Re: [fsug-tvm] Forced Proprietary Standard by Trivandrum Corporation

[Rajeev J Sebastian]

On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 2:14 AM, Narendra Sisodiya
 wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 12:38 AM, Rajeev J Sebastian
>  wrote:
>>
>> > See, Public goods like public software (FOSS) can be created by industry
>> > and
>> > public. But it will be good if public body initiate this process.
>> >                                   I am giving the most simplest logic of
>> > the
>> > world
>> > "Govt is buying software which are under close license that means 1 dept
>> > cannot share software with other department. Govt can invest same money
>> > in
>> > creating same software and Govt can release under sharable license."
>>
>> Your logic is sound, but mechanism is not. For a Govt to purchase
>> anything, it goes through a specific *public* process of procurement.
>>
>> Typically, Govt will call a tender for purchase of certain software.
>
> Om Shanti OM.
> Om Shanti OM.,
>
> PS0: you are taking about purchase process. I am talking about  having a
> Govt process/department (like Army , Police) to develop tons of hackers and
> free software !!
> Leave this topic.. It is difficult to understand by the virtue of Newtons
> 1st law (The law of Inertial)
> PS1 : Inertia is a property by virtue of this property you will feel
> difficulty in thinking in new direction...
> PS2 : I am not going to reply in this thread !

WTF? I think you are the one unable to think in a new direction. I
understand exactly what you want, and I DISAGREE. Please read earlier
comments before shooting your mouth off.

The purchase process is *exactly* how Govt gets software made; it
happens for packaged software (like Windows, AutoCAD, etc) as well as
custom made software. Also, the Govt itself *already does* make
software (which is then sold back to the Govt using the earlier
mentioned purchase process)! What the hell do you think CDAC and CDIT
are doing? There are very few situations in which a Govt can create
software other than through a public process of procurement, which is
why I described the typical case.

If you want to leave a topic, just don't respond! Stop insulting
other's intelligence.

Regards
Rajeev J Sebastian

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Re: [fsug-tvm] Forced Proprietary Standard by Trivandrum Corporation

[Narendra Sisodiya]

On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 12:38 AM, Rajeev J Sebastian <
rajeev.sebast...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > See, Public goods like public software (FOSS) can be created by industry
> and
> > public. But it will be good if public body initiate this process.
> >   I am giving the most simplest logic of
> the
> > world
> > "Govt is buying software which are under close license that means 1 dept
> > cannot share software with other department. Govt can invest same money
> in
> > creating same software and Govt can release under sharable license."
>
> Your logic is sound, but mechanism is not. For a Govt to purchase
> anything, it goes through a specific *public* process of procurement.
>
> Typically, Govt will call a tender for purchase of certain software.



Om Shanti OM.
Om Shanti OM.,


PS0: you are taking about purchase process. I am talking about  having a
Govt process/department (like Army , Police) to develop tons of hackers and
free software !!

Leave this topic.. It is difficult to understand by the virtue of Newtons
1st law (The law of Inertial)

PS1 : Inertia is a property by virtue of this property you will feel
difficulty in thinking in new direction...

PS2 : I am not going to reply in this thread !

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Re: [fsug-tvm] Forced Proprietary Standard by Trivandrum Corporation

[Rajeev J Sebastian]

> See, Public goods like public software (FOSS) can be created by industry and
> public. But it will be good if public body initiate this process.
>                                   I am giving the most simplest logic of the
> world
> "Govt is buying software which are under close license that means 1 dept
> cannot share software with other department. Govt can invest same money in
> creating same software and Govt can release under sharable license."

Your logic is sound, but mechanism is not. For a Govt to purchase
anything, it goes through a specific *public* process of procurement.

Typically, Govt will call a tender for purchase of certain software.
Also typically, anyone is free to propose alternatives to the
committee instituted to examine all proposals. So, if you are
interested to provide some FLOSS solution, feel free to participate in
these tenders. Noone stops you, not even Govt.

But the fact is, most FLOSS fanatics do not participate in these
tenders instead calling for meaningless actions and making wild
statements. There are some people who do, and kudos to those.

