Re: [ilugd] Linux webhosting

2003-06-23 Thread Tarun Dua
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 11:00, Ambar Roy wrote:
> Hi,
> I need to set up a new Linux server for webhosting. I would like to get
> feedback on the different control panels that are available for webhosting
> using linux. I would also appreciate any feedback on the various hosting and
> colocation facilities. Right now we are considering either colocating a
> server at VSNL Delhi or getting a dedicated server from Reliance.
> 
> Ambar
Our very own Raj Mathur's Vishwakarma is a strong OSS control panel with
a good LDAP based authentication and cascaded design. Recommended for
the level of support you'll get on this list or the VK's lists, though
as Raj would tell you its not for the weak hearted.

Then there is commercial cpanel, ensim, plesk of which cpanel is a
relatively clean design. ensim is a cross between a VSD/Web-based
control and difficult to troubleshoot. Plesk is not maintained well. 

There are a couple of others out there on Sourceforge.

Webmin + Usermin though not oriented towards webhosting is a pretty much
robust and excellent solution.

About the last point I am not really convinced good hosting is possible
in India based Data Centers (period)

-Tarun Dua


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[ilugd] user creation problem

2003-06-23 Thread MALKIAT BENIPAL
dear all,

I use Mandrake 9.0. I am facing a peculiar problem on
account of user creation from root. Whenever, I try to
create a user it says "vipw lockfile (/etc/ptmp) is
present !" thereby not enabling me to create a user.
What do we mean by this msg and how I should handle
it, please guide.

Secondly, pl. let me know how I can create a user
without entering a password.

wish good wishes,

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[ilugd] user creation problem

2003-06-23 Thread MALKIAT BENIPAL
Dear virdi saheb,

Hope, this will find you in the best of yr health &
good spirit. 

Sir, as you know, I use Mandrake 9.0. I am facing a
peculiar problem on account of user creation from
root. Whenever, I try to create a user it says "vipw
lockfile (/etc/ptmp) is present !" thereby not
enabling me to create a user. What do we mean by this
msg and how I should handle it, please guide.

Secondly, pl. let me know how I can create a user
without entering a password.

wish good wishes,

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[ilugd] RedHat Installation Prob

2003-06-23 Thread Arshad H. Siddiqui
Hi

I did wat Bipin suggested I installed LILO insted of GRUB this 
time on REDHAT 8.0 but gain horrible results
aftr boot my comp hangs at foll line.

"Finding module dependencies."

RedHat detected my AGP card bt was not able 2 detect my monitor so 
I went 4 Generic one and gave the Horizontal and vertical 
frequency as was in my Samtel monitors manuel.

I m dying 2 run Linux back on my comp aftr I 've upgraded .

any help would be appreciated

regards Arshad



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On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 bipin sartape wrote :

dear friend,
 i had the same problem. install lilo as
your boot manager. go to nvidia website. download the
driver  NVIDIA_nforce.rpm corresponding to red hat
7.2 or 7.3 something like & that. ur system should
start working. my hardware configuration was also
similar to u.
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wrote:



