek. jadi kesimpulannya borok android dan google ada hubungannya dengan open flatform itu gimana om? On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Andi - leo5354 leo5...@se-ven.netwrote: ** Google translate aja bro Artikel ini wajib dibaca oleh mereka yg mengagungkan Android sebagai open platform karena dalam artikel ini beberapa borok Android dan Google dibeberkan secara lugas dan jelas Nice share buat authornya karena membantu kita memandang hal dari suatu perspektif yg jelas dan didukung fakta, bukan asal ngomong tp ngga nyambung To work, to sweat and to struggle is the enjoyment and achievement of life -- *From: * Andika Ikhsan ikhsan.and...@gmail.com *Sender: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:18:49 +0700 *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Subject: *[id-android] WTI - Hate Android tadi liat twitter ada TT Hate Android ternyata asalnya adalah dari artikel ini.. http://parislemon.com/post/15604811641/why-i-hate-android jujur bahasanya rada njelimet dan ada hubungannya sama sejarah android yg saya sendiri ga paham.. mungkin ada yg bs ngasih penjelasan soal fakta2 yg disebut di artikel ini? *HATE ANDROID* Why do I hate Android? It’s definitely one of the questions I get asked most often these days. And most of those that don’t ask probably assume it’s because I’m an iPhone guy. People see negative take after negative take about the operating system and label me as “unreasonable” or “biased” or worse. I should probably explain. Believe it or not, I actually don’t hate Android. That is to say, I don’t hate the *concept* of Android — in fact, at one point, I loved it. What I hate is what Android has become. And more specifically, what Google has done with Android. Let’s turn back the clock. In 2006, the mobile landscape in the United States was almost unfathomably shitty. Motorola’s RAZR had been the top-selling device for something ridiculous like five straight years — and the only thing that didn’t suck about it was its physical size. The carriers completely controlled the industry. This cannot be overstated. Then on January 9, 2007 — exactly 5 years ago today — Steve Jobs took the stage at Macworld to unveil the iPhone. Six months later it was released. While some laughed it offhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXq9NTjEdToat the time, the mobile landscape completely changed. Apple and Google were great
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Saya benci android...karena racunnya kuat sekali. On Jan 11, 2012 12:46 PM, Amurwo Wikan amurwowikandr...@gmail.com wrote: Saya benci android... buat saya kecanduan... *benci = benar-benar cinta :D Sent from Nexus S Ice Cream Sandwich CyanogenMod-9 On Jan 11, 2012 1:04 AM, Andika Ikhsan ikhsan.and...@gmail.com wrote: tadi liat twitter ada TT Hate Android ternyata asalnya adalah dari artikel ini.. http://parislemon.com/post/15604811641/why-i-hate-android jujur bahasanya rada njelimet dan ada hubungannya sama sejarah android yg saya sendiri ga paham.. mungkin ada yg bs ngasih penjelasan soal fakta2 yg disebut di artikel ini? *HATE ANDROID* Why do I hate Android? It’s definitely one of the questions I get asked most often these days. And most of those that don’t ask probably assume it’s because I’m an iPhone guy. People see negative take after negative take about the operating system and label me as “unreasonable” or “biased” or worse. I should probably explain. Believe it or not, I actually don’t hate Android. That is to say, I don’t hate the *concept* of Android — in fact, at one point, I loved it. What I hate is what Android has become. And more specifically, what Google has done with Android. Let’s turn back the clock. In 2006, the mobile landscape in the United States was almost unfathomably shitty. Motorola’s RAZR had been the top-selling device for something ridiculous like five straight years — and the only thing that didn’t suck about it was its physical size. The carriers completely controlled the industry. This cannot be overstated. Then on January 9, 2007 — exactly 5 years ago today — Steve Jobs took the stage at Macworld to unveil the iPhone. Six months later it was released. While some laughed it off http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXq9NTjEdToat the time, the mobile landscape completely changed. Apple and Google were great allies at the time. They united over a common enemy: Microsoft. Then-Google CEO Eric Schmidt was even on Apple’s board of directors. Google was a huge part of original iPhone OS (before it was called iOS): Google Maps, YouTube, Google Search, etc. Apple could have launched the iPhone without Google, but it wouldn’t have been as good. And if they had to do something like build their own maps from scratch, it would have taken longer. A few months later, on November 5, 2007, Google teamed up with many of the big players in the mobile/telecom space to announce the Open Handset Alliance. At the time it sounded promising, but perhaps it should have been the first warning sign. The first product of this partnership: Android. A beta was released, but it would take almost another year before the software was actually ready to go. The initial Android prototypeshttp://gizmodo.com/334909/google-android-prototype-in-the-wild?tag=gadgetsandroidhardwareinthewildlooked a lot like BlackBerry devices (both in hardware and software). But the first device (the G1) and OS actually released was more of a cross between a T-Mobile Sidekick (which Android head Andy Rubin helped create while still a co-founder at Dangerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger_%28company%29) and the iPhone OS. In hindsight, Steve Jobs was clearly not happy about thishttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/steve-jobs-android-a-stolen-product/61504and the subsequent iPhone-ification of Android. But great artists steal, etc, etc. The only thing I didn’t like about Android at the time was that it was a *shitty* copy of the iPhone. It was something you couldn’t pay me to use. And most people seemed to feel the same way. Jobs probably didn’t say much at the time because he didn’t have to. The market was saying it. Time went on and it was pretty clear that despite the major players involved in the OHA, Android wasn’t getting a lot of traction. Meanwhile, the iPhone, after a price-cut and addition of 3G technology, was soaring. So Google did the logical thing, they went to see Verizon, the largest U.S. carrier, and struck a dealhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33192558/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/t/verizon-google-android-partnership/#.Twuk997uYug . Remember, Apple still had an agreement with ATT for exclusive iPhone rights in the U.S. at the time. Verizon and Google needed each other. But Google clearly needed Verizon more. This was the first real problem. A deal with the devil was struck. Let’s back up for a second. Even before Android’s launch, Google clearly had big dreams for the mobile space. “Your mobile phone should be free,” Eric Schmidt toldhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15700344/Reuters in late 2006. He envisioned a world in which consumers didn’t have to pay for their mobile phones — advertising (served by Google, naturally) would subsidize the cost. And we’re not talking “free” with a two-year carrier contract. We’re talking *free* free. In the pre-iPhone world this may have sounded like crazy-talk. But
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Saya tidak suka Android tapi saya tidak benci Android. Yang saya benci adalah membeli Android mahal dalam 3 bulan udah keluar versi yang lebih tinggi lagi. Belum sempat aksesoris nongol udah ganti model dan stok aksesoris menumpuk gak laku *lirik soft jacket nexus one yang masih ratusan pcs #sigh Eh kok jadi curcol Trims, Alex | Lex-ON.com The Plaza Semanggi Lt. 2 A101-102 On Jan 11, 2012 1:22 PM, jo juda judadr...@gmail.com wrote: Makanya lucu baca blog dia. Kecewa dari mana? Wong yg berhak kecewa itu orang yg udah pernah berharap, dan dia sama sekali gak pernah harapkan apa2 dari android kecuali jadi lebih buruk setiap hari. Tapi mungkin dia dibayar ya. Gw rasa logis kalo ada orang yg bela dan benci mati-matian terhadap suatu produk krn dia bagian dari kampanye. Yg kasihan yg jd fan boy cuma krn ikut2an. Gak dibayar, capek iya. __ twitter/mytubo/IG: @johjuda fotodroids.net On Jan 11, 2012 10:45 AM, abangkis abang...@gmail.com wrote: Agak ridiculous gak sih ? He's picking Android Promise Now ? MG Siegler itu udah nyerang semua aspek android. Sekarang dia nyerang sesuatu yg sifatnya lebih ke arah politik. Di antara semua Handset Manufacturer/ OS builder. Hanya Google dan Android-nya yg berani mencoba mengubah cara Telco di US ber-operasi. Dan ketika mereka belum berhasil, itu jadi dasarnya dia 'Hate Android', bukannya di dukung malah di jelek2in ? Coba cek artikel-artikel MG Siegler yg lain utk paham sebenarnya dia itu bagaimana. Ada fakta yg menarik sih. Google itu berusaha keras supaya pemilik hp di US itu gak terikat dengan 1 Telco operator. Dan bisa dengan bebas ganti-ganti sim card. Mungkin mereka perlu belajar ke Indonesia kali yah. Udah bertahun-tahun seperti itu di sini :) On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Andi - leo5354 leo5...@se-ven.netwrote: ** Secara garis besar yg saya tangkap dari artikelnya adalah kekecewaan author bahwa konsep awal Google atas dunia mobile lewat platform Android ternyata justru tidak ditepati. Salah satu alasan yg dikemukakan adalah bahwa Eric Schmidt pernah mengatakan bahwa HP seharusnya gratis (layanan advertising Google yg menyediakan subsidi) Tp kenyataannya karena keterbatasan Google sendiri, dimana mereka bukan operator jaringan memaksa Google berkompromi dengan operator sehingga harga handset bukannya jadi murah malah lumayan mahal (contoh yg diberikan adalah Nexus One dgn harga $579) Selain itu soal Net Neutrality dimana menurut author Google yg pada awalnya mendukung konsep itu malah akhirnya berkolaborasi dgn operator Verizon (yg menentang) Secara garis besar opininya memang masih subyektif karena berdasar pendapatnya tp argumennya jelas dan masuk akal walau masih bisa diperdebatkan Paling ngga kita jadi punya perspektif lain atas terminologi open Android sebagai platform To work, to sweat and to struggle is the enjoyment and achievement of life -- *From: * Amer moamer.khad...@gmail.com *Sender: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Date: *Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:06:45 +0700 *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [id-android] WTI - Hate Android blom baca karena bahasa linggis saya jelek. jadi kesimpulannya borok android dan google ada hubungannya dengan open flatform itu gimana om? On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Andi - leo5354 leo5...@se-ven.netwrote: ** Google translate aja bro Artikel ini wajib dibaca oleh mereka yg mengagungkan Android sebagai open platform karena dalam artikel ini beberapa borok Android dan Google dibeberkan secara lugas dan jelas Nice share buat authornya karena membantu kita memandang hal dari suatu perspektif yg jelas dan didukung fakta, bukan asal ngomong tp ngga nyambung To work, to sweat and to struggle is the enjoyment and achievement of life -- *From: * Andika Ikhsan ikhsan.and...@gmail.com *Sender: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:18:49 +0700 *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Subject: *[id-android] WTI - Hate Android tadi liat twitter ada TT Hate Android ternyata asalnya adalah dari artikel ini.. http://parislemon.com/post/15604811641/why-i-hate-android jujur bahasanya rada njelimet dan ada hubungannya sama sejarah android yg saya sendiri ga paham.. mungkin ada yg bs ngasih penjelasan soal fakta2 yg disebut di artikel ini? *HATE ANDROID* Why do I hate Android? It’s definitely one of the questions I get asked most often these days. And most of those that don’t ask probably assume it’s because I’m an iPhone guy. People see negative take after negative take about the operating system and label me as “unreasonable” or “biased” or worse. I should probably explain. Believe it or not, I actually don’t hate Android. That is to say, I don’t hate the *concept* of Android — in fact, at one point, I loved it. What I hate is what Android has become
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+1..I really hate android;) *diketik dari Dell Streak dan dikirim lewat wifi tethering evo 4g On Jan 11, 2012 9:29 AM, Renner Chen rc.milest...@gmail.com wrote: ** Indeed... I also do hate android! ;-) sol --rc Sent from my 9850 via EVDO rev. B Network. -- *From: * Andika Ikhsan ikhsan.and...@gmail.com *Sender: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:18:49 +0700 *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Subject: *[id-android] WTI - Hate Android tadi liat twitter ada TT Hate Android ternyata asalnya adalah dari artikel ini.. http://parislemon.com/post/15604811641/why-i-hate-android jujur bahasanya rada njelimet dan ada hubungannya sama sejarah android yg saya sendiri ga paham.. mungkin ada yg bs ngasih penjelasan soal fakta2 yg disebut di artikel ini? *HATE ANDROID* Why do I hate Android? It’s definitely one of the questions I get asked most often these days. And most of those that don’t ask probably assume it’s because I’m an iPhone guy. People see negative take after negative take about the operating system and label me as “unreasonable” or “biased” or worse. I should probably explain. Believe it or not, I actually don’t hate Android. That is to say, I don’t hate the *concept* of Android — in fact, at one point, I loved it. What I hate is what Android has become. And more specifically, what Google has done with Android. Let’s turn back the clock. In 2006, the mobile landscape in the United States was almost unfathomably shitty. Motorola’s RAZR had been the top-selling device for something ridiculous like five straight years — and the only thing that didn’t suck about it was its physical size. The carriers completely controlled the industry. This cannot be overstated. Then on January 9, 2007 — exactly 5 years ago today — Steve Jobs took the stage at Macworld to unveil the iPhone. Six months later it was released. While some laughed it off http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXq9NTjEdTo at the time, the mobile landscape completely changed. Apple and Google were great allies at the time. They united over a common enemy: Microsoft. Then-Google CEO Eric Schmidt was even on Apple’s board of directors. Google was a huge part of original iPhone OS (before it was called iOS): Google Maps, YouTube, Google Search, etc. Apple could have launched the iPhone without Google, but it wouldn’t have been as good. And if they had to do something like build their own maps from scratch, it would have taken longer. A few months later, on November 5, 2007, Google teamed up with many of the big players in the mobile/telecom space to announce the Open Handset Alliance. At the time it sounded promising, but perhaps it should have been the first warning sign. The first product of this partnership: Android. A beta was released, but it would take almost another year before the software was actually ready to go. The initial Android prototypeshttp://gizmodo.com/334909/google-android-prototype-in-the-wild?tag=gadgetsandroidhardwareinthewildlooked a lot like BlackBerry devices (both in hardware and software). But the first device (the G1) and OS actually released was more of a cross between a T-Mobile Sidekick (which Android head Andy Rubin helped create while still a co-founder at Dangerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger_%28company%29) and the iPhone OS. In hindsight, Steve Jobs was clearly not happy about thishttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/steve-jobs-android-a-stolen-product/61504and the subsequent iPhone-ification of Android. But great artists steal, etc, etc. The only thing I didn’t like about Android at the time was that it was a *shitty* copy of the iPhone. It was something you couldn’t pay me to use. And most people seemed to feel the same way. Jobs probably didn’t say much at the time because he didn’t have to. The market was saying it. Time went on and it was pretty clear that despite the major players involved in the OHA, Android wasn’t getting a lot of traction. Meanwhile, the iPhone, after a price-cut and addition of 3G technology, was soaring. So Google did the logical thing, they went to see Verizon, the largest U.S. carrier, and struck a dealhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33192558/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/t/verizon-google-android-partnership/#.Twuk997uYug . Remember, Apple still had an agreement with ATT for exclusive iPhone rights in the U.S. at the time. Verizon and Google needed each other. But Google clearly needed Verizon more. This was the first real problem. A deal with the devil was struck. Let’s back up for a second. Even before Android’s launch, Google clearly had big dreams for the mobile space. “Your mobile phone should be free,” Eric Schmidt toldhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15700344/Reuters in late 2006. He envisioned a world in which consumers didn’t have to pay for their mobile phones — advertising
