[Ilugc] Re: How powerful gambas is ??
Kenneth Gonsalves law...@... writes: I think it is more of a toy - try dabo if you like. It has much wider support. Then what is the use of it.Is there any applications built using gambas.Can one build application using it or not??where it lags.. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] /. /.. files in home directory
It makes sense when you say that the . the .. are references to the hierarchical previous current directory. My question is a reference to a previous directory is explainable but why would you need a reference to a CWD? I don't mean to pull this any longer but I'm unclear about this. Try thinking from the machine's point of view (ok, not that the machine has a point of view!), how do you refer to a file in the CWD? Abishek ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Karamic Kola problem
Have you tried the steps listed here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1149675.html Hope, this helps. Regards, Karthik On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 6:02 PM, JAGANADH G jagana...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all I upgraded my machine from jaunty to karamic kola. Now Iam facing some strange problems. Sometimes the system goes to *stuck* mode. At that time mouse will be moving but keyboard is not working. If I try to install some packages I am getting the following error. For this I tried all the solutions given in the Ubuntu forum. Still I am getting the below given error. Any solution Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done vim is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 12 not upgraded. 8 not fully installed or removed. After this operation, 0B of additional disk space will be used. Setting up linux-image-2.6.31-15-generic (2.6.31-15.49) ... Running depmod. update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-15-generic Running postinst hook script /usr/sbin/update-grub. Generating grub.cfg ... /etc/grub.d/00_header: 1: Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting )) User postinst hook script [/usr/sbin/update-grub] exited with value 2 dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.31-15-generic (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2 Setting up grub-common (1.97~beta4-1ubuntu4) ... update-rc.d: warning: /etc/init.d/grub-common missing LSB information update-rc.d: see http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts /etc/init.d/grub-common: 1: Syntax error: ( unexpected invoke-rc.d: initscript grub-common, action start failed. dpkg: error processing grub-common (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of grub-pc: grub-pc depends on grub-common (= 1.97~beta4-1ubuntu4); however: Package grub-common is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing grub-pc (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Setting up libkate1 (0.3.3-1) ... No apport report written because the error message indicates its a followup error from a previous failure. dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute installed post-installation script: Exec format error dpkg: error processing libkate1 (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2 Setting up libmagick++2 (7:6.5.1.0-1.1ubuntu3) ... No apport report written because MaxReports is reached already dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute installed post-installation script: Exec format error dpkg: error processing libmagick++2 (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-image-generic: linux-image-generic depends on linux-image-2.6.31-15-generic; however: Package linux-image-2.6.31-15-generic is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing linux-image-generic (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-generic: linux-generic depends on linux-image-generic (= 2.6.31.15.28); however: Package linux-image-generic is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing linux-generic (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Setting up libass3 (0.9.6-1) ... No apport report written because MaxReports is reached already No apport report written because MaxReports is reached already No apport report written because MaxReports is reached already dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute installed post-installation script: Exec format error dpkg: error processing libass3 (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2 No apport report written because MaxReports is reached already Errors were encountered while processing: linux-image-2.6.31-15-generic grub-common grub-pc libkate1 libmagick++2 linux-image-generic linux-generic libass3 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) -- ** JAGANADH G http://jaganadhg.freeflux.net/blog ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [TAMTRANS] some new words
