[Ilugc] Finding FOSS projects that need volunteers

2012-01-20 Thread Kumara Guru
Hi,

Are there places on the web where FOSS projects that need volunteers can
post their requirements?
I've come across http://sourceforge.net/people/helpwanted-latest.php but it
seems to be a very small list and mentions only SF projects.

Is there some online directory that lists such projects across multiple
source code hosts?



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Re: [Ilugc] Top Open Source Sites Protesting SOPA, PIPA

2012-01-18 Thread Kumara Guru
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya 
swapnil.bhart...@gmail.com wrote:


 http://www.muktware.com/blogs/3228/top-open-source-sites-protesting-sopa-pipa

 There are many open source communities which are protesting the
 anti-freedom bill SOPA and its 'Little Boy' cousing PIPA via their
 websites.


Closer home, we have our own internet censorship -

http://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2012/01/16/is-india-ignoring-its-own-internet-protections/


Anybody protesting?



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Re: [Ilugc] Please guide me how to install windows 3 inside linux.

2011-11-24 Thread Kumara Guru
2011/11/24 Vishnu Guruswamy vishnugurusw...@gmail.com:
 Dear Ilugcs
 Please guide me how to install windows 3 inside linux.


Windows 3? Are we reading that right? or did you mean Gnome 3?
Which Linux distribution are you using?


(BTW, what does 'inside' Linux mean?)

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Re: [Ilugc] Firefox 8 Dialogue box,

2011-11-24 Thread Kumara Guru
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 8:08 AM, sag kavin sagka...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am using ubuntu 11.10, recently i upgraded to firefox 8. Now whenever a
 dialogue box appears it has no action. No message is displayed. For example
 when i click delete all spam messages in gmail, a dialogue box with ok
 and cancel appears. Clicking anything is not at all possible. I tried it in
 windows also, there also same problem occurs. How to fix this?

Try it after disabling all Firefox extensions and plugins you have. If
that solves the issue, re-enable the extensions and plugins one by one
and test it again till you eventually identify the extension/plugin
that causes the problem. If you experience the issue even with no
extensions/plugins enabled, then perhaps, a complete uninstall and
re-install might help.


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Re: [Ilugc] More Free Online Classes from Stanford University

2011-11-18 Thread Kumara Guru
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Kumara Guru gurukum...@gmail.com wrote:
 Encouraged by the response for the three online classes currently running
 * http://www.ai-class.com/
 * http://www.ml-class.org/
 * http://www.db-class.org/

 Stanford is now launching 6 more classes in 2012:

 * Human-Computer Interface - Scott Klemmer - Jan 2012
  http://www.hci-class.org/

 * Natural Language Processing - Chris Manning and Dan Jurafsky - Jan 2012
  http://www.nlp-class.org/

 * Game Theory -  Matthew Jackson and Yoav Shoham - Jan 2012
  http://www.game-theory-class.org/

 * Probabilistic Graphical Models - Daphne Koller - Jan 2012
  http://www.pgm-class.org/

 * Computer Science 101 - Nick Parlante - Feb 2012
  http://www.cs101-class.org/

 * Software Engineering for Software as a Service - Armando Fox and
 David Patterson -  Feb 2012
  http://www.saas-class.org/



Two more classes from Stanford that might be of interest to Entrepreneurs:

* Technology Entrepreneurship - Chuck Eesley - Jan 2012
  Understand the formation and growth of high-impact start-ups in areas
  such as information, green/clean, medical and consumer technologies
  http://www.venture-class.org/

* The Lean Launchpad - Steve Blank - Feb 2012
  Learn how to turn a great idea into a great company.
  http://www.launchpad-class.org/



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Re: [Ilugc] [TIP] Python script of 23 lines to download file using http

2011-11-18 Thread Kumara Guru
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Arun SAG saga...@gmail.com wrote:
 Forget urllib2 and httplib, use requests
 http://docs.python-requests.org/en/latest/index.html . It's much easier for
 complex tasks.