Regards
Rajeev J Sebastian

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Re: [fsug-tvm] Forced Proprietary Standard by Trivandrum Corporation

[Narendra Sisodiya]

On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 10:58 PM, Adhin D  wrote:

> On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Narendra Sisodiya <
> naren...@narendrasisodiya.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> We invest a huge amount of public money in Army and many areas like
>> research and development. Govt already waste huge money in purchasing
>> licence to use the proprietary software. Same money can be invested in
>> development of software.
>>
>
> I think you are forgetting the fact that Free softwares doesn't always mean
> free of cost.
>

well, I can well versed into FOSS and its philosophy. I cannot state or
write all issues and all my knowledge in one mail.


>  Most of the popular free software developers demands money for the tech
> support. I think you may have noticed there are Free alternatives (open
> source) for CAD softwares which comes at a price (comparatively low).
>
> The pricing of CAD softwares as I understand, is slightly different from
> that of other softwares. They charge (in huge volumes of course) for the
> support and the software is a part (major part) of the support, not the
> other way around. Most of the CAD softwares I know were used to be
> specifically made (customized) for production industries according to their
> demand. So they are commonly known by the name CAD/CAM solutions. Now a days
> these softwares are used by individuals also and hence it seems to be
> becoming almost like any other software.
>
> I know this is not a solution for our issue. Lets not divert from the topic
> "whether we should submit a protest to the Corporation and to the State
> government or not".
>

Submit a protest and add that you want Support from Govt


> I believe as Free Software Activists we should suggest a better solution
> (if we have one) without compromising the output, and it must be quickly
> applicable. We should tell the Govt. "how" to do it, not "why" they should
> do it.
>
> Let's stop this unnecessary debate and come back to the topic...
>
> --
>


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Re: [fsug-tvm] Forced Proprietary Standard by Trivandrum Corporation

[Adhin D]

On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Narendra Sisodiya <
naren...@narendrasisodiya.com> wrote:

>
> We invest a huge amount of public money in Army and many areas like
> research and development. Govt already waste huge money in purchasing
> licence to use the proprietary software. Same money can be invested in
> development of software.
>

I think you are forgetting the fact that Free softwares doesn't always mean
free of cost. Most of the popular free software developers demands money for
the tech support. I think you may have noticed there are Free alternatives
(open source) for CAD softwares which comes at a price (comparatively low).

The pricing of CAD softwares as I understand, is slightly different from
that of other softwares. They charge (in huge volumes of course) for the
support and the software is a part (major part) of the support, not the
other way around. Most of the CAD softwares I know were used to be
specifically made (customized) for production industries according to their
demand. So they are commonly known by the name CAD/CAM solutions. Now a days
these softwares are used by individuals also and hence it seems to be
becoming almost like any other software.

I know this is not a solution for our issue. Lets not divert from the topic
"whether we should submit a protest to the Corporation and to the State
government or not". I believe as Free Software Activists we should suggest a
better solution (if we have one) without compromising the output, and it
must be quickly applicable. We should tell the Govt. "how" to do it, not
"why" they should do it.

Let's stop this unnecessary debate and come back to the topic...

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Re: [fsug-tvm] Forced Proprietary Standard by Trivandrum Corporation

[Narendra Sisodiya]

On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Aveek Sen  wrote:

> I agree with Rajeev. Its not yet done by anyone across the globe.
> Putting the blame squarely on Indian government is unjustified. If
> started, people across the world will pool in. And people in
> Government departments across the world,including CDAC would work if
> something productive comes out.
>
> On 8/21/10, Rajeev J Sebastian  wrote:
> > Food and communications are not done by govt at the moment;
> > furthermore, there is no implicit responsbility on the govt to do
> > anything other than regulating industry (some would say, not even
> > that, as in Somalia, etc). Finally, if you ask Kerala Govt to hire
> > developers, then the only thing you will do is open a can of worms.
> > Also, it's not like Kerala Govt doesnt already have developers who are
> > supposed to do these things (as you think they should).
> >
> > Personally, the govt should get out of industry and leave that to the
> > people.
> >
> > Regards
> > Rajeev J Sebastian
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 8:18 AM, ashik salahudeen 
> wrote:
> >> The Government , as the elected body responsible to people, must hire
> >> developers to work on it and release it as free software. The thing is
> >> , the Government is there to recognize and mitigate people's needs.
> >> Just like food, water, transportaion and communication, software is
> >> also increasingly becoming a need. It is the Government's
> >> responsibility to take steps to assure that the need is filled and is
> >> not exploited by vested economic interests. With software ( unlike
> >> other resources ) the answer lies in Free Software.
> >>
>

