Re: [fsug-tvm] Arch Linux Users please stand up !

2010-12-10 Thread David Shar
I have Arch along with 31 other OS on me box.

On 12/10/10, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote:
 me too. Arch in One laptop and Pardus on Desktop

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Re: [fsug-tvm] Monthly meeting -December

2010-12-10 Thread Anish A
 Well 5 or more serious topics and no mention of wikileaks , thats how
 you would like it ? Well I think user group meets should be fun .


It should be. There is no strict agenda. We can discuss that too, if we
like. FSUG meeting is not a monopoly. Everyone can do anything. But my doubt
is, if we are discussing, what will be the result? The other 5 topics will
have some outcome.

Also there are 2 localisation topics in the meet , I think they would
 be better off in SMC ie Swatanthra Malayalam Computing ) meet .


There is only one localization , KDE. There is some overlap of members
between FSUG and SMC. We are fixing date for next SMC camp and mentors.
That's all.


 Wikileaks is the most happening thing , You heard of Amazon , paypal 
 easyDNS blocking service which are exhibiting a monopoly .  There are
 cloud services , money transacting and most importantly DNS services
 which are being controlled .Isn't that worth a talk /chat ?


As  said above.

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Re: [fsug-tvm] Monthly meeting -December

2010-12-10 Thread maheshmohan...@gmail.com
 On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Anish A aneesh...@gmail.com wrote:

I accept your arguments. But about privacy? What are your opinion about
 that?


Well. Aneesh, your privacy is already compromised, in case you are thinking
these much extreme! If you are so much privacy aware, why are you using
Google services like search, Gmail etc..

Anyway Google have a clear Android Privacy Policy[
http://www.android.com/privacy.html ]. It is obvious that they are keeping
track of your search behavior to serve us targeted ads. In that way, they
are generating revenue.

But my merely using Android, I think there will be no problem. Most issues
are reported with third party apps in the market. If you wouldn't trust any
app developer, please do not install their app. That's all.

Please accept the fact. Google is doing something to promote FOSS. It will
be better for the free software community.


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Re: [fsug-tvm] Monthly meeting -December

2010-12-10 Thread maheshmohan...@gmail.com
 On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 12:00 PM, pavithran pavithra...@gmail.com wrote:


 Well 5 or more serious topics and no mention of wikileaks , thats how
 you would like it ? Well I think user group meets should be fun .
 Also there are 2 localisation topics in the meet , I think they would
 be better off in SMC ie Swatanthra Malayalam Computing ) meet .

 Wikileaks is the most happening thing , You heard of Amazon , paypal 
 easyDNS blocking service which are exhibiting a monopoly .  There are
 cloud services , money transacting and most importantly DNS services
 which are being controlled .Isn't that worth a talk /chat ?


+1

Aneesh, this is a user group meeting, not a formal event. The sole purpose
of the meeting is to discuss for the well being of Free Software and to have
some fun. It will not happen if you are so monopolistic like this! I just
posted the rough agenda with Wikileaks as one of the topics. But, you
finalized it with your opinion. It is not fair!

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Re: [fsug-tvm] best os

2010-12-10 Thread jeevanism

depends on wat project it may be.. anyways ..
Mandriva is a stable platform for
desktop
server
  projects..

On Friday 10 December 2010 01:29 AM, Narendra Sisodiya wrote:



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hi frend i want to do project in linux platform so plz help me to
choose a linux distribution with gud support.


Go for Debian..
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Re: [fsug-tvm] Monthly meeting -December

2010-12-10 Thread jeevanism
3pm is fine.. coz I can go for IFFK after this meeting.. I am 
attending.. count me..

So where is the final location??.. Nishagandhi

On Thursday 09 December 2010 02:33 PM, dhananjay wrote:

Im in.

On 9 December 2010 13:22, Anish A aneesh.nl 
http://aneesh.nl@gmail.com http://gmail.com wrote:




2010/12/9 jeevanism jeevan...@gmail.com
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ok.. if there are some roofs, we can meet.. and happily.. I
can attend..:)..so lets meet.. wat time


We can start the meeting at 3:00 PM at Saturday evening. The
duration of meeting can be 1.5 to 2 hours.

About attendance, how many persons are attending?


