[Ilugc] [OT] Why Our Country Lacking Enterprenuers Like Mark Zuckerburg ?

[jaya kumar]

Hai to all

Can India produce a Mark Zuckerberg” and the response was marvelous. So i
decided to collect it together and make it into a list  some of the
questions and problems related to it.
An average Indian spends about 30 minutes of his time on the internet every
day.  On that Facebook and Google tops the list. Young men, college and
school going students dominate the social media in urban India. A survey,
conducted by Internet and Mobile Association of India (IAMAI) and IMRB,
said the young men contribute nearly 35% to the overall urban social
networking base. About 34 % are from the top 8 metros, an equal pie is
contributed by small towns with a population of up to 5 lakh. Facebook
virtually dwarfs all other social networking sites in India, with 97% of 5
crore of active Internet users accessing the site.

Everyone uses Google at least once a day and Google has become a starting
place for all information’s.

So Why indian enterperneurs not having the   idea of start up sites Like
Facebook  or etc .,

It means that everybody have their own idea in their domains .. or their
fields .

But they dont know how to start up the concepts in Web ?

I request to Ilugc to Create a blog for awareness to enterprenuers to avail
of these technologies u make wonders like tat for example
 php,mysql,python,ruby on rails ... then the start ups will come more and
employability will come more

Criticisms are always welcome !  May be this Post is too long ... But its
the initiative to grow up More  :-)

Thanks

Jayakumar
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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Why Our Country Lacking Enterprenuers Like Mark Zuckerburg ?

[Arun Khan]

On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 10:12 AM, jaya kumar  wrote:
> Hai to all
>
> Can India produce a Mark Zuckerberg” and the response was marvelous. So i

For every success, there are thousands of ideas that never took off.

>
> So Why indian enterperneurs not having the   idea of start up sites Like
> Facebook  or etc .,
>

An entrepreneur does *not* wait for others to give him/her idea.  They
are highly self motivated people and pursue their dream irrespective
of others laughing at them.   I recall Jeff Bezos (Amazon.com)
interviews in the early 2000s and defending his idea of selling books
online.   It took patience, belief in his idea and being at it.  It
also needed a lot of convincing to financiers.

Are you willing to put in this kind of effort?
-- 
Arun Khan
Sent from my non-iphone/non-android device
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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Why Our Country Lacking Enterprenuers Like Mark Zuckerburg ?

[satyaakam goswami]

On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Baskar Selvaraj wrote:

> >
> > Are you willing to put in this kind of effort?
>
> We often see many people in this list suggesting ideas about
> entrepreneurship. But if you ask them if they are ready for putting
> effort in it, then they will become silent.
>
> The people behind UDProducts are young entrepreneurs who have started
> their web business before even completing their engineering education.
> They are self motivated students who never thought of searching jobs.
> If these entrepreneurs could be well encouraged and supported (i.e.
> financially) , then India will have more entrepreneurs than any other
> country.
>
> http://www.udproducts.in/about


lack of capital is  one thing there is no corpus fund to support these kind
of initiatives the other way round is to  give them work so that they not
only become self reliant also know by committing mistakes learn what not to
 do next time. let me pass a lead to them and see how far they have come .
Yes this is one way of financing giving work which pays so that you are
afloat to begin with and survive to fight one more day.


-Satya
fossevents.in
Ps: i do not see any of there contact details on the website except there
form can you put me in touch with them.



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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Why Our Country Lacking Enterprenuers Like Mark Zuckerburg ?

[Baskar Selvaraj]

>
> Are you willing to put in this kind of effort?

We often see many people in this list suggesting ideas about
entrepreneurship. But if you ask them if they are ready for putting
effort in it, then they will become silent.

The people behind UDProducts are young entrepreneurs who have started
their web business before even completing their engineering education.
They are self motivated students who never thought of searching jobs.
If these entrepreneurs could be well encouraged and supported (i.e.
financially) , then India will have more entrepreneurs than any other
country.

http://www.udproducts.in/about

Just my thoughts.

--
S. Baskar

Twitter  : http://twitter.com/linuxbaskar
LinkedIN : http://www.linkedin.com/pub/baskar-selvaraj/21/881/b29
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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Why Our Country Lacking Enterprenuers Like Mark Zuckerburg ?