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+1 bro iggy... On Jan 11, 2012 2:43 PM, Iggy Budiman H. iggy.budiman.andr...@gmail.com wrote: Kalau saya membaca : Eric Schmidt pernah mengatakan bahwa HP seharusnya gratis (layanan advertising Google yg menyediakan subsidi) Yang saya tangkap itu sekedar harapan dari Google, dan bukan berupa janji. Kalau sampai penulis kecewa, yang bloon ya dia sendiri karena nggak ada janji disitu. Yang saya lebih nggak ngerti hubungannya antara kekecewaan akan HP gratis dan ke-open-an Android dimana ya? Untuk soal terminology open dari Android, apakah memang ada masalah? Saya sendiri melihat kalau semua orang bisa dan boleh saja bikin handset Android, bikin ROM Android, bikin aplikasi Android dan semua itu dipersilahkan oleh Google. Dari situ rasanya sudah open banget deh. Apa masih ada kurangnya yah? salam -iggy On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Andi - leo5354 leo5...@se-ven.netwrote: ** Secara garis besar yg saya tangkap dari artikelnya adalah kekecewaan author bahwa konsep awal Google atas dunia mobile lewat platform Android ternyata justru tidak ditepati. Salah satu alasan yg dikemukakan adalah bahwa Eric Schmidt pernah mengatakan bahwa HP seharusnya gratis (layanan advertising Google yg menyediakan subsidi) Tp kenyataannya karena keterbatasan Google sendiri, dimana mereka bukan operator jaringan memaksa Google berkompromi dengan operator sehingga harga handset bukannya jadi murah malah lumayan mahal (contoh yg diberikan adalah Nexus One dgn harga $579) Selain itu soal Net Neutrality dimana menurut author Google yg pada awalnya mendukung konsep itu malah akhirnya berkolaborasi dgn operator Verizon (yg menentang) Secara garis besar opininya memang masih subyektif karena berdasar pendapatnya tp argumennya jelas dan masuk akal walau masih bisa diperdebatkan Paling ngga kita jadi punya perspektif lain atas terminologi open Android sebagai platform To work, to sweat and to struggle is the enjoyment and achievement of life -- *From: * Amer moamer.khad...@gmail.com *Sender: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Date: *Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:06:45 +0700 *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [id-android] WTI - Hate Android blom baca karena bahasa linggis saya jelek. jadi kesimpulannya borok android dan google ada hubungannya dengan open flatform itu gimana om? On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Andi - leo5354 leo5...@se-ven.netwrote: ** Google translate aja bro Artikel ini wajib dibaca oleh mereka yg mengagungkan Android sebagai open platform karena dalam artikel ini beberapa borok Android dan Google dibeberkan secara lugas dan jelas Nice share buat authornya karena membantu kita memandang hal dari suatu perspektif yg jelas dan didukung fakta, bukan asal ngomong tp ngga nyambung To work, to sweat and to struggle is the enjoyment and achievement of life -- *From: * Andika Ikhsan ikhsan.and...@gmail.com *Sender: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:18:49 +0700 *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Subject: *[id-android] WTI - Hate Android tadi liat twitter ada TT Hate Android ternyata asalnya adalah dari artikel ini.. http://parislemon.com/post/15604811641/why-i-hate-android jujur bahasanya rada njelimet dan ada hubungannya sama sejarah android yg saya sendiri ga paham.. mungkin ada yg bs ngasih penjelasan soal fakta2 yg disebut di artikel ini? *HATE ANDROID* Why do I hate Android? It’s definitely one of the questions I get asked most often these days. And most of those that don’t ask probably assume it’s because I’m an iPhone guy. People see negative take after negative take about the operating system and label me as “unreasonable” or “biased” or worse. I should probably explain. Believe it or not, I actually don’t hate Android. That is to say, I don’t hate the *concept* of Android — in fact, at one point, I loved it. What I hate is what Android has become. And more specifically, what Google has done with Android. Let’s turn back the clock. In 2006, the mobile landscape in the United States was almost unfathomably shitty. Motorola’s RAZR had been the top-selling device for something ridiculous like five straight years — and the only thing that didn’t suck about it was its physical size. The carriers completely controlled the industry. This cannot be overstated. Then on January 9, 2007 — exactly 5 years ago today — Steve Jobs took the stage at Macworld to unveil the iPhone. Six months later it was released. While some laughed it offhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXq9NTjEdToat the time, the mobile landscape completely changed. Apple and Google were great allies at the time. They united over a common enemy: Microsoft. Then-Google CEO Eric Schmidt was even on Apple’s board of directors. Google was a huge part of original iPhone OS (before it was called iOS
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Saya juga benci android khususon Moto RAZR yg tak kunjung turun harga.(oot) Dulu ada yg pernah bilang android is just another symbian, apa akan jadi kenyataan? -- Indonesian Android Community Join: http://forum.android.or.id === Download Aplikasi Kompas versi Digital dan Keren https://market.android.com/details?id=com.kompas.android.kec -- Gunakan Paket Unlimited Data XL Mobile Broadband http://www.xl.co.id/XLInternet/BroadbandInternet PING'S Mobile - Plaza Semanggi E-mail: i...@pings-mobile.com Ph. 021-25536796 Toko EceranShop - BEC Bandung E-mail: wi...@eceranshop.com Ph. 0815-56599888 === Aturan Jualan dan Kloteran ID-Android http://goo.gl/YBN21
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balik lagi aja deh mending ke usernya. kita kan end user. semua hak kita mau pake atau gak. masalah gituan biarkan perusahaan yang ngatur(dan tuhan tentunya). *kabooorrr On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Andi - leo5354 leo5...@se-ven.net wrote: ** Makanya saya bilang argumennya bisa diperdebatkan lagi Ha..ha..ha..ha..ha To work, to sweat and to struggle is the enjoyment and achievement of life -- *From: * Iggy Budiman H. iggy.budiman.andr...@gmail.com *Sender: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Date: *Wed, 11 Jan 2012 14:43:17 +0700 *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [id-android] WTI - Hate Android Kalau saya membaca : Eric Schmidt pernah mengatakan bahwa HP seharusnya gratis (layanan advertising Google yg menyediakan subsidi) Yang saya tangkap itu sekedar harapan dari Google, dan bukan berupa janji. Kalau sampai penulis kecewa, yang bloon ya dia sendiri karena nggak ada janji disitu. Yang saya lebih nggak ngerti hubungannya antara kekecewaan akan HP gratis dan ke-open-an Android dimana ya? Untuk soal terminology open dari Android, apakah memang ada masalah? Saya sendiri melihat kalau semua orang bisa dan boleh saja bikin handset Android, bikin ROM Android, bikin aplikasi Android dan semua itu dipersilahkan oleh Google. Dari situ rasanya sudah open banget deh. Apa masih ada kurangnya yah? salam -iggy On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Andi - leo5354 leo5...@se-ven.netwrote: ** Secara garis besar yg saya tangkap dari artikelnya adalah kekecewaan author bahwa konsep awal Google atas dunia mobile lewat platform Android ternyata justru tidak ditepati. Salah satu alasan yg dikemukakan adalah bahwa Eric Schmidt pernah mengatakan bahwa HP seharusnya gratis (layanan advertising Google yg menyediakan subsidi) Tp kenyataannya karena keterbatasan Google sendiri, dimana mereka bukan operator jaringan memaksa Google berkompromi dengan operator sehingga harga handset bukannya jadi murah malah lumayan mahal (contoh yg diberikan adalah Nexus One dgn harga $579) Selain itu soal Net Neutrality dimana menurut author Google yg pada awalnya mendukung konsep itu malah akhirnya berkolaborasi dgn operator Verizon (yg menentang) Secara garis besar opininya memang masih subyektif karena berdasar pendapatnya tp argumennya jelas dan masuk akal walau masih bisa diperdebatkan Paling ngga kita jadi punya perspektif lain atas terminologi open Android sebagai platform To work, to sweat and to struggle is the enjoyment and achievement of life -- *From: * Amer moamer.khad...@gmail.com *Sender: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Date: *Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:06:45 +0700 *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [id-android] WTI - Hate Android blom baca karena bahasa linggis saya jelek. jadi kesimpulannya borok android dan google ada hubungannya dengan open flatform itu gimana om? On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Andi - leo5354 leo5...@se-ven.netwrote: ** Google translate aja bro Artikel ini wajib dibaca oleh mereka yg mengagungkan Android sebagai open platform karena dalam artikel ini beberapa borok Android dan Google dibeberkan secara lugas dan jelas Nice share buat authornya karena membantu kita memandang hal dari suatu perspektif yg jelas dan didukung fakta, bukan asal ngomong tp ngga nyambung To work, to sweat and to struggle is the enjoyment and achievement of life -- *From: * Andika Ikhsan ikhsan.and...@gmail.com *Sender: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:18:49 +0700 *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Subject: *[id-android] WTI - Hate Android tadi liat twitter ada TT Hate Android ternyata asalnya adalah dari artikel ini.. http://parislemon.com/post/15604811641/why-i-hate-android jujur bahasanya rada njelimet dan ada hubungannya sama sejarah android yg saya sendiri ga paham.. mungkin ada yg bs ngasih penjelasan soal fakta2 yg disebut di artikel ini? *HATE ANDROID* Why do I hate Android? It’s definitely one of the questions I get asked most often these days. And most of those that don’t ask probably assume it’s because I’m an iPhone guy. People see negative take after negative take about the operating system and label me as “unreasonable” or “biased” or worse. I should probably explain. Believe it or not, I actually don’t hate Android. That is to say, I don’t hate the *concept* of Android — in fact, at one point, I loved it. What I hate is what Android has become. And more specifically, what Google has done with Android. Let’s turn back the clock. In 2006, the mobile landscape in the United States was almost unfathomably shitty. Motorola’s RAZR had been the top-selling device for something ridiculous like five straight years — and the only thing that didn’t suck about it was its physical
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Kalo saya bacanya, masalahnya jauh dari sekedar bundling android dengan operator, tapi juga gimana google demi memperbesar pasar android, mengorbankan prinsip do no evil-nya dengan mendukung usulan aturan *net-neutrality* yg diajukan verizon yg gak mungkin netral karena verizon sendiri adalah operator. Regards Galeshka -- for those who speak knows nothing and those who know says nothing http://galeshka.wordpress.com http://www.plurk.com/galeshka http://www.twitter.com/galeshka http://www.facebook.com/shinte.galeshka -- Indonesian Android Community Join: http://forum.android.or.id === Download Aplikasi Kompas versi Digital dan Keren https://market.android.com/details?id=com.kompas.android.kec -- Gunakan Paket Unlimited Data XL Mobile Broadband http://www.xl.co.id/XLInternet/BroadbandInternet PING'S Mobile - Plaza Semanggi E-mail: i...@pings-mobile.com Ph. 021-25536796 Toko EceranShop - BEC Bandung E-mail: wi...@eceranshop.com Ph. 0815-56599888 === Aturan Jualan dan Kloteran ID-Android http://goo.gl/YBN21
[id-android] WTI - Hate Android
tadi liat twitter ada TT Hate Android ternyata asalnya adalah dari artikel ini.. http://parislemon.com/post/15604811641/why-i-hate-android jujur bahasanya rada njelimet dan ada hubungannya sama sejarah android yg saya sendiri ga paham.. mungkin ada yg bs ngasih penjelasan soal fakta2 yg disebut di artikel ini? *HATE ANDROID* Why do I hate Android? It’s definitely one of the questions I get asked most often these days. And most of those that don’t ask probably assume it’s because I’m an iPhone guy. People see negative take after negative take about the operating system and label me as “unreasonable” or “biased” or worse. I should probably explain. Believe it or not, I actually don’t hate Android. That is to say, I don’t hate the *concept* of Android — in fact, at one point, I loved it. What I hate is what Android has become. And more specifically, what Google has done with Android. Let’s turn back the clock. In 2006, the mobile landscape in the United States was almost unfathomably shitty. Motorola’s RAZR had been the top-selling device for something ridiculous like five straight years — and the only thing that didn’t suck about it was its physical size. The carriers completely controlled the industry. This cannot be overstated. Then on January 9, 2007 — exactly 5 years ago today — Steve Jobs took the stage at Macworld to unveil the iPhone. Six months later it was released. While some laughed it off http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXq9NTjEdTo at the time, the mobile landscape completely changed. Apple and Google were great allies at the time. They united over a common enemy: Microsoft. Then-Google CEO Eric Schmidt was even on Apple’s board of directors. Google was a huge part of original iPhone OS (before it was called iOS): Google Maps, YouTube, Google Search, etc. Apple could have launched the iPhone without Google, but it wouldn’t have been as good. And if they had to do something like build their own maps from scratch, it would have taken longer. A few months later, on November 5, 2007, Google teamed up with many of the big players in the mobile/telecom space to announce the Open Handset Alliance. At the time it sounded promising, but perhaps it should have been the first warning sign. The first product of this partnership: Android. A beta was released, but it would take almost another year before the software was actually ready to go. The initial Android prototypeshttp://gizmodo.com/334909/google-android-prototype-in-the-wild?tag=gadgetsandroidhardwareinthewildlooked a lot like BlackBerry devices (both in hardware and software). But the first device (the G1) and OS actually released was more of a cross between a T-Mobile Sidekick (which Android head Andy Rubin helped create while still a co-founder at Dangerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger_%28company%29) and the iPhone OS. In hindsight, Steve Jobs was clearly not happy about thishttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/steve-jobs-android-a-stolen-product/61504and the subsequent iPhone-ification of Android. But great artists steal, etc, etc. The only thing I didn’t like about Android at the time was that it was a *shitty* copy of the iPhone. It was something you couldn’t pay me to use. And most people seemed to feel the same way. Jobs probably didn’t say much at the time because he didn’t have to. The market was saying it. Time went on and it was pretty clear that despite the major players involved in the OHA, Android wasn’t getting a lot of traction. Meanwhile, the iPhone, after a price-cut and addition of 3G technology, was soaring. So Google did the logical thing, they went to see Verizon, the largest U.S. carrier, and struck a dealhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33192558/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/t/verizon-google-android-partnership/#.Twuk997uYug . Remember, Apple still had an agreement with ATT for exclusive iPhone rights in the U.S. at the time. Verizon and Google needed each other. But Google clearly needed Verizon more. This was the first real problem. A deal with the devil was struck. Let’s back up for a second. Even before Android’s launch, Google clearly had big dreams for the mobile space. “Your mobile phone should be free,” Eric Schmidt toldhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15700344/Reuters in late 2006. He envisioned a world in which consumers didn’t have to pay for their mobile phones — advertising (served by Google, naturally) would subsidize the cost. And we’re not talking “free” with a two-year carrier contract. We’re talking *free* free. In the pre-iPhone world this may have sounded like crazy-talk. But remember, as an Apple board member and having purchased Android for Google in 2005, Schmidt knew what was coming down the pipe. He absolutely intended to disrupt the mobile market. But again, the initial releases of Android simply didn’t have the traction needed to come close to fulfilling Schmidt’s (and Google’s) dream. So deals with the carriers had to be made. Still, Google hung on to the hope of a free phone. That