> Hi folks
>
> recently I've upgraded my comp to---
> AMD Athlon 2000+
> MotherBoard- ASUS (A7N266-BM SC/WL-UAYZ)
> 256 MB DDR RAM
> AGP- Nvidia GeForce Mx2
> Sound- Nvidia Force Audio Codec
>
> I stll use my old Monitor SAMTEL on which I'd used
> Red Hat 7.2
>
> After upgradation whn I was tryin to install 
>
> (1)Red Hat 8.0 in Graphical mode it says unable to
> probe monitor and goes for a blank screen.
>
> (2)Aftr installin RedHat 7.2 successfully at the
> time of startup it hangs at
>starting APD Dameon
>
> (3)I trid installng RedHat 8.0 in text mode,
> installation was successful, but after the GRUB
> screen following error msg coms up-
> 
> Booting 'Red Hat Linux (2.4.8-14)'
> root(hd0,6)
> FileSusyem type is ext2fs,partition type 0x83
> Kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.18-14 ro root=LABEL=/
> [Linux-bzImage,setup=)x1400,size=)x10ea0d]
>
> Error 28:Selected item cannot fit into memory
>
> Press any key to continue.
> _
>
> aftr pressn key it gos bak 2 GRUB screen.
> Horribly I'd set partition type as ext3 ...why does
> it says FileSystem type is ext2fs.
>
> what does it mean by selected item cannot fit into
> memory?
> Pl. dont tell me that I m havn prob with Swap
> partition coz I ve 256 MB RAM and my swap partion I
> d set as 512 MB. so I dont thnk its coz of SWAP
> partition.
>
> I want 2 install Red Hat 8.0 with Graphics and sound
> fully functioning... n tht would be a dream com true
> aftr so many hassls I d been facing since last one
> week...trying out all alternatives.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> regards
> Arshad H. Siddiqui
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[ilugd] Linux webhosting

2003-06-23 Thread Ambar Roy
Hi,
I need to set up a new Linux server for webhosting. I would like to get
feedback on the different control panels that are available for webhosting
using linux. I would also appreciate any feedback on the various hosting and
colocation facilities. Right now we are considering either colocating a
server at VSNL Delhi or getting a dedicated server from Reliance.

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Re: [ilugd] Memory management

2003-06-23 Thread Tarun Dua
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 22:35, supreet wrote:
> Memory caches of shared libraries remain loaded. This could be the
> reason for the anamoly
> 
> On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 17:47, Jasmeet S. Virdi wrote:
> > Hi folx,
> > I am trying to fine tune an app here with regards to its memory
> > and CPU usage. When I typically work on windows, I c the memory going up
> > by some amount when I run my app and coming back to the same level when
> > I shutdown the app. But on linux, the app takes some memory while
> > running and when I shutdown the app, I dunt get back to the original
> > memory level.i tried performing this experiment of mine with other linux
> > apps as well and saw the same behavior (nautilus, etc.) Could someone
> > let me know the reasons for this. I can send more details of the things
> > that I did if u want.

That is the 'expected' behavior.
Thats due to the way the Free Memory is treated in Linux. 
I would put it as Free Memory is actually the memory that is unusable (
immediately) by the system/user programs.  They get all the memory from
cached memory and buffers. So actually the real measure of free memory
would be 
$actualfreememory = $freememory + $buffer + $cached
This behavior can be in part modified by changing the kernel parameters
to change the over commit memory algorithm to do not over commit. 

See the output of 

free 

see the "real" unused memory.

Tarun Dua


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Re: [ilugd] Some Photos

2003-06-23 Thread Kishore Bhargava
Hi! Nishi,

> Have you tried the ILUG-D one?

You have mentioned this before, but where exactly is the option. I was 
logged in on the site and went to an already existing event (May Meet) but 
did not see an option to add photos??

> Would you please let me know what is not acceptable and/or working so
> that at least, I can take a shot at it.

Would surely love to try, anything would be better than what I have put up 
right now ;)

Do tell please.

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Re: [ilugd] Some Photos

2003-06-23 Thread Nishikant Kapoor
Have you tried the ILUG-D one?

Would you please let me know what is not acceptable and/or working so
that at least, I can take a shot at it.

Regards,
Nishi


Kishore Bhargava wrote:
> 
> Hi! All,
> 
> Till such time that someone can find a decent Photo Gallery software and a
> method of hosting on the current Linux delhi site, here are some photos
> that had been taken in various meets including the last two.
> 
> http://www.linkaxis.com/ilug-delhi/
> 
> Enjoy!
> 
> Cheers...Kishore
> 
> PS: pardon the html I am lousy at it ;)
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[ilugd] Some Photos

2003-06-23 Thread Kishore Bhargava
Hi! All,

Till such time that someone can find a decent Photo Gallery software and a 
method of hosting on the current Linux delhi site, here are some photos 
that had been taken in various meets including the last two.

http://www.linkaxis.com/ilug-delhi/

Enjoy!