[satyaakam goswami]

On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 10:12 AM, jaya kumar wrote:

> Hai to all
>
> Can India produce a Mark Zuckerberg” and the response was marvelous.


where was this discussed , afaik i did not see any on this list ?


> So i
> decided to collect it together and make it into a list  some of the
> questions and problems related to it.
> An average Indian spends about 30 minutes of his time on the internet every
> day.  On that Facebook and Google tops the list. Young men, college and
> school going students dominate the social media in urban India. A survey,
> conducted by Internet and Mobile Association of India (IAMAI) and IMRB,
> said the young men contribute nearly 35% to the overall urban social
> networking base. About 34 % are from the top 8 metros, an equal pie is
> contributed by small towns with a population of up to 5 lakh. Facebook
> virtually dwarfs all other social networking sites in India, with 97% of 5
> crore of active Internet users accessing the site.
>
> Everyone uses Google at least once a day and Google has become a starting
> place for all information’s.
>
> So Why indian enterperneurs not having the   idea of start up sites Like
> Facebook  or etc .,
>

why should they or what the stats has to do with an Enterprise ?


> It means that everybody have their own idea in their domains .. or their
> fields .
>

no it means nothing


> But they dont know how to start up the concepts in Web ?
>

how can you say that ? when you look up the stats of the people who are
programming for the same market highest number are coming from India.


> I request to Ilugc to Create a blog for awareness to enterprenuers to avail
> of these technologies u make wonders like tat for example
>  php,mysql,python,ruby on rails ... then the start ups will come more and
> employability will come more
>

this is the only valid point i agree to , i work with these startups and
there is a thriving ecosystem of them who are indeed creating Jobs.


>
> Criticisms are always welcome !  May be this Post is too long ... But its
> the initiative to grow up More  :-)
>

there are different facets you are trying to mix up , your initial
hypothesis itself is skewed , because entrepreneurship cannot be only
limited to making capital and  success  cannot be only measured in how much
wealth one has acquired , what do you think of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonas_Salk as a person was he successful ?

i for one has been the same quest so decided to write some stories to learn
more and inspire
http://satyaakam.net/2013/05/10/who-is-a-foss-contributor-and-how-his-life-should-be-celebrated/
,
would like to hear about any person you know of to be covered may be
introduced to me.

thanks
-Satya
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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Why Our Country Lacking Enterprenuers Like Mark Zuckerburg ?

[Alok Sachan]

On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 10:12 AM, jaya kumar wrote:

> Hai to all
>
> Can India produce a Mark Zuckerberg”?

Has everybody forgotten Sabir Bhatia?

Alok Sachan.

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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Why Our Country Lacking Enterprenuers Like Mark Zuckerburg ?

[Vignesh Nagarajan]

there us no proper guidness and support from our home itself i plannef to
start a online comparison site related to power tools. but from my family
side there is no support so its in hold
On May 15, 2013 10:13 AM, "jaya kumar"  wrote:

> Hai to all
>
> Can India produce a Mark Zuckerberg” and the response was marvelous. So i
> decided to collect it together and make it into a list  some of the
> questions and problems related to it.
> An average Indian spends about 30 minutes of his time on the internet every
> day.  On that Facebook and Google tops the list. Young men, college and
> school going students dominate the social media in urban India. A survey,
> conducted by Internet and Mobile Association of India (IAMAI) and IMRB,
> said the young men contribute nearly 35% to the overall urban social
> networking base. About 34 % are from the top 8 metros, an equal pie is
> contributed by small towns with a population of up to 5 lakh. Facebook
> virtually dwarfs all other social networking sites in India, with 97% of 5
> crore of active Internet users accessing the site.
>
> Everyone uses Google at least once a day and Google has become a starting
> place for all information’s.
>
> So Why indian enterperneurs not having the   idea of start up sites Like
> Facebook  or etc .,
>
> It means that everybody have their own idea in their domains .. or their
> fields .
>
> But they dont know how to start up the concepts in Web ?
>
> I request to Ilugc to Create a blog for awareness to enterprenuers to avail
> of these technologies u make wonders like tat for example
>  php,mysql,python,ruby on rails ... then the start ups will come more and
> employability will come more
>
> Criticisms are always welcome !  May be this Post is too long ... But its
> the initiative to grow up More  :-)
>
> Thanks
>
> Jayakumar
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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Why Our Country Lacking Enterprenuers Like Mark Zuckerburg ?

