[Ilugc] Tech talk in Chennai?
Dear all, It has been a really long time since I did a tech talk for one day. It will be on a Sunday from 9 am to 4 pm or something. One tea break in the morning, one in the afternoon and a lunch break. Based on my experience now there is some data about how this works. If you charge 150 per head then that gives us allowance for providing tea/coffee and biscuits. The rest can go towards paying for the hall. In other words, Hall/place is the only problem. Moreover we also need a projector and about 10 PCs. People can share computers ; in fact I feel that it is even better than individual computers. In other words we are looking at a place with projectors and computers. So it is a hall + facilities for training. And based on experience I feel that a workshop/training is much better than a simple classroom of theory. This works very well with all experience levels; just have live code samples and little bit of theory to make a story. If this formula is adopted the hall business need not become somebody's obligation like ever before. I am tired of going to people asking for charity/help in arranging a venue. Now please guide me where in Chennai we can get a place like this. You know something about the business side of things. Assuming a minimum of 30 people turning up we have Rs.4500/- to work out the rest. In other words if we fund ourselves then there is no obligation anywhere. The college can make some money as well. Can some college help us? IIT's ADI-Tenet comes to mind but let us avoid IIT. Any thoughts? -Girish -- G3 Tech Networking appliance company web: http://g3tech.in mail: gir...@g3tech.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Topics for the tech talk
Dear all, This is further to the tech talk idea I mailed just now. The talk is at least a month away. Most likely it will be in December or January depending on the availability of hall and other logistics. Now as to topics, I can cover any of the following.Based on public vote I will declare the topic in a subsequent e-mail. Unfortunately I still dunno how to build a voting portal. :) So you can just reply to this mail with the preference. Here is the list I can cover. 1) Perl 2) jQuery and javascript 3) UNIX/Linux shell scripting 4) Networking and security(for sysadmins) 5) C, pointers and common examples(sockets, linked lists, common data structures) I won't do the topic 4) right away. Later only. Programming is what interests me. Networking class is more trouble and can't be done with several variables like now. -Girish -- G3 Tech Networking appliance company web: http://g3tech.in mail: gir...@g3tech.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Tech talk in Chennai?
You are welcome to my office. We are a training organization and we have a classroom with 20 computers -- ubuntu 10.10 IIRC --. Can seat 30+ Address is: 66 Gaudia Mutt Road Royappettah Right next to Gaudia Mutt A little ahead of Ponnuswamy Hotel 5 minutes walk from Music Academy -- Asokan Pichai *---* We will find a way. Or, make one. (Hannibal) ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] America Heading Towards The Internet Dictatorship?
The greedy Hollywood is about to change the world as we know it. The entertainment industry which is failing to keep up with the innovation and is relying on Flintstone's model is conspiring with the US congress to break the Internet and freedom on the web. http://www.muktware.com/blogs/2948 -- bSwapnil Bhartiya/bbr Editor: Muktware.combr Skype: No Way...its non-free. Looking for alternativesbr Facebook: http://facebook.com/muktwarebr Twitter: http://twitter.com/muktware Google+ : https://plus.google.com/109027644713767623413/posts ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] America Heading Towards The Internet Dictatorship?
http://www.muktware.com/blogs/2948 Would you please not share everything you come across ? It has little relevance to ilugc. http://www.ilugc.in/content/frequently-asked-questions 1) What is ILUGC all about ? Indian Linux Users' Group, Chennai aka ILUGC aka ChennaiLUG, is just that, a group of GNU/Linux and other Free/Open Source Software users from the city of Chennai/Madras in Tamilnadu, South India. -- 0 ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Fwd: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indian Language wikipedia Statistics – 2011 Septembe
-- Forwarded message -- From: Shiju Alex sh...@wikimedia.org Date: 10 Nov 2011 19:40 Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indian Language wikipedia Statistics – 2011 September To: Wikimedia India Community list wikimediaindi...@lists.wikimedia.org Dear Wikimedians, I have compiled the statistical report of Indian language wikipedias for the month of 2011 September. It is available here: http://shijualex.wordpress.com/2011/11/10/indian-language-wikipedia-statistics-2011-september/ http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_-_India_Programs/Indic_Languages/Statistics/2011_September Shiju ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list wikimediaindi...@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] America Heading Towards The Internet Dictatorship?