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Re: [fsug-tvm] Monthly meeting -December

2010-12-10 Thread pavithran
On 10 December 2010 16:46, jeevanism jeevan...@gmail.com wrote:
 3pm is fine.. coz I can go for IFFK after this meeting.. I am attending..
 count me..
Hey prev meet buddy , like last time we had hay festival ,this time we
have IFFK ?

Don't want to see similar no's :P

Anyways count me in for both the events , do we need to book anythings
for the later ?

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Re: [fsug-tvm] Web Development Tools For Project

2010-12-10 Thread കിച്ചു
Thanks for your suggestions. Well, I'm not trying to use any cms right now.
Just gonna hand code that it will be more easy to my group members and it
would be easy for anyone to modify. Just sticking with gedit, xampp, gimp
and will be using eclipse.
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Re: [fsug-tvm] Monthly meeting -December

2010-12-10 Thread jeevanism
hey, Pavi.,...well. I hope this time , more people will come along.. and 
if u meant for IFFK,well, registration is over..:(...


and hey ..the location..Nishagandhi..??? fixed??
On Friday 10 December 2010 06:07 PM, pavithran wrote:

On 10 December 2010 16:46, jeevanismjeevan...@gmail.com  wrote:

3pm is fine.. coz I can go for IFFK after this meeting.. I am attending..
count me..

Hey prev meet buddy , like last time we had hay festival ,this time we
have IFFK ?

Don't want to see similar no's :P

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Re: [fsug-tvm] Monthly meeting -December

2010-12-10 Thread Praveen A
2010/12/10 maheshmohan...@gmail.com maheshmohan...@gmail.com:
 Well. Aneesh, your privacy is already compromised, in case you are thinking
 these much extreme! If you are so much privacy aware, why are you using
 Google services like search, Gmail etc..

Well, if you not even talking about it, how are you going to get rid
of it? It is not a simple one or two person task, it is much more
challenging than liberating software. We have to build things which
respects our privacy before we can abandon thse services. Diaspora,
statusnet/identica, riseup.net all are steps in that direction.

We used Unix to develop GNU/Linux in the early days. Being helpless
about a situation is not the right approach, even if we are
compromising, we have to know about it and think and work towards a
solution. So the first step in that is to be concerned about these.
And one compromise does not automatically imply you should compromise
on another issue. We can't solve all the issues at once, it takes time
and effort. See for example Chamba itself, we want all cultural
products to be free. So should we just stop watching all the films? We
know what we have currently is not the best thing, but before we could
completely stop these, we need to come up with things based on our
philosophy. Even Free Software movement itself took this long to reach
its current stage, at any point people were using non-free software
till we came up with a Free replacement.

The point is, we have a lot of things to do, and we have to keep
working and not lose the goals, even if it takes a long time to
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Re: [fsug-tvm] Arch Linux Users please stand up !

2010-12-10 Thread srihari k
I am an archlinux user .
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 This mail was prompted by Dhananjay's reply to an earlier email, out
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[fsug-tvm] [OT] The New Forum Look

2010-12-10 Thread h4nnibal
Hey guys,
Did you see the forum kinda look of mailing list. Google's new feature. I
think its new. Never seen it before.

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Re: [fsug-tvm] problem with evdo capitel modem

2010-12-10 Thread Suhail T
9.10 don't have EVDO drivers .. I hav faced the same problem once ... You
can manually install it by modprobe but its better to use 10.04 LTS ...





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[fsug-tvm] [Fwd: WikiLeaks: Stop the crackdown - incredible response!]

2010-12-10 Thread V. Sasi Kumar
In the context of the discussion on Wikileaks, here is a petition that
demands for the attack on Wikileaks to stop.

Best
Sasi

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From: Ricken Patel - Avaaz.org av...@avaaz.org
To: sasi@gmail.com sasi@gmail.com
Subject: WikiLeaks: Stop the crackdown - incredible response!
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 09:31:22 -0500

Incredible - nearly 400,000 signatures in one day for press freedom!
Join the massive outcry and forward the email below -

Dear friends, 


The chilling intimidation campaign against WikiLeaks (when they have
broken no laws) is an attack on freedom of the press and democracy. We
urgently need a massive public outcry to stop the crackdown -- let's get
to 1 million voices and take out full page ads in US newspapers this
week! 

   Sign the petition

The massive campaign of intimidation against WikiLeaks is sending a
chill through free press advocates everywhere. 

