Re: [ilugd] Kiosk on a Linux Box

2007-03-14 Thread Anand Kapoor
Since you seem to be happily married to Windoze, I wouldnt like to
comment further
 Can't be helped :-( the Windoze environment pre-exists, the Kiosks
need to integrate into that environment. Else I would have gone down
the path you suggest.

thanks anyways though ..

Anand

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Re: [ilugd] Custom kernel compilation on Fedora Core 6

2007-03-14 Thread PJ
Karthik Ramgopal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I am trying to compile 2.6.20 kernel on Fedora Core 6, and was able
 to make menuconfig, make initrd, bzImage etc. I even added an entry to
 grub.conf so that I could boot into it. Problem is that kernel starts to
 boot, but hangs at loading system activity data collector (sadc). After
 5 mins, some garbled output appears and the kernel panics, forcing me to
 reboot. The Fedora provided kernel rpm's are till 2.6.19.2911 (Latest),
 and they work fine. What could be the issue?


You've probably configured your kernel wrong for the hardware. You may have
removed options that are needed, or may have checked on options that can't work
with the hardware you have. It may not have anything to do with the sadc.

Tips to fix it: strip out cards, use modules, compare against a live cd.




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Re: [ilugd] Custom kernel compilation on Fedora Core 6

2007-03-14 Thread sandip
Karthik Ramgopal wrote:
 Hi,
 I am trying to compile 2.6.20 kernel on Fedora Core 6, and was able
 to make menuconfig, make initrd, bzImage etc. I even added an entry to
 grub.conf so that I could boot into it. Problem is that kernel starts to
 boot, but hangs at loading system activity data collector (sadc). After
 5 mins, some garbled output appears and the kernel panics, forcing me to
 reboot. The Fedora provided kernel rpm's are till 2.6.19.2911 (Latest),
 and they work fine. What could be the issue?
   
There are many reasons for kernel panics. It would be better if you can 
provide more details about your boot messages. It is hard to guess the 
problem with amount of info that you have provided.

but ...

What you can do is, If your other kernel is working fine, you can use 
it's config file to configure your new  kernel. Then, compile it. This 
should work.

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Re: [ilugd] calendar of foss events

2007-03-14 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 14-Mar-07, at 3:45 PM, Alok G. Singh wrote:

 we have set up a calendar of foss events at

 Would it be possible to get a feed for this ? Or even a shared Google
 calendar ?

i will set up a feed when i find out how to do that - maybe now is  
the time to tackle that oft postponed task. No idea what a google  
calendar is


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Re: [ilugd] calendar of foss events

2007-03-14 Thread Alok G. Singh
On 14 Mar 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Would it be possible to get a feed for this ? Or even a shared
 Google calendar ?

 i will set up a feed when i find out how to do that - maybe now is  
 the time to tackle that oft postponed task. No idea what a google  
 calendar is

http://calendar.google.com. Ever since T. V. Raman announced[1] an
Emacs interface to the Google Data APIs, that service has become a lot
more attractive (to me atleast).

Footnotes: 
[1]  http://emacspeak.blogspot.com/2007/03/emacs-client-for-google-services.html

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Re: [ilugd] Custom kernel compilation on Fedora Core 6

2007-03-14 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
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Karanbir Singh wrote:
 Karthik Ramgopal wrote:
 Hi,
 I am trying to compile 2.6.20 kernel on Fedora Core 6, 
 
 if you just need a newer kernel, try rawhide, that has pretty much the 
 latest stuff released and built.
 

2.6.20-1.2986 is there in the rawhide and probably the latest

:SM

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Re: [ilugd] Custom kernel compilation on Fedora Core 6

2007-03-14 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
PJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Karthik Ramgopal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I am trying to compile 2.6.20 kernel on Fedora Core 6, and was
 able to make menuconfig, make initrd, bzImage etc. I even added an
 entry to grub.conf so that I could boot into it. Problem is that
 kernel starts to boot, but hangs at loading system activity data
 collector (sadc). After 5 mins, some garbled output appears and the
 kernel panics, forcing me to reboot. The Fedora provided kernel
 rpm's are till 2.6.19.2911 (Latest), and they work fine. What could
 be the issue?


 You've probably configured your kernel wrong for the hardware. You
 may have removed options that are needed, or may have checked on
 options that can't work with the hardware you have. It may not have
 anything to do with the sadc.

Beginner's  short guide to recompiling the kernel.

