Re: [Ilugc] swing plugin fo eclipse in ubuntu 10:10

[Arun Venkataswamy]

On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 10:53 AM, saravana babu wrote:

> I am searching for swing plugin in eclipse(ubuntu 10:10).I need url to
> download  swing plugin.please help me.
>
>
Do you want to develop swing apps in Eclipse?

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Re: [Ilugc] Foss based solutions providing Organizations in TamilNadu

[Karthikeyan A.K]

We do,

Contact me at +91 9444018524

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Shrinivasan T wrote:

> Friends.
>
> We are planning to interview the people who do business in TamilNadu
> based on Free Open Source Software.
> They will be published in ILUGC site and in Kaniyam.
>
> Reply here if you know such Commercial organizations that provides
> support, training, development, service, customizations,
> implementations etc for Free/Open Source Software.
>
> You can add the details here too.
>
>
> http://wiki.ilugc.in/index.php?title=Foss_based_solutions_providing_Organizations
>
> Thanks.
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Re: [Ilugc] Foss based solutions providing Organizations in TamilNadu

[Shrinivasan T]

On Aug 29, 2012 2:39 PM, "Karthikeyan A.K"  wrote:
>
> We do,
>
> Contact me at +91 9444018524
>

see the wiki.
update the wiki page with your details or give all the details here.

i Will update the wiki on behalf of you.
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Re: [Ilugc] Foss based solutions providing Organizations in TamilNadu

[Karthikeyan A.K]

That's a complex task. I can't.

On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Shrinivasan T wrote:

> On Aug 29, 2012 2:39 PM, "Karthikeyan A.K"  wrote:
> >
> > We do,
> >
> > Contact me at +91 9444018524
> >
>
> see the wiki.
> update the wiki page with your details or give all the details here.
>
> i Will update the wiki on behalf of you.
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Re: [Ilugc] Foss based solutions providing Organizations in TamilNadu

[satyaakam goswami]

On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Karthikeyan A.K  wrote:
> That's a complex task. I can't.
@Srinivas have a simple form in google doc or some place then put the
info wherever or what ever form you  want  , i have seen people being
very uncomfortable  with wiki style :P


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Re: [Ilugc] Foss based solutions providing Organizations in TamilNadu

[Rajagopal Swaminathan]

Greetings,

On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 6:27 PM, satyaakam goswami  wrote:
> @Srinivas have a simple form in google doc or some place then put the
> info wherever or what ever form you  want  , i have seen people being
> very uncomfortable  with wiki style :P
>
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Re: [Ilugc] Foss based solutions providing Organizations in TamilNadu

[Arun Venkataswamy]

On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 6:27 PM, satyaakam goswami wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Karthikeyan A.K 
> wrote:
> > That's a complex task. I can't.
> @Srinivas have a simple form in google doc or some place then put the
> info wherever or what ever form you  want  , i have seen people being
> very uncomfortable  with wiki style :P
>

+1
One initial attempt of submitting photos and I never tried again.

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Re: [Ilugc] Foss based solutions providing Organizations in TamilNadu

[Shrinivasan T]

> see the wiki.
> update the wiki page with your details or give all the details here.

I asked to give all the details here, if editing wiki is tough.
I dont think sending email is tough :-)

>> @Srinivas have a simple form in google doc or some place then put the
>> info wherever or what ever form you  want  , i have seen people being
>> very uncomfortable  with wiki style :P

if we use google docs, for each form submission, I have to copy and
paste the data into wiki. Imagine 100s of form submissions, I have to
keep on doing the same copy paste work for the whole day.

If any organization want to get some publicity for free, adding their
info themself wont be a huge task.

The entire wikipedia is working with the same very uncomfortable wiki style :P

Learning wiki editing is like learning GNU/Linux Commands.
It has a steep learning curve but has its own advantages.
Editing a wiki page is a easiest way to share our knowledge as a
contribution to the community.