I Agree. I sometimes wonder if urlib2 was designed by a Java Architect :D


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[Ilugc] More Free Online Classes from Stanford University

2011-11-17 Thread Kumara Guru
Encouraged by the response for the three online classes currently running
* http://www.ai-class.com/
* http://www.ml-class.org/
* http://www.db-class.org/

Stanford is now launching 6 more classes in 2012:

* Human-Computer Interface - Scott Klemmer - Jan 2012
  http://www.hci-class.org/

* Natural Language Processing - Chris Manning and Dan Jurafsky - Jan 2012
  http://www.nlp-class.org/

* Game Theory -  Matthew Jackson and Yoav Shoham - Jan 2012
  http://www.game-theory-class.org/

* Probabilistic Graphical Models - Daphne Koller - Jan 2012
  http://www.pgm-class.org/

* Computer Science 101 - Nick Parlante - Feb 2012
  http://www.cs101-class.org/

* Software Engineering for Software as a Service - Armando Fox and
David Patterson -  Feb 2012
  http://www.saas-class.org/


What can I say, this is pure awesomeness!!! Thank you Stanford!

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Re: [Ilugc] [TIP] Python script of 23 lines to download file using http

2011-11-17 Thread Kumara Guru
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 7:47 AM, Girish Venkatachalam
girishvenkatacha...@gmail.com wrote:
 print Connecting to , host
 conn = httplib.HTTPConnection(host)

urllib2 makes it real easy:
http://docs.python.org/howto/urllib2.html



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Re: [Ilugc] Laptop battery critical power.

2011-11-08 Thread Kumara Guru
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Roshan George ros...@arjie.com wrote:
 On Tue, 2011-11-08 at 09:14 +0530, sag kavin wrote:
 Where is the configuration file which specifies the critical
 battery limit?

 Like many other things in Gnome, the information is stored in gconf. Use
 `gconf-editor` and look under `/apps/gnome-power-manager/thresholds`.
 You might also consider looking at the `use_time_for_policy` key in
 `/apps/gnome-power-manager/thresholds` if you decide to use percentage
 instead of time to judge when to do things.


Ubuntu 11.10 (which the OP is using) is using Gnome 3 -- gnome apps
have migrated from gconf to Gsettings (with dconf backend). The dconf
backend is binary, so you won't be able to directly change it from a
text editor.  If you have dconf-editor installed, navigate to

 org - gnome - settings-daemon - plugins - power

in the left pane and you can edit the power configuration in the right
pane. Alternatively, you can also use gsettings from the command line.

gsettings   list-recursively   org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power

will list all the keys and their values under this schema. If you want
to change a value of a key, say percentage-critical :

gsettings   set   org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power
percentage-critical  10

You will find description of the keys here:
http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-settings-daemon/tree/data/org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power.gschema.xml.in.in

Note: You should also set use-time-for-policy key to false if you use
percentage.




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Re: [Ilugc] Transcript of Stallman's lecture...

2011-11-07 Thread Kumara Guru
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Sundaram Ramachandran
sundaram.ramachand...@kggroup.com wrote:
 Many years back I remember reading a lengthy transcript of Mr. Stallman's 
 speech at MIT Chromepet.
 Can anybody point me to a link where I can find it now?


http://pastebin.com/download.php?i=W1rqU8mm

Wondering why it's not on the ILUGC website!


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Re: [Ilugc] [OT][meta] Bangalore LUG?

2011-11-07 Thread Kumara Guru
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Arun Khan knu...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:39 AM, Kumara Guru gurukum...@gmail.com wrote:
 For some reason, I went to the LFY site and noticed a Poll on the homepage:
  Which is the most active and helpful LUG in India ?

 URL link to the poll

It's on the homepage of  http://www.linuxforu.com/
Look for it in the right column, half way to the bottom of the page.

 and also when was the poll taken?
I am guessing it was started years back and hasn't closed yet.

 Perhaps  the LFY folks in this list can shed some light on the poll.
Perhaps Diksha Gupta can help. She's from EFY but LFY is part of their Group.


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Re: [Ilugc] GNU Health-1.4.1 released

2011-11-02 Thread Kumara Guru
On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Arun Venkataswamy arun...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 4:19 AM, A. Mani a.mani@gmail.com wrote:
 http://health.gnu.org/
 GNU Health 1.4.1 released !