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Google translate aja bro Artikel ini wajib dibaca oleh mereka yg mengagungkan Android sebagai open platform karena dalam artikel ini beberapa borok Android dan Google dibeberkan secara lugas dan jelas Nice share buat authornya karena membantu kita memandang hal dari suatu perspektif yg jelas dan didukung fakta, bukan asal ngomong tp ngga nyambung To work, to sweat and to struggle is the enjoyment and achievement of life -Original Message- From: Andika Ikhsan ikhsan.and...@gmail.com Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:18:49 To: id-android@googlegroups.com Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com Subject: [id-android] WTI - Hate Android tadi liat twitter ada TT Hate Android ternyata asalnya adalah dari artikel ini.. http://parislemon.com/post/15604811641/why-i-hate-android jujur bahasanya rada njelimet dan ada hubungannya sama sejarah android yg saya sendiri ga paham.. mungkin ada yg bs ngasih penjelasan soal fakta2 yg disebut di artikel ini? *HATE ANDROID* Why do I hate Android? It’s definitely one of the questions I get asked most often these days. And most of those that don’t ask probably assume it’s because I’m an iPhone guy. People see negative take after negative take about the operating system and label me as “unreasonable” or “biased” or worse. I should probably explain. Believe it or not, I actually don’t hate Android. That is to say, I don’t hate the *concept* of Android — in fact, at one point, I loved it. What I hate is what Android has become. And more specifically, what Google has done with Android. Let’s turn back the clock. In 2006, the mobile landscape in the United States was almost unfathomably shitty. Motorola’s RAZR had been the top-selling device for something ridiculous like five straight years — and the only thing that didn’t suck about it was its physical size. The carriers completely controlled the industry. This cannot be overstated. Then on January 9, 2007 — exactly 5 years ago today — Steve Jobs took the stage at Macworld to unveil the iPhone. Six months later it was released. While some laughed it off http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXq9NTjEdTo at the time, the mobile landscape completely changed. Apple and Google were great allies at the time. They united over a common enemy: Microsoft. Then-Google CEO Eric Schmidt was even on Apple’s board of directors. Google was a huge part of original iPhone OS (before it was called iOS): Google Maps, YouTube, Google Search, etc. Apple could have launched the iPhone without Google, but it wouldn’t have been as good. And if they had to do something like build their own maps from scratch, it would have taken longer. A few months later, on November 5, 2007, Google teamed up with many of the big players in the mobile/telecom space to announce the Open Handset Alliance. At the time it sounded promising, but perhaps it should have been the first warning sign. The first product of this partnership: Android. A beta was released, but it would take almost another year before the software was actually ready to go. The initial Android prototypeshttp://gizmodo.com/334909/google-android-prototype-in-the-wild?tag=gadgetsandroidhardwareinthewildlooked a lot like BlackBerry devices (both in hardware and software). But the first device (the G1) and OS actually released was more of a cross between a T-Mobile Sidekick (which Android head Andy Rubin helped create while still a co-founder at Dangerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger_%28company%29) and the iPhone OS. In hindsight, Steve Jobs was clearly not happy about thishttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/steve-jobs-android-a-stolen-product/61504and the subsequent iPhone-ification of Android. But great artists steal, etc, etc. The only thing I didn’t like about Android at the time was that it was a *shitty* copy of the iPhone. It was something you couldn’t pay me to use. And most people seemed to feel the same way. Jobs probably didn’t say much at the time because he didn’t have to. The market was saying it. Time went on and it was pretty clear that despite the major players involved in the OHA, Android wasn’t getting a lot of traction. Meanwhile, the iPhone, after a price-cut and addition of 3G technology, was soaring. So Google did the logical thing, they went to see Verizon, the largest U.S. carrier, and struck a dealhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33192558/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/t/verizon-google-android-partnership/#.Twuk997uYug . Remember, Apple still had an agreement with ATT for exclusive iPhone rights in the U.S. at the time. Verizon and Google needed each other. But Google clearly needed Verizon more. This was the first real problem. A deal with the devil was struck. Let’s back up for a second. Even before Android’s launch, Google clearly had big dreams for the mobile space. “Your mobile phone should be free,” Eric Schmidt toldhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15700344/Reuters in late 2006. He envisioned a world in which consumers didn’t have
Re: [id-android] WTI - Hate Android
Nice reading In the end Ga ada yang semua bagus Ga ada yang semua buruk On Jan 11, 2012 7:26 AM, Andi - leo5354 leo5...@se-ven.net wrote: ** Google translate aja bro Artikel ini wajib dibaca oleh mereka yg mengagungkan Android sebagai open platform karena dalam artikel ini beberapa borok Android dan Google dibeberkan secara lugas dan jelas Nice share buat authornya karena membantu kita memandang hal dari suatu perspektif yg jelas dan didukung fakta, bukan asal ngomong tp ngga nyambung To work, to sweat and to struggle is the enjoyment and achievement of life -- *From: * Andika Ikhsan ikhsan.and...@gmail.com *Sender: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:18:49 +0700 *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Subject: *[id-android] WTI - Hate Android tadi liat twitter ada TT Hate Android ternyata asalnya adalah dari artikel ini.. http://parislemon.com/post/15604811641/why-i-hate-android jujur bahasanya rada njelimet dan ada hubungannya sama sejarah android yg saya sendiri ga paham.. mungkin ada yg bs ngasih penjelasan soal fakta2 yg disebut di artikel ini? *HATE ANDROID* Why do I hate Android? It’s definitely one of the questions I get asked most often these days. And most of those that don’t ask probably assume it’s because I’m an iPhone guy. People see negative take after negative take about the operating system and label me as “unreasonable” or “biased” or worse. I should probably explain. Believe it or not, I actually don’t hate Android. That is to say, I don’t hate the *concept* of Android — in fact, at one point, I loved it. What I hate is what Android has become. And more specifically, what Google has done with Android. Let’s turn back the clock. In 2006, the mobile landscape in the United States was almost unfathomably shitty. Motorola’s RAZR had been the top-selling device for something ridiculous like five straight years — and the only thing that didn’t suck about it was its physical size. The carriers completely controlled the industry. This cannot be overstated. Then on January 9, 2007 — exactly 5 years ago today — Steve Jobs took the stage at Macworld to unveil the iPhone. Six months later it was released. While some laughed it off http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXq9NTjEdTo at the time, the mobile landscape completely changed. Apple and Google were great allies at the time. They united over a common enemy: Microsoft. Then-Google CEO Eric Schmidt was even on Apple’s board of directors. Google was a huge part of original iPhone OS (before it was called iOS): Google Maps, YouTube, Google Search, etc. Apple could have launched the iPhone without Google, but it wouldn’t have been as good. And if they had to do something like build their own maps from scratch, it would have taken longer. A few months later, on November 5, 2007, Google teamed up with many of the big players in the mobile/telecom space to announce the Open Handset Alliance. At the time it sounded promising, but perhaps it should have been the first warning sign. The first product of this partnership: Android. A beta was released, but it would take almost another year before the software was actually ready to go. The initial Android prototypeshttp://gizmodo.com/334909/google-android-prototype-in-the-wild?tag=gadgetsandroidhardwareinthewildlooked a lot like BlackBerry devices (both in hardware and software). But the first device (the G1) and OS actually released was more of a cross between a T-Mobile Sidekick (which Android head Andy Rubin helped create while still a co-founder at Dangerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger_%28company%29) and the iPhone OS. In hindsight, Steve Jobs was clearly not happy about thishttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/steve-jobs-android-a-stolen-product/61504and the subsequent iPhone-ification of Android. But great artists steal, etc, etc. The only thing I didn’t like about Android at the time was that it was a *shitty* copy of the iPhone. It was something you couldn’t pay me to use. And most people seemed to feel the same way. Jobs probably didn’t say much at the time because he didn’t have to. The market was saying it. Time went on and it was pretty clear that despite the major players involved in the OHA, Android wasn’t getting a lot of traction. Meanwhile, the iPhone, after a price-cut and addition of 3G technology, was soaring. So Google did the logical thing, they went to see Verizon, the largest U.S. carrier, and struck a dealhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33192558/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/t/verizon-google-android-partnership/#.Twuk997uYug . Remember, Apple still had an agreement with ATT for exclusive iPhone rights in the U.S. at the time. Verizon and Google needed each other. But Google clearly needed Verizon more. This was the first real problem. A deal with the devil was struck. Let’s back up for a second
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Itu semuanya hanya opini orang2 saja. Memang di dunia internetkan kita bebas bicara apa aja. Intinya jangan mengagungkan sesuatu yg dimana itu ciptaan manusia. Gak ada yg sempurna, pasti ada kelebihan dan kekurangan. *sekali lagi email saya ini juga hanya opini :-d Regards, Bayu Seno Adji http://bayusenoadji.com http://rnbwebhosting.com -Original Message- From: Andika Ikhsan ikhsan.and...@gmail.com Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:18:49 To: id-android@googlegroups.com Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com Subject: [id-android] WTI - Hate Android tadi liat twitter ada TT Hate Android ternyata asalnya adalah dari artikel ini.. http://parislemon.com/post/15604811641/why-i-hate-android jujur bahasanya rada njelimet dan ada hubungannya sama sejarah android yg saya sendiri ga paham.. mungkin ada yg bs ngasih penjelasan soal fakta2 yg disebut di artikel ini? *HATE ANDROID* Why do I hate Android? It’s definitely one of the questions I get asked most often these days. And most of those that don’t ask probably assume it’s because I’m an iPhone guy. People see negative take after negative take about the operating system and label me as “unreasonable” or “biased” or worse. I should probably explain. Believe it or not, I actually don’t hate Android. That is to say, I don’t hate the *concept* of Android — in fact, at one point, I loved it. What I hate is what Android has become. And more specifically, what Google has done with Android. Let’s turn back the clock. In 2006, the mobile landscape in the United States was almost unfathomably shitty. Motorola’s RAZR had been the top-selling device for something ridiculous like five straight years — and the only thing that didn’t suck about it was its physical size. The carriers completely controlled the industry. This cannot be overstated. Then on January 9, 2007 — exactly 5 years ago today — Steve Jobs took the stage at Macworld to unveil the iPhone. Six months later it was released. While some laughed it off http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXq9NTjEdTo at the time, the mobile landscape completely changed. Apple and Google were great allies at the time. They united over a common enemy: Microsoft. Then-Google CEO Eric Schmidt was even on Apple’s board of directors. Google was a huge part of original iPhone OS (before it was called iOS): Google Maps, YouTube, Google Search, etc. Apple could have launched the iPhone without Google, but it wouldn’t have been as good. And if they had to do something like build their own maps from scratch, it would have taken longer. A few months later, on November 5, 2007, Google teamed up with many of the big players in the mobile/telecom space to announce the Open Handset Alliance. At the time it sounded promising, but perhaps it should have been the first warning sign. The first product of this partnership: Android. A beta was released, but it would take almost another year before the software was actually ready to go. The initial Android prototypeshttp://gizmodo.com/334909/google-android-prototype-in-the-wild?tag=gadgetsandroidhardwareinthewildlooked a lot like BlackBerry devices (both in hardware and software). But the first device (the G1) and OS actually released was more of a cross between a T-Mobile Sidekick (which Android head Andy Rubin helped create while still a co-founder at Dangerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger_%28company%29) and the iPhone OS. In hindsight, Steve Jobs was clearly not happy about thishttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/steve-jobs-android-a-stolen-product/61504and the subsequent iPhone-ification of Android. But great artists steal, etc, etc. The only thing I didn’t like about Android at the time was that it was a *shitty* copy of the iPhone. It was something you couldn’t pay me to use. And most people seemed to feel the same way. Jobs probably didn’t say much at the time because he didn’t have to. The market was saying it. Time went on and it was pretty clear that despite the major players involved in the OHA, Android wasn’t getting a lot of traction. Meanwhile, the iPhone, after a price-cut and addition of 3G technology, was soaring. So Google did the logical thing, they went to see Verizon, the largest U.S. carrier, and struck a dealhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33192558/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/t/verizon-google-android-partnership/#.Twuk997uYug . Remember, Apple still had an agreement with ATT for exclusive iPhone rights in the U.S. at the time. Verizon and Google needed each other. But Google clearly needed Verizon more. This was the first real problem. A deal with the devil was struck. Let’s back up for a second. Even before Android’s launch, Google clearly had big dreams for the mobile space. “Your mobile phone should be free,” Eric Schmidt toldhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15700344/Reuters in late 2006. He envisioned a world in which consumers didn’t have to pay for their mobile phones — advertising (served by Google, naturally) would
Re: [id-android] WTI - Hate Android
blom baca karena bahasa linggis saya jelek. jadi kesimpulannya borok android dan google ada hubungannya dengan open flatform itu gimana om? On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Andi - leo5354 leo5...@se-ven.net wrote: ** Google translate aja bro Artikel ini wajib dibaca oleh mereka yg mengagungkan Android sebagai open platform karena dalam artikel ini beberapa borok Android dan Google dibeberkan secara lugas dan jelas Nice share buat authornya karena membantu kita memandang hal dari suatu perspektif yg jelas dan didukung fakta, bukan asal ngomong tp ngga nyambung To work, to sweat and to struggle is the enjoyment and achievement of life -- *From: * Andika Ikhsan ikhsan.and...@gmail.com *Sender: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:18:49 +0700 *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Subject: *[id-android] WTI - Hate Android tadi liat twitter ada TT Hate Android ternyata asalnya adalah dari artikel ini.. http://parislemon.com/post/15604811641/why-i-hate-android jujur bahasanya rada njelimet dan ada hubungannya sama sejarah android yg saya sendiri ga paham.. mungkin ada yg bs ngasih penjelasan soal fakta2 yg disebut di artikel ini? *HATE ANDROID* Why do I hate Android? It’s definitely one of the questions I get asked most often these days. And most of those that don’t ask probably assume it’s because I’m an iPhone guy. People see negative take after negative take about the operating system and label me as “unreasonable” or “biased” or worse. I should probably explain. Believe it or not, I actually don’t hate Android. That is to say, I don’t hate the *concept* of Android — in fact, at one point, I loved it. What I hate is what Android has become. And more specifically, what Google has done with Android. Let’s turn back the clock. In 2006, the mobile landscape in the United States was almost unfathomably shitty. Motorola’s RAZR had been the top-selling device for something ridiculous like five straight years — and the only thing that didn’t suck about it was its physical size. The carriers completely controlled the industry. This cannot be overstated. Then on January 9, 2007 — exactly 5 years ago today — Steve Jobs took the stage at Macworld to unveil the iPhone. Six months later it was released. While some laughed it off http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXq9NTjEdTo at the time, the mobile landscape completely changed. Apple and Google were great allies at the time. They united over a common enemy: Microsoft. Then-Google CEO Eric Schmidt was even on Apple’s board of directors. Google was a huge part of original iPhone OS (before it was called iOS): Google Maps, YouTube, Google Search, etc. Apple could have launched the iPhone without Google, but it wouldn’t have been as good. And if they had to do something like build their own maps from scratch, it would have taken longer. A few months later, on November 5, 2007, Google teamed up with many of the big players in the mobile/telecom space to announce the Open Handset Alliance. At the time it sounded promising, but perhaps it should have been the first warning sign. The first product of this partnership: Android. A beta was released, but it would take almost another year before the software was actually ready to go. The initial Android prototypeshttp://gizmodo.com/334909/google-android-prototype-in-the-wild?tag=gadgetsandroidhardwareinthewildlooked a lot like BlackBerry devices (both in hardware and software). But the first device (the G1) and OS actually released was more of a cross between a T-Mobile Sidekick (which Android head Andy Rubin helped create while still a co-founder at Dangerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger_%28company%29) and the iPhone OS. In hindsight, Steve Jobs was clearly not happy about thishttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/steve-jobs-android-a-stolen-product/61504and the subsequent iPhone-ification of Android. But great artists steal, etc, etc. The only thing I didn’t like about Android at the time was that it was a *shitty* copy of the iPhone. It was something you couldn’t pay me to use. And most people seemed to feel the same way. Jobs probably didn’t say much at the time because he didn’t have to. The market was saying it. Time went on and it was pretty clear that despite the major players involved in the OHA, Android wasn’t getting a lot of traction. Meanwhile, the iPhone, after a price-cut and addition of 3G technology, was soaring. So Google did the logical thing, they went to see Verizon, the largest U.S. carrier, and struck a dealhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33192558/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/t/verizon-google-android-partnership/#.Twuk997uYug . Remember, Apple still had an agreement with ATT for exclusive iPhone rights in the U.S. at the time. Verizon and Google needed each other. But Google clearly needed Verizon more. This was the first
