Re: [ilugd] Free Vs enterprise OSS releases

[Gora Mohanty]

On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 17:16 +0100, Yashpal Nagar wrote:
[...]
> What i want to know here is, as a practice should one go ahead and 
> install (on top of RHEL/SUSE) such updates/packages from Fedora or 
> Opensuse, whenever they become available? if yes what could happen to 
> the server when you apply service packs which lately become available 
> from Redhat or Novell, service pack installation would't comlain & run 
> with no trouble? if no - then what are the reasons?
[...]

In general, it is not a good idea to mix and match packages, even if
they are from distributions that are apparently related, e.g., RHEL and
Fedora. That is because the two distributions will undoubtedly have a
different set of packages, at different version numbers, and are each
tested with that particular configuration. Mixing them up is inviting
trouble, and I would only do that in a critical situation.

Regards,
Gora


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[ilugd] [Fwd: Abstract: Data mining with Open Source tools: Application to Biological Sequence Classification.]

[Gora Mohanty]

Hi,
  Here is an abstract from Soumya Sir about the talk on data mining
to be presented at the forthcoming ILUG-Delhi meet this Sun., 1st
April. It looks interesting, especially as it has applications in
other areas than just bio-informatics.

Regards,
Gora

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From: Soumyadeep nandi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Dr. Andrew Michael Lynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Abstract: Data mining with Open Source tools: Application to
Biological Sequence Classification.
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 07:37:11 -0700 (PDT)

Data mining with Open Source tools: Application to Biological Sequence
Classification. 

Computational prediction of protein function or annotation as a whole is
a challenging problem. The assignment of protein function is performed
by comparing a sequence with unknown function to sequences of known
function. There are number of methods applied in present days annotation
techniques like sequence similarity search (viz FASTA, BLAST), profile
based search (PSI-BLAST, HMMER) etc. The profile based techniques using
hidden markov model proved to be superior to sequence similarity based
methods in detecting remote homologs. Other methods used for general
discrimination are NaiveBayes, Support Vector Machine, Artificial Neural
Network, Decision tree. Recent applications extend the use of the
support vector machines to protein homology detection.  This technique
performed significantly better in image recognition and speech
recognition.

In this demo we demonstrate the application of data mining with the open
source machine learning software WEKA to sequence classification.
Regards,
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Re: [ilugd] nokia website for hall of shame?

[mehul]

On 3/29/07, Mahesh T. Pai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> I can some things, but the dropdown menus, which apparently are flash
> based do not work on this machine. (they drop down, but clicking on
> most of the items does not produce any result).
>
> I have following from ``about:plugins''.
>
> File name: libflashplayer.so
> Shockwave Flash 9.0 r31


It works for me on Bon Echo 2.0.0.2 and the version of Flash is the same
as yours -
File name: libflashplayer.so
Shockwave Flash 9.0 r31

I also have opera running and it surely doesn't run on opera, has the
problem
you have described.
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Re: [ilugd] nokia website for hall of shame?

[Mahesh T. Pai]

I had reported this earlier.

Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:

> On 29-Mar-07, at 2:06 AM, Linux Lingam wrote:
>
>> isn't it a shame that the nokia website doesn't seem compatible with
>> several other browsers and even operating systems?
>>
>> http://nokia.co.in
>
> whats wrong? as far as i can see it works for me in firefox - i didnt  
> go very deeply into the site though

I can some things, but the dropdown menus, which apparently are flash
based do not work on this machine. (they drop down, but clicking on
most of the items does not produce any result).

I have following from ``about:plugins''.

File name: libflashplayer.so
Shockwave Flash 9.0 r31

This is an i386 machine running debian unstable, and I do not get the
dropdowns on my other AMD64 machine. (that is without a net connection
for some time now.)



The result was, I could not find info about nokia phones from my
cosy, comfy armchair, and ...



Because I could not find information about nokia phones on net, I did
not buy _two_. (err... I got two phones in last three months - one for
self, and another for biwi).

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Re: [ilugd] Free Vs enterprise OSS releases

[Mahesh T. Pai]

Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:

>  but why do you think it is hard to
> find someone who has purchased a subscription for RHEL ?

Take heart, dear. What he said is that it is difficult to fild people
asking RH for support. He did not say that it difficult to find people
who purchased RHEL.

Hope I did not get him wrong.

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Re: [ilugd] Free Vs enterprise OSS releases

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

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> Its hard to find someone who has "bought" Redhat ES or AS call them up for 
> support. 