Legal experts say WikiLeaks has likely broken no laws. Yet top US
politicians have called it a terrorist group and commentators have urged
assassination of its staff. The organization has come under massive
government and corporate attack, but WikiLeaks is only publishing
information provided by a whistleblower. And it has partnered with the
world's leading newspapers (NYT, Guardian, Spiegel etc) to carefully vet
the information it publishes. 

The massive extra-judicial intimidation of WikiLeaks is an attack on
democracy. We urgently need a public outcry for freedom of the press and
expression. Sign the petition to stop the crackdown and forward this
email to everyone -- let's get to 1 million voices and take out full
page ads in US newspapers this week! 

http://www.avaaz.org/en/wikileaks_petition/?vl

WikiLeaks isn't acting alone -- it's partnered with the top newspapers
in the world (New York Times, The Guardian, Der Spiegel, etc) to
carefully review 250,000 US diplomatic cables and remove any information
that it is irresponsible to publish. Only 800 cables have been published
so far. Past WikiLeaks publications have exposed government-backed
torture, the murder of innocent civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan, and
corporate corruption. 

The US government is currently pursuing all legal avenues to stop
WikiLeaks from publishing more cables, but the laws of democracies
protect freedom of the press. The US and other governments may not like
the laws that protect our freedom of expression, but that's exactly why
it's so important that we have them, and why only a democratic process
can change them. 

Reasonable people can disagree on whether WikiLeaks and the leading
newspapers it's partnered with are releasing more information than the
public should see. Whether the releases undermine diplomatic
confidentiality and whether that's a good thing. Whether WikiLeaks
founder Julian Assange has the personal character of a hero or a
villain. But none of this justifies a vicious campaign of intimidation
to silence a legal media outlet by governments and corporations. Click
below to join the call to stop the crackdown: 

http://www.avaaz.org/en/wikileaks_petition/?vl

Ever wonder why the media so rarely gives the full story of what happens
behind the scenes? This is why - because when they do, governments can
be vicious in their response. And when that happens, it's up to the
public to stand up for our democratic rights to a free press and freedom
of expression. Never has there been a more vital time for us to do so. 

With hope,
Ricken, Emma, Alex, Alice, Maria Paz and the rest of the Avaaz team.

SOURCES:

Law experts say WikiLeaks in the clear (ABC)
http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2010/s3086781.htm 

WikiLeaks are a bunch of terrorists, says leading U.S. congressman (Mail
Online)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1333879/WikiLeaks-terrorists-says-leading-US-congressman-Peter-King.html

Cyber guerrillas can help US (Financial Times)
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d3dd7c40-ff15-11df-956b-00144feab49a.html#axzz17QvQ4Ht5
 

Amazon drops WikiLeaks under political pressure (Yahoo)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101201/tc_afp/usdiplomacyinternetwikileakscongressamazon
 

Wikileaks: Brazil President Lula backs Julian Assange (BBC):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-11966193

US Gov shows true control over Internet with WikiLeaks containment
(Tippett.org) 
http://www.tippett.org/2010/12/us-gov-shows-true-control-over-internet-with-wikileaks-containment/
 

US embassy cables culprit should be executed, says Mike Huckabee (The
Guardian)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/01/us-embassy-cables-executed-mike-huckabee

WikiLeaks ditched by MasterCard, Visa. Who's next? (The Christian
Science Monitor)
http://www.csmonitor.com/Innovation/Horizons/2010/1207/WikiLeaks-ditched-by-MasterCard-Visa.-Who-s-next

Assange's Interpol Warrant Is for Having Sex Without a Condom (The
Slatest)
http://slatest.slate.com/id/2276690/




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Re: [fsug-tvm] best os

2010-12-10 Thread David Shar
BSD's are best for kernel performance. I run FreeBSD server that consumes 32
mb ram without X and abt 40 MB ram with X. In terms of Linux with kde I
prefer openSUSE, that is stable, error free and fast. CentOS is best Linux
Server Distro.

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 7:19 PM, jeevanism jeevan...@gmail.com wrote:

  depends on wat project it may be.. anyways ..
 Mandriva is a stable platform for
 desktop
 server
   projects..

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 On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 9:47 PM, ATHUL BABU athul...@gmail.com wrote:

 hi frend i want to do project in linux platform so plz help me to choose a
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Re: [fsug-tvm] Monthly meeting -December

2010-12-10 Thread Anish A

 Aneesh, this is a user group meeting, not a formal event. The sole purpose
 of the meeting is to discuss for the well being of Free Software and to have
 some fun.