See, Public goods like public software (FOSS) can be created by industry and
public. But it will be good if public body initiate this process.
* ** I am giving the most simplest logic of
the world*
*
*
"*Govt is buying software which are under close license that means 1 dept
cannot share software with other department. Govt can invest same money in
creating same software and Govt can release under sharable license.*"


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Re: [fsug-tvm] Forced Proprietary Standard by Trivandrum Corporation

[Narendra Sisodiya]

On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 6:07 AM, Adhin D  wrote:

> On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 12:36 AM, Narendra Sisodiya <
> naren...@narendrasisodiya.com> wrote:
>
>> All intangible goods like Content/Software/Standards/Process is
>> responsibility of govt.
>>
>>
>> Statement 1 = All intangible good like e-Content/Software/Standards
>> are damm easy to share or reproduce.
>>
>> Statement 2  = Sharing or re-Production(copy paste) is always Good at zero
>> cost.
>>
>> Statement 3 = It is very difficult* for ordinary people or a company
>> to create business model of sharable intangible goods.
>>
>> Statement 4 = These goods have to be produced by public labor or
>> public money. Govt is a right body for such development.
>>
>> read more at :
>> http://right-to-software.org/About%20Right%20to%20Software
>
>
> I read your blog. It was a good one and first of all I should congratulate
> for that.
>
> But in the post, you wrote "Govt. should create it". How is that practical?
>
>

We invest a huge amount of public money in Army and many areas like research
and development. Govt already waste huge money in purchasing licence to use
the proprietary software. Same money can be invested in development of
software.

Please file RTI in govt offices and you will get to know that huge money has
been wasted in purchasing M$ and other software.


> Are we blaming the Govt. for not having any good Free CAD softwares? Is
> that Govt. fault that skilled developers work for multi-national companies
> where they are paid high and are not contributing to FOSS?
> For the time being lets imagine the Govt. is 100% dedicated...how are they
> suppose to create such a software without the support of developers?... Or
> perhaps they can pass a law that forces all the CS students/professionals in
> the nation to take part in contributing to the project before getting their
> degrees/salaries?
>
>

Forcing for freedom is as evil as forcing for crime.
until and unless  a person do not understand value of freedom, he should be
included in freedom fight.

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Re: [fsug-tvm] Forced Proprietary Standard by Trivandrum Corporation

[Aveek Sen]

I agree with Rajeev. Its not yet done by anyone across the globe.
Putting the blame squarely on Indian government is unjustified. If
started, people across the world will pool in. And people in
Government departments across the world,including CDAC would work if
something productive comes out.

On 8/21/10, Rajeev J Sebastian  wrote:
> Food and communications are not done by govt at the moment;
> furthermore, there is no implicit responsbility on the govt to do
> anything other than regulating industry (some would say, not even
> that, as in Somalia, etc). Finally, if you ask Kerala Govt to hire
> developers, then the only thing you will do is open a can of worms.
> Also, it's not like Kerala Govt doesnt already have developers who are
> supposed to do these things (as you think they should).
>
> Personally, the govt should get out of industry and leave that to the
> people.
>
> Regards
> Rajeev J Sebastian
>
> On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 8:18 AM, ashik salahudeen  wrote:
>> The Government , as the elected body responsible to people, must hire
>> developers to work on it and release it as free software. The thing is
>> , the Government is there to recognize and mitigate people's needs.
>> Just like food, water, transportaion and communication, software is
>> also increasingly becoming a need. It is the Government's
>> responsibility to take steps to assure that the need is filled and is
>> not exploited by vested economic interests. With software ( unlike
>> other resources ) the answer lies in Free Software.
>>
>> --
>> aashik
>>
>> Free your documents, use OpenOffice: http://openoffice.org and LaTeX :
>> http://www.latex-project.org/
>>
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Re: [fsug-tvm] Forced Proprietary Standard by Trivandrum Corporation

[Rajeev J Sebastian]

Food and communications are not done by govt at the moment;
furthermore, there is no implicit responsbility on the govt to do
anything other than regulating industry (some would say, not even
that, as in Somalia, etc). Finally, if you ask Kerala Govt to hire
developers, then the only thing you will do is open a can of worms.
Also, it's not like Kerala Govt doesnt already have developers who are
supposed to do these things (as you think they should).

Personally, the govt should get out of industry and leave that to the people.