Oh dear you just broke my heart :( but why do you think it is hard to
find someone who has purchased a subscription for RHEL ?


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Re: [ilugd] Free Vs enterprise OSS releases

[Shiv]

Harish Pillay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:You should keep your commercially 
supported distribution to track what
is being made available via the support channels (RHN for example for
Red Hat) so that you can benefit from official support.

Its hard to find someone who has "bought" Redhat ES or AS call them up for 
support. For that matter people dont even call Micro$oft when their Windoze 
machine crashes. Wonder where all that money goes!!
But its also hard to find people who would readily go for a CentOS install 
against an RHEL. I guess its because its difficult for the systems guy to 
convince his management that "free" is not like "free beer".



With Warm Regards,
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Re: [ilugd] How to uninstall httpd

[Shiv]

abhishek jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Any pointers on how to uninstall 
standard servers.Do i need to do rpm -e or
something similar.

"Something Similar". Unlike in windows, you really dont have to uninstall 
anything, If you dont want these servers/services to start up, just go to 
/etc/init.d and use chkconfig to change the options for these services (before 
you ask, man chkconfig is the answer!).
IMHO, one of the cool features of linux is that multiple versions of 
servers/software can cohabit ("live in sin"?) and you could even run both or 
all of them concurrently (as long as you change the ports they listen on).
you now install apache with mod_perl and run that init script.




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Re: [ilugd] nokia website for hall of shame?

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On 29-Mar-07, at 2:06 AM, Linux Lingam wrote:

> isn't it a shame that the nokia website doesn't seem compatible with
> several other browsers and even operating systems?
>
> http://nokia.co.in

whats wrong? as far as i can see it works for me in firefox - i didnt  
go very deeply into the site though


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Re: [ilugd] Microsoft's Linux Pitch

[Linux Lingam]

oh! do check out the helpful 'resources' mentioned in the presentation:
m$ competitive selling tools; get the facts ref card; case studies;
whitepapers;...
am surprised they forgot to mention linuxasia
[g,d,r]

oops! we didn't start the fire!
hehehee


:-)
niyam

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Re: [ilugd] Microsoft's Linux Pitch

[Linux Lingam]

On 3/27/07, Akshay Lamba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not to restart a debate or bring up old issues: Here's MS pitch on the
> whole OSS/Linux bit and then happily leading a OSS conference!
> http://www.sublimemedia.com/usCSI/uscsi_web.swf
> 
>
> PS: I don't know the validity or authenticity of the content.
>
> A
>

oh! the presentation LOOKS top-class with its facts & fuigures and
strategic guidelines! well done microsoft. thank you for giving
gnulinux so much respect.

nah! we don't need a counter presentation. we need to promote this
presentation across all LUGs, and other FOSS resources.

actually, i wonder, what category does the Indian President belong to?
or did they forget that one-man category all together?

heheheee

:-)
niyam

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[ilugd] nokia website for hall of shame?

[Linux Lingam]

about 129 million mobiles in india, versus about 15 million desktops.

isn't it a shame that the nokia website doesn't seem compatible with
several other browsers and even operating systems?

http://nokia.co.in

am sure loads of other ilug-d users must have faced similar problems.

?
niyam

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Re: [ilugd] How to uninstall httpd

[Karanbir Singh]

abhishek jain wrote:
> Hi friends,
> I have a default install of httpd on RHEL 4.x AS and i want to uninstall
> it(will be installing with modperl), i need to that without the use of
> yum/apt-get .
> Similarly i want to uninstall mysqld etc also.
> 
> Any pointers on how to uninstall standard servers.Do i need to do rpm -e or
> something similar.

up2date does not have a remove option, you need to login to rhn and 
remove /manage the machine from there.

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Re: [ilugd] How to uninstall httpd

[Sahil Dave]

i don't think RHEL has YUM... or apt-get!!


On 3/28/07, abhishek jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi friends,
> I have a default install of httpd on RHEL 4.x AS and i want to uninstall
> it(will be installing with modperl), i need to that without the use of
> yum/apt-get .
> Similarly i want to uninstall mysqld etc also.
>
> Any pointers on how to uninstall standard servers.Do i need to do rpm -e
> or
> something similar.
>
> Thanks,
> Abhishek jain
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Re: [ilugd] Free Vs enterprise OSS releases

[Harish Pillay]

> What i want to know here is, as a practice should one go ahead and
> install (on top of RHEL/SUSE) such updates/packages from Fedora or
> Opensuse, whenever they become available? if yes what could happen to
> the server when you apply service packs which lately become available
> from Redhat or Novell, service pack installation would't comlain & run
> with no trouble? if no - then what are the reasons?