 In screen shot No 1 (Patient main screen), you might get into trouble with
 the photo. Even if the lady's photo was in public domain, associating it
 with the listed disease genes might get you guys into trouble :-) Why don't
 you go for a icon?

She is not a model but a Police woman.
http://en.showchina.org/Gallery/Fashion/200807/t196696.htm

It's like asking for trouble when you don't need it.


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[Ilugc] [OT][meta] Bangalore LUG?

2011-11-02 Thread Kumara Guru
For some reason, I went to the LFY site and noticed a Poll on the homepage:
 Which is the most active and helpful LUG in India ?

I thought it would be a landslide win for ILUGC but to my surprise the
Bangalore LUG is also equally placed in votes with ILUGC.  I know
ILUGC has been very active since those early days (no mean feat,
this!) but had no idea about the Bangalore LUG. Google tells me their
old site is http://linux-bangalore.org/blug/ -- which looks very much
dead -- even the linked Yahoo Groups have no posts for months,years.
Much worse, I am not able to connect to their new site http://blug.in/
 (the most recent wayback machine mirror informs us that the site is
to be re-created).

Am I missing something here? Is there a Bangalore/Bengaluru LUG that's
*active* now?


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Re: [Ilugc] [OT][meta] Bangalore LUG?

2011-11-02 Thread Kumara Guru
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:51 AM, 0 0...@0throot.com wrote:
 Am I missing something here? Is there a Bangalore/Bengaluru LUG that's
 *active* now?


 Must be this one,

 http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-bengaluru

 seems to be active.


http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-bengaluru/about

Only 11 emails last month and a mere 5 the month before it.  One of
the emails is someone's wedding invitation and another is from someone
apologizing for sending spam to the list. Not exactly active in the
sense for it to be useful :(


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Re: [Ilugc] A simple question regarding ubuntu background processes

2011-10-29 Thread Kumara Guru
On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Christopher Sagayam
christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 I run some background processes from time to time
 ...
 [5]   Done                    perl script5.pl
 [7]-  Done                    perl script6.pl
 [8]+  Done                    perl script7.pl
 Can anyone please explain to me the significance of the minus - and plus +
 present at lines 7 and 8 ?

+ is an identifier for the most recent job
-  is an identifier for the next most recent job.

From jobs manpage:
( http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/oneiric/man1/jobs.1posix.html#contenttoc9
)


The  character  '+'  identifies  the job that would be used as a
default for the fg  or  bg  utilities;  this  job  can  also  be
specified  using  the  job_id  %+  or  %%  . The character '-'
identifies the job that would become the default if the  current
default  job  were to exit; this job can also be specified using
the job_id %-. For other jobs, this field is a space. At  most
one  job  can  be identified with '+' and at most one job can be
identified with '-' .



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Re: [Ilugc] Disk error

2011-10-16 Thread Kumara Guru
On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 6:35 PM, aravindh aravindh
aaravindh...@gmail.com wrote:
 i formatted both os and installed 11.04 again .when i re-start
 the screen it indicates  DISK ERROR.How to rectify.My pc configuration 2gb
 RAM,DUAL CORE,160 GB HD AND NO GRAPHICS CARD.

When you re-installed 11.04, the Grub configuration may not have been
updated properly.
Boot from a Live CD and try this:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair



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Re: [Ilugc] Unable to install You tube downloader

2011-10-15 Thread Kumara Guru
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 7:23 PM, SRIKANTH NS srikanth...@gmail.com wrote:
 I run Debian 5.0 in a dual boot machine.
 When I ran apt-get install youtube-dl as root,
 it says could not find package youtube-dl.

Looks like it's not packaged for Debian 5. But youtube-dl is just a
single python script that you can download from
http://rg3.github.com/youtube-dl/download.html

Here's the direct link for the latest version, if you want to wget it:
https://github.com/rg3/youtube-dl/raw/2011.09.30/youtube-dl

 Will the youtube-dl install only in DEbian 6.0?

Python 2.5+ is the only requirement for youtube-dl and it should work
everywhere Python 2.5+ is installed including Debian 5 (or even
Windows for that matter).