Re: [id-android] WTI - Hate Android
Secara garis besar yg saya tangkap dari artikelnya adalah kekecewaan author bahwa konsep awal Google atas dunia mobile lewat platform Android ternyata justru tidak ditepati. Salah satu alasan yg dikemukakan adalah bahwa Eric Schmidt pernah mengatakan bahwa HP seharusnya gratis (layanan advertising Google yg menyediakan subsidi) Tp kenyataannya karena keterbatasan Google sendiri, dimana mereka bukan operator jaringan memaksa Google berkompromi dengan operator sehingga harga handset bukannya jadi murah malah lumayan mahal (contoh yg diberikan adalah Nexus One dgn harga $579) Selain itu soal Net Neutrality dimana menurut author Google yg pada awalnya mendukung konsep itu malah akhirnya berkolaborasi dgn operator Verizon (yg menentang) Secara garis besar opininya memang masih subyektif karena berdasar pendapatnya tp argumennya jelas dan masuk akal walau masih bisa diperdebatkan Paling ngga kita jadi punya perspektif lain atas terminologi open Android sebagai platform To work, to sweat and to struggle is the enjoyment and achievement of life -Original Message- From: Amer moamer.khad...@gmail.com Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:06:45 To: id-android@googlegroups.com Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [id-android] WTI - Hate Android blom baca karena bahasa linggis saya jelek. jadi kesimpulannya borok android dan google ada hubungannya dengan open flatform itu gimana om? On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Andi - leo5354 leo5...@se-ven.net wrote: ** Google translate aja bro Artikel ini wajib dibaca oleh mereka yg mengagungkan Android sebagai open platform karena dalam artikel ini beberapa borok Android dan Google dibeberkan secara lugas dan jelas Nice share buat authornya karena membantu kita memandang hal dari suatu perspektif yg jelas dan didukung fakta, bukan asal ngomong tp ngga nyambung To work, to sweat and to struggle is the enjoyment and achievement of life -- *From: * Andika Ikhsan ikhsan.and...@gmail.com *Sender: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:18:49 +0700 *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Subject: *[id-android] WTI - Hate Android tadi liat twitter ada TT Hate Android ternyata asalnya adalah dari artikel ini.. http://parislemon.com/post/15604811641/why-i-hate-android jujur bahasanya rada njelimet dan ada hubungannya sama sejarah android yg saya sendiri ga paham.. mungkin ada yg bs ngasih penjelasan soal fakta2 yg disebut di artikel ini? *HATE ANDROID* Why do I hate Android? It’s definitely one of the questions I get asked most often these days. And most of those that don’t ask probably assume it’s because I’m an iPhone guy. People see negative take after negative take about the operating system and label me as “unreasonable” or “biased” or worse. I should probably explain. Believe it or not, I actually don’t hate Android. That is to say, I don’t hate the *concept* of Android — in fact, at one point, I loved it. What I hate is what Android has become. And more specifically, what Google has done with Android. Let’s turn back the clock. In 2006, the mobile landscape in the United States was almost unfathomably shitty. Motorola’s RAZR had been the top-selling device for something ridiculous like five straight years — and the only thing that didn’t suck about it was its physical size. The carriers completely controlled the industry. This cannot be overstated. Then on January 9, 2007 — exactly 5 years ago today — Steve Jobs took the stage at Macworld to unveil the iPhone. Six months later it was released. While some laughed it off http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXq9NTjEdTo at the time, the mobile landscape completely changed. Apple and Google were great allies at the time. They united over a common enemy: Microsoft. Then-Google CEO Eric Schmidt was even on Apple’s board of directors. Google was a huge part of original iPhone OS (before it was called iOS): Google Maps, YouTube, Google Search, etc. Apple could have launched the iPhone without Google, but it wouldn’t have been as good. And if they had to do something like build their own maps from scratch, it would have taken longer. A few months later, on November 5, 2007, Google teamed up with many of the big players in the mobile/telecom space to announce the Open Handset Alliance. At the time it sounded promising, but perhaps it should have been the first warning sign. The first product of this partnership: Android. A beta was released, but it would take almost another year before the software was actually ready to go. The initial Android prototypeshttp://gizmodo.com/334909/google-android-prototype-in-the-wild?tag=gadgetsandroidhardwareinthewildlooked a lot like BlackBerry devices (both in hardware and software). But the first device (the G1) and OS actually released was more of a cross between a T-Mobile Sidekick (which
Re: [id-android] WTI - Hate Android
Indeed... I also do hate android! ;-) sol --rc Sent from my 9850 via EVDO rev. B Network. -Original Message- From: Andika Ikhsan ikhsan.and...@gmail.com Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:18:49 To: id-android@googlegroups.com Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com Subject: [id-android] WTI - Hate Android tadi liat twitter ada TT Hate Android ternyata asalnya adalah dari artikel ini.. http://parislemon.com/post/15604811641/why-i-hate-android jujur bahasanya rada njelimet dan ada hubungannya sama sejarah android yg saya sendiri ga paham.. mungkin ada yg bs ngasih penjelasan soal fakta2 yg disebut di artikel ini? *HATE ANDROID* Why do I hate Android? It’s definitely one of the questions I get asked most often these days. And most of those that don’t ask probably assume it’s because I’m an iPhone guy. People see negative take after negative take about the operating system and label me as “unreasonable” or “biased” or worse. I should probably explain. Believe it or not, I actually don’t hate Android. That is to say, I don’t hate the *concept* of Android — in fact, at one point, I loved it. What I hate is what Android has become. And more specifically, what Google has done with Android. Let’s turn back the clock. In 2006, the mobile landscape in the United States was almost unfathomably shitty. Motorola’s RAZR had been the top-selling device for something ridiculous like five straight years — and the only thing that didn’t suck about it was its physical size. The carriers completely controlled the industry. This cannot be overstated. Then on January 9, 2007 — exactly 5 years ago today — Steve Jobs took the stage at Macworld to unveil the iPhone. Six months later it was released. While some laughed it off http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXq9NTjEdTo at the time, the mobile landscape completely changed. Apple and Google were great allies at the time. They united over a common enemy: Microsoft. Then-Google CEO Eric Schmidt was even on Apple’s board of directors. Google was a huge part of original iPhone OS (before it was called iOS): Google Maps, YouTube, Google Search, etc. Apple could have launched the iPhone without Google, but it wouldn’t have been as good. And if they had to do something like build their own maps from scratch, it would have taken longer. A few months later, on November 5, 2007, Google teamed up with many of the big players in the mobile/telecom space to announce the Open Handset Alliance. At the time it sounded promising, but perhaps it should have been the first warning sign. The first product of this partnership: Android. A beta was released, but it would take almost another year before the software was actually ready to go. The initial Android prototypeshttp://gizmodo.com/334909/google-android-prototype-in-the-wild?tag=gadgetsandroidhardwareinthewildlooked a lot like BlackBerry devices (both in hardware and software). But the first device (the G1) and OS actually released was more of a cross between a T-Mobile Sidekick (which Android head Andy Rubin helped create while still a co-founder at Dangerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger_%28company%29) and the iPhone OS. In hindsight, Steve Jobs was clearly not happy about thishttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/steve-jobs-android-a-stolen-product/61504and the subsequent iPhone-ification of Android. But great artists steal, etc, etc. The only thing I didn’t like about Android at the time was that it was a *shitty* copy of the iPhone. It was something you couldn’t pay me to use. And most people seemed to feel the same way. Jobs probably didn’t say much at the time because he didn’t have to. The market was saying it. Time went on and it was pretty clear that despite the major players involved in the OHA, Android wasn’t getting a lot of traction. Meanwhile, the iPhone, after a price-cut and addition of 3G technology, was soaring. So Google did the logical thing, they went to see Verizon, the largest U.S. carrier, and struck a dealhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33192558/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/t/verizon-google-android-partnership/#.Twuk997uYug . Remember, Apple still had an agreement with ATT for exclusive iPhone rights in the U.S. at the time. Verizon and Google needed each other. But Google clearly needed Verizon more. This was the first real problem. A deal with the devil was struck. Let’s back up for a second. Even before Android’s launch, Google clearly had big dreams for the mobile space. “Your mobile phone should be free,” Eric Schmidt toldhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15700344/Reuters in late 2006. He envisioned a world in which consumers didn’t have to pay for their mobile phones — advertising (served by Google, naturally) would subsidize the cost. And we’re not talking “free” with a two-year carrier contract. We’re talking *free* free. In the pre-iPhone world this may have sounded like crazy-talk. But remember, as an Apple board member and having purchased Android for Google
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OoO gitu toh... #geleng2masihbinggung On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Renner Chen rc.milest...@gmail.com wrote: ** Indeed... I also do hate android! ;-) sol --rc Sent from my 9850 via EVDO rev. B Network. -- *From: * Andika Ikhsan ikhsan.and...@gmail.com *Sender: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:18:49 +0700 *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Subject: *[id-android] WTI - Hate Android tadi liat twitter ada TT Hate Android ternyata asalnya adalah dari artikel ini.. http://parislemon.com/post/15604811641/why-i-hate-android jujur bahasanya rada njelimet dan ada hubungannya sama sejarah android yg saya sendiri ga paham.. mungkin ada yg bs ngasih penjelasan soal fakta2 yg disebut di artikel ini? *HATE ANDROID* Why do I hate Android? It’s definitely one of the questions I get asked most often these days. And most of those that don’t ask probably assume it’s because I’m an iPhone guy. People see negative take after negative take about the operating system and label me as “unreasonable” or “biased” or worse. I should probably explain. Believe it or not, I actually don’t hate Android. That is to say, I don’t hate the *concept* of Android — in fact, at one point, I loved it. What I hate is what Android has become. And more specifically, what Google has done with Android. Let’s turn back the clock. In 2006, the mobile landscape in the United States was almost unfathomably shitty. Motorola’s RAZR had been the top-selling device for something ridiculous like five straight years — and the only thing that didn’t suck about it was its physical size. The carriers completely controlled the industry. This cannot be overstated. Then on January 9, 2007 — exactly 5 years ago today — Steve Jobs took the stage at Macworld to unveil the iPhone. Six months later it was released. While some laughed it off http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXq9NTjEdTo at the time, the mobile landscape completely changed. Apple and Google were great allies at the time. They united over a common enemy: Microsoft. Then-Google CEO Eric Schmidt was even on Apple’s board of directors. Google was a huge part of original iPhone OS (before it was called iOS): Google Maps, YouTube, Google Search, etc. Apple could have launched the iPhone without Google, but it wouldn’t have been as good. And if they had to do something like build their own maps from scratch, it would have taken longer. A few months later, on November 5, 2007, Google teamed up with many of the big players in the mobile/telecom space to announce the Open Handset Alliance. At the time it sounded promising, but perhaps it should have been the first warning sign. The first product of this partnership: Android. A beta was released, but it would take almost another year before the software was actually ready to go. The initial Android prototypeshttp://gizmodo.com/334909/google-android-prototype-in-the-wild?tag=gadgetsandroidhardwareinthewildlooked a lot like BlackBerry devices (both in hardware and software). But the first device (the G1) and OS actually released was more of a cross between a T-Mobile Sidekick (which Android head Andy Rubin helped create while still a co-founder at Dangerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger_%28company%29) and the iPhone OS. In hindsight, Steve Jobs was clearly not happy about thishttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/steve-jobs-android-a-stolen-product/61504and the subsequent iPhone-ification of Android. But great artists steal, etc, etc. The only thing I didn’t like about Android at the time was that it was a *shitty* copy of the iPhone. It was something you couldn’t pay me to use. And most people seemed to feel the same way. Jobs probably didn’t say much at the time because he didn’t have to. The market was saying it. Time went on and it was pretty clear that despite the major players involved in the OHA, Android wasn’t getting a lot of traction. Meanwhile, the iPhone, after a price-cut and addition of 3G technology, was soaring. So Google did the logical thing, they went to see Verizon, the largest U.S. carrier, and struck a dealhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33192558/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/t/verizon-google-android-partnership/#.Twuk997uYug . Remember, Apple still had an agreement with ATT for exclusive iPhone rights in the U.S. at the time. Verizon and Google needed each other. But Google clearly needed Verizon more. This was the first real problem. A deal with the devil was struck. Let’s back up for a second. Even before Android’s launch, Google clearly had big dreams for the mobile space. “Your mobile phone should be free,” Eric Schmidt toldhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15700344/Reuters in late 2006. He envisioned a world in which consumers didn’t have to pay for their mobile phones — advertising (served by Google, naturally) would subsidize the cost