Hi, On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 4:10 PM, 0 0...@0throot.com wrote: http://www.muktware.com/blogs/2948 Would you please not share everything you come across ? It has little relevance to ilugc. It depends on your perspective on Free / Open Source Software. If you look at it just as a collaborative way of building software, the OP may sound off-topic. But if you understand the true essence of Free Software [1], which is freedom to the computer users rather than a technical approach to software development, it is well related to ILUGC (remeber we don't talk only about *Linux*). [1] www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html -- Vignesh Nandha Kumar ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] America Heading Towards The Internet Dictatorship?
On 11/16/2011 12:40 PM, விக்னேஷ் நந்த குமார் (Vignesh Nandha Kumar) wrote: Hi, On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 4:10 PM, 00...@0throot.com wrote: http://www.muktware.com/blogs/2948 Would you please not share everything you come across ? It has little relevance to ilugc. AFAIK, ILUC is not just about Linux, the kernel. It's also about *Free Software*. FSF and EFF are fighting to oppose these bills as they take control over our computing. These bills also aspire to break the Internet as we know it. How can it not be of significance? -- Swapnil Bhartiya ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] America Heading Towards The Internet Dictatorship?
But if you understand the true essence of Free Software [1], which is freedom to the computer users rather than a technical approach to software development, it is well related to ILUGC (remeber we don't talk only about *Linux*). I agree with your argument on the definition of free. But, in this current context we are talking about Internet in US as free which is just out of scope of this list, in my opinion. And, besides, the issue is related to American legislature where we don't have any role. A debate on the topic is not much useful to us since there is nothing much we can do about it, other than learn a couple of things about the corruption in American system. But if you would like to change the debate towards something similar happening in India. My opinion might be entirely different. -- 0 ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] America Heading Towards The Internet Dictatorship?
I agree with your argument on the definition of free. But, in this current context we are talking about Internet in US as free which is just out of scope of this list, in my opinion. And, besides, the issue is related to American legislature where we don't have any role. A debate on the topic is not much useful to us since there is nothing much we can do about it, other than learn a couple of things about the corruption in American system. Internet is not the problem of the US. If the Protect IP and SOAP bills are passed they can bring the Internet down which will affect everyone. The Internet is not region specific -- we all are connected. The Internet is like the climate of Earth, doesn't matter who started the global warming it will kill us all. So, in my humble opinion it is of extreme importance. Swapnil -- bSwapnil Bhartiya/bbr Editor: Muktware.combr Skype: No Way...its non-free. Looking for alternativesbr Facebook: http://facebook.com/muktwarebr Twitter: http://twitter.com/muktware Google+ : https://plus.google.com/109027644713767623413/posts ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] America Heading Towards The Internet Dictatorship?
AFAIK, ILUC is not just about Linux, the kernel. It's also about *Free Software*. FSF and EFF are fighting to oppose these bills as they take control over our computing. These bills also aspire to break the Internet as we know it. How can it not be of significance? My argument is not about significance of the issue, it is about relevance to the list. And, the discussion is not about the news but the article that has been shared. I still do think, the article is out of scope of this list, my reply for the argument on definition of free applies here. -- 0 ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] America Heading Towards The Internet Dictatorship?
Internet is not the problem of the US. If the Protect IP and SOAP bills are passed they can bring the Internet down which will affect everyone. The Internet is not region specific -- we all are connected. Agreed. As an individual, here in Chennai, what can I do about it ? Within my limited thinking capabilities, I couldn't come up with anything. Its a political problem which the American people have to stand against. -- 0 ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] America Heading Towards The Internet Dictatorship?
I agree with your argument on the definition of free. But, in this current context we are talking about Internet in US as free which is just out of scope of this list, in my opinion. And, besides, the issue is related to American legislature where we don't have any role. A debate on the topic is not much useful to us since there is nothing much we can do about it, other than learn a couple of things about the corruption in American system. So, you are suggesting that the news is not relevant to the list even if it is all about opposing the dangerous bill. A quote from the article: This bill would establish a system for taking down websites that the Justice Department determines to be dedicated to copyright infringement. The DoJ or the copyright owner would be able to commence a legal action against any site they deem to have only limited purpose or use other than infringement, and the DoJ would be allowed to demand that search engines, social networking sites and domain name services block access to the targeted site. It would also make unauthorized web streaming of copyrighted content a felony with a possible penalty up to five years in prison. *a legal action against any site* Since you said it has nothing to do with India, let me quote the article again: EFF writes, Proponents of the latest disastrous IP bill , the “Stop Online Piracy Act” (SOPA) insist it only targets the “worst of the worst”: so-called “rogue” foreign websites that profit from pirating U.S. intellectual property. But the broad definitions and vague language in the bill could place dangerous tools into the hands of IP rights holders, with little opportunity for judicial oversight. One very possible outcome: many of the lawful sites you know and love will face new legal threats. *foreign websites that profit from pirating U.S. intellectual property.* India is a foreign country for the US. You still think the article is irrelevant to the list and to India? Swapnil But if you would like to change the debate towards something similar happening in India. My opinion might be entirely different. -- bSwapnil Bhartiya/bbr Editor: Muktware.combr Skype: No Way...its non-free. Looking for alternativesbr Facebook: http://facebook.com/muktwarebr Twitter: http://twitter.com/muktware Google+ : https://plus.google.com/109027644713767623413/posts ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] America Heading Towards The Internet Dictatorship?