Cheers...Kishore

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[ilugd] FW: Need help

2003-06-23 Thread Kapoor, Nishikant X
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> Message from Narasimhan Ramaswamy:
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> I am preparing for redhat linux exam. 
> I need some help from your side. Tell me some guys who 
> cleared rhce and give some information about how the exam 
> going to be and how i have prepare for the exam.  If possible 
> send me some links for linux job openings.
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Re: [ilugd] System crash was Upgrading Kernel of RedHat 7.1 onaremoteserver

2003-06-23 Thread Ambar Roy
> This problem arise when you can not save your mail in mail queue like your
> mail queue doesn't exists or you have mailer(Procmail problem). So check
if
> it is not due to first reason.
Mails come all right. It is only when the system crashed that this message
was there. It was one of the last few messages in the log after which the
log went silent.

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Re: [ilugd] Memory management

2003-06-23 Thread supreet
Memory caches of shared libraries remain loaded. This could be the
reason for the anamoly

On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 17:47, Jasmeet S. Virdi wrote:
> Hi folx,
>   I am trying to fine tune an app here with regards to its memory
> and CPU usage. When I typically work on windows, I c the memory going up
> by some amount when I run my app and coming back to the same level when
> I shutdown the app. But on linux, the app takes some memory while
> running and when I shutdown the app, I dunt get back to the original
> memory level.i tried performing this experiment of mine with other linux
> apps as well and saw the same behavior (nautilus, etc.) Could someone
> let me know the reasons for this. I can send more details of the things
> that I did if u want.
> 
> Thanx
> -jasmeet
> 
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Re: [ilugd] how to implement VPN

2003-06-23 Thread Naresh Narang
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--- tanmaya Anand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi all,
> 
>   We have a linux based internet gateway in our main
> office. our office runs on private IPs. we want to
> establish a VPN across our other 5 offices in
> different cities, with our office as the main
> server. other offices have dial- up connectivity to
> internet. All our client machines are windows-based.
> 
> 
> Can anyone tell me how to implement VPN to connect
> all our offices, as i dont have any knowledge of VPN
> implementation or what software/hardware is needed
> for it. 
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
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RE: [ilugd] Memory management

2003-06-23 Thread Jasmeet S. Virdi
I dun think this is the case, Windows too caches pages and u can conduct
various experiments to check that. What I doubt is the reading that
taskmanager shows ..may b it only show the app in use and not the cached
pages, while linux does show the actual state of the memory .. Any body
got any ideas on this one !!

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> let me know the reasons for this. I can send more details of the 
> things that I did if u want.
>

the reason is that linux has better memory caching than windows. When u
start the same app again on linux it would load up from the cache and
take less time to load. This is not the case with windows.


Sharninder Singh
National Institute Of Management, Calcutta


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Re: [ilugd] RAID 1/Mirroring on linux

2003-06-23 Thread Yashpal Nagar
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 14:30, Mithun Bhattacharya wrote:
> 
> --- Yashpal Nagar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > > RAID0 : no redundancy - preferred where data redundancy data is
> > split
> 
> > 
> > If no redundancy is there, then what data redundacy you talking about
> > in
> > RAID0.
> 
> Sorry typo - was the posting helpful otherwise ?
> 

Mithun,No doubt it was very helpful in a nutshell to remember RAID
system, i put it in my notes for fast remembering.


Regards,
-Yash

> It should read
> -
> preferred where data redundancy is not required and multiple physical
> disks need to me merged to create a single large partition
> -
> 
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[ilugd] how to implement VPN

2003-06-23 Thread tanmaya Anand
hi all,

  We have a linux based internet gateway in our main office. our office runs on 
private IPs. we want to establish a VPN across our other 5 offices in different 
cities, with our office as the main server. other offices have dial- up connectivity 
to internet. All our client machines are windows-based. 