On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 12:25 AM, Prasanna Venkadesh
prasmai...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you cant find youtube-dl then there is an beautiful plug-in available for
 Firefox called as FlashGot.

That's fine except for the fact he would not be able to schedule an
automated downloading from a shell script or chain it with other
command line tools.



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Re: [Ilugc] Problem in connecting to Mozilla IRC Server

2011-10-15 Thread Kumara Guru
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 7:07 PM, Dwaraka Nath dtsdwa...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Connection details
 Server - irc.mozilla.org/6667 or irc.mozilla.org/6697
 If I use the 6697 port, I check the 'Use SSL for all the servers on this 
 network option' and 'Accept invalid SSL certificate'

Do you notice any specific error message when you run the following?

openssl s_client -connect irc.mozilla.org:6697


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Re: [Ilugc] RIP: Dennis Ritchie (Oct 9th 2011)

2011-10-13 Thread Kumara Guru
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Bharathi Subramanian
bharathi.l...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dennis MacAlistair Ritchie (September 9, 1941 - October 9, 2011) was
 an American computer scientist notable for developing C and for having
 influence on other programming languages, as well as operating systems
 such as Multics and Unix. He received the Turing Award in 1983 and the
 National Medal of Technology 1998 on April 21, 1999. Ritchie was the
 head of Lucent Technologies System Software Research Department when
 he retired in 2007.

I am surprised at the coverage (or the lack thereof) on this news
especially after seeing pages after pages of eulogy for Steve Jobs
even in the local media. Sure, Dennis isn't as famous but he is the
father of 'C' - a language that still is as important as ever; touches
everyday life silently -- and a key contributor to Unix
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoVQTPbD6UY)  to which every modern
Operating System is indebted. As a great inventor who stood humble all
his life, he deserves a better farewell than what he is getting now.

Thank you very much Dennis, R.I.P.


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Re: [Ilugc] Problem in connecting to Mozilla IRC Server

2011-10-13 Thread Kumara Guru
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:28 AM, Dwaraka Nath dtsdwa...@hotmail.com wrote:
 I've been trying to connect to Mozilla's IRC Server - irc://irc.mozilla.org/ 
 via xchat.
 But with no success. I'm using Fedora 15. It was listed in the Mozilla's IRC 
 Wiki page that,
 we could connect to it via 6697 port as well as against the normal 6667. 
 Still, no hope.

Did it give you an error message?

It works for me. The 6667 port is for a non-ssl connection and the
6697 port is for a SSL connection. So make sure you are using the
right port. If you got that right and still not able to connect with
SSL turned on, check your openSSL configuration.


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Re: [Ilugc] [ILug-C] Elcot marries Microsoft - A love story !!

2011-10-12 Thread Kumara Guru
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Senthil Nathan mymailst...@gmail.com wrote:

 TN Government must try to install both windows and Linux so that students
 can decide whichever best suites them. If there are budget constraints then
 they must drop Windows in favor of Linux.

It's already a done deal. They are preloading BOSS linux with Windows.
http://bosslinux.in/BOSS-In-TamilNadu

The question is, with such a large scale purchase of Windows licences
on Tax payer money, who is getting kickbacks and laughing all the way
to the bank?

 Laptop without WiFi is a stupid idea.

Forget WiFi, they will not get even a wired internet connection and
since most students can't afford a subscription on their own, there's
no way to pull anti-virus updates (If I am not mistaken, a 1 year AV
subscription is part of the deal). Students will most likely share
flash drives and get an uninhibited supply of malware. So yeah, stupid
terrible idea!


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Re: [Ilugc] Help regarding Project

2011-10-09 Thread Kumara Guru
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Abdur Rahman sarsarah...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi ILUGCians
       i m doing my BE final year ... and planning to do project on wireless
 network security... i wanna know how to write code in java to detect r scan
 the wifi networks... please guide me thanks in advance...