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:33 PM, 0 0...@0throot.com wrote: But, in this current context we are talking about Internet in US as free which is just out of scope of this list, in my opinion. And, besides, the issue is related to American legislature where we don't have any role. A debate on the topic is not much useful to us since there is nothing much we can do about it, other than learn a couple of things about the corruption in American system. 1. Learning is good. 2. US of A controls the parts of internet that for all practical purposes is a major portion of our use. It controls most blogging providers, cloud services, GMail, all .net, .org, and .com domains (which I can see you are using; If you care about USA telling Verisign to cut your domain off from DNS then you should know about this. ;-) ). -- அகிலன் (Akilan R) [ blog.akilan.in ] *I should have no use for a paradise in which I should be deprived of the right to prefer hell.* --Jean Rostand ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] America Heading Towards The Internet Dictatorship?
Hi Swapnil, On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya swapnil.bhart...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.muktware.com/blogs/2948 I have seen you post the links from the same website often. Pardon me if I am wrong. Will there be any problem in posting the contents of the article directly and not market the personal site? -- Mohi ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] America Heading Towards The Internet Dictatorship?
I have seen you post the links from the same website often. Pardon me if I am wrong. Will there be any problem in posting the contents of the article directly and not market the personal site? Often? No. Once in a while and that too of importance yes. I did not know that Linus Torvalds' exclusive interview should have not been posted on Linux Users Group. It's not a 'personal' blog, it's news website. If the list has issues I won't post anything from now own wards. -- Mohi ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc -- bSwapnil Bhartiya/bbr Editor: Muktware.combr Skype: No Way...its non-free. Looking for alternativesbr Facebook: http://facebook.com/muktwarebr Twitter: http://twitter.com/muktware Google+ : https://plus.google.com/109027644713767623413/posts ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Workshop on scilab and R
-- Forwarded message -- From: Sumathi C P drcpsuma...@gmail.com Date: 16 Nov 2011 18:08 Subject: Re: Workshops in Vaishnav To: Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.com Sir, Our college (S.D.N.B. Vaishnav College for Women) is organizing a two days workshop on Research Tools in Scientific Computing on 18th and 19th of Nov. 2011. It covers topics of scilab and 'R' language- starting from their installation, programming aspects, their application in Mathematics and Statistics and in general research. It is open to all. For further details visit our site www.sdnbvc.com/ncamcs2012. Dr.C.P.Sumathi. Head Associate Prof. Department of Computer Science S.D.N.B.Vaishnav College for Women. Chromepet, Chennai- 600 044. Phone:- 9444808809. On 3 November 2011 12:08, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.com wrote: hello madam. thanks for the interest on scilab workshops. please find below the contact details of hod, vaishnav college. we are planning to conduct one day workshop on scilab for research scholars on Nov 18 or 19. please talk to sumathi madam. dr.sumathi drcpsuma...@gmail.com +919444808809 thanks a lot. On 3 Nov 2011 10:25, Reshmi Pillai 80rpil...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Sir, This is Reshmi, colleague to Shyama, Event Manager for South. We were excited to hear about your enthusiasm in the Spoken Tutorial Project. Please give us your college address to which we can send you the publicity materials and the FOSS cd's Also please give me your contact number . Many thanks, Reshmi Pillai Project Manager Spoken Tutorial Project Website- http://spoken-tutorial.org Automation Lab, Chemical Engineering Department Indian Institute of Technology Bombay Powai, Mumbai- 400 076, Maharashtra, INDIA Contact No: 022 2576 4229 09769532779 ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] America Heading Towards The Internet Dictatorship?
services, GMail, all .net, .org, and .com domains (which I can see you are using; If you care about USA telling Verisign to cut your domain off from DNS then you should know about this. ;-) ). I am aware, Let us keep the debate healthy and not get deep into the personal aspects. -- 0 ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] America Heading Towards The Internet Dictatorship?