As I told already, I have requested to give the details here in the
list so that anyone can add in the wiki page. :-)

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Re: [Ilugc] Foss based solutions providing Organizations in TamilNadu

[chidambaresan ananthan]

As a foss based organization they must know how to use wiki..because
wiki pays more attention and reachout.instead of cant,please try.its
so simple.just create a login,login into wiki and copy the previous
organization list starting from | to |- and edit your company name
there and paste it in any place you want.

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Re: [Ilugc] Foss based solutions providing Organizations in TamilNadu

[satyaakam goswami]

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 6:45 AM, chidambaresan ananthan
 wrote:
> As a foss based organization they must know how to use wiki..because
> wiki pays more attention and reachout.instead of cant,please try.its
> so simple.just create a login,login into wiki and copy the previous
> organization list starting from | to |- and edit your company name
> there and paste it in any place you want.
yes that is different angle to it if they do not play along the
ecosystems people will sooner or later will come to  know  and they
will soon be out of business this market place is bit different in the
sense if they do not know and have money to employ people then they
should even for tasks like these or other, which ultimately will build
the brand and create credibility , my interest is to have as many
companies like them , since we need more companies like these and many
more to fill the void of  frustration and  unemployment youth of this
nation faces.

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Re: [Ilugc] Foss based solutions providing Organizations in TamilNadu

[Karthikeyan A.K]

Common, I don't understand this. If some one wants to be with foss, why he
must do everything in a difficult way. If things are made easy they are
termed childish.

These FOSS people make things difficult and blame the world not adapting to
it. Common

There is a reason why all have a telephone with them rather than a
telegraphic machine. What next? Post to this form using binary ASCII codes?
:-))

We need to wake up.

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 7:03 AM, satyaakam goswami wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 6:45 AM, chidambaresan ananthan
>  wrote:
> > As a foss based organization they must know how to use wiki..because
> > wiki pays more attention and reachout.instead of cant,please try.its
> > so simple.just create a login,login into wiki and copy the previous
> > organization list starting from | to |- and edit your company name
> > there and paste it in any place you want.
> yes that is different angle to it if they do not play along the
> ecosystems people will sooner or later will come to  know  and they
> will soon be out of business this market place is bit different in the
> sense if they do not know and have money to employ people then they
> should even for tasks like these or other, which ultimately will build
> the brand and create credibility , my interest is to have as many
> companies like them , since we need more companies like these and many
> more to fill the void of  frustration and  unemployment youth of this
> nation faces.
>
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Re: [Ilugc] FreeSWITCH and India based servers

[Suraj Kumar]

Hi Arun,

On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:18 PM, Arun Venkataswamy wrote:

> I am trying out a FreeSWITCH based VoIP system. There is a considerable,
> around 1.5 seconds lag on the audio. Some improvement was seen when the
> server was switched from an Amazon EC2 small instance to an Amazon EC2
> medium instance. Considering India specific customers and usage, is it
> reasonable to assume that I will get substantial improvement by moving to a
> dedicated server (quad code, 4GB RAM) based geographically inside India?
> Can anyone throw some light on this? Also would like to get recommendations
> to an India based dedicated server provider. Thanks.
>

I didn't fully get your explanation here: Please correct me if I'm wrong:
I'm assuming you have a FreeSWITCH based system in India which talks to the
"business logic" server hosted out of EC2.

Although Amazon claims the "IO performance" to be moderate for both Small
and Medium instances, I've personally noticed significant variations in the
small instance IO performance due to contention for resources (more small
EC2 instances on the same machine, lesser medium EC2 instances on the same
machine; medium instances are pooled together and you may never usually
find medium and small together on the same real servers)

Some things you may want to check:

1. Is singapore your EC2 availability zone? If not, it may be worth moving
it to singapore to see a significant improvement in latency between your
indian FreeSWITCH service and the
2. Instead of a dedicated server, you may want to look at the High I/O
instance: http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/instance-types/ (I'm not sure if this
is available in the Singapore availability zone; I haven't personally used
high I/O instances)
3. Monitor your app and the system's performance. Is Network I/O your
bottleneck? Is disk I/O your bottleneck?