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Agak ridiculous gak sih ? He's picking Android Promise Now ? MG Siegler itu udah nyerang semua aspek android. Sekarang dia nyerang sesuatu yg sifatnya lebih ke arah politik. Di antara semua Handset Manufacturer/ OS builder. Hanya Google dan Android-nya yg berani mencoba mengubah cara Telco di US ber-operasi. Dan ketika mereka belum berhasil, itu jadi dasarnya dia 'Hate Android', bukannya di dukung malah di jelek2in ? Coba cek artikel-artikel MG Siegler yg lain utk paham sebenarnya dia itu bagaimana. Ada fakta yg menarik sih. Google itu berusaha keras supaya pemilik hp di US itu gak terikat dengan 1 Telco operator. Dan bisa dengan bebas ganti-ganti sim card. Mungkin mereka perlu belajar ke Indonesia kali yah. Udah bertahun-tahun seperti itu di sini :) On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Andi - leo5354 leo5...@se-ven.net wrote: ** Secara garis besar yg saya tangkap dari artikelnya adalah kekecewaan author bahwa konsep awal Google atas dunia mobile lewat platform Android ternyata justru tidak ditepati. Salah satu alasan yg dikemukakan adalah bahwa Eric Schmidt pernah mengatakan bahwa HP seharusnya gratis (layanan advertising Google yg menyediakan subsidi) Tp kenyataannya karena keterbatasan Google sendiri, dimana mereka bukan operator jaringan memaksa Google berkompromi dengan operator sehingga harga handset bukannya jadi murah malah lumayan mahal (contoh yg diberikan adalah Nexus One dgn harga $579) Selain itu soal Net Neutrality dimana menurut author Google yg pada awalnya mendukung konsep itu malah akhirnya berkolaborasi dgn operator Verizon (yg menentang) Secara garis besar opininya memang masih subyektif karena berdasar pendapatnya tp argumennya jelas dan masuk akal walau masih bisa diperdebatkan Paling ngga kita jadi punya perspektif lain atas terminologi open Android sebagai platform To work, to sweat and to struggle is the enjoyment and achievement of life -- *From: * Amer moamer.khad...@gmail.com *Sender: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Date: *Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:06:45 +0700 *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [id-android] WTI - Hate Android blom baca karena bahasa linggis saya jelek. jadi kesimpulannya borok android dan google ada hubungannya dengan open flatform itu gimana om? On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Andi - leo5354 leo5...@se-ven.netwrote: ** Google translate aja bro Artikel ini wajib dibaca oleh mereka yg mengagungkan Android sebagai open platform karena dalam artikel ini beberapa borok Android dan Google dibeberkan secara lugas dan jelas Nice share buat authornya karena membantu kita memandang hal dari suatu perspektif yg jelas dan didukung fakta, bukan asal ngomong tp ngga nyambung To work, to sweat and to struggle is the enjoyment and achievement of life -- *From: * Andika Ikhsan ikhsan.and...@gmail.com *Sender: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:18:49 +0700 *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Subject: *[id-android] WTI - Hate Android tadi liat twitter ada TT Hate Android ternyata asalnya adalah dari artikel ini.. http://parislemon.com/post/15604811641/why-i-hate-android jujur bahasanya rada njelimet dan ada hubungannya sama sejarah android yg saya sendiri ga paham.. mungkin ada yg bs ngasih penjelasan soal fakta2 yg disebut di artikel ini? *HATE ANDROID* Why do I hate Android? It’s definitely one of the questions I get asked most often these days. And most of those that don’t ask probably assume it’s because I’m an iPhone guy. People see negative take after negative take about the operating system and label me as “unreasonable” or “biased” or worse. I should probably explain. Believe it or not, I actually don’t hate Android. That is to say, I don’t hate the *concept* of Android — in fact, at one point, I loved it. What I hate is what Android has become. And more specifically, what Google has done with Android. Let’s turn back the clock. In 2006, the mobile landscape in the United States was almost unfathomably shitty. Motorola’s RAZR had been the top-selling device for something ridiculous like five straight years — and the only thing that didn’t suck about it was its physical size. The carriers completely controlled the industry. This cannot be overstated. Then on January 9, 2007 — exactly 5 years ago today — Steve Jobs took the stage at Macworld to unveil the iPhone. Six months later it was released. While some laughed it off http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXq9NTjEdToat the time, the mobile landscape completely changed. Apple and Google were great allies at the time. They united over a common enemy: Microsoft. Then-Google CEO Eric Schmidt was even on Apple’s board of directors. Google was a huge part of original iPhone OS (before it was called iOS): Google Maps, YouTube, Google Search, etc. Apple could have launched
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cmiiw, saya taunya keuntungan dengan open flatform itu adalah pabrikan hp manapun (tidak ekslusif) bisa pake itu OS tanpa harus bayar (atau sedikit) sehingga biaya produksi dan pada akhirnya harga jual lebih murah. maaf lagi gak ngikutin harga, 579$ itu saingannya iphone berapa dan harganya berapa ya kalau masih pada inget? On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Andi - leo5354 leo5...@se-ven.net wrote: ** Secara garis besar yg saya tangkap dari artikelnya adalah kekecewaan author bahwa konsep awal Google atas dunia mobile lewat platform Android ternyata justru tidak ditepati. Salah satu alasan yg dikemukakan adalah bahwa Eric Schmidt pernah mengatakan bahwa HP seharusnya gratis (layanan advertising Google yg menyediakan subsidi) Tp kenyataannya karena keterbatasan Google sendiri, dimana mereka bukan operator jaringan memaksa Google berkompromi dengan operator sehingga harga handset bukannya jadi murah malah lumayan mahal (contoh yg diberikan adalah Nexus One dgn harga $579) Selain itu soal Net Neutrality dimana menurut author Google yg pada awalnya mendukung konsep itu malah akhirnya berkolaborasi dgn operator Verizon (yg menentang) Secara garis besar opininya memang masih subyektif karena berdasar pendapatnya tp argumennya jelas dan masuk akal walau masih bisa diperdebatkan Paling ngga kita jadi punya perspektif lain atas terminologi open Android sebagai platform To work, to sweat and to struggle is the enjoyment and achievement of life -- *From: * Amer moamer.khad...@gmail.com *Sender: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Date: *Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:06:45 +0700 *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [id-android] WTI - Hate Android blom baca karena bahasa linggis saya jelek. jadi kesimpulannya borok android dan google ada hubungannya dengan open flatform itu gimana om? On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Andi - leo5354 leo5...@se-ven.netwrote: ** Google translate aja bro Artikel ini wajib dibaca oleh mereka yg mengagungkan Android sebagai open platform karena dalam artikel ini beberapa borok Android dan Google dibeberkan secara lugas dan jelas Nice share buat authornya karena membantu kita memandang hal dari suatu perspektif yg jelas dan didukung fakta, bukan asal ngomong tp ngga nyambung To work, to sweat and to struggle is the enjoyment and achievement of life -- *From: * Andika Ikhsan ikhsan.and...@gmail.com *Sender: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:18:49 +0700 *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Subject: *[id-android] WTI - Hate Android tadi liat twitter ada TT Hate Android ternyata asalnya adalah dari artikel ini.. http://parislemon.com/post/15604811641/why-i-hate-android jujur bahasanya rada njelimet dan ada hubungannya sama sejarah android yg saya sendiri ga paham.. mungkin ada yg bs ngasih penjelasan soal fakta2 yg disebut di artikel ini? *HATE ANDROID* Why do I hate Android? It’s definitely one of the questions I get asked most often these days. And most of those that don’t ask probably assume it’s because I’m an iPhone guy. People see negative take after negative take about the operating system and label me as “unreasonable” or “biased” or worse. I should probably explain. Believe it or not, I actually don’t hate Android. That is to say, I don’t hate the *concept* of Android — in fact, at one point, I loved it. What I hate is what Android has become. And more specifically, what Google has done with Android. Let’s turn back the clock. In 2006, the mobile landscape in the United States was almost unfathomably shitty. Motorola’s RAZR had been the top-selling device for something ridiculous like five straight years — and the only thing that didn’t suck about it was its physical size. The carriers completely controlled the industry. This cannot be overstated. Then on January 9, 2007 — exactly 5 years ago today — Steve Jobs took the stage at Macworld to unveil the iPhone. Six months later it was released. While some laughed it off http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXq9NTjEdToat the time, the mobile landscape completely changed. Apple and Google were great allies at the time. They united over a common enemy: Microsoft. Then-Google CEO Eric Schmidt was even on Apple’s board of directors. Google was a huge part of original iPhone OS (before it was called iOS): Google Maps, YouTube, Google Search, etc. Apple could have launched the iPhone without Google, but it wouldn’t have been as good. And if they had to do something like build their own maps from scratch, it would have taken longer. A few months later, on November 5, 2007, Google teamed up with many of the big players in the mobile/telecom space to announce the Open Handset Alliance. At the time it sounded promising, but perhaps it should have been the first warning sign. The first product
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+1 as Nokia’s CEO Stephen Elop said: “The premise of a true open software platform may be where Android started, but it’s not where Android is going,” Sent from my Nexus S On Jan 11, 2012 7:26 AM, Andi - leo5354 leo5...@se-ven.net wrote: ** Google translate aja bro Artikel ini wajib dibaca oleh mereka yg mengagungkan Android sebagai open platform karena dalam artikel ini beberapa borok Android dan Google dibeberkan secara lugas dan jelas Nice share buat authornya karena membantu kita memandang hal dari suatu perspektif yg jelas dan didukung fakta, bukan asal ngomong tp ngga nyambung To work, to sweat and to struggle is the enjoyment and achievement of life -- *From: * Andika Ikhsan ikhsan.and...@gmail.com *Sender: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:18:49 +0700 *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Subject: *[id-android] WTI - Hate Android tadi liat twitter ada TT Hate Android ternyata asalnya adalah dari artikel ini.. http://parislemon.com/post/15604811641/why-i-hate-android jujur bahasanya rada njelimet dan ada hubungannya sama sejarah android yg saya sendiri ga paham.. mungkin ada yg bs ngasih penjelasan soal fakta2 yg disebut di artikel ini? *HATE ANDROID* Why do I hate Android? It’s definitely one of the questions I get asked most often these days. And most of those that don’t ask probably assume it’s because I’m an iPhone guy. People see negative take after negative take about the operating system and label me as “unreasonable” or “biased” or worse. I should probably explain. Believe it or not, I actually don’t hate Android. That is to say, I don’t hate the *concept* of Android — in fact, at one point, I loved it. What I hate is what Android has become. And more specifically, what Google has done with Android. Let’s turn back the clock. In 2006, the mobile landscape in the United States was almost unfathomably shitty. Motorola’s RAZR had been the top-selling device for something ridiculous like five straight years — and the only thing that didn’t suck about it was its physical size. The carriers completely controlled the industry. This cannot be overstated. Then on January 9, 2007 — exactly 5 years ago today — Steve Jobs took the stage at Macworld to unveil the iPhone. Six months later it was released. While some laughed it off http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXq9NTjEdTo at the time, the mobile landscape completely changed. Apple and Google were great allies at the time. They united over a common enemy: Microsoft. Then-Google CEO Eric Schmidt was even on Apple’s board of directors. Google was a huge part of original iPhone OS (before it was called iOS): Google Maps, YouTube, Google Search, etc. Apple could have launched the iPhone without Google, but it wouldn’t have been as good. And if they had to do something like build their own maps from scratch, it would have taken longer. A few months later, on November 5, 2007, Google teamed up with many of the big players in the mobile/telecom space to announce the Open Handset Alliance. At the time it sounded promising, but perhaps it should have been the first warning sign. The first product of this partnership: Android. A beta was released, but it would take almost another year before the software was actually ready to go. The initial Android prototypeshttp://gizmodo.com/334909/google-android-prototype-in-the-wild?tag=gadgetsandroidhardwareinthewildlooked a lot like BlackBerry devices (both in hardware and software). But the first device (the G1) and OS actually released was more of a cross between a T-Mobile Sidekick (which Android head Andy Rubin helped create while still a co-founder at Dangerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger_%28company%29) and the iPhone OS. In hindsight, Steve Jobs was clearly not happy about thishttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/steve-jobs-android-a-stolen-product/61504and the subsequent iPhone-ification of Android. But great artists steal, etc, etc. The only thing I didn’t like about Android at the time was that it was a *shitty* copy of the iPhone. It was something you couldn’t pay me to use. And most people seemed to feel the same way. Jobs probably didn’t say much at the time because he didn’t have to. The market was saying it. Time went on and it was pretty clear that despite the major players involved in the OHA, Android wasn’t getting a lot of traction. Meanwhile, the iPhone, after a price-cut and addition of 3G technology, was soaring. So Google did the logical thing, they went to see Verizon, the largest U.S. carrier, and struck a dealhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33192558/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/t/verizon-google-android-partnership/#.Twuk997uYug . Remember, Apple still had an agreement with ATT for exclusive iPhone rights in the U.S. at the time. Verizon and Google needed each other. But Google clearly needed Verizon
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+100 sol Sent from my iPhone On 11 Jan 2012, at 07:50, Owen Samuel owen.sam...@gmail.com wrote: Nice reading In the end Ga ada yang semua bagus Ga ada yang semua buruk On Jan 11, 2012 7:26 AM, Andi - leo5354 leo5...@se-ven.net wrote: Google translate aja bro Artikel ini wajib dibaca oleh mereka yg mengagungkan Android sebagai open platform karena dalam artikel ini beberapa borok Android dan Google dibeberkan secara lugas dan jelas Nice share buat authornya karena membantu kita memandang hal dari suatu perspektif yg jelas dan didukung fakta, bukan asal ngomong tp ngga nyambung To work, to sweat and to struggle is the enjoyment and achievement of life From: Andika Ikhsan ikhsan.and...@gmail.com Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:18:49 +0700 To: id-android@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: id-android@googlegroups.com Subject: [id-android] WTI - Hate Android tadi liat twitter ada TT Hate Android ternyata asalnya adalah dari artikel ini.. http://parislemon.com/post/15604811641/why-i-hate-android jujur bahasanya rada njelimet dan ada hubungannya sama sejarah android yg saya sendiri ga paham.. mungkin ada yg bs ngasih penjelasan soal fakta2 yg disebut di artikel ini? HATE ANDROID Why do I hate Android? It’s definitely one of the questions I get asked most often these days. And most of those that don’t ask probably assume it’s because I’m an iPhone guy. People see negative take after negative take about the operating system and label me as “unreasonable” or “biased” or worse. I should probably explain. Believe it or not, I actually don’t hate Android. That is to say, I don’t hate the concept of Android — in fact, at one point, I loved it. What I hate is what Android has become. And more specifically, what Google has done with Android. Let’s turn back the clock. In 2006, the mobile landscape in the United States was almost unfathomably shitty. Motorola’s RAZR had been the top-selling device for something ridiculous like five straight years — and the only thing that didn’t suck about it was its physical size. The carriers completely controlled the industry. This cannot be overstated. Then on January 9, 2007 — exactly 5 years ago today — Steve Jobs took the stage at Macworld to unveil the iPhone. Six months later it was released. While some laughed it off at the time, the mobile landscape completely changed. Apple and Google were great allies at the time. They united over a common enemy: Microsoft. Then-Google CEO Eric Schmidt was even on Apple’s board of directors. Google was a huge part of original iPhone OS (before it was called iOS): Google Maps, YouTube, Google Search, etc. Apple could have launched the iPhone without Google, but it wouldn’t have been as good. And if they had to do something like build their own maps from scratch, it would have taken longer. A few months later, on November 5, 2007, Google teamed up with many of the big players in the mobile/telecom space to announce the Open Handset Alliance. At the time it sounded promising, but perhaps it should have been the first warning sign. The first product of this partnership: Android. A beta was released, but it would take almost another year before the software was actually ready to go. The initial Android prototypes looked a lot like BlackBerry devices (both in hardware and software). But the first device (the G1) and OS actually released was more of a cross between a T-Mobile Sidekick (which Android head Andy Rubin helped create while still a co-founder at Danger) and the iPhone OS. In hindsight, Steve Jobs was clearly not happy about this and the subsequent iPhone-ification of Android. But great artists steal, etc, etc. The only thing I didn’t like about Android at the time was that it was a shitty copy of the iPhone. It was something you couldn’t pay me to use. And most people seemed to feel the same way. Jobs probably didn’t say much at the time because he didn’t have to. The market was saying it. Time went on and it was pretty clear that despite the major players involved in the OHA, Android wasn’t getting a lot of traction. Meanwhile, the iPhone, after a price-cut and addition of 3G technology, was soaring. So Google did the logical thing, they went to see Verizon, the largest U.S. carrier, and struck a deal. Remember, Apple still had an agreement with ATT for exclusive iPhone rights in the U.S. at the time. Verizon and Google needed each other. But Google clearly needed Verizon more. This was the first real problem. A deal with the devil was struck. Let’s back up for a second. Even before Android’s launch, Google clearly had big dreams for the mobile space. “Your mobile phone should be free,” Eric Schmidt told Reuters in late 2006. He envisioned a world in which consumers didn’t have to pay for their mobile phones — advertising (served by Google