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:58 PM, 0 0...@0throot.com wrote: Agreed. As an individual, here in Chennai, what can I do about it ? Within my limited thinking capabilities, I couldn't come up with anything. Its a political problem which the American people have to stand against. Yes, we don't have much to do about it, but sharing a bad thing happening around need not be taken as a call for action. It can be just an effort to create awareness on the issue. Also, voice from outside the country may encourage the Americans to look into the issue and raise their voice as well. *Sharing* is an essential part of Free Software, after all. May be if the OP had added [OT] tag, this debate wouldn't have started. -- Vignesh Nandha Kumar ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] America Heading Towards The Internet Dictatorship?
It's not a 'personal' blog, it's news website. If the list has issues I won't post anything from now own wards. AFAIK, There is no rule on the mailing list which says, commercial organizations shouldn't send an email for commercial gain. So, you don't have to go that far as to even think about not posting. Please do continue to contribute to the list, in the spirit of FOSS. -- 0 ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] America Heading Towards The Internet Dictatorship?
May be if the OP had added [OT] tag, this debate wouldn't have started. I agree. May be, I should have mentioned *that* in my first reply. But, anyways, a healthy debate is good for the list, gets us thinking. http://www.ilugc.in/content/mailinglist-guidelines 4. Use [OT] for off-topic, non-technical discussions. But, don't misuse this to start flame wars or to troll in the mailing list. -- 0 ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Ekiga 3.3.2
Hi, I am using Ekiga 3.3.2 in ubuntu 11.10 . I want to use h264 video codecs for video. But that option is not available readily in Ekiga 3.3.2 linux version, which is available in windows version. How to enable h264 in ubuntu. Thank you With Regards, Kavin. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] A Terminal Chat Application
Dear folks, Myself(S. Prasanna Venkadesh http://prasopensource.wordpress.com) and S.Sathianarayanan(http://sathia27.wordpress.com/) has created a terminal application called WHIZ-CHAT - through wh application caich Debian / Ubuntu Linux users can do the following on their Google account from terminal itself: 1. Login and set Status Message. 2. Check number of Unread Mails. 3. Chat with the contacts in your Gmail Account. 4. Get voice notifications. Here is our page that consists of the source code ( https://github.com/PrasannaVenkadesh/Whiz-Chat/downloads), and i request to take a look at README.txt features.rdoc file before running for first time. Inspiration: Most of the linux users spends time either in Web-Browser or in Terminal, and we were thinking how nice it would be if we are able to chat from terminal itself instead of opening a Web-browser. This saves your processor from consuming more power (since no GUI), Faster than Web-browser, and especially for those who use internet via mobile phone would love it because using internet from mobile and opening Gmail account takes nearly 10 min and our app log in into your chat box in just 10 seconds (Max.). This was our inspiration to develop this and future versions will be still more better. And we love any sort of feedback from you. -- Regards, Prasanna Venkadesh PuduvaiLUG (puduvai Linux Users Group): http://puduvailug.wordpress.com/ FOSS Jobs all over India: http://fossjobs.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Tech talk in Chennai?