Is it something like http://meraki.com/products/wireless/wifi-stumbler
(unfortunately, not opensource) ?
There's an old opensource Wifi scanner written in Java called Mognet.
Google for Mognet-1.16.tar.gz


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Re: [Ilugc] NS3 -Query

2011-10-09 Thread Kumara Guru
On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 11:10 AM, chidambaresan ananthan
chidambasak...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is any one have the working or project experience in ns3 and i want
 the link of peoples who working in it.

By ns-3, I guess you mean the Network Simulator (nsnam.org). Velammal
and VIT conducted workshops on NS2 earlier this year:

http://www.vit.ac.in/events2011/NET%20WORk.pdf

http://www.velammal.org/pdf/NetworkStimulator2011.pdf

You may probably approach the resource persons mentioned in the
brochure or ask your query in the ns3 users group:
http://groups.google.com/group/ns-3-users


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Re: [Ilugc] not able to get ubuntu on boot screen

2011-09-27 Thread Kumara Guru
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 8:16 PM, meena r meenu140...@gmail.com wrote:
 i have installed ubuntu 11.04 inside my windows xp and worked on it. but
 after some days system got restarted so i changed my system configuration as
 normally start up-load devices and drives and services . from that moment
 am not able to get ubuntu on boot screen, but ubuntu file is still present
 in the drive where i installed . how to get back ubuntu on boot screen nw?

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/20340/how-to-restore-the-wubi-ubuntu-bootloader/


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Re: [Ilugc] LAMP setup which distro is good

2011-09-27 Thread Kumara Guru
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't think this question is directed at me since I did no such thing.

Righto!  I generally use You only as a figure of speech; nothing personal.
(Btw, saw your photo on fedoraproject.org; the kid is real cute :-)


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Re: [Ilugc] LAMP setup which distro is good

2011-09-27 Thread Kumara Guru
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Rajagopal Swaminathan
raju.rajs...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...MSRTC, Centos, ... BEST.. ..
 ...taxpayer's money. grocery vendorprivate4 medical practitioner...
... Openvista... pre-Fortran...GT.M database... LTS...
 RHEL/CentOS...bleeding edgestability...
... Freedom...choiceTN...Kerala...foss...well.


Shri Rajagopal ji,

Thanks for your time, but no Vivekananda quotes for me?


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Re: [Ilugc] LAMP setup which distro is good

2011-09-26 Thread Kumara Guru
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Unless you have talked to *anyone* handling a large deployment,  all you
 can do is speculate about their needs which isn't useful.  Not many
 people will explain the specifics for you in a public mailing list.
 Deployment use cases and requirements are often treated as confidential.

Yeah, since when did the Enterprise looked to public mailing lists for
answers and shared plans of their deployments? Glad, you put the
public mailing list in its place. Yet, when the OP was looking for a
LAMP setup, it was immediately assumed he is an Enterprise guy and
there was a completely unjustified suggestion Don't touch (even think
about) Fedora, Ubnutu etc. as a server platform for new production
apps. How is this useful?

Make no mistake, I have nothing against RHEL/CentOS but you cannot
trivialize another distro like Ubuntu just like that, or argue that a
completely arbitrary N-years support cycle is the clincher without
considering the specific internals of the organization itself. If
tomorrow, RHEL or Ubuntu provided 20 years extended support for every
release, will it be any more useful?

Anyways, as I previously mentioned, Wikipedia effectively migrated to
Ubuntu LTS Servers.
http://www.ubuntu.com/products/casestudies/wikimedia

Wikipedia is one of the high traffic sites on the Internet, run on a
meager budget. Even with mind-blowing stats like 50,000 http
requests/second and 80,000 SQL queries/second and millions of
visitors, the entire setup of Wikimedia's 300+ servers is very much
stable:
http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/Server_roles

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Re: [Ilugc] LAMP setup which distro is good

2011-09-25 Thread Kumara Guru
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Have you talked to any organization having a large deployment on Linux?
 I encourage you to do that before making assumptions around this topic.

Fair enough, but I am not a person they would/could share details with.
If someone could provide the data, that will be helpful.

 A open web platform does mean costs are going to be less

Which is my expectation too.

 but doesn't mean stability concerns are going to just evaporate.
 In fact, the point of enterprise releases in part is because large
 deployments don't necessarily want to follow the break neck pace
 of changes in the open source world.