Regards
Rajeev J Sebastian

On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 8:18 AM, ashik salahudeen  wrote:
> The Government , as the elected body responsible to people, must hire
> developers to work on it and release it as free software. The thing is
> , the Government is there to recognize and mitigate people's needs.
> Just like food, water, transportaion and communication, software is
> also increasingly becoming a need. It is the Government's
> responsibility to take steps to assure that the need is filled and is
> not exploited by vested economic interests. With software ( unlike
> other resources ) the answer lies in Free Software.
>
> --
> aashik
>
> Free your documents, use OpenOffice: http://openoffice.org and LaTeX :
> http://www.latex-project.org/
>
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Re: [fsug-tvm] Forced Proprietary Standard by Trivandrum Corporation

[ashik salahudeen]

The Government , as the elected body responsible to people, must hire
developers to work on it and release it as free software. The thing is
, the Government is there to recognize and mitigate people's needs.
Just like food, water, transportaion and communication, software is
also increasingly becoming a need. It is the Government's
responsibility to take steps to assure that the need is filled and is
not exploited by vested economic interests. With software ( unlike
other resources ) the answer lies in Free Software.

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Re: [fsug-tvm] Forced Proprietary Standard by Trivandrum Corporation

[Adhin D]

On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 12:36 AM, Narendra Sisodiya <
naren...@narendrasisodiya.com> wrote:

> All intangible goods like Content/Software/Standards/Process is
> responsibility of govt.
>
>
> Statement 1 = All intangible good like e-Content/Software/Standards
> are damm easy to share or reproduce.
>
> Statement 2  = Sharing or re-Production(copy paste) is always Good at zero
> cost.
>
> Statement 3 = It is very difficult* for ordinary people or a company
> to create business model of sharable intangible goods.
>
> Statement 4 = These goods have to be produced by public labor or
> public money. Govt is a right body for such development.
>
> read more at :
> http://right-to-software.org/About%20Right%20to%20Software


I read your blog. It was a good one and first of all I should congratulate
for that.

But in the post, you wrote "Govt. should create it". How is that practical?
Are we blaming the Govt. for not having any good Free CAD softwares? Is that
Govt. fault that skilled developers work for multi-national companies where
they are paid high and are not contributing to FOSS?
For the time being lets imagine the Govt. is 100% dedicated...how are they
suppose to create such a software without the support of developers?... Or
perhaps they can pass a law that forces all the CS students/professionals in
the nation to take part in contributing to the project before getting their
degrees/salaries?

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Re: [fsug-tvm] Forced Proprietary Standard by Trivandrum Corporation

[Narendra Sisodiya]

All intangible goods like Content/Software/Standards/Process is
responsibility of govt.


Statement 1 = All intangible good like e-Content/Software/Standards
are damm easy to share or reproduce.

Statement 2  = Sharing or re-Production(copy paste) is always Good at zero cost.

Statement 3 = It is very difficult* for ordinary people or a company
to create business model of sharable intangible goods.

Statement 4 = These goods have to be produced by public labor or
public money. Govt is a right body for such development.

read more at :
http://right-to-software.org/About%20Right%20to%20Software

On 8/20/10, Adhin D  wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Narendra Sisodiya <
> naren...@narendrasisodiya.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Adhin D  wrote:
>>
>>> Yup...that's true. If we are going to protest, we should have a good
>>> alternative with us.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> If there are no standard or software, Govt should create them...
>>
>>
> I don't understand that statement, could you elaborate the point?
>
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Re: [fsug-tvm] Forced Proprietary Standard by Trivandrum Corporation

[Adhin D]

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Narendra Sisodiya <
naren...@narendrasisodiya.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Adhin D  wrote:
>
>> Yup...that's true. If we are going to protest, we should have a good
>> alternative with us.
>>
>>
>
> If there are no standard or software, Govt should create them...
>
>
I don't understand that statement, could you elaborate the point?