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Asokan Pichai paso...@gmail.com wrote: You are welcome to my office. We are a training organization and we have a classroom with 20 computers -- ubuntu 10.10 IIRC --. Can seat 30+ Address is: 66 Gaudia Mutt Road Royappettah Right next to Gaudia Mutt A little ahead of Ponnuswamy Hotel 5 minutes walk from Music Academy Wonderful. Let us talk offline. Many thanks for your support. Fits the bill perfectly. -Girish -- G3 Tech Networking appliance company web: http://g3tech.in mail: gir...@g3tech.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] A Terminal Chat Application
Greetings, On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Prasanna Venkadesh prasmai...@gmail.com wrote: Dear folks, Myself(S. Prasanna Venkadesh http://prasopensource.wordpress.com) and S.Sathianarayanan(http://sathia27.wordpress.com/) has created a terminal application called WHIZ-CHAT - through wh application caich Debian / Ubuntu Linux users can do the following on their Google account from terminal itself: 1. Login and set Status Message. 2. Check number of Unread Mails. 3. Chat with the contacts in your Gmail Account. 4. Get voice notifications. Here is our page that consists of the source code ( https://github.com/PrasannaVenkadesh/Whiz-Chat/downloads), and i request to take a look at README.txt features.rdoc file before running for first time. Inspiration: Most of the linux users spends time either in Web-Browser or in Terminal, and we were thinking how nice it would be if we are able to chat from terminal itself instead of opening a Web-browser. This saves your processor from consuming more power (since no GUI), Faster than Web-browser, and especially for those who use internet via mobile phone would love it because using internet from mobile and opening Gmail account takes nearly 10 min and our app log in into your chat box in just 10 seconds (Max.). This was our inspiration to develop this and future versions will be still more better. And we love any sort of feedback from you. Great Job! Have you looked at talk or screen or write which are already available? Just a thought. I have used these for support across continents using comand line. -- Regards, Rajagopal ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] A Terminal Chat Application
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Prasanna Venkadesh prasmai...@gmail.com wrote: Dear folks, Myself(S. Prasanna Venkadesh http://prasopensource.wordpress.com) and S.Sathianarayanan(http://sathia27.wordpress.com/) has created a terminal application called WHIZ-CHAT - through wh application caich Debian / Ubuntu Linux users can do the following on their Google account from terminal itself: 1. Login and set Status Message. 2. Check number of Unread Mails. 3. Chat with the contacts in your Gmail Account. 4. Get voice notifications. Here is our page that consists of the source code ( https://github.com/PrasannaVenkadesh/Whiz-Chat/downloads), and i request to take a look at README.txt features.rdoc file before running for first time. Inspiration: Most of the linux users spends time either in Web-Browser or in Terminal, and we were thinking how nice it would be if we are able to chat from terminal itself instead of opening a Web-browser. This saves your processor from consuming more power (since no GUI), Faster than Web-browser, and especially for those who use internet via mobile phone would love it because using internet from mobile and opening Gmail account takes nearly 10 min and our app log in into your chat box in just 10 seconds (Max.). This was our inspiration to develop this and future versions will be still more better. And we love any sort of feedback from you. Super. Congrats. First thought: Why don't you put this up on sf.net? Sourceforge will give you lot of exposure and capabilities. Are you using Google's APIs? UNIX even today does not have a neat conferencing tool on the console. We have xchat but that is a boring GUI. Only available choice is irssi or icb. Can you elaborate if you are using nCurses? Also I believe using Google API is neat because these days everyone has a Gmail account. However this should also work with UNIX usernames. That is my idea. Sorry for hijacking the thread. Best of luck and may God bless you with success. -Girish ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] A Terminal Chat Application
And we love any sort of feedback from you. I like the idea and it is good to see that you have implemented it. Looking at the code, I notice that there several things that needs to be done to bring it to a reasonable quality. - Proper Indentation of code - Try avoiding system() as much as possible - 'reset' will clear the terminal emulator's (xterm) history find alternative. I don't know Ruby so I cannot comment on code any further. Ruby experts in the list might be able to help you better. I did try to do the setup but ruby gloriously crashes with libc's buffer overflow error. $ sudo gem install gmail *** buffer overflow detected ***: /usr/bin/ruby terminated === Backtrace: = /lib/libc.so.6(__fortify_fail+0x4d)[0x5dec5d] $ gem list *** LOCAL GEMS *** colorize (0.5.8) highline (1.5.1) mime (0.1) mime-types (1.17.2) xmpp4r (0.5) xmpp4r-simple (0.8.8) -- 0 ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Fwd: [chennai.rb] [ANN][OT][X-Post] CodeRetreat in India on global CodeRetreat day - 3rd December