I've explained it before. I am not asking you to upgrade your setup
whenever, say, PHP had a new point release. I am asking you to upgrade
when a major shift happens - Example: OOP concepts in PHP 4 vs PHP 5 -
when that shift is a significant improvement and makes the
development/maintenance cycle less painful, if not super easy. I don't
expect you to make the shift overnight but you should at least start
thinking about it sooner than later.

 migrating a custom PHP (4.x to 5.x)  or Python (2.3 to 2.7) or MySQL
 (3.x to 4.x) and you will see how costly it can be.

I've done migrations from PHP4 code to PHP5 myself - painful indeed -
not in coding it in PHP5 but in grasping what the original PHP4 code
does with  insufficient documentation written years ago, by someone I
cannot contact now because he has already left for another company, in
another country. However, the sooner it's done the better, because
otherwise, as bugs/adjustments start to creep in, developers add patch
after patch in PHP4 style code - more trouble to deal with and a
nightmare for maintenance. If you are worried about the migration
costs now, you better be prepared for the costs 10 years later. At
that time, there will very few developers who can deal with PHP4 style
code and be nice with their charges. You could throw out everything
and start from scratch but that again will be expensive in its own
way.

  Heck,  forget enterprises.  Even hosting providers have problems of this 
 sort.

Does having problems stop them from providing a new version? After all
if they don't, they would lose prospective customers to competitors.


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Re: [Ilugc] LAMP setup which distro is good

2011-09-25 Thread Kumara Guru
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Ramkumar ramkumar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi All,

 Thanks for all of our techies reply.
 My Query is FYI only :
 we have  to setup LAMP server for this how do we make it as fast and
 reliable. which distro is good to setup LAMP.
 My suggestion  is Cent OS 6.

 OS preference is :
 Cent OS and Debian.
 i am also interested to know about Ubuntu - why and why not.


Hello Ramkumar,

Someone (is that you?) asked this on Slashdot by a timely coincidence :

http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/09/25/1211203/newb-friendly-linux-flavor-for-lamp-server

A note of caution: Remember Slashdot posters are just like us here -
answers are opinions with implicit YMMV disclaimer.
Not intended as a replacement for professional, legally binding advice
if you are going to throw in a lot of money.


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Re: [Ilugc] LAMP setup which distro is good

2011-09-24 Thread Kumara Guru
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote:
 The goal of sticking to a single release is essentially because it is a known
 quantity and that is very important when you have hundreds or thousands
 of systems or even a few critical ones.  Custom in house applications are
 often written in enterprises and upgrading can break them in non obvious ways.
 Unless the new release offers something that is compelling enough to think
 about, mere inertia is enough to not change anything.

So far, enterprise was forced to upgrade their applications when they
replace their aging hardware and the new hardware setup is not
compatible with their old Apps. With Virtualization helping them, they
can indefinitely postpone upgrades by maintaining the old setup even
in new hardware.
With this kind of inertia, even a 10 year support-cycle will not be
enough for them. So why eliminate Ubuntu based on this criteria?

On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Arun Khan knu...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 4:36 AM, Kumara Guru gurukum...@gmail.com wrote:
 If the enterprise wants a 10-year locked-down deployment even for an
 Open Web Apps stack, that makes me really sad.
 I was under the impression that only proprietary, commercial products
 lock down their customers and make upgrades a costly affair.

 As a general practice, upgrades (even .xy releases) need to be
 validated - be it FOSS or proprietary.  Validation costs money.

I am not denying that. When designing apps around an open platform, I
expect costs be less than intimidating to comfortably go for
periodical planned  upgrades.

My only contention is that a *Web application stack* -- of all things
-- should be on a shorter upgrade cycle. 10 years is a ridiculously
long time by Internet standards. This is especially true for
customer-facing applications like an eCommerce portal. Yes, it would
be highly risky to make unstable upgrades to an eCommerce portal as
any Failure due to it has direct financial consequences. However, if
you shy away from even making significant upgrades in reasonable time
periods, your App will be a dinosaur caught in a time warp.