Can anyone tell me how to implement VPN to connect all our offices, as i dont have any 
knowledge of VPN implementation or what software/hardware is needed for it. 

Thanks in advance

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Re: [ilugd] Mount Filesystems

2003-06-23 Thread Vikram Goyal

-Original Message-
From: "D.Venkatasubramanian, Noida" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 03:00:58PM +0530
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Subject: [ilugd] Mount Filesystems


> Hi,
> 
> I have a RHL 8.0 system, it dual boots with Win
> NT, so I have three partitions with NTFS. So,
> I recompiled the kernel and now I can mount
> those NTFS partitions as Read-only. But the
> problem is, I am able to mount the partitions
> only as superuser, so I can only access them as
> superuser. Is there a workaround, that is mount
> the partitions so that any user on the system
> can access them?
> 
> There is a similar problem with NFS mounts?

Please start a new thread for a new query.

In /etc/fstab insertdefaults,ro,users   instead of   defaults,ro
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[ilugd] More on SCO

2003-06-23 Thread puneet goel
On Friday, June 20, the Provo Linux Users Group
decided to head on over to SCO's offices and hold a
protest

 http://mirror.lug-nut.com/

Do that have some office in india too ;). i am preety
serious.



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Re: [ilugd] Mount Filesystems

2003-06-23 Thread harmeek singh

edit the /etc/fstab file.doing so will automatically mount the partitions when u boot 
up.i guess this will solve ur problem

harmeek.

On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 D.Venkatasubramanian, Noida wrote :
>Hi,
>
>I have a RHL 8.0 system, it dual boots with Win
>NT, so I have three partitions with NTFS. So,
>I recompiled the kernel and now I can mount
>those NTFS partitions as Read-only. But the
>problem is, I am able to mount the partitions
>only as superuser, so I can only access them as
>superuser. Is there a workaround, that is mount
>the partitions so that any user on the system
>can access them?
>
>There is a similar problem with NFS mounts?
>
>Regards,
>
>Venky
>
>
>
>
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[ilugd] Mount Filesystems

2003-06-23 Thread D.Venkatasubramanian, Noida
Hi,

I have a RHL 8.0 system, it dual boots with Win
NT, so I have three partitions with NTFS. So,
I recompiled the kernel and now I can mount
those NTFS partitions as Read-only. But the
problem is, I am able to mount the partitions
only as superuser, so I can only access them as
superuser. Is there a workaround, that is mount
the partitions so that any user on the system
can access them?

There is a similar problem with NFS mounts?

Regards,

Venky





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RE: [ilugd] RAID 1/Mirroring on linux

2003-06-23 Thread Mithun Bhattacharya

--- "Jasmeet S. Virdi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanx for the response guys .. 
> I have experience of RAID on windows boxes, but that was a different
> talk altogether.
> Right now I have a couple of partitions on my linux box and have
> narrowed down to mirroring/RAID1 using software, cud u suggest what
> all
> should I put on RAID. 
> I have 
> /boot separate partition
> /data separate partition
> /app  separate partition
> Rest all under / partition
> /data partion is something like the application data. And /app is the
> installed application.
> 
> I reckon /boot, /app and my /data partitions would be the likely
> candidates. Do u think / partition should also be mirrored ??
> 
> ALSO if I go in for HARDWARE RAID, could you gimme an idea as to what
> all RAID CONTROLLERS work with Linux ??


Assuming the uptime of the server is critical why would you not want to
have the whole setup on RAID ?

You donot need to have a /boot partition unless you are using a very
old motherboard.