On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 16:16 +0530, Vinod Parthasarathy wrote: 2009/11/10 Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com: hi, encode குறியீடு ஆக்கு for encode (verb) and குறியீடாக்கி for encoder. decode குறியீடு விலக்கு have a wide range of contexts.. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encoding encrypt மறைக்குறியீடாக்கம் for encryption. Verb will be மறைக்குறியீடாக்கு smiley நகைமுகம் decrypt Options for decryption are மறைவிலக்கம் and அசல் குறியீடாக்கம். உருத்திரிப்பு உருமீட்பு கோப்பின் உருத்திரித்து அனுப்புதல். கோப்பின் உருமீட்டல். -- ஆமாச்சு ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Carte Blanche - Computer Society of MIT
sir, suggestion : for wooing new people for FOSS. 1. keep some old computers - with low RAM HDD requirements - and install good distros like Ubuntu etc. to show people that they can install even on old PCs. 2. To show them how to install a linux distro in a PC (including dual booting) - step by step (if possible in printed format) 3. show them open office - 3.1 - instead of Office 4. show them how to use yahoo messenger (gYachi) and Skype - in FOSS software. 5. also show them the CDAC's eduBoss - particularly the one too make multiple choice questions - preparation (mainly for teachers, tutors,etc) 6. to show them the full connectivity incl. webcam (I use 9.10 - it works just out of the box in my laptop) 7. show them wifi (through a OLD laptop) 8. Printed sheet - having a lot of contacts, numbers, names, - who they can call for assistance (we can later make them as volunteers who will help other people, after using FOSS). 9. keep around 20 to 30 OLD PCs with FOSS software - for anyone to test, and use internet etc. hope you all dont laugh at these. with warm regards s.sivakumar 80561 37729 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 1:10 PM, prakash srinivasan asprakash...@rediffmail.com wrote: On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:15:11 +0530 wrote Hi, The Computer Society of Madras Institute of Technology, Anna University, is venturing to conduct next edition of Carte Blanche, a free software fest on Febraury 27 and 28 of 2010. The events that are planned are: * Demo stalls like the ones kept during Software Freedom Day. * Lectures on various FOSS topics, technical and otherwise. * Competitions using FOSS tools. * Programming contest in which teams have to create a new package to solve a day to day problem.(The package should be created using free software tools and its source code GPLed). * Workshops on creating packages, using free software embedded systems like Beagle Board etc. any suggestions, including new event ideas, what lectures people need etc., comments and criticisms are welcome. If any of you are interested in presenting a talk or conducting workshops on those days please contact us. Second day, I would like to conduct an workshop on Android mobile platform. The workshop will be concentrated on Android Mobile application development, Porting Android on ARM board, Simulator and Hardware demos,.etc. The idea is, parallely we can conduct two streams. One is on BB and another one is Android. Registered visitors can attend their desired workshop. Suggestions are welcome. -A-S-Prakash- ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [TAMTRANS] some new words
2009/11/10 amachu ramada...@amachu.net உருத்திரிப்பு உருமீட்பு IMO, the above is good. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Re: How powerful gambas is ??
Balachandar wrote: Kenneth Gonsalves law...@... writes: I think it is more of a toy - try dabo if you like. It has much wider support. Then what is the use of it.Is there any applications built using gambas.Can one build application using it or not??where it lags.. In the late 90s, there was a big push by many FOSS projects to develop Rapid Application Development environments for use under free Unixes since most of the MS Windows desktop programmers were comfortable with Visual Basic and Delphi rather than the commandline tools. Gambas is one of the VB inspired projects which actually released a usable product and is usable under X11. Lazarus is modelled upon Delphi and is written in Free Pascal and works in both Unixes and Windows. Gambas is useful if you know VB and want something similar under X11 and works in both KDE and GNOME. Try this page for software done using Gambas : http://freshmeat.net/tags/gambas To learn a bit about the capabilities of Gambas go through this wikibook : http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Gambas There are not many FOSS applications built using Gambas or Lazarus mainly because Basic and Pascal have the reputaion of being bondage-and-discipline languages. Gambas has a further disadvantage in that it is not usable under Windows. Lazarus seems to be more used under Windows than Unixes since it follows the philosophy of write once, compile anywhere and has a robust Windows user base. Dabo written in python is much younger(apparently from 2004) when compared to Gambas(1999). It's main draw seems to be that it is not a yet another web framework (YAWF) written in python and is cross-platform as it is based on wxPython. The only other desktop framework in Python I am aware of is kiwi which is based on pyGTK, so mostly X11 specific. The newly released Ubuntu's quickly (https://launchpad.net/quickly) seems to include kiwi as a dependency - not sure of this. On the Ruby side I am aware of Shoes http://github.com/shoes/shoes as a desktop counterpart to Ruby-on-Rails. I am not aware of a Dabo or Shoes package for any Linux distribution. All the other packages are available in various distribution repos. Disclaimer: I am not a VB, Delphi, Python or Ruby programmer though I can read code in those languages and mostly understand them. All the above is very incomplete and just based on stuff I read while being bored. Regards, Senthil ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Carte Blanche - Computer Society of MIT