[satyaakam goswami]

On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Alok Sachan  wrote:

> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 10:12 AM, jaya kumar  >wrote:
>
> > Hai to all
> >
> > Can India produce a Mark Zuckerberg”?
>
> Has everybody forgotten Sabir Bhatia?
>

also why everyone so obsessed about web and android , also we forget we are
on a Foss list , i do not know how many people remember Anand babu of
http://www.gluster.org/ , this is exactly what i want to bring forth
through stories , if capital generation in the form of Money is one of the
criteria of being successful so be it .

-Satya
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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Why Our Country Lacking Enterprenuers Like Mark Zuckerburg ?

[satyaakam goswami]

On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Vignesh Nagarajan
wrote:

> there us no proper guidness and support from our home itself i plannef to
> start a online comparison site related to power tools. but from my family
> side there is no support so its in hold
>

you are asking for support and help from people who do not understand what
you want to do , lucky are few who get an ecosystem where there  friends
and family members are supporting in honing there skills and ideas
. Entrepreneurial path is sometimes filled with boredom and loneliness one
has to even fight that more than once it happens people around you will
not  understands what  you want do .

-Satya
fossevents.in



> On May 15, 2013 10:13 AM, "jaya kumar"  wrote:
>
> > Hai to all
> >
> > Can India produce a Mark Zuckerberg” and the response was marvelous. So i
> > decided to collect it together and make it into a list  some of the
> > questions and problems related to it.
> > An average Indian spends about 30 minutes of his time on the internet
> every
> > day.  On that Facebook and Google tops the list. Young men, college and
> > school going students dominate the social media in urban India. A survey,
> > conducted by Internet and Mobile Association of India (IAMAI) and IMRB,
> > said the young men contribute nearly 35% to the overall urban social
> > networking base. About 34 % are from the top 8 metros, an equal pie is
> > contributed by small towns with a population of up to 5 lakh. Facebook
> > virtually dwarfs all other social networking sites in India, with 97% of
> 5
> > crore of active Internet users accessing the site.
> >
> > Everyone uses Google at least once a day and Google has become a starting
> > place for all information’s.
> >
> > So Why indian enterperneurs not having the   idea of start up sites Like
> > Facebook  or etc .,
> >
> > It means that everybody have their own idea in their domains .. or their
> > fields .
> >
> > But they dont know how to start up the concepts in Web ?
> >
> > I request to Ilugc to Create a blog for awareness to enterprenuers to
> avail
> > of these technologies u make wonders like tat for example
> >  php,mysql,python,ruby on rails ... then the start ups will come more and
> > employability will come more
> >
> > Criticisms are always welcome !  May be this Post is too long ... But its
> > the initiative to grow up More  :-)
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Jayakumar
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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Why Our Country Lacking Enterprenuers Like Mark Zuckerburg ?

[Karthikeyan A.K]

The thing is simple. Its all about getting kaasu, panam, duttu, money
money. :-) Nothing else.


On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 3:35 PM, satyaakam goswami wrote:

> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Vignesh Nagarajan
> wrote:
>
> > there us no proper guidness and support from our home itself i plannef to
> > start a online comparison site related to power tools. but from my family
> > side there is no support so its in hold
> >
>
> you are asking for support and help from people who do not understand what
> you want to do , lucky are few who get an ecosystem where there  friends
> and family members are supporting in honing there skills and ideas
> . Entrepreneurial path is sometimes filled with boredom and loneliness one
> has to even fight that more than once it happens people around you will
> not  understands what  you want do .
>
> -Satya
> fossevents.in
>
>
>
> > On May 15, 2013 10:13 AM, "jaya kumar" 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hai to all
> > >
> > > Can India produce a Mark Zuckerberg” and the response was marvelous.
> So i
> > > decided to collect it together and make it into a list  some of the
> > > questions and problems related to it.
> > > An average Indian spends about 30 minutes of his time on the internet
> > every
> > > day.  On that Facebook and Google tops the list. Young men, college and
> > > school going students dominate the social media in urban India. A
> survey,
> > > conducted by Internet and Mobile Association of India (IAMAI) and IMRB,
> > > said the young men contribute nearly 35% to the overall urban social
> > > networking base. About 34 % are from the top 8 metros, an equal pie is
> > > contributed by small towns with a population of up to 5 lakh. Facebook
> > > virtually dwarfs all other social networking sites in India, with 97%
> of
> > 5
> > > crore of active Internet users accessing the site.
> > >
> > > Everyone uses Google at least once a day and Google has become a
> starting
> > > place for all information’s.
> > >
> > > So Why indian enterperneurs not having the   idea of start up sites
> Like
> > > Facebook  or etc .,
> > >
> > > It means that everybody have their own idea in their domains .. or
> their
> > > fields .
> > >
> > > But they dont know how to start up the concepts in Web ?
> > >
> > > I request to Ilugc to Create a blog for awareness to enterprenuers to
> > avail
> > > of these technologies u make wonders like tat for example
> > >  php,mysql,python,ruby on rails ... then the start ups will come more
> and
> > > employability will come more
> > >
> > > Criticisms are always welcome !  May be this Post is too long ... But
> its
> > > the initiative to grow up More  :-)
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Jayakumar
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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Why Our Country Lacking Enterprenuers Like Mark Zuckerburg ?

[saket sinha]

On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Karthikeyan A.K wrote:

> The thing is simple. Its all about getting kaasu, panam, duttu, money
> money. :-) Nothing else.
>
>
> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 3:35 PM, satyaakam goswami  >wrote:
>
> > On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Vignesh Nagarajan
> > wrote:
> >
> > > there us no proper guidness and support from our home itself i plannef
> to
> > > start a online comparison site related to power tools. but from my
> family
> > > side there is no support so its in hold
> > >
> >
> > you are asking for support and help from people who do not understand
> what
> > you want to do , lucky are few who get an ecosystem where there  friends
> > and family members are supporting in honing there skills and ideas
> > . Entrepreneurial path is sometimes filled with boredom and loneliness
> one
> > has to even fight that more than once it happens people around you
> will
> > not  understands what  you want do .
> >
> > -Satya
> > fossevents.in
> >
> >
> >
> > > On May 15, 2013 10:13 AM, "jaya kumar" 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hai to all
> > > >
> > > > Can India produce a Mark Zuckerberg” and the response was marvelous.
> > So i
> > > > decided to collect it together and make it into a list  some of the
> > > > questions and problems related to it.
> > > > An average Indian spends about 30 minutes of his time on the internet
> > > every
> > > > day.  On that Facebook and Google tops the list. Young men, college
> and
> > > > school going students dominate the social media in urban India. A
> > survey,
> > > > conducted by Internet and Mobile Association of India (IAMAI) and
> IMRB,
> > > > said the young men contribute nearly 35% to the overall urban social
> > > > networking base. About 34 % are from the top 8 metros, an equal pie
> is
> > > > contributed by small towns with a population of up to 5 lakh.
> Facebook
> > > > virtually dwarfs all other social networking sites in India, with 97%
> > of
> > > 5
> > > > crore of active Internet users accessing the site.
> > > >
> > > > Everyone uses Google at least once a day and Google has become a
> > starting
> > > > place for all information’s.
> > > >
> > > > So Why indian enterperneurs not having the   idea of start up sites
> > Like
> > > > Facebook  or etc .,
> > > >
> > > > It means that everybody have their own idea in their domains .. or
> > their
> > > > fields .
> > > >
> > > > But they dont know how to start up the concepts in Web ?
> > > >
> > > > I request to Ilugc to Create a blog for awareness to enterprenuers to
> > > avail
> > > > of these technologies u make wonders like tat for example
> > > >  php,mysql,python,ruby on rails ... then the start ups will come more
> > and
> > > > employability will come more
> > > >
> > > > Criticisms are always welcome !  May be this Post is too long ... But
> > its
> > > > the initiative to grow up More  :-)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Jayakumar
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>
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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Why Our Country Lacking Enterprenuers Like Mark Zuckerburg ?

[steve]

Hi,

On Wednesday 15 May 2013 10:12 AM, jaya kumar wrote:
> [...snip...]
> So Why indian enterperneurs not having the   idea of start up sites Like
> Facebook  or etc .,
>

This is not exactly true. There are plenty of Indian entrepreneurs. Off the top 
of my head I can think of Gluster, SlideShare, PubMatic, Druva (disclaimer: I 
personally know the CEO of Druva) ...etc. All of these are pretty much market 
leaders in their market space, just like Facebook is in the socail network 
space.