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Intinya tugas suci android ternyata kalah juga oleh keserakahan operator. Alih-alih melawan operator, sekarang android malah yg paling disukai oleh operator karena justru paling banyak menyumbang. On 11 Jan 2012, at 09:06, Amer moamer.khad...@gmail.com wrote: blom baca karena bahasa linggis saya jelek. jadi kesimpulannya borok android dan google ada hubungannya dengan open flatform itu gimana om? On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Andi - leo5354 leo5...@se-ven.net wrote: Google translate aja bro Artikel ini wajib dibaca oleh mereka yg mengagungkan Android sebagai open platform karena dalam artikel ini beberapa borok Android dan Google dibeberkan secara lugas dan jelas Nice share buat authornya karena membantu kita memandang hal dari suatu perspektif yg jelas dan didukung fakta, bukan asal ngomong tp ngga nyambung To work, to sweat and to struggle is the enjoyment and achievement of life From: Andika Ikhsan ikhsan.and...@gmail.com Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:18:49 +0700 To: id-android@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: id-android@googlegroups.com Subject: [id-android] WTI - Hate Android tadi liat twitter ada TT Hate Android ternyata asalnya adalah dari artikel ini.. http://parislemon.com/post/15604811641/why-i-hate-android jujur bahasanya rada njelimet dan ada hubungannya sama sejarah android yg saya sendiri ga paham.. mungkin ada yg bs ngasih penjelasan soal fakta2 yg disebut di artikel ini? HATE ANDROID Why do I hate Android? It’s definitely one of the questions I get asked most often these days. And most of those that don’t ask probably assume it’s because I’m an iPhone guy. People see negative take after negative take about the operating system and label me as “unreasonable” or “biased” or worse. I should probably explain. Believe it or not, I actually don’t hate Android. That is to say, I don’t hate the concept of Android — in fact, at one point, I loved it. What I hate is what Android has become. And more specifically, what Google has done with Android. Let’s turn back the clock. In 2006, the mobile landscape in the United States was almost unfathomably shitty. Motorola’s RAZR had been the top-selling device for something ridiculous like five straight years — and the only thing that didn’t suck about it was its physical size. The carriers completely controlled the industry. This cannot be overstated. Then on January 9, 2007 — exactly 5 years ago today — Steve Jobs took the stage at Macworld to unveil the iPhone. Six months later it was released. While some laughed it off at the time, the mobile landscape completely changed. Apple and Google were great allies at the time. They united over a common enemy: Microsoft. Then-Google CEO Eric Schmidt was even on Apple’s board of directors. Google was a huge part of original iPhone OS (before it was called iOS): Google Maps, YouTube, Google Search, etc. Apple could have launched the iPhone without Google, but it wouldn’t have been as good. And if they had to do something like build their own maps from scratch, it would have taken longer. A few months later, on November 5, 2007, Google teamed up with many of the big players in the mobile/telecom space to announce the Open Handset Alliance. At the time it sounded promising, but perhaps it should have been the first warning sign. The first product of this partnership: Android. A beta was released, but it would take almost another year before the software was actually ready to go. The initial Android prototypes looked a lot like BlackBerry devices (both in hardware and software). But the first device (the G1) and OS actually released was more of a cross between a T-Mobile Sidekick (which Android head Andy Rubin helped create while still a co-founder at Danger) and the iPhone OS. In hindsight, Steve Jobs was clearly not happy about this and the subsequent iPhone-ification of Android. But great artists steal, etc, etc. The only thing I didn’t like about Android at the time was that it was a shitty copy of the iPhone. It was something you couldn’t pay me to use. And most people seemed to feel the same way. Jobs probably didn’t say much at the time because he didn’t have to. The market was saying it. Time went on and it was pretty clear that despite the major players involved in the OHA, Android wasn’t getting a lot of traction. Meanwhile, the iPhone, after a price-cut and addition of 3G technology, was soaring. So Google did the logical thing, they went to see Verizon, the largest U.S. carrier, and struck a deal. Remember, Apple still had an agreement with ATT for exclusive iPhone rights in the U.S. at the time. Verizon and Google needed each other. But Google clearly needed Verizon more. This was the first real problem. A deal with the devil was struck. Let’s back up for a second. Even before Android’s launch, Google clearly had
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Kalo artikel ini bener.. Next target setelah Motorola, Google pasti incar perusahaan operator.. Sadis On Jan 11, 2012 8:10 AM, Bayu Seno Adji bayusenoa...@gmail.com wrote: ** Itu semuanya hanya opini orang2 saja. Memang di dunia internetkan kita bebas bicara apa aja. Intinya jangan mengagungkan sesuatu yg dimana itu ciptaan manusia. Gak ada yg sempurna, pasti ada kelebihan dan kekurangan. *sekali lagi email saya ini juga hanya opini :-d Regards, Bayu Seno Adji http://bayusenoadji.com http://rnbwebhosting.com -- *From: * Andika Ikhsan ikhsan.and...@gmail.com *Sender: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:18:49 +0700 *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Subject: *[id-android] WTI - Hate Android tadi liat twitter ada TT Hate Android ternyata asalnya adalah dari artikel ini.. http://parislemon.com/post/15604811641/why-i-hate-android jujur bahasanya rada njelimet dan ada hubungannya sama sejarah android yg saya sendiri ga paham.. mungkin ada yg bs ngasih penjelasan soal fakta2 yg disebut di artikel ini? *HATE ANDROID* Why do I hate Android? It’s definitely one of the questions I get asked most often these days. And most of those that don’t ask probably assume it’s because I’m an iPhone guy. People see negative take after negative take about the operating system and label me as “unreasonable” or “biased” or worse. I should probably explain. Believe it or not, I actually don’t hate Android. That is to say, I don’t hate the *concept* of Android — in fact, at one point, I loved it. What I hate is what Android has become. And more specifically, what Google has done with Android. Let’s turn back the clock. In 2006, the mobile landscape in the United States was almost unfathomably shitty. Motorola’s RAZR had been the top-selling device for something ridiculous like five straight years — and the only thing that didn’t suck about it was its physical size. The carriers completely controlled the industry. This cannot be overstated. Then on January 9, 2007 — exactly 5 years ago today — Steve Jobs took the stage at Macworld to unveil the iPhone. Six months later it was released. While some laughed it off http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXq9NTjEdTo at the time, the mobile landscape completely changed. Apple and Google were great allies at the time. They united over a common enemy: Microsoft. Then-Google CEO Eric Schmidt was even on Apple’s board of directors. Google was a huge part of original iPhone OS (before it was called iOS): Google Maps, YouTube, Google Search, etc. Apple could have launched the iPhone without Google, but it wouldn’t have been as good. And if they had to do something like build their own maps from scratch, it would have taken longer. A few months later, on November 5, 2007, Google teamed up with many of the big players in the mobile/telecom space to announce the Open Handset Alliance. At the time it sounded promising, but perhaps it should have been the first warning sign. The first product of this partnership: Android. A beta was released, but it would take almost another year before the software was actually ready to go. The initial Android prototypeshttp://gizmodo.com/334909/google-android-prototype-in-the-wild?tag=gadgetsandroidhardwareinthewildlooked a lot like BlackBerry devices (both in hardware and software). But the first device (the G1) and OS actually released was more of a cross between a T-Mobile Sidekick (which Android head Andy Rubin helped create while still a co-founder at Dangerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger_%28company%29) and the iPhone OS. In hindsight, Steve Jobs was clearly not happy about thishttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/steve-jobs-android-a-stolen-product/61504and the subsequent iPhone-ification of Android. But great artists steal, etc, etc. The only thing I didn’t like about Android at the time was that it was a *shitty* copy of the iPhone. It was something you couldn’t pay me to use. And most people seemed to feel the same way. Jobs probably didn’t say much at the time because he didn’t have to. The market was saying it. Time went on and it was pretty clear that despite the major players involved in the OHA, Android wasn’t getting a lot of traction. Meanwhile, the iPhone, after a price-cut and addition of 3G technology, was soaring. So Google did the logical thing, they went to see Verizon, the largest U.S. carrier, and struck a dealhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33192558/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/t/verizon-google-android-partnership/#.Twuk997uYug . Remember, Apple still had an agreement with ATT for exclusive iPhone rights in the U.S. at the time. Verizon and Google needed each other. But Google clearly needed Verizon more. This was the first real problem. A deal with the devil was struck. Let’s back up for a second. Even before Android’s launch, Google
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Sepertinya tuntutan zaman yg memaksa ponsel tak jadi gratis. Thanks buat artikelnya, nice info. Ternyata mimpi google yg pertama adalah menjual ponsel murah dengan. Sent from HTC Sensation You are the next sensation On Jan 11, 2012 10:25 AM, Andi - leo5354 leo5...@se-ven.net wrote: ** Secara garis besar yg saya tangkap dari artikelnya adalah kekecewaan author bahwa konsep awal Google atas dunia mobile lewat platform Android ternyata justru tidak ditepati. Salah satu alasan yg dikemukakan adalah bahwa Eric Schmidt pernah mengatakan bahwa HP seharusnya gratis (layanan advertising Google yg menyediakan subsidi) Tp kenyataannya karena keterbatasan Google sendiri, dimana mereka bukan operator jaringan memaksa Google berkompromi dengan operator sehingga harga handset bukannya jadi murah malah lumayan mahal (contoh yg diberikan adalah Nexus One dgn harga $579) Selain itu soal Net Neutrality dimana menurut author Google yg pada awalnya mendukung konsep itu malah akhirnya berkolaborasi dgn operator Verizon (yg menentang) Secara garis besar opininya memang masih subyektif karena berdasar pendapatnya tp argumennya jelas dan masuk akal walau masih bisa diperdebatkan Paling ngga kita jadi punya perspektif lain atas terminologi open Android sebagai platform To work, to sweat and to struggle is the enjoyment and achievement of life -- *From: * Amer moamer.khad...@gmail.com *Sender: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Date: *Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:06:45 +0700 *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [id-android] WTI - Hate Android blom baca karena bahasa linggis saya jelek. jadi kesimpulannya borok android dan google ada hubungannya dengan open flatform itu gimana om? On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Andi - leo5354 leo5...@se-ven.netwrote: ** Google translate aja bro Artikel ini wajib dibaca oleh mereka yg mengagungkan Android sebagai open platform karena dalam artikel ini beberapa borok Android dan Google dibeberkan secara lugas dan jelas Nice share buat authornya karena membantu kita memandang hal dari suatu perspektif yg jelas dan didukung fakta, bukan asal ngomong tp ngga nyambung To work, to sweat and to struggle is the enjoyment and achievement of life -- *From: * Andika Ikhsan ikhsan.and...@gmail.com *Sender: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:18:49 +0700 *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Subject: *[id-android] WTI - Hate Android tadi liat twitter ada TT Hate Android ternyata asalnya adalah dari artikel ini.. http://parislemon.com/post/15604811641/why-i-hate-android jujur bahasanya rada njelimet dan ada hubungannya sama sejarah android yg saya sendiri ga paham.. mungkin ada yg bs ngasih penjelasan soal fakta2 yg disebut di artikel ini? *HATE ANDROID* Why do I hate Android? It’s definitely one of the questions I get asked most often these days. And most of those that don’t ask probably assume it’s because I’m an iPhone guy. People see negative take after negative take about the operating system and label me as “unreasonable” or “biased” or worse. I should probably explain. Believe it or not, I actually don’t hate Android. That is to say, I don’t hate the *concept* of Android — in fact, at one point, I loved it. What I hate is what Android has become. And more specifically, what Google has done with Android. Let’s turn back the clock. In 2006, the mobile landscape in the United States was almost unfathomably shitty. Motorola’s RAZR had been the top-selling device for something ridiculous like five straight years — and the only thing that didn’t suck about it was its physical size. The carriers completely controlled the industry. This cannot be overstated. Then on January 9, 2007 — exactly 5 years ago today — Steve Jobs took the stage at Macworld to unveil the iPhone. Six months later it was released. While some laughed it off http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXq9NTjEdToat the time, the mobile landscape completely changed. Apple and Google were great allies at the time. They united over a common enemy: Microsoft. Then-Google CEO Eric Schmidt was even on Apple’s board of directors. Google was a huge part of original iPhone OS (before it was called iOS): Google Maps, YouTube, Google Search, etc. Apple could have launched the iPhone without Google, but it wouldn’t have been as good. And if they had to do something like build their own maps from scratch, it would have taken longer. A few months later, on November 5, 2007, Google teamed up with many of the big players in the mobile/telecom space to announce the Open Handset Alliance. At the time it sounded promising, but perhaps it should have been the first warning sign. The first product of this partnership: Android. A beta was released, but it would take almost another year before the software was actually