You should keep your commercially supported distribution to track what
is being made available via the support channels (RHN for example for
Red Hat) so that you can benefit from official support.

In general, you should not mix different packages just because something
is newly available.  You should be rest assured that *any* security issue
will be addressed for the officially shipped packages.  Hence, unless you
are looking at some specific feature/function that is missing in the shipped
package AND are prepared to support it yourself, then go ahead.

If I am running these systems in an enterprise, I would stay off straying
from the supported environment unless I have a really good reason.

HTH.

Harish

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[ilugd] How to uninstall httpd

[abhishek jain]

Hi friends,
I have a default install of httpd on RHEL 4.x AS and i want to uninstall
it(will be installing with modperl), i need to that without the use of
yum/apt-get .
Similarly i want to uninstall mysqld etc also.

Any pointers on how to uninstall standard servers.Do i need to do rpm -e or
something similar.

Thanks,
Abhishek jain
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Re: [ilugd] /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny do not work

[abhishek jain]

On 3/28/07, honey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> try
>
> telnet  
> this will work...


Do i need to include the : colon anywhere and can comma seperated IPs will
be ok.
Will try tomorrow,
Thanks,
Abhishek jain

On 3/28/07, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
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> > abhishek jain wrote:
> > > Hi friends,
> > > I have in one of mine companys servers installed RHEL 4.x AS and
> > firewall is
> > > disabled, i have a few questions:
> >
> > In case it is of passing interest the URLs below might help:
> >
> > http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/
> > kbase.redhat.com
> >
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[ilugd] Free Vs enterprise OSS releases

[Yashpal Nagar]

Hi there,

As we know Redhat and SUSE few major vendors for enterprise class Linux 
distribution do also have their free/community driven distributions like 
Fedors & Opensuse. Now lately we have noticed that few softwares 
releases become rapidly available from Fedora, Opensuse rather than 
principle vendor SUSE or Redhat itself in their enterprise class OS.

e.g apache 2.2.4 rpms are available from Opensuse but not yet available 
from Novell for their enterprise class of OS. 
http://software.opensuse.org/download/Apache/SUSE_Linux_10.0/x86_64/

What i want to know here is, as a practice should one go ahead and 
install (on top of RHEL/SUSE) such updates/packages from Fedora or 
Opensuse, whenever they become available? if yes what could happen to 
the server when you apply service packs which lately become available 
from Redhat or Novell, service pack installation would't comlain & run 
with no trouble? if no - then what are the reasons?

Regards
Yashpal


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[ilugd] [OT??] Information please on /. article

[Sudev Barar]

Can any one confirm this http://it.slashdot.org/it/07/03/27/038227.shtml ?
Any one who has had opportunity of running vista what sort of timing /
slowdown you may have encountered?
TIA

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[ilugd] Info :- Open Source Router.

[bimal pandit]

Dear All,

recently, I found a great Linux Based Router and hence thought to share it with 
all of you...

just look "Vyatta: Open-Source Networking"  at http://www.vyatta.com/

regards,

Bimal Pandit
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Re: [ilugd] /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny do not work

[honey]

try

telnet  
this will work...

On 3/28/07, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > I have in one of mine companys servers installed RHEL 4.x AS and
> firewall is
> > disabled, i have a few questions:
>
> In case it is of passing interest the URLs below might help:
>
> http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/
> kbase.redhat.com
>
>
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Re: [ilugd] Microsoft's Linux Pitch

[Gaurav Mishra]

On 3/27/07, rahul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> this is indeed interesting :-)
>
> can we create a counter presentation cum story? any volunteers to help LFY
> collect facts based figures that tell the other side of the story? plus,
> also those who can counter the FUD with comments that other customers will
> value?

Yes we can no doubt , But is it needed, This presentation clearly
defines they are afraid , and Linux or any other technology can always
win by giving better technology.