That said, there are a few realities that are specific to India which act as 
deterrents or disadvantages toward entrepreneurship in India. This articles 
covers some of these problem:

http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2013-01-25/news/36548273_1_young-entrepreneurs-seedfund-job

Besides these, those are some practical issues too:
a. In India children's education and emergency medical costs are something that 
you have to plan towards and save up for. These costs are low to non-existent 
in 
a lot of developed nations. So bootstapping is much harder here in your 20s-30s 
unless you come from reasonably wealthy (and understanding) family.

b. In India, failure is seen negatively in startup circles (ie: by VCs and 
other 
potential investors or even family / society). In the valley VCs generally 
judge 
you from what you've learnt from your failures. So they are more likely to fund 
someone who has tried once and gained from the experience than a complete new 
entrepreneur. This is not true in India.

c. Government Bureaucracy and Corruption, coupled with arcane policies/lows 
governing the IT business.

cheers,
- steve
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[Ashwin Dixit]

On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 6:57 AM, steve  wrote:

That said, there are a few realities that are specific to India which act as
> deterrents or disadvantages toward entrepreneurship in India. This articles
> covers some of these problem:
>
>
> http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2013-01-25/news/36548273_1_young-entrepreneurs-seedfund-job
>
>
I enjoyed this informative article. One factor it briefly mentions is the
role of education in curbing entrepreneurship in India.
Education in India IMHO, seems to be optimized for the most common-case:
take a rural child, and impart skills that make her/him financially
self-sustaining.
Basically we mold children to get jobs.
Education is highly competitive, and has a hierarchical caste system that
would impress Aldous Huxley.
The Alphas, the students with the highest marks, study Science. Alphas
bifurcate into Maths ( Engineers etc. ) or Biology ( Doctors etc. ).
The Betas, the students with Ok marks, study Commerce.
The Gammas, are the students with low marks. The Gammas study Arts and
Humanities.

So, what's wrong with this picture? It certainly seems that all those
Commerce students should become entrepreneurs.
Turns out that most students are breathlessly escaping the poverty of the
previous generation.
The mindset is very utilitarian. Get a good job with more pay, and you're
Ok. :)

Problem is, we have already taught everyone that Art is for losers.
We are geared more towards producing Bill Gates than Steve Jobs.
( The dichotomy is false, but I will use it anyway. :)

Our educational system is designed to churn out money-making robots, rather
than imaginative, creative beings.
Hard work is not enough to become an entrepreneur!
Entrepreneurship takes courage, and imagination. Art teaches those
qualities.
Entrepreneurs go beyond just getting a job, like the system programmed
everyone to.
Entrepreneurs have hacked the OS that the CBSE installed in their brains.
Entrepreneurship demands artistic vision, not merely numbers!

For all my criticism of the Indian education system, I approve of its
utilitarian goals.
Reality is, India is a nation that is slowly but surely escaping the
clutches of poverty.
We do need Engineers, lots of them!

I wish that we would inculcate a healthy respect for Art.
Art is the magic ingredient that will make students more well-rounded, and
entrepreneurial.

Beyond that, Art makes people happier.
Here is some of my amateur art: http://bit.ly/artislife

Cheers,

- Ashwin.

=
Subvert the dominant paradigm. Repeat as desired.
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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Why Our Country Lacking Enterprenuers Like Mark Zuckerburg ?

[Arun Venkataswamy]

On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Ashwin Dixit wrote:

> I enjoyed this informative article. One factor it briefly mentions is the
> role of education in curbing entrepreneurship in India.
> Education in India IMHO, seems to be optimized for the most common-case:
> take a rural child, and impart skills that make her/him financially
> self-sustaining.
> Basically we mold children to get jobs.
> Education is highly competitive, and has a hierarchical caste system that
>

Sorry I had to snip off the rest of your informative text.
I enjoyed reading that. Thanks.

I read another interesting article but I forgot where from:
It said the Indian school education system is `perfect`, but for what it
was designed for.
What was it designed for? To create perfect clerks for the British raj.