1. Read the Kernel-HOWTO. ;-)
2. copy /boot/config-working-kernel-version to /usr/src/linux/
3. Re-read the Kernel-HOWTO
4. Say `make oldconfig' - this should give you a bloated, but working
   kernel. Answer the questions on the command line.
5. Compile the kernel.

Chances of success are more. Once you get hold of the process, start
removing the unnecessary parts.

HTH.

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[ilugd] ldap configaration

2007-03-14 Thread syed altaf
Hi
   
  I want to install ldap on my Red Hat Linux server 4.0, Enterprise. 
  Can some one suggest me how to install.
   
  Regards
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Re: [ilugd] ldap configaration

2007-03-14 Thread Shiv


syed altaf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I want to install ldap on my Red Hat Linux server 4.0, Enterprise. 
  Can some one suggest me how to install.
   
Sure,
Which part of RTFM (Read the F*[EMAIL PROTECTED] manual don't you understand?

Regards,
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Re: [ilugd] Custom kernel compilation on Fedora Core 6

2007-03-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
Mahesh T. Pai wrote:
 
 1. Read the Kernel-HOWTO. ;-)
 2. copy /boot/config-working-kernel-version to /usr/src/linux/
 3. Re-read the Kernel-HOWTO
 4. Say `make oldconfig' - this should give you a bloated, but working
kernel. Answer the questions on the command line.
 5. Compile the kernel.
 
 Chances of success are more. Once you get hold of the process, start
 removing the unnecessary parts.
 

Mahesh, while this most likely works in some places, I'd recommend you 
stick with the packaging and system management options that your distro 
was built for. in this case, its fedora so I recommend the op really 
uses the right tool to build the kernel.

something like : rpmbuild --rebuild kernel source rpm

- KB
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Re: [ilugd] ldap configaration

2007-03-14 Thread Sudhir Gandotra
On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 10:10 -0700, Shiv wrote:
 
 syed altaf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I want to install ldap on my Red Hat Linux server 4.0, Enterprise. 
   Can some one suggest me how to install.

 Sure,
 Which part of RTFM (Read the F*[EMAIL PROTECTED] manual don't you understand?
 
 Regards,
 Shiv
While it may be true that a user may not expect the complete tutorial,
your answer gives a very bad name to Linux community, unless, you
represent microsoft. Either way, you need not respond in such an ugly
and indecent manner.
treat others as you would have them treat you
unless you have become the master of everything and don't need help from
anyone anymore in life.


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Re: [ilugd] Custom kernel compilation on Fedora Core 6

2007-03-14 Thread Shakthi Kannan
HI,

On 3/14/07, Karanbir Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mahesh, while this most likely works in some places, I'd recommend you
 stick with the packaging and system management options that your distro
 was built for.

It depends on what the user wants the kernel for. If the user wants to
do device driver/kernel development, the developers insist to use
stock kernels from kernel.org, not the distro kernels. The distro
kernels are heavily patched by the distro kernel maintainers.

Patches/enhancements to the kernel are done against stock kernels, and
may not apply cleanly to distro kernels.

SK

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[ilugd] JMI-LUG Stall at Algorhythm'07

2007-03-14 Thread devesh
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From: Sawood Alam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mar 14, 2007 11:02 PM
Subject: JMI-LUG Stall at Algorhythm'07
To: devesh [EMAIL PROTECTED], saleem ansari [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Kazim Zaidi [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]

hi guys,

its an invitation letter to all of you to join us on 17-18th march 2007 at
Jamia Millia Islamia new delhi -25, on the occasion of technocultural fest
Algorhythm'07 http://www.csijmi.com, organised by CSI-JMI.

as our fest is very much open source oriented, so we have a stall of
JMI-LUGhttp://jmilug.org,
in the lounge along with other attractions, where we will discuss all about
linux user groups, its formation, expansion, mission, collaboration and all
such kind of stuff for whole the two days. we will also try to teach
external participants about how to start a LUG and join hands to other LUGs.
we also plan to distribute some cool stuffs like linux CDs, Pens, T-Shirts
etc. So your kind presence and collaboration is expected.

Hopefully it will be a great push to our LUG mission.

Algo Rocks.
http://www.csijmi.com

Thank you

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Re: [ilugd] Custom kernel compilation on Fedora Core 6

2007-03-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
( I am not sure how your answer related to the Karthik's question since 
you can build all kernel.org release kernels as rpms, but here goes.. )

Shakthi Kannan wrote:
 It depends on what the user wants the kernel for. If the user wants to
 do device driver/kernel development, the developers insist to use
 stock kernels from kernel.org, not the distro kernels. The distro
 kernels are heavily patched by the distro kernel maintainers.