-- Forwarded message -- From: Niranjan Paranjape niranjan@gmail.com Date: 16 Nov 2011 21:01 Subject: [chennai.rb] [ANN][OT][X-Post] CodeRetreat in India on global CodeRetreat day - 3rd December To: bangalore...@googlegroups.com, puner...@googlegroups.com, chenna...@googlegroups.com, m...@googlegroups.com, kerala...@googlegroups.com, bangpyp...@python.org [cross posting as it is relevant to a wider audience ] Hi, Bangalore, Chennai, Delhi and Pure are participating in the Global Day of Coderetreat 2011! Coderetreat is a day-long, intensive practice event focused on the fundamentals of software development and design.The unique coderetreat format (which eliminates the pressure of 'getting things done' and focuses on practicing basic principles of good design) has proven to be a highly effective (and fun) means of skill improvement. Check out to Corey Haines's coderetreat site (http://coderetreat.com) if you want further details on what to expect. On December 3rd, Coderetreats will be held at cities all over the world. It's going to be a lot of fun! You can register at: Bangalore: http://blr-global-coderetreat-11.doattend.com/ Chennai: http://chennai-global-coderetreat-11.doattend.com/ Delhi: http://delhi-global-coderetreat-11.doattend.com/ Pune: http://pune-global-coderetreat-11.doattend.com/ You only need to bring a laptop with the development tools you require to write code using your chosen programming languages. A breakfast and lunch will be provided. Please spread the word amongst other developers and mailing lists. This event is hosted by ITT (Innovation Technology Trust) and co-sponsored by ThoughtWorks and C42 Engineering. If you have any problems registering, or have any other questions, feel free to contact me (niran...@c42.in). Regards, Niranjan. C42 Engineering. g-talk: niran...@c42.iny!: niranja...@yahoo.combusiness: niran...@c42.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
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[Ilugc] Fwd: [chennaiocc] Looking for Embedded systems design firms
please contact deepak if you know anyone. -- Forwarded message -- From: Deepak deepak.b...@gmail.com Date: 16 Nov 2011 08:50 Subject: [chennaiocc] Looking for Embedded systems design firms To: Chennai Open Coffee Club chennai...@googlegroups.com Hi, I need to get a product designed and am thus looking for contacts to embedded system design companies adept at working with device drivers and data streams to develop new software and hardware. If you have any contacts / links to such companies, please share. Thanks, Deepak ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] A Terminal Chat Application
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Girish Venkatachalam girishvenkatacha...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Prasanna Venkadesh prasmai...@gmail.com wrote: Dear folks, Linux users can do the following on their Google account from terminal itself: 1. Login and set Status Message. 2. Check number of Unread Mails. 3. Chat with the contacts in your Gmail Account. 4. Get voice notifications. Inspiration: Most of the linux users spends time either in Web-Browser or in Terminal, and we were thinking how nice it would be if we are able to chat from terminal itself instead of opening a Web-browser. This saves your processor from consuming more power (since no GUI), Faster than Web-browser, and especially for those who use internet via mobile phone would love it because using internet from mobile and opening Gmail account takes nearly 10 min and our app log in into your chat box in just 10 seconds (Max.). This was our inspiration to develop this and future versions will be still more better. And we love any sort of feedback from you. Super. Congrats. Thanks for your wishes. First thought: Why don't you put this up on sf.net? Yes, i had a thought of putting it and will surely put it in sourceforge, since i started to learn VCS using Git so i initially did all my commits there and got a account in Github and now its time to do it in Sourceforge soon after my semester exams are over :-) Are you using Google's APIs? No, we are not using Google's APIs but Rubygems that access the Google via XMPP Protocol. UNIX even today does not have a neat conferencing tool on the console. We have xchat but that is a boring GUI. yeah, i have tried it, not so experienced with it. Can you elaborate if you are using nCurses? No, initially i got advice to used nCurses but since Ruby already has a gem for colouring called Colorize i just used it. But am not sure using which is efficient and please help us to improve better. Also I believe using Google API is neat because these days everyone has a Gmail account. Thanks for your suggestion and just now looked on the Google API for ruby and found it. Will implement it soon and update it. However this should also work with UNIX usernames. I have to accept here i am not aware of UNIX usernames. You mean internal chat within the same network? That is my idea. Sorry for hijacking the thread. Best of luck and may God bless you with success. Thanks a lot. And am really loving the feedback and the support from you all :-) Linux is popular for its community support and i am proud to belong to this community. -- Regards, Prasanna Venkadesh PuduvaiLUG (puduvai Linux Users Group): http://puduvailug.wordpress.com/ FOSS Jobs all over India: http://fossjobs.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