A typical MySQL specific RAID setup is given below :

/dev/ida/c0d0p1   2.0G  946M  967M  50% /
none 1008M 0 1008M   0% /dev/shm
/dev/ida/c0d0p6  1008M   17M  939M   2% /tmp
/dev/ida/c0d0p726G   13G   12G  50% /var/lib/mysql
/dev/ida/c0d0p2   2.0G   40M  1.8G   3% /var/log

For me all data sits in /var/lib/mysql all applications sit in / what I
definitely want is that no temporary files or log should grow so big
that it renders my server unusuable. Which is why /tmp and /var/log are
separate partitions.

Note the setup shown above is a Hardware RAID5 setup but the partition
structure is more important than RAID level being used.

To answer your other query this is a LSI Logic / Symbios Logic 53c895
(rev 02) RAID card.


Mithun

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Re: [ilugd] RAID 1/Mirroring on linux

2003-06-23 Thread Mithun Bhattacharya

--- Yashpal Nagar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > RAID0 : no redundancy - preferred where data redundancy data is
> split

> 
> If no redundancy is there, then what data redundacy you talking about
> in
> RAID0.

Sorry typo - was the posting helpful otherwise ?

It should read
-
preferred where data redundancy is not required and multiple physical
disks need to me merged to create a single large partition
-

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[ilugd] user creation problem

2003-06-23 Thread MALKIAT BENIPAL
dear all,

i use mandrake linux 9.0. Whenever,I try to create a
user from the root, I get the msg as "vipw lockfile
(/etc/ptmp) is present !", thereby not enabling me to
create a user. pl. guide me how I can overcome this
problem.

secondly, pl. let me know how I can create a user
without entering a password.

thanks in anticipation.

best regards,
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Re: [ilugd] System crash was Upgrading Kernel of RedHat 7.1 onaremote server

2003-06-23 Thread Kuldeep Tomar
Hi,

This problem arise when you can not save your mail in mail queue like your 
mail queue doesn't exists or you have mailer(Procmail problem). So check if 
it is not due to first reason.

Kuldeep


From: Tarun Dua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],The Linux-Delhi mailing list 
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Subject: Re: [ilugd] System crash was Upgrading Kernel of RedHat 7.1 on 
aremote server
Date: 23 Jun 2003 09:48:19 +0530

> I was just going thru the logs after the last shutdown, and it seems 
that
> just before the system went down, something went wrong with the 
filesystems,
> as sendmail has the following log entries:
>  sendmail[19889]: h5KMekR19889: Losing ./qfh5KMekR19889: savemail 
panic
>  sendmail[19889]: h5KMekR19889: SYSERR(root): savemail: cannot save
> rejected email anywhere
>
> Does anyone have any idea of what can be going wrong?
I would first ask what is the output of

df

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Re: [ilugd] help needed for LAN, saving on C drive.

2003-06-23 Thread Rajesh K. Jha
Thanks puneet, I will try doing this. But after I did trial and error with
my computer (Linux), I now find that I am unable to open even the floppy and
the CD rom, though the mnt shows the floppy, CD drive even the three drives
that I have hda1,2,6. I don't know what has happened.
I have to run these commands in terminal-is that the linux counterpart of
DOS prompt. Pls. guide. I also had downloaded a file which helped me play
MP3, but now nothing is playing on my system from the CD, Floppy or HD
drive.
No, I am in Munirka and for the last 4 days my LAN server is down
Hoping to get guidance from you soon.
rajesh
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From: Puneet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: RE: [ilugd] help needed for LAN, saving on C drive.


> Try these commands in ur terminal Rajesh:
>
> 1.
> mkdir %c
> %chmod a+rw /c
>
> or
>
> 2.
> mount /dev/hda1(i.e ur 1st HD partition)/c -t vfat
> /dev/hda1 /c vfat noauto user 0 2
> mount /c
>
>
> _
>
>
> I think u r from Lajpat Nagar 'coz the same problem of 24 online client is
with me although i have mounted the partitions ...but i am not able to
use the client ...
>
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