Until like 4 years ago, cloud strategy was largely unheard of, and
many enterprise Web Apps had a not-so-great design for scalability
with either a huge wastage of computing resources or an abysmal
resource pooling. But now, significant cost savings can be achieved
with a well designed cloud strategy (Disclaimer: I am not pretending
to be a expert on cloud computing -- merely stating the obvious). If
your eCommerce portal had no architectural redesign for the last 5
years and will continue to be so for the next 5 years, your are pretty
much limiting the number of customers you can do business with. It
would be unwise not to expect a better architecture to surface in much
less than a decade from now and resisting the change at that point,
will actually be a financial drain.


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Re: [Ilugc] LAMP setup which distro is good

2011-09-23 Thread Kumara Guru
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Rajagopal Swaminathan
raju.rajs...@gmail.com wrote:
 .. PHB's who wants to push their responsibility to vendors.
  In which case, It makes sense to go with development using Centos
  which can then be cnverted into RHEL/Oracle Linux of they want to
 buy 24/7 support from another corporate.

Ubuntu is backed by Canonical and they do offer commercial support services.
If this is what your PHBs need, it's already available for Ubuntu.

http://www.ubuntu.com/business/services/server


 Ubuntu/Mint for desktops: OK.
 But for servers (especially located in remote data centers):
 RHEL/Centos if you wand peace of mind and do not want to jump though
 the hoops and loops of upgrade every now and then.

If you need stable releases, you should really be using the LTS (long
term support) versions.
The LTS Server versions are also supported for 5 years and is actually
enterprise focused.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS


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Re: [Ilugc] LAMP setup which distro is good

2011-09-23 Thread Kumara Guru
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:39 PM, Rajagopal Swaminathan
raju.rajs...@gmail.com wrote:

  I can see that that Shri Rahul Sundaram has aptly answered to this query.

If the 10-year support cycle interests you, RHEL is not the lone
provider; SUSE Linux Enterprise also provides a comparable 10-year
support life-cycle.

http://support.novell.com/inc/lifecycle/linux.html

http://www.redhat.com/rhel/server/extended_lifecycle_support/
(quick illustration:
http://dag.wieers.com/blog/sites/dag.wieers.com.blog/files/rhel-business-continuity.png
)


 The point is, a production environment runs long after its deployment.
 I know of clipper and foxpro production systems running to date (and
 fate) to this day.

The original poster was referring to the LAMP stack.

I can understand organizations holding on to their old proprietary
solutions for ages (like IE6 and Active-X based Intranet apps).
I can even understand people not upgrading their email servers as
SMTP, POP or IMAP may not see radical changes.

But why should the dynamically changing  nature of *Open* Web
technologies be limited by stale deployments?
I for one, would really not want to limit myself to an age old MySQL
server, when a newer release would greatly enhance the scalability of
my web application. Nor would I want to miss a significant upgrade to
PHP features in the name of maintaining stability. Just compare how
the web was 5 years ago and how much it has evolved now.

If the enterprise wants a 10-year locked-down deployment even for an
Open Web Apps stack, that makes me really sad.
I was under the impression that only proprietary, commercial products
lock down their customers and make upgrades a costly affair.


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Re: [Ilugc] LAMP setup which distro is good

2011-09-22 Thread Kumara Guru
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Rajagopal Swaminathan
raju.rajs...@gmail.com wrote:
 Don't touch (even think about) Fedora, Ubnutu etc. as a server
 platform for new production apps.

As someone actively using Ubuntu servers, I would like to know your
reasoning for avoiding Ubuntu server for production.

The well known poster child for the LAMP stack - Wikipedia,
extensively runs on Ubuntu servers:
http://www.canonical.com/about-canonical/resources/case-studies/wikimedia-chooses-ubuntu-all-its-servers


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Re: [Ilugc] Command to shutdown windows machine from ubuntu

2011-09-09 Thread Kumara Guru
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Aathi Narayanan
aathinarayana...@gmail.com wrote:
             Which command is used to shutdown windows machine from windows
 7

* If you want to shutdown a Windows machine from another Windows machine:
  Use something like shutdown /s /m \\computername (For this you
need an Admin account under a domain controller setup). Check
shutdown /? for the various options.