This is usually[1] not true with Rawhide since so much of kernel 
upstream is actually using it themselves. Not only kernel, a very large 
number of upstream work on the Linux platform is based on and around 
rawhide. You will also find that patches are regularly committed against 
older branches even at kernel.org

I am presently working on a 2.6.9 patch for ext4 that i hope to push 
upstream, since its likely to be of use to a lot of people. And I 
regularly sync Xen's 2.6.x patchset to 2.6.9. IF all development for 
everything only happened in Trunk/Head - things are going to get rather 
bleak for linux outside academic and developer communities.

 Patches/enhancements to the kernel are done against stock kernels, and
 may not apply cleanly to distro kernels.

Yes, but take that with a pinch of sald since this changes a lot - eg, a 
lot of enterprise grade h/w vendors ship drivers specific to a kabi used 
with the release, to avoid needing a ko rebuild every time the kernel 
updates. Some of these people ( 3ware and Areca are famous for this ) 
wont support your system running a kernel.org kernel at all.

On the other hand, a lot of functionality is built against a requirement 
( think ydl doing the ps3 stuff in linux ), and that development too 
happens against a static target then merged up later ( I am not sure if 
all the boot stuff even made it upstream as yet.. )

And if you just need to enable options in the kernel tree already 
running, nothing is easier than doing it via a manageable package route, 
makes maintaining it really easy.

anyway, i think this started out as a how-to-rebuild a kernel, and i 
still think if you are using Fedora, use the rawhide kernel. Or if you 
really cant wait 48 hrs or so, use the spec there to build a kernel.org 
image if you like.

- KB

[1] A lot of people working on the kernel actually prefer a semi stable 
kernel since that allows them to focus on what they are doing and the 
part of the source tree they are working with while keep an eye on 
changes that might affect them, they really dont want the daily patch 
grind stamping on their system regularly, or till merge anyway.

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Re: [ilugd] calendar of foss events

2007-03-14 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 14-Mar-07, at 5:23 PM, Alok G. Singh wrote:

 the time to tackle that oft postponed task. No idea what a google
 calendar is

 http://calendar.google.com. Ever since T. V. Raman announced[1] an
 Emacs interface to the Google Data APIs, that service has become a lot
 more attractive (to me atleast).

oh no - is the whole world going to surrender to google? I think I  
will stick to my humble desi efforts


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Re: [ilugd] ldap configaration

2007-03-14 Thread Shiv
Sudhir Gandotra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:your answer gives a very bad name to 
Linux community, unless, you
represent microsoft. 
Point about indecency taken, apologies are due. I should not have expanded 
RTFM!!
The bit about microsoft is more confusing!!!
I have seen similar emails from people not wanting to do a bit of honest, hard 
work;
the best thing about the OSS movement is that you have extensive documentation 
(if one knows where to look). I would suggest that people follow some kind of a 
workflow before posting problems. something similar to the following (esp 
relating to installation/configuration) might suffice: -
a) Download the binary for your distribution
b) download the documentation/read it online viz for LDAP one might consider 
www.openldap.org
c) install and configure
d) now if some issues crop up, post the problem on the list.
e) alternately, download the source and compile.
f) google is a good friend to have in these times.

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Re: [ilugd] ldap configaration

2007-03-14 Thread Sudhir Gandotra
On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 22:11 -0700, Shiv wrote:

 Sudhir Gandotra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:your answer gives a very bad name 
 to Linux community, unless, you
 represent microsoft. 
 Point about indecency taken, apologies are due. I should not have expanded 
 RTFM!!
 The bit about microsoft is more confusing!!!
 I have seen similar emails from people not wanting to do a bit of honest, 
 hard work;
 the best thing about the OSS movement is that you have extensive 
 documentation (if one knows where to look). I would suggest that people 
 follow some kind of a workflow before posting problems. something similar to 
 the following (esp relating to installation/configuration) might suffice: -
 a) Download the binary for your distribution
 b) download the documentation/read it online viz for LDAP one might consider 
 www.openldap.org
 c) install and configure
 d) now if some issues crop up, post the problem on the list.
 e) alternately, download the source and compile.
 f) google is a good friend to have in these times.
 
 regards,
 Shiv


Dear Shiv,
Thanks for positive response. This is the true spirit of Linux and Open
Source community and let's keep it up.
Thanks a lot again.
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