Re: [ilugd] [Fwd: Looking for Linux training institute. Really?
Hey! you just sent your name and details on a public mailing list with perhaps thousands of subscribers, in delhi. did i mention the list *may* have several lurkers from the instt you mention? Hehe, good thinking! ;) I was just thinking (and let me not be flamebait foe this!) - does learning Linux (or for that matter windows or what have you) really require an insitute? Lets see what an institute *should give you, in terms of infrastructure and instructors. 1)A/C labs with machines running the required software 2)Course material with excercises and things 3)Experienced faculty 4)A certificate (in or without association with an company like RedHat) Now, based on certain bad experiences which people have made public on the list (including but not limited to inferior facilities, inexperienced instructors etc), as well as having come across people who've faced similar experiences, why don't we decide before hand whether an institute is up to the mark or not? Now, that in itself is a tough task, since there exist no *definite certification guidelines (is the ISO or something valid here?). And, It is obviously not possible for a newbie to determine the standards being followed at any of these institutes. Another important factor here is, most graduates of such institutes rejoin them as faculty, without gaining too much practical and application specific knowledge (Correct me if I'm wrong). The result is imparting knowledge which itself is partial. (As an example, if someone is taught by an instructor, he/she doesnt gain 100% of the knowledge which the latter has. At the very max, may be about 70%. If this person then goes to teach another newbie, the resulting decline is easily noticeable.) Maybe its possible for the community to actually get together and form/or propogate a certification scheme? or at the very least, do (on a volunteer basis) a review of the more famous institutes as a guide to neophytes. and IMHO, getting your hands dirty sitting on a computer, with a couple of tutorials on the side, and actually *working on something new beats going through a book from cover to cover. Unless you actually try and manipulate your computer to do something, you're really not going to learn much. And as sorry to as I am to say it, most institutes (and even a few universities) hardly give focus to practical matters. (BTW, I'm currently *Not in Delhi, and these statements are *not directed at any particualr institute or individual on this mailing list. This is a general amalgamation of my thoughts :-) Regards, vik = -- Viksit Gaur http://www.viksit.com me[at]viksit.com viksit[at]linux-delhi[dot]org 'Not all who wander are lost.' - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring __ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Linux FTP Proxy server
Thanks. Kindly forward the rules. regards anil On Fri, 2004-04-23 at 19:50, anshul makkar wrote: ftp is not done through proxy server. proxy server has no role in ftp transfers. use ipforwarding and ipmasquerading so as to let ftp requests go through your proxy. if u don't have iptabbles rule , let me know i will forward it to u. i also faced similar problem previously. vivek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2004-04-23 at 11:09 +0530, anil bindal wrote: Hi all, Currently we are using Squid and it does not allow FTP clients to connect through. Could some one suggest Linux RH 7.3 based HTTP/FTP Proxy server which would allow the FTP clients like gftp/cuteFTP to upload/download data through it. frox - http://frox.sourceforge.net/ -- \|||/ (o o) ooO-(_)-Ooo- | vivek | GPG Key: | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://exain.net/vike | || | Registered Linux User: #305493 | ( _ ) _| | | |_ (___| |___) ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25ยข ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] IRQ Conflict RH 9.0
Hi I have just installed RH 9.0 on my PC the n/w card was not recognized I checked and found its broadcom 5700 so got binaries from the website and compiled them but when I am trying to insert the modules it says something like problem installing init_module May be due to IO or IRQ errors for more info see syslog or dmesg I checked dmesg found IRQ3 shared Then I checked /proc/pci and found that the IRQ3 is shared by USB controller and the Ethernet controller And this what happens also when I say kudzu -p the mouse(which is USB) starts behaving erratically and I have to restart my pc. Any suggestions how to resolve it Thanks Best Regards Manoj Thakkar Confidentiality Notice The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender at Wipro or [EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] PlayFair: what's happening
hey! the playfair controversy refuses to blow away. a heck lot is happening even as you read this email. there's something called the FSF-WG (the free software foundation: working group) this discussion is most active there, with responses from richard stallman (founder, fsf), eben moglen (professor of law, columbia university), george kurien (indian law expert) and lots more. also heard that deeproot linux has decided to host it on their site. yesterday the author of DeDRM that 'opens' playfair published the code freely on the net, and meanwhile, a lot of international press has been fed regular updates on this. what is mentioned here is the tip of the iceberg. lots more happeing. :-) LL ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Is GPLd software truly free?
Anirban Biswas wrote: Hi When RMS wrote GPL he kept in mind how a drug seller sells drug he at first give free drugs when ppl get affected he take as much money as can from them Linking a GPLed lib with a closed exe is same thing at first they will get you addicted then they will tell to get extra features you have to use thier libs. The thread has become a GPL vs. other licenses battlefield which is not what I intended to discuss at all. The objective of the GPL is to rid the world of proprietary software, which it seems to be doing very well :-) .. That's good enough for me. What I really wanted to know were concrete reasons as to why allowing closed source programs to interface with GPL'd code can be *anti-freedom*. This drug analogy is a good reason. Thanks for the answer Anirban :-) - AJ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Is GPLd software truly free?
Anupam Jain wrote: intended to discuss at all. The objective of the GPL is to rid the world of proprietary software, which it seems to be doing very well :-) .. That's good enough for me. It is essential that you get your terminology correct. The objective that you mention is that of the various FLOSS movements like GNU/FSF etc. GPL is just a licence and a tool for this movement. The objective of GPL is nothing more that ensuring that the freedom of the particular software that it covers is preserved in perpetuity. Nothing more, it is not about cleansing the world of proprietary software or anything. That is going to be entirely a side-effect. ;) - Sandip -- Sandip Bhattacharya sandip (at) puroga.com Puroga Technologies Pvt. Ltd. Work: http://www.puroga.comHome: http://www.sandipb.net GPG: 51A4 6C57 4BC6 8C82 6A65 AE78 B1A1 2280 A129 0FF3 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] [Fwd: ILUG-D: Info needed for Linux Trainig Institutes in New Delhi]
Original Message Message from ARVIND GUPTA: Hi, I would like to join some good linux training institute in New Delhi. I have no idea who is the best. Kindly can you help me , where should I get admission. Regards Arvind Gupta -- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] The Flashmob Tragedy
--- Vivek Iyyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone on the web posted about this Flashmob meet ? kya hua.. Waiting all evening for Vivek Khurana (Who I believe was supposed to be here after 11am) BTW a bit of test of the FlashMob was done. Sorry guyz for not been able to make to the meet as i was in bed since last wednesday with throat infection, heatstroke and diarrhea. I did informed as many people as i can but could not inform Mary as misplaced sarai's number. I had got moving properly today only. We might have a meet this weekend if my health allows. I will make a posting reagrding this on friday. VK = Disclamer The facts expressed here belong to everybody, the opinions to me. The distinction is yours to draw... __ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