 I accept that.

It will not happen if you are so monopolistic like this! I just posted the
 rough agenda with Wikileaks as one of the topics. But, you finalized it with
 your opinion. It is not fair!


I am not enforcing. I suggested those five topics. It is not my opinion
alone. I have discussed with some senior members and fixed that. You could
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Re: [fsug-tvm] Monthly meeting -December

2010-12-10 Thread Anish A
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  hey, Pavi.,...well. I hope this time , more people will come along.. and
 if u meant for IFFK,well, registration is over..:(...

 and hey ..the location..Nishagandhi..??? fixed??


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Re: [fsug-tvm] Monthly meeting -December

2010-12-10 Thread jeevanism

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2010/12/10 jeevanism jeevan...@gmail.com mailto:jeevan...@gmail.com

hey, Pavi.,...well. I hope this time , more people will come
along.. and if u meant for IFFK,well, registration is over..:(...

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The location is kanakakunnu palace grounds, at a mandapam behind the 
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Re: [fsug-tvm] Mandriva Linux users ..stand up!!!

2010-12-10 Thread jeevanism
hmmm.. no idea why so.. I use Nvidia and it works perfect and my updates 
are superfast...plus Ubuntu suck so much with me...


On Saturday 11 December 2010 08:34 AM, David Shar wrote:
I've mandriva installed but it sucks on many counts, nvidia namely. 
The driver on offer under mandriva spring 2010.1 is ancient. The 
updates run really slow. It picks up a chinese mirror for running 
updates when IIT Bangalore mirror is available.


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ok..After ArchLinux users line up.. lets behold for Mandriva LInux
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Re: [fsug-tvm] Monthly meeting -December

2010-12-10 Thread sooraj kenoth
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[fsug-tvm] Debian Re-Mastering

2010-12-10 Thread h4nnibal
Hi friends,

I hope many of you in this group are aware of unofficial Ubuntu,
Debian and Arch repositories' mirror in College of Engineering
Trivandrum. We are willing to provide the repository to the public. It
needs time (official work). We are currently working for the DNS
registration. Most probably by new year we can give you a good news
too.

As a part of it, we would like to remaster ubuntu/debian as per your
request and provide it to the public. We need honest voting from you
linux users to help us decide what all softwares to be included.

Please vote honestly and provide suggestions.

http://members.multimania.co.uk/hogmanay/

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[fsug-tvm] Debian Re-mastering

2010-12-10 Thread h4nnibal
Hi friends,

I hope many of you in this group are aware of unofficial Ubuntu, Debian and
Arch repositories' mirror in College of Engineering Trivandrum. We are
willing to provide the repository to the public. It needs time (official
work). We are currently working for the DNS registration. Most probably by
new year we can give you a good news too.

As a part of it, we would like to remaster ubuntu/debian as per your request
and provide it to the public. We need honest voting from you linux users to
help us decide what all softwares to be included.

Please vote honestly and provide suggestions.

http://members.multimania.co.uk/hogmanay/


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Re: [fsug-tvm] Debian Re-Mastering

2010-12-10 Thread Narendra Sisodiya
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 12:11 AM, h4nnibal arjun1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi friends,

 I hope many of you in this group are aware of unofficial Ubuntu,
 Debian and Arch repositories' mirror in College of Engineering
 Trivandrum. We are willing to provide the repository to the public. It
 needs time (official work). We are currently working for the DNS
 registration. Most probably by new year we can give you a good news
 too.

 As a part of it, we would like to remaster ubuntu/debian as per your
 request and provide it to the public.


Well, I must say you join SchoolOS. You can visit SchoolOS wiki and learn
how and what script were used to customise it. We have documented it well
and you can follow all updates on googlecode.
http://code.google.com/p/schoolos/
After that your can change logos/wallaper/theme or add/remove packages
whatever you want.

Coding repo contains code/script for Ubuntu. we are working to create exact
same behavior (packages/customisation) on Debian and fedora. You might take
up these branches.

I have asked what packages are installed on your system , I got full package
list 8 system. I will send a common list so that you can determine what are
most needed packages..

Please join SchoolOS mailing list so that we can work together for some
commons goals..



 We need honest voting from you
 linux users to help us decide what all softwares to be included.

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