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dengan apa om? 2012/1/11 sasongko Adi sasongko...@gmail.com Sepertinya tuntutan zaman yg memaksa ponsel tak jadi gratis. Thanks buat artikelnya, nice info. Ternyata mimpi google yg pertama adalah menjual ponsel murah dengan. Sent from HTC Sensation You are the next sensation On Jan 11, 2012 10:25 AM, Andi - leo5354 leo5...@se-ven.net wrote: ** Secara garis besar yg saya tangkap dari artikelnya adalah kekecewaan author bahwa konsep awal Google atas dunia mobile lewat platform Android ternyata justru tidak ditepati. Salah satu alasan yg dikemukakan adalah bahwa Eric Schmidt pernah mengatakan bahwa HP seharusnya gratis (layanan advertising Google yg menyediakan subsidi) Tp kenyataannya karena keterbatasan Google sendiri, dimana mereka bukan operator jaringan memaksa Google berkompromi dengan operator sehingga harga handset bukannya jadi murah malah lumayan mahal (contoh yg diberikan adalah Nexus One dgn harga $579) Selain itu soal Net Neutrality dimana menurut author Google yg pada awalnya mendukung konsep itu malah akhirnya berkolaborasi dgn operator Verizon (yg menentang) Secara garis besar opininya memang masih subyektif karena berdasar pendapatnya tp argumennya jelas dan masuk akal walau masih bisa diperdebatkan Paling ngga kita jadi punya perspektif lain atas terminologi open Android sebagai platform To work, to sweat and to struggle is the enjoyment and achievement of life -- *From: * Amer moamer.khad...@gmail.com *Sender: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Date: *Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:06:45 +0700 *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [id-android] WTI - Hate Android blom baca karena bahasa linggis saya jelek. jadi kesimpulannya borok android dan google ada hubungannya dengan open flatform itu gimana om? On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Andi - leo5354 leo5...@se-ven.netwrote: ** Google translate aja bro Artikel ini wajib dibaca oleh mereka yg mengagungkan Android sebagai open platform karena dalam artikel ini beberapa borok Android dan Google dibeberkan secara lugas dan jelas Nice share buat authornya karena membantu kita memandang hal dari suatu perspektif yg jelas dan didukung fakta, bukan asal ngomong tp ngga nyambung To work, to sweat and to struggle is the enjoyment and achievement of life -- *From: * Andika Ikhsan ikhsan.and...@gmail.com *Sender: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:18:49 +0700 *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Subject: *[id-android] WTI - Hate Android tadi liat twitter ada TT Hate Android ternyata asalnya adalah dari artikel ini.. http://parislemon.com/post/15604811641/why-i-hate-android jujur bahasanya rada njelimet dan ada hubungannya sama sejarah android yg saya sendiri ga paham.. mungkin ada yg bs ngasih penjelasan soal fakta2 yg disebut di artikel ini? *HATE ANDROID* Why do I hate Android? It’s definitely one of the questions I get asked most often these days. And most of those that don’t ask probably assume it’s because I’m an iPhone guy. People see negative take after negative take about the operating system and label me as “unreasonable” or “biased” or worse. I should probably explain. Believe it or not, I actually don’t hate Android. That is to say, I don’t hate the *concept* of Android — in fact, at one point, I loved it. What I hate is what Android has become. And more specifically, what Google has done with Android. Let’s turn back the clock. In 2006, the mobile landscape in the United States was almost unfathomably shitty. Motorola’s RAZR had been the top-selling device for something ridiculous like five straight years — and the only thing that didn’t suck about it was its physical size. The carriers completely controlled the industry. This cannot be overstated. Then on January 9, 2007 — exactly 5 years ago today — Steve Jobs took the stage at Macworld to unveil the iPhone. Six months later it was released. While some laughed it offhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXq9NTjEdToat the time, the mobile landscape completely changed. Apple and Google were great allies at the time. They united over a common enemy: Microsoft. Then-Google CEO Eric Schmidt was even on Apple’s board of directors. Google was a huge part of original iPhone OS (before it was called iOS): Google Maps, YouTube, Google Search, etc. Apple could have launched the iPhone without Google, but it wouldn’t have been as good. And if they had to do something like build their own maps from scratch, it would have taken longer. A few months later, on November 5, 2007, Google teamed up with many of the big players in the mobile/telecom space to announce the Open Handset Alliance. At the time it sounded promising, but perhaps it should have been the first warning sign. The first product of this partnership: Android. A beta was released
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I don't care (kayak judul lagunya 2NE1) Dulu pakai WinmoWinpho sekarang Android ntar maybe WeBOS Atau BBX, yang penting HH tersebut bisa memenuhi keperluan dan hasrat oprek hehe, itu yang saya pakai. On Jan 11, 2012 2:04 AM, Andika Ikhsan ikhsan.and...@gmail.com wrote: tadi liat twitter ada TT Hate Android ternyata asalnya adalah dari artikel ini.. http://parislemon.com/post/15604811641/why-i-hate-android jujur bahasanya rada njelimet dan ada hubungannya sama sejarah android yg saya sendiri ga paham.. mungkin ada yg bs ngasih penjelasan soal fakta2 yg disebut di artikel ini? *HATE ANDROID* Why do I hate Android? It’s definitely one of the questions I get asked most often these days. And most of those that don’t ask probably assume it’s because I’m an iPhone guy. People see negative take after negative take about the operating system and label me as “unreasonable” or “biased” or worse. I should probably explain. Believe it or not, I actually don’t hate Android. That is to say, I don’t hate the *concept* of Android — in fact, at one point, I loved it. What I hate is what Android has become. And more specifically, what Google has done with Android. Let’s turn back the clock. In 2006, the mobile landscape in the United States was almost unfathomably shitty. Motorola’s RAZR had been the top-selling device for something ridiculous like five straight years — and the only thing that didn’t suck about it was its physical size. The carriers completely controlled the industry. This cannot be overstated. Then on January 9, 2007 — exactly 5 years ago today — Steve Jobs took the stage at Macworld to unveil the iPhone. Six months later it was released. While some laughed it off http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXq9NTjEdTo at the time, the mobile landscape completely changed. Apple and Google were great allies at the time. They united over a common enemy: Microsoft. Then-Google CEO Eric Schmidt was even on Apple’s board of directors. Google was a huge part of original iPhone OS (before it was called iOS): Google Maps, YouTube, Google Search, etc. Apple could have launched the iPhone without Google, but it wouldn’t have been as good. And if they had to do something like build their own maps from scratch, it would have taken longer. A few months later, on November 5, 2007, Google teamed up with many of the big players in the mobile/telecom space to announce the Open Handset Alliance. At the time it sounded promising, but perhaps it should have been the first warning sign. The first product of this partnership: Android. A beta was released, but it would take almost another year before the software was actually ready to go. The initial Android prototypeshttp://gizmodo.com/334909/google-android-prototype-in-the-wild?tag=gadgetsandroidhardwareinthewildlooked a lot like BlackBerry devices (both in hardware and software). But the first device (the G1) and OS actually released was more of a cross between a T-Mobile Sidekick (which Android head Andy Rubin helped create while still a co-founder at Dangerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger_%28company%29) and the iPhone OS. In hindsight, Steve Jobs was clearly not happy about thishttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/steve-jobs-android-a-stolen-product/61504and the subsequent iPhone-ification of Android. But great artists steal, etc, etc. The only thing I didn’t like about Android at the time was that it was a *shitty* copy of the iPhone. It was something you couldn’t pay me to use. And most people seemed to feel the same way. Jobs probably didn’t say much at the time because he didn’t have to. The market was saying it. Time went on and it was pretty clear that despite the major players involved in the OHA, Android wasn’t getting a lot of traction. Meanwhile, the iPhone, after a price-cut and addition of 3G technology, was soaring. So Google did the logical thing, they went to see Verizon, the largest U.S. carrier, and struck a dealhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33192558/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/t/verizon-google-android-partnership/#.Twuk997uYug . Remember, Apple still had an agreement with ATT for exclusive iPhone rights in the U.S. at the time. Verizon and Google needed each other. But Google clearly needed Verizon more. This was the first real problem. A deal with the devil was struck. Let’s back up for a second. Even before Android’s launch, Google clearly had big dreams for the mobile space. “Your mobile phone should be free,” Eric Schmidt toldhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15700344/Reuters in late 2006. He envisioned a world in which consumers didn’t have to pay for their mobile phones — advertising (served by Google, naturally) would subsidize the cost. And we’re not talking “free” with a two-year carrier contract. We’re talking *free* free. In the pre-iPhone world this may have sounded like crazy-talk. But remember, as an Apple board member and having purchased Android for
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Sekali lagi memang strategi marketing, kalau saya lihat Google ingin jadi tuhan handheld yang sudah didudukung dengan internet yg juga dituhankan oleh google. Just my opinion. Dan semua berlomba lomba menjadi tuhan (penguasa dan pencipta) Sent from HTC Sensation You are the next sensation -- Indonesian Android Community Join: http://forum.android.or.id === Download Aplikasi Kompas versi Digital dan Keren https://market.android.com/details?id=com.kompas.android.kec -- Gunakan Paket Unlimited Data XL Mobile Broadband http://www.xl.co.id/XLInternet/BroadbandInternet PING'S Mobile - Plaza Semanggi E-mail: i...@pings-mobile.com Ph. 021-25536796 Toko EceranShop - BEC Bandung E-mail: wi...@eceranshop.com Ph. 0815-56599888 === Aturan Jualan dan Kloteran ID-Android http://goo.gl/YBN21
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Saya benci android... buat saya kecanduan... *benci = benar-benar cinta :D Sent from Nexus S Ice Cream Sandwich CyanogenMod-9 On Jan 11, 2012 1:04 AM, Andika Ikhsan ikhsan.and...@gmail.com wrote: tadi liat twitter ada TT Hate Android ternyata asalnya adalah dari artikel ini.. http://parislemon.com/post/15604811641/why-i-hate-android jujur bahasanya rada njelimet dan ada hubungannya sama sejarah android yg saya sendiri ga paham.. mungkin ada yg bs ngasih penjelasan soal fakta2 yg disebut di artikel ini? *HATE ANDROID* Why do I hate Android? It’s definitely one of the questions I get asked most often these days. And most of those that don’t ask probably assume it’s because I’m an iPhone guy. People see negative take after negative take about the operating system and label me as “unreasonable” or “biased” or worse. I should probably explain. Believe it or not, I actually don’t hate Android. That is to say, I don’t hate the *concept* of Android — in fact, at one point, I loved it. What I hate is what Android has become. And more specifically, what Google has done with Android. Let’s turn back the clock. In 2006, the mobile landscape in the United States was almost unfathomably shitty. Motorola’s RAZR had been the top-selling device for something ridiculous like five straight years — and the only thing that didn’t suck about it was its physical size. The carriers completely controlled the industry. This cannot be overstated. Then on January 9, 2007 — exactly 5 years ago today — Steve Jobs took the stage at Macworld to unveil the iPhone. Six months later it was released. While some laughed it off http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXq9NTjEdTo at the time, the mobile landscape completely changed. Apple and Google were great allies at the time. They united over a common enemy: Microsoft. Then-Google CEO Eric Schmidt was even on Apple’s board of directors. Google was a huge part of original iPhone OS (before it was called iOS): Google Maps, YouTube, Google Search, etc. Apple could have launched the iPhone without Google, but it wouldn’t have been as good. And if they had to do something like build their own maps from scratch, it would have taken longer. A few months later, on November 5, 2007, Google teamed up with many of the big players in the mobile/telecom space to announce the Open Handset Alliance. At the time it sounded promising, but perhaps it should have been the first warning sign. The first product of this partnership: Android. A beta was released, but it would take almost another year before the software was actually ready to go. The initial Android prototypeshttp://gizmodo.com/334909/google-android-prototype-in-the-wild?tag=gadgetsandroidhardwareinthewildlooked a lot like BlackBerry devices (both in hardware and software). But the first device (the G1) and OS actually released was more of a cross between a T-Mobile Sidekick (which Android head Andy Rubin helped create while still a co-founder at Dangerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger_%28company%29) and the iPhone OS. In hindsight, Steve Jobs was clearly not happy about thishttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/steve-jobs-android-a-stolen-product/61504and the subsequent iPhone-ification of Android. But great artists steal, etc, etc. The only thing I didn’t like about Android at the time was that it was a *shitty* copy of the iPhone. It was something you couldn’t pay me to use. And most people seemed to feel the same way. Jobs probably didn’t say much at the time because he didn’t have to. The market was saying it. Time went on and it was pretty clear that despite the major players involved in the OHA, Android wasn’t getting a lot of traction. Meanwhile, the iPhone, after a price-cut and addition of 3G technology, was soaring. So Google did the logical thing, they went to see Verizon, the largest U.S. carrier, and struck a dealhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33192558/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/t/verizon-google-android-partnership/#.Twuk997uYug . Remember, Apple still had an agreement with ATT for exclusive iPhone rights in the U.S. at the time. Verizon and Google needed each other. But Google clearly needed Verizon more. This was the first real problem. A deal with the devil was struck. Let’s back up for a second. Even before Android’s launch, Google clearly had big dreams for the mobile space. “Your mobile phone should be free,” Eric Schmidt toldhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15700344/Reuters in late 2006. He envisioned a world in which consumers didn’t have to pay for their mobile phones — advertising (served by Google, naturally) would subsidize the cost. And we’re not talking “free” with a two-year carrier contract. We’re talking *free* free. In the pre-iPhone world this may have sounded like crazy-talk. But remember, as an Apple board member and having purchased Android for Google in 2005, Schmidt knew what was coming down the pipe. He