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Re: [fsug-tvm] Forced Proprietary Standard by Trivandrum Corporation

[Adhin D]

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Kartik Singhal wrote:

>
> CAD
>
>> 9. BRL-CAD  Replaces: 
>> AutoCAD($1,289)
>>
>> Originally developed by the military, BRL-CAD has been around for more
>> than 20 years, so it's both stable and full-featured. Its modeling
>> capabilities have been used to design and analyze vehicles, houses,
>> mechanical parts, weapons systems and more. Operating System: Windows,
>> Linux, OS X, others.
>>
>> 10. Archimedes  Replaces: 
>> AutoCAD($1,289)
>> Aimed primarily at architects, Archimedes can create both 2D and 3D
>> designs like AutoCAD. However, because it's still in the earlier stages of
>> development, its features aren't quite as robust as AutoCAD. Operating
>> System: Windows, Linux, OS X
>>
>

BRL-CAD cannot replace Autocad or any other mechanical CAD softwares. I can
say that because I've been trying BRL-CAD for months, it was very different
from CAD modeler...it looked more like high end analysis software. BRL-CAD
maybe a piece of cake for the developers (US Army R&D), but for ordinary CAD
users like us its very difficult. By the look of it, I think eventhough it
is opensource, not much of contribution (from outside) is done on its
development and hence it remains "geeky".

If anyone has used BRL-CAD on regular basis, please let me know...because I
could use some help from somebody.

I don't know about Archemedes, may be it can replace Architectural CAD
modelers and in effect, it may solve the issue mentioned in this thread.

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Re: [fsug-tvm] Forced Proprietary Standard by Trivandrum Corporation

[Narendra Sisodiya]

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Adhin D  wrote:

> Yup...that's true. If we are going to protest, we should have a good
> alternative with us.
>
>

No, its not like that...
If there are no standard or software, Govt should create them...

"All intangible goods ( like software, standards) is the responsibility if
Government"

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Re: [fsug-tvm] Forced Proprietary Standard by Trivandrum Corporation

[Kartik Singhal]

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Adhin D  wrote:

> Yup...that's true. If we are going to protest, we should have a good
> alternative with us.


Found some at:
http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3898906/50-Open-Source-Replacements-for-Really-Expensive-Software.htm

> CAD 9. BRL-CAD  Replaces: 
> AutoCAD($1,289)
>
> Originally developed by the military, BRL-CAD has been around for more than
> 20 years, so it's both stable and full-featured. Its modeling capabilities
> have been used to design and analyze vehicles, houses, mechanical parts,
> weapons systems and more. Operating System: Windows, Linux, OS X, others.
>
> 10. Archimedes  Replaces: 
> AutoCAD($1,289)
> Aimed primarily at architects, Archimedes can create both 2D and 3D designs
> like AutoCAD. However, because it's still in the earlier stages of
> development, its features aren't quite as robust as AutoCAD. Operating
> System: Windows, Linux, OS X
>


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Re: [fsug-tvm] Forced Proprietary Standard by Trivandrum Corporation

[Adhin D]

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Kartik Singhal wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 1:24 AM, Anoop John  wrote:
>
>> I hope you would have seen media reports related to the insistence of
>> Corporation of Trivandrum on using AutoCAD for submission of
>> Architectural drawings to the Corporation.
>>
>> I believe this is the page that mentions the technical details.
>>
>> http://www.corporationoftrivandrum.in/BPMS.htm
>>
>> Shouldn't we be submitting a protest to the Corporation and to the
>> State government regarding this?
>>
>
> But they mentioned in the report that there is a lack of a free software
> alternative for AutoCAD 3D. AFAIK that's true. Don't we need to justify that
> too?
>

Yup...that's true. If we are going to protest, we should have a good
alternative with us.

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Re: [fsug-tvm] Forced Proprietary Standard by Trivandrum Corporation

[Kartik Singhal]

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 1:24 AM, Anoop John  wrote:

> I hope you would have seen media reports related to the insistence of
> Corporation of Trivandrum on using AutoCAD for submission of
> Architectural drawings to the Corporation.
>
> I believe this is the page that mentions the technical details.
>
> http://www.corporationoftrivandrum.in/BPMS.htm
>
> Shouldn't we be submitting a protest to the Corporation and to the
> State government regarding this?
>

But they mentioned in the report that there is a lack of a free software
alternative for AutoCAD 3D. AFAIK that's true. Don't we need to justify that
too?

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[fsug-tvm] Forced Proprietary Standard by Trivandrum Corporation

[Anoop John]

I hope you would have seen media reports related to the insistence of
Corporation of Trivandrum on using AutoCAD for submission of
Architectural drawings to the Corporation.

I believe this is the page that mentions the technical details.

http://www.corporationoftrivandrum.in/BPMS.htm

Shouldn't we be submitting a protest to the Corporation and to the
State government regarding this?

Cheers
Anoop

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