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Re: [Ilugc] A Terminal Chat Application
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:14 PM, 0 0...@0throot.com wrote: And we love any sort of feedback from you. I like the idea and it is good to see that you have implemented it. Looking at the code, I notice that there several things that needs to be done to bring it to a reasonable quality. Your point is right. We need to make it a quality product. - Proper Indentation of code - Try avoiding system() as much as possible - 'reset' will clear the terminal emulator's (xterm) history find alternative. We have used 'reset' because the reason is the command 'history -c' clears only the history of commands used but not the chats that we exchanged using our app. When the terminal window is scrolled up it shows what all we had in chat, and its violating the privacy, so used reset to erase of everything. I don't know Ruby so I cannot comment on code any further. Ruby experts in the list might be able to help you better. Ya looking for their feedbacks too. I think our code should be packed well (like separating into individual modules). I did try to do the setup but ruby gloriously crashes with libc's buffer overflow error. :-( and finally thanks for your feedback and suggestions. :-) -- Regards, Prasanna Venkadesh PuduvaiLUG (puduvai Linux Users Group): http://puduvailug.wordpress.com/ FOSS Jobs all over India: http://fossjobs.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
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Re: [Ilugc] A Terminal Chat Application
We have used 'reset' because the reason is the command 'history -c' clears only the history of commands used but not the chats that we exchanged using our app. When the terminal window is scrolled up it shows what all we had in chat, and its violating the privacy, so used reset to erase of everything. Ah ok. reset is the right one to use here. But, what you really need is cup mode. Although, they are not supported in some terminal types. Cup mode is not very well documented so you might find a hard time getting details on them. Here is a short tutorial on that. On Unix Terminals, there is a feature to open an Alternate Screen which is essentially what cup mode is. To try it, you can do the following, $ echo -en \033[?1049h; clear; echo abcd; sleep 5; echo -en \033[?1049l The above commands create an alternate screen, stay on it for 5 seconds and exit to the original screen. The first echo line is to enter cup mode and the last echo line is to exit cup mode. And, To check whether a terminal supports cup mode, you can do the following, $ infocmp vt100 | grep smcup #vt100 doesn't support cup $ infocmp xterm | grep smcup #xterm supports cup sgr0=\E(B\E[m, smacs=\E(0, smam=\E[?7h, smcup=\E[?1049h, -- 0 ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] [TIP] perl script for downloading using HTTP
Before I begin I have to thank Balachandran Shivakumar for his
suggestion to add
the Host header. I have done that in the C code as well as Perl. Many thanks.
I also appreciate his help.
Now this time around we are doing the same thing in perl. Tomorrow
will be Python.
Then we will shift gears.
Look at the code.
$ cat htdl.pl
#!/usr/bin/perl
use IO::Socket::INET;
$url = shift;
if($url !~ /\w/) {
die Please give URL to download!\n;
}
$url =~ /http:\/\/(.*?)\/(.*)/;
$host = $1;
$path = $2;
$2 =~ /.*\/(.*)/;
$file = $1;
$sock = IO::Socket::INET-new(PeerAddr = $host,
PeerPort = 'http(80)',
Proto = 'tcp');
if(!defined($sock)) {
die Could not open socket to $host\n;
}
print $sock GET /$path HTTP 1.1\r\n\r\nHost foo.bar\r\r\r\n;
open F, $file or die Could not open file in current dir, check perms\n;
read $sock, $buf, 8192;
$buf =~ s/(.*?)\r\n\r\n(.*)/$2/ms;
print Wrote . length($buf) . bytes to file\n;
print F $buf;
while($bytes = read $sock, $buf, 8192) {
print F $buf;
print Wrote $bytes to file\n;
}
close($sock);
close(F);
print Wrote $file to disk\n;
You can download from
ftp://tulip.pye.org/htdl.pl
The code with syntax highlighting
ftp://tulip.pye.org/htdl.pl.html
Now you have to run like yday
$ chmod +x htdl.pl
$ ./htdl.pl http://ftp.openssl.org/source/openssl-source-0.9.6.tar.gz
If your perl is not in /usr/bin, then you will have to change the shebang line.
You also can run it like this:
$ perl htdl.pl http://ftp.openssl.org/source/openssl-source-0.9.6.tar.gz
Now I will do a bit of code walkthro'.
Before that I did a performance benchmark. Both the C and perl
versions take the same time.
Lines 10 to 14 use regular expressions to split the URL into host,
file and path tokens.
However I should have used split like this.
($d, $d, $host, @path) = split /\//, $url;
$file = $path[$#path];
$path = join /, @path;
Instead I used the regex pattern capture operator () and the
backreference $1 to do the same thing.
The split idea would have been neat.
Anyway as you can see there is no need to do DNS is perl. It is a high
level language. Moreover number of lines also is
less not because I am using perl. It is because I am using the
IO::Socket::INET module.
I think this is not a separate CPAN module. It is a standard perl distribution.
In using that I avoided some 15 lines of painful code of opening a
socket, connecting and so on.
This does it in one stroke(line 16). Also it uses Perl OO.