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+1 Sol Regards, Bayu Seno Adji http://bayusenoadji.com http://rnbwebhosting.com -Original Message- From: Amurwo Wikan amurwowikandr...@gmail.com Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 12:46:46 To: id-android@googlegroups.com Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [id-android] WTI - Hate Android Saya benci android... buat saya kecanduan... *benci = benar-benar cinta :D Sent from Nexus S Ice Cream Sandwich CyanogenMod-9 On Jan 11, 2012 1:04 AM, Andika Ikhsan ikhsan.and...@gmail.com wrote: tadi liat twitter ada TT Hate Android ternyata asalnya adalah dari artikel ini.. http://parislemon.com/post/15604811641/why-i-hate-android jujur bahasanya rada njelimet dan ada hubungannya sama sejarah android yg saya sendiri ga paham.. mungkin ada yg bs ngasih penjelasan soal fakta2 yg disebut di artikel ini? *HATE ANDROID* Why do I hate Android? It’s definitely one of the questions I get asked most often these days. And most of those that don’t ask probably assume it’s because I’m an iPhone guy. People see negative take after negative take about the operating system and label me as “unreasonable” or “biased” or worse. I should probably explain. Believe it or not, I actually don’t hate Android. That is to say, I don’t hate the *concept* of Android — in fact, at one point, I loved it. What I hate is what Android has become. And more specifically, what Google has done with Android. Let’s turn back the clock. In 2006, the mobile landscape in the United States was almost unfathomably shitty. Motorola’s RAZR had been the top-selling device for something ridiculous like five straight years — and the only thing that didn’t suck about it was its physical size. The carriers completely controlled the industry. This cannot be overstated. Then on January 9, 2007 — exactly 5 years ago today — Steve Jobs took the stage at Macworld to unveil the iPhone. Six months later it was released. While some laughed it off http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXq9NTjEdTo at the time, the mobile landscape completely changed. Apple and Google were great allies at the time. They united over a common enemy: Microsoft. Then-Google CEO Eric Schmidt was even on Apple’s board of directors. Google was a huge part of original iPhone OS (before it was called iOS): Google Maps, YouTube, Google Search, etc. Apple could have launched the iPhone without Google, but it wouldn’t have been as good. And if they had to do something like build their own maps from scratch, it would have taken longer. A few months later, on November 5, 2007, Google teamed up with many of the big players in the mobile/telecom space to announce the Open Handset Alliance. At the time it sounded promising, but perhaps it should have been the first warning sign. The first product of this partnership: Android. A beta was released, but it would take almost another year before the software was actually ready to go. The initial Android prototypeshttp://gizmodo.com/334909/google-android-prototype-in-the-wild?tag=gadgetsandroidhardwareinthewildlooked a lot like BlackBerry devices (both in hardware and software). But the first device (the G1) and OS actually released was more of a cross between a T-Mobile Sidekick (which Android head Andy Rubin helped create while still a co-founder at Dangerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger_%28company%29) and the iPhone OS. In hindsight, Steve Jobs was clearly not happy about thishttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/steve-jobs-android-a-stolen-product/61504and the subsequent iPhone-ification of Android. But great artists steal, etc, etc. The only thing I didn’t like about Android at the time was that it was a *shitty* copy of the iPhone. It was something you couldn’t pay me to use. And most people seemed to feel the same way. Jobs probably didn’t say much at the time because he didn’t have to. The market was saying it. Time went on and it was pretty clear that despite the major players involved in the OHA, Android wasn’t getting a lot of traction. Meanwhile, the iPhone, after a price-cut and addition of 3G technology, was soaring. So Google did the logical thing, they went to see Verizon, the largest U.S. carrier, and struck a dealhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33192558/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/t/verizon-google-android-partnership/#.Twuk997uYug . Remember, Apple still had an agreement with ATT for exclusive iPhone rights in the U.S. at the time. Verizon and Google needed each other. But Google clearly needed Verizon more. This was the first real problem. A deal with the devil was struck. Let’s back up for a second. Even before Android’s launch, Google clearly had big dreams for the mobile space. “Your mobile phone should be free,” Eric Schmidt toldhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15700344/Reuters in late 2006. He envisioned a world in which consumers didn’t have to pay for their mobile phones — advertising (served by Google
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Makanya lucu baca blog dia. Kecewa dari mana? Wong yg berhak kecewa itu orang yg udah pernah berharap, dan dia sama sekali gak pernah harapkan apa2 dari android kecuali jadi lebih buruk setiap hari. Tapi mungkin dia dibayar ya. Gw rasa logis kalo ada orang yg bela dan benci mati-matian terhadap suatu produk krn dia bagian dari kampanye. Yg kasihan yg jd fan boy cuma krn ikut2an. Gak dibayar, capek iya. __ twitter/mytubo/IG: @johjuda fotodroids.net On Jan 11, 2012 10:45 AM, abangkis abang...@gmail.com wrote: Agak ridiculous gak sih ? He's picking Android Promise Now ? MG Siegler itu udah nyerang semua aspek android. Sekarang dia nyerang sesuatu yg sifatnya lebih ke arah politik. Di antara semua Handset Manufacturer/ OS builder. Hanya Google dan Android-nya yg berani mencoba mengubah cara Telco di US ber-operasi. Dan ketika mereka belum berhasil, itu jadi dasarnya dia 'Hate Android', bukannya di dukung malah di jelek2in ? Coba cek artikel-artikel MG Siegler yg lain utk paham sebenarnya dia itu bagaimana. Ada fakta yg menarik sih. Google itu berusaha keras supaya pemilik hp di US itu gak terikat dengan 1 Telco operator. Dan bisa dengan bebas ganti-ganti sim card. Mungkin mereka perlu belajar ke Indonesia kali yah. Udah bertahun-tahun seperti itu di sini :) On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Andi - leo5354 leo5...@se-ven.netwrote: ** Secara garis besar yg saya tangkap dari artikelnya adalah kekecewaan author bahwa konsep awal Google atas dunia mobile lewat platform Android ternyata justru tidak ditepati. Salah satu alasan yg dikemukakan adalah bahwa Eric Schmidt pernah mengatakan bahwa HP seharusnya gratis (layanan advertising Google yg menyediakan subsidi) Tp kenyataannya karena keterbatasan Google sendiri, dimana mereka bukan operator jaringan memaksa Google berkompromi dengan operator sehingga harga handset bukannya jadi murah malah lumayan mahal (contoh yg diberikan adalah Nexus One dgn harga $579) Selain itu soal Net Neutrality dimana menurut author Google yg pada awalnya mendukung konsep itu malah akhirnya berkolaborasi dgn operator Verizon (yg menentang) Secara garis besar opininya memang masih subyektif karena berdasar pendapatnya tp argumennya jelas dan masuk akal walau masih bisa diperdebatkan Paling ngga kita jadi punya perspektif lain atas terminologi open Android sebagai platform To work, to sweat and to struggle is the enjoyment and achievement of life -- *From: * Amer moamer.khad...@gmail.com *Sender: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Date: *Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:06:45 +0700 *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [id-android] WTI - Hate Android blom baca karena bahasa linggis saya jelek. jadi kesimpulannya borok android dan google ada hubungannya dengan open flatform itu gimana om? On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Andi - leo5354 leo5...@se-ven.netwrote: ** Google translate aja bro Artikel ini wajib dibaca oleh mereka yg mengagungkan Android sebagai open platform karena dalam artikel ini beberapa borok Android dan Google dibeberkan secara lugas dan jelas Nice share buat authornya karena membantu kita memandang hal dari suatu perspektif yg jelas dan didukung fakta, bukan asal ngomong tp ngga nyambung To work, to sweat and to struggle is the enjoyment and achievement of life -- *From: * Andika Ikhsan ikhsan.and...@gmail.com *Sender: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:18:49 +0700 *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Subject: *[id-android] WTI - Hate Android tadi liat twitter ada TT Hate Android ternyata asalnya adalah dari artikel ini.. http://parislemon.com/post/15604811641/why-i-hate-android jujur bahasanya rada njelimet dan ada hubungannya sama sejarah android yg saya sendiri ga paham.. mungkin ada yg bs ngasih penjelasan soal fakta2 yg disebut di artikel ini? *HATE ANDROID* Why do I hate Android? It’s definitely one of the questions I get asked most often these days. And most of those that don’t ask probably assume it’s because I’m an iPhone guy. People see negative take after negative take about the operating system and label me as “unreasonable” or “biased” or worse. I should probably explain. Believe it or not, I actually don’t hate Android. That is to say, I don’t hate the *concept* of Android — in fact, at one point, I loved it. What I hate is what Android has become. And more specifically, what Google has done with Android. Let’s turn back the clock. In 2006, the mobile landscape in the United States was almost unfathomably shitty. Motorola’s RAZR had been the top-selling device for something ridiculous like five straight years — and the only thing that didn’t suck about it was its physical size. The carriers completely controlled the industry. This cannot be overstated. Then on January 9, 2007 — exactly 5
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Kalau saya membaca : Eric Schmidt pernah mengatakan bahwa HP seharusnya gratis (layanan advertising Google yg menyediakan subsidi) Yang saya tangkap itu sekedar harapan dari Google, dan bukan berupa janji. Kalau sampai penulis kecewa, yang bloon ya dia sendiri karena nggak ada janji disitu. Yang saya lebih nggak ngerti hubungannya antara kekecewaan akan HP gratis dan ke-open-an Android dimana ya? Untuk soal terminology open dari Android, apakah memang ada masalah? Saya sendiri melihat kalau semua orang bisa dan boleh saja bikin handset Android, bikin ROM Android, bikin aplikasi Android dan semua itu dipersilahkan oleh Google. Dari situ rasanya sudah open banget deh. Apa masih ada kurangnya yah? salam -iggy On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Andi - leo5354 leo5...@se-ven.net wrote: ** Secara garis besar yg saya tangkap dari artikelnya adalah kekecewaan author bahwa konsep awal Google atas dunia mobile lewat platform Android ternyata justru tidak ditepati. Salah satu alasan yg dikemukakan adalah bahwa Eric Schmidt pernah mengatakan bahwa HP seharusnya gratis (layanan advertising Google yg menyediakan subsidi) Tp kenyataannya karena keterbatasan Google sendiri, dimana mereka bukan operator jaringan memaksa Google berkompromi dengan operator sehingga harga handset bukannya jadi murah malah lumayan mahal (contoh yg diberikan adalah Nexus One dgn harga $579) Selain itu soal Net Neutrality dimana menurut author Google yg pada awalnya mendukung konsep itu malah akhirnya berkolaborasi dgn operator Verizon (yg menentang) Secara garis besar opininya memang masih subyektif karena berdasar pendapatnya tp argumennya jelas dan masuk akal walau masih bisa diperdebatkan Paling ngga kita jadi punya perspektif lain atas terminologi open Android sebagai platform To work, to sweat and to struggle is the enjoyment and achievement of life -- *From: * Amer moamer.khad...@gmail.com *Sender: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Date: *Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:06:45 +0700 *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [id-android] WTI - Hate Android blom baca karena bahasa linggis saya jelek. jadi kesimpulannya borok android dan google ada hubungannya dengan open flatform itu gimana om? On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Andi - leo5354 leo5...@se-ven.netwrote: ** Google translate aja bro Artikel ini wajib dibaca oleh mereka yg mengagungkan Android sebagai open platform karena dalam artikel ini beberapa borok Android dan Google dibeberkan secara lugas dan jelas Nice share buat authornya karena membantu kita memandang hal dari suatu perspektif yg jelas dan didukung fakta, bukan asal ngomong tp ngga nyambung To work, to sweat and to struggle is the enjoyment and achievement of life -- *From: * Andika Ikhsan ikhsan.and...@gmail.com *Sender: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:18:49 +0700 *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Subject: *[id-android] WTI - Hate Android tadi liat twitter ada TT Hate Android ternyata asalnya adalah dari artikel ini.. http://parislemon.com/post/15604811641/why-i-hate-android jujur bahasanya rada njelimet dan ada hubungannya sama sejarah android yg saya sendiri ga paham.. mungkin ada yg bs ngasih penjelasan soal fakta2 yg disebut di artikel ini? *HATE ANDROID* Why do I hate Android? It’s definitely one of the questions I get asked most often these days. And most of those that don’t ask probably assume it’s because I’m an iPhone guy. People see negative take after negative take about the operating system and label me as “unreasonable” or “biased” or worse. I should probably explain. Believe it or not, I actually don’t hate Android. That is to say, I don’t hate the *concept* of Android — in fact, at one point, I loved it. What I hate is what Android has become. And more specifically, what Google has done with Android. Let’s turn back the clock. In 2006, the mobile landscape in the United States was almost unfathomably shitty. Motorola’s RAZR had been the top-selling device for something ridiculous like five straight years — and the only thing that didn’t suck about it was its physical size. The carriers completely controlled the industry. This cannot be overstated. Then on January 9, 2007 — exactly 5 years ago today — Steve Jobs took the stage at Macworld to unveil the iPhone. Six months later it was released. While some laughed it off http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXq9NTjEdToat the time, the mobile landscape completely changed. Apple and Google were great allies at the time. They united over a common enemy: Microsoft. Then-Google CEO Eric Schmidt was even on Apple’s board of directors. Google was a huge part of original iPhone OS (before it was called iOS): Google Maps, YouTube, Google Search, etc. Apple could have launched the iPhone without Google, but it wouldn’t have
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Makanya saya bilang argumennya bisa diperdebatkan lagi Ha..ha..ha..ha..ha To work, to sweat and to struggle is the enjoyment and achievement of life -Original Message- From: Iggy Budiman H. iggy.budiman.andr...@gmail.com Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 14:43:17 To: id-android@googlegroups.com Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [id-android] WTI - Hate Android Kalau saya membaca : Eric Schmidt pernah mengatakan bahwa HP seharusnya gratis (layanan advertising Google yg menyediakan subsidi) Yang saya tangkap itu sekedar harapan dari Google, dan bukan berupa janji. Kalau sampai penulis kecewa, yang bloon ya dia sendiri karena nggak ada janji disitu. Yang saya lebih nggak ngerti hubungannya antara kekecewaan akan HP gratis dan ke-open-an Android dimana ya? Untuk soal terminology open dari Android, apakah memang ada masalah? Saya sendiri melihat kalau semua orang bisa dan boleh saja bikin handset Android, bikin ROM Android, bikin aplikasi Android dan semua itu dipersilahkan oleh Google. Dari situ rasanya sudah open banget deh. Apa masih ada kurangnya yah? salam -iggy On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Andi - leo5354 leo5...@se-ven.net wrote: ** Secara garis besar yg saya tangkap dari artikelnya adalah kekecewaan author bahwa konsep awal Google atas dunia mobile lewat platform Android ternyata justru tidak ditepati. Salah satu alasan yg dikemukakan adalah bahwa Eric Schmidt pernah mengatakan bahwa HP seharusnya gratis (layanan advertising Google yg menyediakan subsidi) Tp kenyataannya karena keterbatasan Google sendiri, dimana mereka bukan operator jaringan memaksa Google berkompromi dengan operator sehingga harga handset bukannya jadi murah malah lumayan mahal (contoh yg diberikan adalah Nexus One dgn harga $579) Selain itu soal Net Neutrality dimana menurut author Google yg pada awalnya mendukung konsep itu malah akhirnya berkolaborasi dgn operator Verizon (yg menentang) Secara garis besar opininya memang masih subyektif karena berdasar pendapatnya tp argumennya jelas dan masuk akal walau masih bisa diperdebatkan Paling ngga kita jadi punya perspektif lain atas terminologi open Android sebagai platform To work, to sweat and to struggle is the enjoyment and achievement of life -- *From: * Amer moamer.khad...@gmail.com *Sender: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Date: *Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:06:45 +0700 *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [id-android] WTI - Hate Android blom baca karena bahasa linggis saya jelek. jadi kesimpulannya borok android dan google ada hubungannya dengan open flatform itu gimana om? On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Andi - leo5354 leo5...@se-ven.netwrote: ** Google translate aja bro Artikel ini wajib dibaca oleh mereka yg mengagungkan Android sebagai open platform karena dalam artikel ini beberapa borok Android dan Google dibeberkan secara lugas dan jelas Nice share buat authornya karena membantu kita memandang hal dari suatu perspektif yg jelas dan didukung fakta, bukan asal ngomong tp ngga nyambung To work, to sweat and to struggle is the enjoyment and achievement of life -- *From: * Andika Ikhsan ikhsan.and...@gmail.com *Sender: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:18:49 +0700 *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * id-android@googlegroups.com *Subject: *[id-android] WTI - Hate Android tadi liat twitter ada TT Hate Android ternyata asalnya adalah dari artikel ini.. http://parislemon.com/post/15604811641/why-i-hate-android jujur bahasanya rada njelimet dan ada hubungannya sama sejarah android yg saya sendiri ga paham.. mungkin ada yg bs ngasih penjelasan soal fakta2 yg disebut di artikel ini? *HATE ANDROID* Why do I hate Android? It’s definitely one of the questions I get asked most often these days. And most of those that don’t ask probably assume it’s because I’m an iPhone guy. People see negative take after negative take about the operating system and label me as “unreasonable” or “biased” or worse. I should probably explain. Believe it or not, I actually don’t hate Android. That is to say, I don’t hate the *concept* of Android — in fact, at one point, I loved it. What I hate is what Android has become. And more specifically, what Google has done with Android. Let’s turn back the clock. In 2006, the mobile landscape in the United States was almost unfathomably shitty. Motorola’s RAZR had been the top-selling device for something ridiculous like five straight years — and the only thing that didn’t suck about it was its physical size. The carriers completely controlled the industry. This cannot be overstated. Then on January 9, 2007 — exactly 5 years ago today — Steve Jobs took the stage at Macworld to unveil the iPhone. Six months later it was released. While some laughed it off http://www.youtube.com/watch?v