Hello Skype is not free software. However, showing that proprietary software can also be run when needed by the person concerned is certainly helpful. Skype is now open sorce! Its open source version is released recently. http://share.skype.com/sites/linux/2009/11/skype_open_source.html -- With regards, Kannan. R. P, Blog @: http://kannan4k.wordpress.com/ ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Carte Blanche - Computer Society of MIT
On 11/10/2009 10:45 PM, Kannan wrote: Hello Skype is not free software. However, showing that proprietary software can also be run when needed by the person concerned is certainly helpful. Skype is now open sorce! Its open source version is released recently. http://share.skype.com/sites/linux/2009/11/skype_open_source.html Not really. Their protocol library is going to remain closed. The uninteresting UI bits are going to be open sourced. No real change. Rahul ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [TAMTRANS] some new words
On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 19:59 +0530, Vinod Parthasarathy wrote: I was primarily looking at the electronic encoding. But, even though the meanings vary slightly depending on the context(specifically, only the source and target format varies), the base meaning(conversion of information from one format to another) remains the same, and that is what the translation captures. there is another context that we deal with, font encoding where I normally translate it as எழுத்துருவாக்கம் -- ஆமாச்சு ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] [ANN][X-Post] SciPy India 2009 - Call for Papers
Call for Presentations == The SciPy India 2009 Program Committee is currently developing the conference program. We are seeking presentations from industry as well as the academic world. We look forward to hearing your recent breakthroughs using Python! Please read the full 'call for papers' http://scipy.in/talks-cfp/. SciPy India 2009 Conference --- The first 'SciPy India Conference' http://scipy.in will be held from December 12th to 17th, 2009 at the 'Technopark in Trivandrum'http://www.technopark.org/, Kerala, India. The theme of the conference will be Scientific Python in Action with respect to application and teaching. We are pleased to have Travis Oliphant, the creator and lead developer of 'numpy' http://numpy.scipy.orgas the keynote speaker. Please register here http://scipy.in. Important Dates --- * Friday, Nov. 20: Abstracts Due * Friday, Nov. 27: Announce accepted talks, post schedule * Saturday-Sunday, Dec. 12-13: Conference * Monday-Tuesday, Dec. 14-15: Tutorials * Wednesday-Thursday, Dec. 16-17: Sprints Organizers -- * Jarrod Millman, Neuroscience Institute, UC Berkeley, USA (Conference Co-Chair) * Prabhu Ramachandran, Department of Aerospace Engineering, IIT Bombay, India (Conference Co-Chair) * FOSSEE Team Sponsors * National Mission On Education through ICT - Ministry of Human Resource Development, Government of India * SPACE-Kerala (India) * Kerala State IT Mission(KSITM) * SIG-FOSS Of CSIy -- Check out my blog at http://kadambarid.livejournal.com ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [TAMTRANS] some new words
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:06 PM, amachu ramada...@amachu.net wrote: On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 19:59 +0530, Vinod Parthasarathy wrote: I was primarily looking at the electronic encoding. But, even though the meanings vary slightly depending on the context(specifically, only the source and target format varies), the base meaning(conversion of information from one format to another) remains the same, and that is what the translation captures. there is another context that we deal with, font encoding where I normally translate it as எழுத்துருவாக்கம் what about font generation? -- Asokan Pichai *---* We will find a way. Or, make one. (Hannibal) ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [TAMTRANS] some new words
2009/11/10 amachu ramada...@amachu.net On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 19:59 +0530, Vinod Parthasarathy wrote: I was primarily looking at the electronic encoding. But, even though the meanings vary slightly depending on the context(specifically, only the source and target format varies), the base meaning(conversion of information from one format to another) remains the same, and that is what the translation captures. there is another context that we deal with, font encoding where I normally translate it as எழுத்துருவாக்கம் That is fine. One can always come up with a new word for each type of encoding, or use the base translation for encode and add the translation for the type (for example, font, electronic, genetic, semantic etc) separately. I just gave the base translation for the word encode. Vinod. -- ஆமாச்சு ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] விவேகானந்தா வித்தியாலயா பள ்ளி அறிவியல் கண ்காட்சியில் உப ுண்டு லினக்ஸ் அ றிமுகம்