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Re: [Ilugc] Foss based solutions providing Organizations in TamilNadu

[Balachandran Sivakumar]

Hi,

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Karthikeyan A.K  wrote:
>
> We need to wake up.
>

We also need to wake up to the fact that top-posting is bad
and that the list guidelines state the in a clear explicit, manner :)
Please do not top-post. Use trimmed-interleaved posting. Thanks


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Re: [Ilugc] Foss based solutions providing Organizations in TamilNadu

[Manokaran K]

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Karthikeyan A.K wrote:

> Common, I don't understand this. If some one wants to be with foss, why he
> must do everything in a difficult way. If things are made easy they are
> termed childish.
>

How have you made this easy? You have only posted your gripe! This wiki is
a place where you post for free publicity. If you dont want it you just
walk away. Not throw mud at people for not wanting the pleasure of your
glorious contact details!


>
> These FOSS people make things difficult and blame the world not adapting to
> it. Common
>
>
Again, what have you, the Non FOSS hero, done to make things easy?


> There is a reason why all have a telephone with them rather than a
> telegraphic machine. What next? Post to this form using binary ASCII codes?
> :-))
>
> We need to wake up.
>
>
Had a hard days work and would like to catch a few more winks. Wake us up
with an exciting solution, will you?

yaaawn,
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Re: [Ilugc] Foss based solutions providing Organizations in TamilNadu

[Suraj Kumar]

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Shrinivasan T wrote:

> Friends.
>
> We are planning to interview the people who do business in TamilNadu
> based on Free Open Source Software.
> They will be published in ILUGC site and in Kaniyam.
>
> Reply here if you know such Commercial organizations that provides
> support, training, development, service, customizations,
> implementations etc for Free/Open Source Software.
>
> You can add the details here too.
>
>
> http://wiki.ilugc.in/index.php?title=Foss_based_solutions_providing_Organizations
>

FYI: Added Career Gear.

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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Tech Talent Search

[Suraj Kumar]

On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 3:15 AM, Balajee - Gmail
wrote:

>
> Forget LinkedIn: Companies turn to GitHub to find tech talent
>
> Because engineers and designers can post their work for all to see, more
> and
> more companies are realizing they can see what people can actually do, not
> just say they can do.
>
>
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-10797_3-57495099-235/forget-linkedin-companies-turn-to-github-to-find-tech-talent/
>

Absolutely. Many smart, budding enterprises I know of are asking potential
engineering recruits to show what they've done in github. But that said,
github doesn't work so well for sysadmin / operations types people.

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Re: [Ilugc] Foss based solutions providing Organizations in TamilNadu

[satyaakam goswami]

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Karthikeyan A.K  wrote:
> Common, I don't understand this. If some one wants to be with foss, why he
> must do everything in a difficult way. If things are made easy they are
> termed childish.

first follow the list guidelines
http://ilugc.in/mailinglist-guidelines/ it makes everyone's lives much
easier .you have been asked multiple times by different people.

> These FOSS people make things difficult and blame the world not adapting to
> it. Common

difficult and childish are relative terms , who is  blaming who ? they
are just point of views , ideas and approaches these are the arguments
all about  no matter what you try to do  in Life or Foss  there is
always multiple ways to do it , some people warn about being
fragmented etc.. these thought processes and people are like this
because no two people are alike hence no two approaches to a situation
would be similar , once you understand this you would be surprised to
see best of friends arguing , just like  politics and politicians they
all argue but that does stop them from being good friends , its just
the ideology which differentiates one from another , i feel  arguments
are good for a healthy community.

so far i have seen five kinds of people in Foss world once you
identify the type its really easy to deal with them , be warned anyone
can become the other in due  course of time you have to make a
judgement based on the topic and arguments.