Remaining stuff is opening a file handle F and writing to it using print.
print $foo
will write to standard output.
print $sock $foo
will write to the TCP, UDP or UNIX socket we open.
prinf F $foo
will write to the file descriptor opened with open() call of perl.
Doing socket I/O in perl is easy. Just like regular socket I/O in C
except that you don't have to use
buffers.Use scalars instead.
In both C and perl we are not using any HTTP library. So the header in
the response needs to be removed.
But tomorrow in python we see that this is not necessary since python
ships with httplib.
That is tomorrow.
-Girish
--
G3 Tech
Networking appliance company
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Re: [Ilugc] A Terminal Chat Application
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Prasanna Venkadesh prasmai...@gmail.comwrote: Myself(S. Prasanna Venkadesh http://prasopensource.wordpress.com) and S.Sathianarayanan(http://sathia27.wordpress.com/) has created a terminal application called WHIZ-CHAT - through wh application caich Debian / Ubuntu Linux users can do the following on their Google account from terminal itself: Nice. Congrats. Its so nice to see practical apps being developed. Regards, Arun ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] America Heading Towards The Internet Dictatorship?
On Wed, 2011-11-16 at 13:38 +0100, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: I have seen you post the links from the same website often. Pardon me if I am wrong. Will there be any problem in posting the contents of the article directly and not market the personal site? Often? No. Once in a while and that too of importance yes. I did not know that Linus Torvalds' exclusive interview should have not been posted on Linux Users Group. It's not a 'personal' blog, it's news website. If the list has issues I won't post anything from now own wards. please continue - you are doing good work and your site needs to be encouraged. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] America Heading Towards The Internet Dictatorship?
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 11:49 AM, kenneth gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.comwrote: On Wed, 2011-11-16 at 13:38 +0100, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: I have seen you post the links from the same website often. Pardon me if I am wrong. Will there be any problem in posting the contents of the article directly and not market the personal site? Often? No. Once in a while and that too of importance yes. I did not know that Linus Torvalds' exclusive interview should have not been posted on Linux Users Group. It's not a 'personal' blog, it's news website. If the list has issues I won't post anything from now own wards. please continue - you are doing good work and your site needs to be encouraged. Swapnil, I(I hope with others) dont see any problem in the link or the topic you had sent. Please continue your contribution. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] America Heading Towards The Internet Dictatorship?
Swapnil, I(I hope with others) dont see any problem in the link or the topic you had sent. Please continue your contribution. +1 Please continue. ...KRS ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Setting up mirror server and database server in Sync
Hi, I introduce myself as Sathish kumar. Basically web application developer in LAMP technology. I would like to know about setting-up mirror server and database server in sync mode. we have one server at one Geo-location and we need to set-up another server at another Geo-location on different network. Same application will be running in both server, and separate Database server running on each on various host ip. All database operations will be done at both server. So that i need to set-up both databases always in synchronize with each other. It would be grateful if anyone give idea or suggestion on doing the same. Thanks. Regards , Sathish.M Kumar ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Setting up mirror server and database server in Sync
On Thu, 2011-11-17 at 13:02 +0530, Sathish M Kumar wrote: I introduce myself as Sathish kumar. Basically web application developer in LAMP technology. I would like to know about setting-up mirror server and database server in sync mode. we have one server at one Geo-location and we need to set-up another server at another Geo-location on different network. Same application will be running in both server, and separate Database server running on each on various host ip. All database operations will be done at both server. So that i need to set-up both databases always in synchronize with each other. please specify which database and which programming language you are using. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Setting up mirror server and database server in Sync
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Sathish M Kumar nmsksath...@gmail.com wrote: All database operations will be done at both server. So that i need to set-up both databases always in synchronize with each other. Look up on Database Replication[1]. And what Database are you running? If its postgres check out http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Replication,_Clustering,_and_Connection_Pooling [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_(computer_science)#Database_replication -- Sudharshan S http://sudharsh.wordpress.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Setting up mirror server and database server in Sync
Application in on PHP, Database server is mysql and also postgresql for another kind of application. So MySql and Postgresql. Regards , Sathish.M Kumar On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Sudharshan S sudha...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Sathish M Kumar nmsksath...@gmail.com wrote: All database operations will be done at both server. So that i need to set-up both databases always in synchronize with each other. Look up on Database Replication[1]. And what Database are you running? If its postgres check out http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Replication,_Clustering,_and_Connection_Pooling [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_(computer_science)#Database_replication -- Sudharshan S http://sudharsh.wordpress.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