வணக்கம். கடந்த 7-8,நவம்பர்-2009 ஆகிய இரண்டு தினங்களில் விவேகானந்தா வித்தியாலயா பள்ளி அறிவியல் கண்காட்சிக்கு ஏற்பாடு செய்ததுடன், உபுண்டு லினக்ஸ் மற்றும் அதிலுள்ள பயன்பாடுகள் பற்றிய அறிமுகம் செய்து காட்டவும் வாய்ப்பளிக்கப்பட்டது. கிட்டதட்ட 800க்கும் மேற்பட்ட மாணவ மாணவியர்கள் கண்காட்சியில் பங்கு பெற்று பயனடைந்தனர். நிகழ்ச்சியில் உபுண்டுவை வட்டு மூலம் எப்படி இயக்குவ மற்றும் அதை எப்படி நிறுவுவது பற்றியும் நேரடி காட்சி மூலம் விளக்கப்பட்டது. உபுண்டு வட்டுக்கள் கேட்டு வந்தவர்களுக்கு வட்டுக்கள் வழங்கப்பட்டன. மேலும் +2 மாணவர் சிலருக்ககு உபுண்டுவில் C புரொகிராமிங் செய்வது எப்படி என்றும் அறிமுகம் செய்து காண்பிக்கப்படது. நிகழ்ச்சியானது மிக்க பங்களிப்புடன் முடிவடைந்தது. நிகழ்ச்சி இனிதே நடந்திட இரவிச்சந்திரன்-சுதேசிய இயக்கத்திலிருந்தும், இராஜி, பாஸ்கர், ஆமாச்சு மற்றும் தங்மணி அருண் ஆகியோர் உபுண்டு தமிழ் மற்றும் லினக்ஸ்-பயனர்-குழுமம்-சென்னையில் இருந்தும் தன்னார்வத்துடன் முன்வந்து பங்களித்து உதவி புரிந்தமைக்கு நம்ம குழுமம் சார்பாக நெஞ்சார்ந்த வணக்கங்கள். இந்நிகழ்ச்சி பற்றிய ஆங்கல தொகுப்புக்கு இங்கே சொடுக்கவும்: http://foss-suvadugal.blogspot.com/ -- அன்புடன் அருண் -- http://ubuntu-tam.org http://lists.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-l10n-tam http://lists.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-tam -- ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Need suggestions on CRM
Friends. My friend's company needs a open source CRM to be implemented. Showed them VTigerCRM and SugarCRM. Need your suggestions and experiences on these things. How much they are useful? Seems sugercrm lacks in reports on community edition. is it so? Do you have any implementation success stories for any of the CRM? Please share. Thanks. -- Regards, T.Shrinivasan My experiences with Linux are here http://goinggnu.wordpress.com For Free and Open Source Jobs http://fossjobs.wordpress.com ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] [OT][x-POST] New programming language: Go
Just picked this off the news: http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2009/11/hey-ho-lets-go.html There's a youtube techtalk vid too. Opinions? -- Roshan Mathews http://teamtalk.im ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Carte Blanche - Computer Society of MIT
Dear Mr. kapil, 1. *showing them how to instal* I feel one of the stumbling blocks for installing linux (atleast for an average, regulat XP user, who has never installed anything on his own - they form atleast 40 % of the users ) particularly the partitioning, the initial setting up, the user groups, the authentication, the updating, the different desktop (gnome, kde) and dual booting. It was the same for me, though i had downloaded 8.10, when I bought my laptop in march 09, it took 2 months for me to install, as even the regular dealers / resellers were not aware and said it will take 1 day for them to install it. Now, I know how to install, and generally it takes only 20 to 30 minutes max. have helped people in installing atleast 30 to 40 persons (Mandriva, Ubuntu, Open suse, Pardus, PC inux) this long explanation is only to show, how much it is a mental block and how to remedy. 2. many (not all every) nowadays have chatting with their near dear - mainly with google talk, yahoo messenger SKYPE. and many have installed webcam - to have video chat, atleast the home users. when i installed many versions incl. 9.04, i found it difficult to get the webcam recognised (i have an integrated webcam in my laptop Lenovo 3000 G530). after addressing many times in the forum, i could not get it resolved. I just started using XP mainly for this. Now after clean installing U 9.10, automatically my webcam is recognised, and i have started using skype y. messenger. I have been ridiculed by my family (jokingly) and my XP friends - on this. this is just to show, how important is these small things, for a regular, average user, who otherwise have to go to XP only. So, showing them and helping them install these - by themselves - will make them the jump to FOSS. 3. *printed sheet of contacts - in and around chennai.* I feel obligated to help others in installing FOSS, since, many people helped me in showing, installing, and made me to respect the efforts of FOSS people. I feel the same will happen to people who get helped by us, who will later show it to others. I am free on sundays and will go to any place inside chennai to help them install FOSS. 4. *keeping old PCS and show them running.