1)Newbie
2)Radical
3)Moderate
4)Cusp
5)Suckers

> There is a reason why all have a telephone with them rather than a
> telegraphic machine. What next? Post to this form using binary ASCII codes?
> :-))

correct how many people still know how they used to work , again its a
perception issue and belief system if someone appreciates a
telegraphic machine or the Ham because of its historical perceptive or
the way it was build , what is wrong in that , you decide what you
want to do and just move on.

> We need to wake up.

Who was  sleeping :-) , wake up to what ? all is well and this is how
the things were and will be .


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Re: [Ilugc] Foss based solutions providing Organizations in TamilNadu

[satyaakam goswami]

> FYI: Added Career Gear.

cool , wow 9 already , let me fix some wiki text .

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[Ilugc] Obtaining the view definition using a query

[Balachandran Sivakumar]

Hi,

 I am using postgres 8.2. I would like to know if there is a
way to get the definition of a 'view' by running a query.

For eg., to get the list of views, we can do something like(of course,
there are other ways)

"SELECT table_name from infromation_schema.tables WHERE table_type = 'VIEW'"

Can we do something similar to get the definition of the view ? The
normal way of doing it is by running "\d+ view_name" in the postgres
database prompt. Thanks

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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Tech Talent Search

[satyaakam goswami]

> Absolutely. Many smart, budding enterprises I know of are asking potential
> engineering recruits to show what they've done in github. But that said,
> github doesn't work so well for sysadmin / operations types people.

no it does these are the people who showed to the world how to
maintain your cv's in a version control systems,  i use them
extensively to store my presentations and reference documents as
backup , a list of people who are devops guys use it extensively here
http://forge.puppetlabs.com/tags/webservers and one such example here
https://github.com/ghoneycutt/puppet-apache , yes it is useful for one
and all.

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Re: [Ilugc] Foss based solutions providing Organizations in TamilNadu

[Kingsly John]

+++ Karthikeyan A.K [2012-08-30 10:41:08]:

> Common, I don't understand this. If some one wants to be with foss, why he
> must do everything in a difficult way. If things are made easy they are
> termed childish.

No one is asking you to write validated HTML + CSS  + JS to add an entry.
Editing a wiki is trival and there a millions non-foss/non-techie people that
edit wikipedia without any problems.

> These FOSS people make things difficult and blame the world not adapting to
> it. Common

This is a purely commercial listing and if you don't care to be listed there
it's your loss. FOSS will survive just fine without you/ your company being
listed there.

Have you ever tried to get an ad printed in a newspaper/magazine or shown on
TV? They have very specific requirements about the format in which
submissions should be made. Why should this be any different?

The OP is spending valuable time building this resource for the community at
large,(isn't charging anything for his effort and neither is he getting a cut
out of any business that is generated from the directory). So the only thing
he should be concerned about is making his work easier.

> There is a reason why all have a telephone with them rather than a
> telegraphic machine. What next? Post to this form using binary ASCII codes?
> :-))

What next? You'll complain about how your listing isn't generating any leads?
That your business isn't earning millions of dollars and it's all the OP's
fault?

Kingsly

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[Ilugc] [X-Post] Emacs movies by Noufal

[Balachandran Sivakumar]

Hi,

  I am not sure if it was shared here. Noufal Ibrahim[1] has
done a great work by creating screencasts that help people learn
emacs, and customise it. They are located at the emacs movies[2] site.
So, emacs beginners(and probably even long-time users) can benefit
from it. A great many thanks to Noufal for that. Thanks

[1] Noufal Ibrahim - http://nibrahim.net.in/
[2] Emacs movies - http://emacsmovies.org/



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Re: [Ilugc] Foss based solutions providing Organizations in TamilNadu

[Karthikeyan A.K]

Well, why can't it be done?