Time to wake up!

This might be a separate OT discussion - You need passion to become
entrepreneur and where's the passion? I might be generalizing too much, but
where's the passion? Very few people in my extended circle of friends, both
personal and work are passionate about anything. I am talking about true
joys of trying a new programming language, getting results out of a new
API, Listening to your fav singer live, clicking that perfect photograph,
enjoy the overwhelming sight of the milky way from a dark location...
Forget entrepreneurship, most wealthy and educated Indians need to learn
how to live - employed or self employed!

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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Why Our Country Lacking Enterprenuers Like Mark Zuckerburg ?

[Tavish Naruka]

On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Arun Venkataswamy wrote:

> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Ashwin Dixit  >wrote:
>
> Sorry I had to snip off the rest of your informative text.
> I enjoyed reading that. Thanks.
>
> I read another interesting article but I forgot where from:
> It said the Indian school education system is `perfect`, but for what it
> was designed for.
> What was it designed for? To create perfect clerks for the British raj.
>
> Time to wake up!
>
>
I think you are talking about this
http://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_build_a_school_in_the_cloud.html

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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Why Our Country Lacking Enterprenuers Like Mark Zuckerburg ?

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 7:27 PM, steve  wrote:
> That said, there are a few realities that are specific to India which act as
> deterrents or disadvantages toward entrepreneurship in India.

And, at the same time, the last 5 years have demonstrated a
willingness of a large number of individuals (of all ages) to attempt
to develop a business away from the "I'll get a job" model. I find
that reassuring because  it indicates that slowly (even if it is more
slowly than we'd like) the ability to take a chance is being built.

The part from the article with which I disagree is that it tends to
conclude that education is a means to an end. Education is, and mostly
has been a guide - a pointer to further ways of development.
Unfortunately, like all other things, it has morphed into an entity
which is measured by marks on the score-card.


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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Why Our Country Lacking Enterprenuers Like Mark Zuckerburg ?

[Ashwin Dixit]

On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay <
sankarshan.mukhopadh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The part from the article with which I disagree is that it tends to
> conclude that education is a means to an end. Education is, and mostly
> has been a guide - a pointer to further ways of development.
> Unfortunately, like all other things, it has morphed into an entity
> which is measured by marks on the score-card.
>
>
>
I just saw the TED talk by Sugata Mitra that Tavish posted.
Just mindblowing! No more canings. :)

I suggest a different testing strategy for the future.
Give the students all the resources they need to "know", all the time.
As Mr. Mitra says, "knowing is obsolete".
Let the students consult books, computers, the Internet, each other, and
anyone they can get to help, maybe even the teacher ( if she/he is not
careful ).
FOSS is one of those things. Children of the future should be given tools
they can evolve to their needs and share with others.
The slogan is: "By any means handy!"

The test will be that of imagination, not knowledge.
There will be no right answers, because the test-creator won't assume that
he/she is smarter than the test-takers.
In fact, we should give these wonderkids all the resources they need to
imagine, let them self-organize,
and sit back and expect to be blown away by their creative solutions.
They will come up with things we can't imagine! The current education
system doesn't account for the Flynn effect.
We have to acknowledge that our kids are going to be smarter than us, and
inhabit a very different world than us.
Mr. Mitra even suggests that children are an emerging new species, more
evolved than Homo Sapiens. What a thought!

Orson Scott Card's highly relevant book, "Ender's Game" is being made into
a movie.

Cheers,

- Ashwin.

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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Why Our Country Lacking Enterprenuers Like Mark Zuckerburg ?

[Raman.P]

--- On Thu, 16/5/13, Ashwin Dixit  wrote:

> We have to acknowledge that our kids are going to be smarter
> than us, and
> inhabit a very different world than us.
> Mr. Mitra even suggests that children are an emerging new
> species, more
> evolved than Homo Sapiens. What a thought!

Human intelligence 'peaked thousands of years ago and we've been on an 
intellectual and emotional decline ever since', see the link
below

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/human-intelligence-peaked-thousands-of-years-ago-and-weve-been-on-an-intellectual-and-emotional-decline-ever-since-8307101.html

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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Why Our Country Lacking Enterprenuers Like Mark Zuckerburg ?