* i have been to the FOSS day, 2 months back - at birla planetarium. It was good, and i have seen many people - from 10 to 60 years - coming to the exhibition. Though most of them will be knowledgeable in WINDOWS, and maybe in FOSS too, There must be around 20 to 30 PCS - of the exhibitors, new not new. I could not see anyone offering them to use these PCs, for evaluation purposes. (I know it is not going to be easy enough for any one to open his personal PC / LAPTOP) to allow others to use. In LINUX, we can have a seperate user - and allow them to use, creaate, open, modify, delete, anything in that space. Hope I not mistaken in this. 5. I would love to meet anyone -ILUGC - people this week, and help in some making printing sheets - for circulation. also we can ask companies like NOVEL, to give us (or purchase) Open suse, and we can create karmic koala CDS, for giving it to those who are NEW to FOSS. 6. I have already been talking to Mr. srinivasan, verole, - CDAC, on the BOSS, eduBOSS. hope they can also participate in this, and help NEW people. can I also request myself to be included in the FOSS event, I stay at velacherry only. I am not a well versed person in WINDOWS nor LINUX. just an average person. thanks for the encouragement. s.sivakumar 80561 37729 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Kapil Hari Paranjape ka...@imsc.res.inwrote: Hello, On Tue, 10 Nov 2009, sivakumar bharadhwaj wrote: suggestion : for wooing new people for FOSS. Good to hear that you are thinking about this! 2. To show them how to install a linux distro in a PC (including dual booting) - step by step (if possible in printed format) Install once, run many times! Hence it is not clear to me that showing novices the steps of installation is really helpful. 4. show them how to use yahoo messenger (gYachi) and Skype - in FOSS software. Skype is not free software. However, showing that proprietary software can also be run when needed by the person concerned is certainly helpful. 8. Printed sheet - having a lot of contacts, numbers, names, - who they can call for assistance (we can later make them as volunteers who will help other people, after using FOSS). Also put in web sites and other sources of information! 9. keep around 20 to 30 OLD PCs with FOSS software - for anyone to test, and use internet etc. This is a nice idea with one small problem --- space/location. Where will you keep these demo machines? hope you all dont laugh at these. Not at all. Keep all the ideas flowing! Kapil. -- ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message.
Re: [Ilugc] Re: How powerful gambas is ??
From: Balachandar balachandarli...@gmail.com I think it is more of a toy - try dabo if you like. It has much wider support. Then what is the use of it.Is there any applications built using gambas.Can one build application using it or not??where it lags.. Yes, it is possible to build reasonable size applications using Gambas. This information is available on the Gambas website: http://gambasdoc.org/help/app?enview Between Gambas and Lazarus, I prefer Lazarus. The reason being that Lazarus allows you to use a lot of the Delphi components which are available. Also, I prefer object pascal to basic, but that is just a personal preference. Just one of the sites with loads of Delphi source code and components: http://delphi.icm.edu.pl/ Note that since Lazarus does not exactly match Delphi line to line, there may be changes needed to get some of these components working. Other options: 1. Monodevelop http://monodevelop.com/ 2. Also, may I know why you don't favour using Java? IDEs like Netbeans and Eclipse can be used to develop swing apps. Also, these IDEs have good tools for working with databases. If you prefer, you could use JavaFX to create some nifty GUIs and it is all fully supported within Netbeans and Eclipse. If you feel so inclined, you could build your application to use the Netbeans or Eclipse application frameworks and so you will get a lot of functionality for free. It is actually quite easy to do: For netbeans: http://www.javalobby.org/eps/netbeans_platform/ There are literally 1000s of programs using the Netbeans / Eclipse frameworks. 3. If you don't mind working with C++, you could use the QT, WxWidgets or the Gtk framework. 4. Ofcourse, if you prefer dynamic languages and you don't need an IDE for development, you could use Shoes for Ruby or the innumerable options available for Python. Regards, Prem ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] NAT box
thank you all for the reply. ftp is working fine after adding the iptable rules. now i have started to dig into port forwarding to find ways to make h323, sip work. we are doing this exercise to bring up a BRAS server (for testing purpose). its in this server we are adding the firewall rules to make ftp, sip, h323 etc work. we are not actually interested in configuring a complete BRAS. our goal is to test our product with the BRAS server. so we prefer a BRAS with basic functionality. the basic doubt that i have is, if NATing, conntracking, Masquerading are the functions of the BRAS. i believe a BRAS server (be it adsl or any broadband service) assigns a private IP address to the modem/PC. if this is the case, NATing/masquerading must happen somewhere in the ISP network. can someone give clarity in this regard? note: if this is not the right place to ask this question, i apologise for sending this mail. regards, Narendran -- All generalizations are false. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