>
> regards
> rahul, lfy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
> Of Akshay Lamba
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 4:19 PM
> To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list
> Subject: [ilugd] Microsoft's Linux Pitch
>
>
> Not to restart a debate or bring up old issues: Here's MS pitch on the
> whole OSS/Linux bit and then happily leading a OSS conference!
> http://www.sublimemedia.com/usCSI/uscsi_web.swf
> 
>
> PS: I don't know the validity or authenticity of the content.
>
> A
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[ilugd] kolab with fetchmail and postfix

[Sumit Kumar]

Dear friends
I installed kolab2 and its working fine. I have to
catchall mail in one account for this i have configured fetchmail in
multidrop then it is giving error like this
 fetchmail: SMTP< 250 Ok
fetchmail: SMTP> RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local
recipient table
fetchmail: SMTP error: 550 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Recipient address rejected:
User unknown in local recipient table
fetchmail: SMTP listener doesn't like recipient address [EMAIL PROTECTED]'

and mail goes to postmaster

thnx in advance

with regs
sumit
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Re: [ilugd] /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny do not work

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

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abhishek jain wrote:
> Hi friends,
> I have in one of mine companys servers installed RHEL 4.x AS and firewall is
> disabled, i have a few questions:

In case it is of passing interest the URLs below might help:

http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/
kbase.redhat.com


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[ilugd] /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny do not work

[abhishek jain]

Hi friends,
I have in one of mine companys servers installed RHEL 4.x AS and firewall is
disabled, i have a few questions:
1. How to enable firewall which allow access to ssh, http,ftp
2. /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny do not work i mean i write in
hosts.allow 1 IP
telnet:
and then in hosts.deny
telnet: ALL

but even then after saving the files i can access telnet from any machine.
Any pointers will be helpful.
Thanks,
Abhishek jain
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Re: [ilugd] problem in fetchmail + postfix with multidrop

[rajnish kumar]

fetchmail-6.2.5-7 with fc4
thnx for reply

On 3/28/07, Shakthi Kannan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On 3/28/07, rajnish kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > when i am configured fetchmail
>
> Which version? Which distro?
>
> > in fetchmailrc with   *
> > option it's working fine but it gives error in multidrop ( catchall).
>
> This bug was fixed in fetchmail-6.3.5.
>
> SK
>
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> http://www.shakthimaan.com
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Re: [ilugd] problem in fetchmail + postfix with multidrop

[Shakthi Kannan]

Hi,

On 3/28/07, rajnish kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> when i am configured fetchmail

Which version? Which distro?

> in fetchmailrc with   *
> option it's working fine but it gives error in multidrop ( catchall).

This bug was fixed in fetchmail-6.3.5.

SK

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[ilugd] problem in fetchmail + postfix with multidrop

[rajnish kumar]

Dear experts
  I have installed postfix it's working fine,  My pop is
some where else  when i am configured fetchmail in fetchmailrc with   *
option it's working fine but it gives error in multidrop ( catchall).

configuration without multidrop works fine
# defaults
#  no dns
# envelope Delivered-To:
# set postmaster "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
# poll 202.138.97.121
# localdomains mydomain.com
# proto pop3
# user "raj"
# pass ""
# to *
 #fetchall
# keep # For testing, comment out and use fetchall for live

configuration for multidrop gives error
# defaults
#  no dns
# envelope Delivered-To:
# set postmaster "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
# poll 202.138.97.121
# localdomains mydomain.com
# proto pop3
# user "raj"
# pass ""
# to "raj"
 #fetchall
# keep # For testing, comment out and use fetchall for live

but when i  configured fetchmail with multidrop ( catchall) option it's
gives error like this in postfix.log

  to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>, relay=none,
delay=1, status=bounced (Host or domain name not found. Name service error
for name=localhost.domain.com  type=A: Host
not found)

plz advice
with regds
rajnish
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[ilugd] Next ILUG-Delhi meeting at 2pm, Sun., April 1st, JNU BIC

[gora]

Hello,
  Here is the long-awaited announcement for the next ILUG-Delhi
meeting. It will be held at 2pm, Sun., April 1st, at the JNU
Bio-Informatics Centre.

  The agenda for the meeting is:
  o Progress on e-zine: Atul Jha
  o Technical talk: Soumyadeep Nandi
Data mining with Open Source tools: Application to Biological
Sequence Classification.
  o Planning for Freedel 2007. See the post from Raj for some details
on what people have in mind.
Given that it is already Wed., and that I will be travelling till
tomorrow, I am not sure that it will be possible to arrange for
car-pooling. What we can probably do is to arrange a vehicle for
transport to/from Connaught Place to the venue. Please email me
*off-list* if you are interested in this, so that I can gauge the
amount of interest.

Regards,
Gora


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