[Raman.P]

--- On Thu, 16/5/13, Ashwin Dixit  wrote:

> We have to acknowledge that our kids are going to be smarter
> than us, and
> inhabit a very different world than us.
> Mr. Mitra even suggests that children are an emerging new
> species, more
> evolved than Homo Sapiens. What a thought!

Human intelligence 'peaked thousands of years ago and we've been on an 
intellectual and emotional decline ever since', see the link
below

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/human-intelligence-peaked-thousands-of-years-ago-and-weve-been-on-an-intellectual-and-emotional-decline-ever-since-8307101.html

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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Why Our Country Lacking Enterprenuers Like Mark Zuckerburg ?

[Ashwin Dixit]

On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 1:05 AM, Raman.P  wrote:

>
>
> --- On Thu, 16/5/13, Ashwin Dixit  wrote:
>
> > We have to acknowledge that our kids are going to be smarter
> > than us
>
Human intelligence 'peaked thousands of years ago and we've been on an
> intellectual and emotional decline ever since', see the link
> below
>
>
> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/human-intelligence-peaked-thousands-of-years-ago-and-weve-been-on-an-intellectual-and-emotional-decline-ever-since-8307101.html
>
>
Interesting article. It's more ideas than facts.
For facts, check the Flynn effect:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect


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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Why Our Country Lacking Enterprenuers Like Mark Zuckerburg ?

[balachandar muruganantham]

On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 10:12 AM, jaya kumar wrote:

> Hai to all
>
> Can India produce a Mark Zuckerberg” and the response was marvelous. So i
> decided to collect it together and make it into a list  some of the
> questions and problems related to it.
> An average Indian spends about 30 minutes of his time on the internet every
> day.  On that Facebook and Google tops the list. Young men, college and
> school going students dominate the social media in urban India. A survey,
> conducted by Internet and Mobile Association of India (IAMAI) and IMRB,
> said the young men contribute nearly 35% to the overall urban social
> networking base. About 34 % are from the top 8 metros, an equal pie is
> contributed by small towns with a population of up to 5 lakh. Facebook
> virtually dwarfs all other social networking sites in India, with 97% of 5
> crore of active Internet users accessing the site.
>
> Everyone uses Google at least once a day and Google has become a starting
> place for all information’s.
>
> So Why indian enterperneurs not having the   idea of start up sites Like
> Facebook  or etc .,
>
> It means that everybody have their own idea in their domains .. or their
> fields .
>
> But they dont know how to start up the concepts in Web ?
>
> I request to Ilugc to Create a blog for awareness to enterprenuers to avail
> of these technologies u make wonders like tat for example
>  php,mysql,python,ruby on rails ... then the start ups will come more and
> employability will come more
>
> Criticisms are always welcome !  May be this Post is too long ... But its
> the initiative to grow up More  :-)
>
>
>
The world / india does not need another mark zuckerberg. You be the real
you.

our India have created Tatas, Reliance, Infosys and many biggies

Learn to accept the people from here rather than importing it.

just that we always brag about the products / people from west and forget
our own people.

our people have stopped knowing our own history. only then, we know how
good we are.

the spirit of entrepreneurship is in getting things done.

are you ready for that?

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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Why Our Country Lacking Enterprenuers Like Mark Zuckerburg ?

[Ashwin Dixit]

I have several MBA's in my family.
They all have jobs for big, stable corporations.
I like to tease such MBA's, saying they should really be called SBA's (
Slaves of Business Administration ).
I can only hope MBA's join big companies, hoping to learn complex systems,
and eventually start their own companies.

In the office of a start-up, I saw a painting in the interview room.
It was the picture of a huge rocket on its launchpad, pointed at the stars.
At the bottom of the rocket, was a tiny human figure.
If you looked closely, this tiny human had strapped himself/herself to the
huge rocket.
I joined this start-up, and worked for several others too.
That painting still explains enterprise to me.

Getting a stable job is a viable life strategy.
Entrepreneurs are insane people who want money.
Because "eccentric" = "insane" + "money"

If you are not insane, don't start a company.
Without insane passion, maybe you will turn out some mediocre
product/service.
Most likely, you will fail. It's not worth it.

If you are insanely passionate however, you will enjoy the journey and
learn from it.
"Fate protects fools, little children and ships named Enterprise"

Cheers,

- Ashwin.

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