* If you want to shutdown a Windows machine from Ubuntu:
  Install samba-common binaries and use the net tool to issue a
shutdown command.
  See http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/manpages-3/net.8.html#id2533232

* If you want to shutdown a Ubuntu machine from Windows:
  Install openssh-server in Ubuntu. Using putty from Windows, SSH to
the Ubuntu machine and issue a shutdown.

 It's not clear what you want to do or why you want to do it. You may
even login to your windows machine through a remote desktop connection
(through the rdp client in Windows or rdesktop in linux), and get to
the shutdown menu with CTRL+ALT+END.


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Re: [Ilugc] php + zend error

2011-09-09 Thread Kumara Guru
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Usha Subramanian
usha.subramania...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi anyone could shed light on overcomming the following error:

 My php version is PHP 5.3.2 (cli)


 Warning: The magic method __isset() must have public visibility and cannot
 be static in
 /home/COMOCHENNAI/usha/projects/vinnies/application/libraries/Zend/Config.php
 on line 182 Warning: The magic method __unset() must have public visibility
 and cannot be static in
 /home/COMOCHENNAI/usha/projects/vinnies/application/libraries/Zend/Config.php
 on line 194

 Thanks.,
 Usha

In PHP 5, all overloading methods must be defined as *public* but PHP
versions prior to 5.3 didn't really make a fuss if you defined your
overloading method as *protected*. The Config.php file in the version
of Zend framework you are using, overloads __isset , __unset methods
but defines them as protected. Starting in PHP 5.3, the public scope
requirement for overloading methods is being enforced by throwing a
warning like the ones you are reporting. This issue is fixed in Zend
Framework version 1.6 (see
http://framework.zend.com/issues/browse/ZF-3417). If you don't want to
turn off those warnings (using error_reporting() or php.ini), you
should upgrade to the latest version of Zend framework compatible with
your application.


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Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-04 Thread Kumara Guru
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Raman.P raam...@yahoo.co.in wrote:


 Today's The Hindu carries clarification by the Minister for IT, TN has
 clarified that the laptops will be loaded with BOSS by ELCOT itself. I think
 all of us should be happy.

 Raman.P
 blog:http://ramanchennai.wordpress.com/


No reason to be really happy.. knowing well that a huge amount of tax-payer
money is going to be forwarded to Microsoft's coffers. Did ELCOT at least
try to cut a deal with Microsoft to get free/subsidised academic licences
instead of paying for them at market prices?

I am curious to know if the Govt would also provide free Internet access to
the students. If not, many would not afford to have access to Internet at
all. That would also mean when they use windows, the antivirus software will
not receive updates but the laptops will receive a steady supply of malware
through the flash drives they share.

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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Arduino Boards

2011-09-02 Thread Kumara Guru
Hi,

A year back, I bought a Arduino Duemilanove from SimpleLabs. They now sell
the Arduino UNO for 1360/-
You can even save the courier charges by going to their place in person and
buying it.

http://www.simplelabs.co.in/catalog/arduino

Not sure about bluetooth, but they do seem to sell a Xbee shield for Rs 2500
and an Ethernet shield for Rs 2300


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Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender

2011-09-02 Thread Kumara Guru
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Arun SAG saga...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Shanu shan...@gmail.com wrote:

 
  FSFTN team had a detailed discussion with him when the previous tender
  was released. He seems to u9nderstand the depth of issue. However we
  did not feel that he can amend the decision.
 

 I don't understand this However we did not feel that he can amend the
 decision., Do you mean, He cannot amend the tender, because he is not
 behind the tender or as he cannot amend it as it has been already out?

 --
 Arun S.A.G
 http://zer0c00l.in/


What a complete disappointment! I thought it was a good compromise to
provide a multi-boot option but now they've removed Linux completely out of
the spec. The question now is, are the students allowed to install Linux on
their own or will it void the warranty and support? If they are not allowed
to do so, they should at least be allowed to run Linux on VirtualBox. Will
it be possible for them to at least pre-install, say, VirtualBox and a
Ubuntu VM image on these laptops?


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