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Kingsly John wrote:

> +++ Karthikeyan A.K [2012-08-30 10:41:08]:
>
> > Common, I don't understand this. If some one wants to be with foss, why
> he
> > must do everything in a difficult way. If things are made easy they are
> > termed childish.
>
> No one is asking you to write validated HTML + CSS  + JS to add an entry.
> Editing a wiki is trival and there a millions non-foss/non-techie people
> that
> edit wikipedia without any problems.
>
> > These FOSS people make things difficult and blame the world not adapting
> to
> > it. Common
>
> This is a purely commercial listing and if you don't care to be listed
> there
> it's your loss. FOSS will survive just fine without you/ your company being
> listed there.
>
> Have you ever tried to get an ad printed in a newspaper/magazine or shown
> on
> TV? They have very specific requirements about the format in which
> submissions should be made. Why should this be any different?
>
> The OP is spending valuable time building this resource for the community
> at
> large,(isn't charging anything for his effort and neither is he getting a
> cut
> out of any business that is generated from the directory). So the only
> thing
> he should be concerned about is making his work easier.
>
> > There is a reason why all have a telephone with them rather than a
> > telegraphic machine. What next? Post to this form using binary ASCII
> codes?
> > :-))
>
> What next? You'll complain about how your listing isn't generating any
> leads?
> That your business isn't earning millions of dollars and it's all the OP's
> fault?
>
> Kingsly
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Re: [Ilugc] [X-Post] Emacs movies by Noufal

[Karthikeyan A.K]

Ah! There it goes, no VIM users to fight against this guy :-))

Waiting for good entertainment!

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Balachandran Sivakumar <
benignb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
>   I am not sure if it was shared here. Noufal Ibrahim[1] has
> done a great work by creating screencasts that help people learn
> emacs, and customise it. They are located at the emacs movies[2] site.
> So, emacs beginners(and probably even long-time users) can benefit
> from it. A great many thanks to Noufal for that. Thanks
>
> [1] Noufal Ibrahim - http://nibrahim.net.in/
> [2] Emacs movies - http://emacsmovies.org/
>
>
>
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>
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Re: [Ilugc] [X-Post] Emacs movies by Noufal

[Balachandran Sivakumar]

Hi,

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Karthikeyan A.K  wrote:
> Ah! There it goes, no VIM users to fight against this guy :-))
>
> Waiting for good entertainment!
>

It is normally not a good idea to reply to cross-posts. And
definitely not right to top post. But since you asked - vimcasts.org
is the equivalent. Thanks


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Re: [Ilugc] Foss based solutions providing Organizations in TamilNadu

[Kingsly John]

+++ Karthikeyan A.K [2012-08-30 11:58:59]:

> Well, why can't it be done?

*plonk*

Just realised that you are the same #$&%@* behind the Ruby book/thread.

Apologies to list members for feeding the troll, won't happen again.

Kingsly

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Re: [Ilugc] Obtaining the view definition using a query

[Noorul Islam K M]

Balachandran Sivakumar  writes:

> Hi,
>
>  I am using postgres 8.2. I would like to know if there is a
> way to get the definition of a 'view' by running a query.
>
> For eg., to get the list of views, we can do something like(of course,
> there are other ways)
>
> "SELECT table_name from infromation_schema.tables WHERE table_type = 'VIEW'"
>
> Can we do something similar to get the definition of the view ? The
> normal way of doing it is by running "\d+ view_name" in the postgres
> database prompt. Thanks

Is this what you are looking for?

SELECT definition FROM pg_views WHERE viewname like 'yourviewname' and
schemaname NOT IN ('pg_catalog', 'information_schema');

Thanks and Regards
Noorul
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Re: [Ilugc] Obtaining the view definition using a query

[Balachandran Sivakumar]

Hi,

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Noorul Islam K M  wrote:
> Balachandran Sivakumar  writes:
>
>
> Is this what you are looking for?
>
> SELECT definition FROM pg_views WHERE viewname like 'yourviewname' and
> schemaname NOT IN ('pg_catalog', 'information_schema');
>

 Thanks a lot :) That was what I was looking for.

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