[ilugd] Extension of deadline for Sarai FLOSS fellowship programme
Hello all, This is to inform you that due to some internal issues with our mail server, we are extending the deadline for submissions to the RGF-Sarai FLOSS fellowship programme. Your proposal should reach us latest by midnight IST, Sun., 1st July. Also, if you sent in a reply within the last few days, and do not get an acknowledgment by this evening, please forward your proposal again. As always, any queries with regards to the fellowship programme may be addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Below is a copy of the original announcement. Regards, Gora -- Call for proposals: RGF-Sarai, CSDS, short-term FLOSS fellowships 1 Introduction The Sarai programme of the Centre for the Study of Developing Societies, Delhi (http://www.sarai. net) is pleased to announce fellowships for projects related to Free/Libre and Open Source Software (FLOSS) activities. This year, we have partnered with the Rajiv Gandhi Foundation (RGF) who are providing support for work in the specific area of computing, and localisation in five Indian languages, namely, Assamese, Hindi, Kashmiri, Oriya, and Urdu. We also invite proposals from projects in other FLOSS areas, especially ones that are relevant to educational, social, and community needs. Any project that meets the criteria given below is eligible for the fellowships, but we are particularly interested in: o Indian language computing, including work on fonts, rendering, locales, input methods, spell-checking, etc., as well as in advanced technologies like OCR, handwriting recognition, and speech-to-text. o Localisation into Indian languages of user interfaces, and translation of help documents for FLOSS applications. o In the interest of sustained development, we would like to see the enhancement of, and extensions for projects funded as part of past Sarai FLOSS fellowships. In particular, we draw attention to NewsRack (http://newsrack.in), Hindawi (http://www.indicybers.com), and ApnaOpus (http://apnaopus.var.cc). o Documentation for users of FLOSS tools, particularly in the area of Indian language computing. The production of video tutorials would be welcome. o Development of graphics, multimedia, and publishing tools. This would include applications for audio/video editing, animation, and desktop publishing. Enhancement of existing FLOSS tools is especially encouraged. o Putting together, distributing, and supporting a complete Indian language distribution, using FLOSS operating systems, and tools. o Collaboration software, and groupware solutions. o Writing Linux device drivers, and front-ends for common hardware, such as wireless cards, graphics cards, scanners, and printers. The other significant difference from past practice is that we will be asking for more of a collaborative approach from the fellows, both among one another, and with people at Sarai. The collaboration need not be in the actual development, but can consist of an ongoing conversation about one's work, its direction, and current status. While this has been an implicit expectation in the past, this time we are making the requirement explicit. The exact details of these will be worked out with the selected fellows, but will include things like discussions over IRC, email, and postings on the Sarai Project Resource Centre (PRC) mailing list. Fellows will also be asked to prepare a timeline for the projects, with intermediate milestones, and will be expected to adhere to them. 1 2 Applying for the fellowships We invite students, developers, researchers, and practitioners interested in the FLOSS arena to apply for the fellowships. While there is no prescribed format for the applications, we expect them to be in sufficient detail for a reviewer to sensibly evaluate them. Attention to details, such as a plan of work that addresses what is possible to accomplish within the limited project period, a projection of how the work might be continued after that, and a discussion of the possible impact of the project, is strongly recommended. In particular, we will look favourably on projects aimed at eventual deployment, rather than development per se. Please mail your application, along with a resume, to [EMAIL PROTECTED] , with the subject line of RGF-Sarai FLOSS fellowships. As this information is intended to be public, also subscribe to the PRC mailing list at https://mail.sarai.net/mailman/listinfo/prc, and post a copy there, failing which your final proposal will be forwarded there by one of us. Enquiries are invited at [EMAIL PROTECTED] , and on the PRC list, including questions on how to frame proposals. The last date of submission is midnight IST on
[ilugd] The Perfect Replacement For MP3 (Stanley Thomas' blog)
Feedback, praise, brickbats to: Stanley Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED], -- Forwarded message -- http://perfector.wordpress.com/ The Perfect Replacement For MP3 Digital music is probably the only kind of music everybody is listening to these days. The reason being that its smaller in size and thus makes it easy to share and store. Imagine downloading a 4 minute track thats approximately 40 Mb in size in a place where access to the internet is terrible and costs a bomb (thats usually the case in most places in the world). Thankfully, compression algorithms exists that can compress the same audio track to one-tenth its size, thus we do not have to imagine the above. Few weeks back I downloaded 2 albums, My Dying Bride - A Line Of Deathless Kings and Slayer - Christ Illusion. The Slayer album was ripped at a very low bitrate and was not sounding too good. The album contained 14 tracks and obviously it was ripped at a lower bitrate to reduce its size. Many thanks to all the people who shared the album with me, but it was just not to my liking. There was no quality and I was furious because it took me a long time to download the album as not many people were sharing it. Boy, what a waste of time and a killer of expectation. Well thats what made me write this. Mp3 is an audio compression format that has taken the world by a storm. Mp3 is almost a synonym for music nowadays as Google is for search. Now, here comes the problem.. MP3 was good at one point in time, but not anymore. What's better? OGG VORBIS. AAC, Lame, MP3Pro neither of 'em match up to Ogg Vorbis' standards. Don't take my word for it, you can do simple tests to prove it. Take your favorite audio cd, select a track that you have heard a million times and don't mind listening to a hundred more and rip it to ogg vorbis as well as to mp3. Compare the mp3 and the ogg file to the track on the cd by listening, well now you know what I'm talking about. The ogg file is a much faithful reproduction of the cd than the mp3. An ogg file of 80kbps (bitrate) is equivalent to an mp3 encoded at 128kbps. Hey, there is still one more issue called size. Ofcourse here again the ogg file beats the mp3 hollow. For the same size one can achieve a higher bitrate with ogg vorbis than with mp3. The best part ogg vorbis by default encodes in variable bitrate (which deliveres better quality than constant bitrate). Isn't this a great piece of information for any music lover? There are a more advantages in using ogg. Ogg is patent-free. Ok, we are just not bothered about patents here in India, but in this case we have to be because a lot of music that we listen to everyday is coming from outside India. Musicians who sell their songs in mp3 have to pay royalties. They could just save a bit more of cash by selling all over the world their songs in ogg vorbis. Not just does it benefit them but it also benefits listeners and fans. But do you think that they are seriously bothered? Music is become a business rather than an art form. Nobody cares about the quality of music their fans are listening to as long as they are minting big bucks and are being voted for the Grammy's. Portable players like ipod's also have to pay royalties but still are unwilling to support patent-free formats like ogg. Why? Because they too are doing well in selling their products. Neither the musician nor the manufacturers of players are bothered about the listener. As a guy on one of the mailing lists puts it if only all the music in china was ripped into ogg vorbis, surely then a lot of players would be supporting it. There are a few portable players available that support ogg vorbis. Many of the game developers are using ogg vorbis and are very happy with the quality of sound and even happier because they are getting away without paying licenses. e.g. Doom 3. Ogg is only the container just like avi. It can contain several data streams at once, like video and the corresponding audio. Vorbis is the name of an open source audio compression format. There exists Theora for video compression and Speex for speech. I haven't really tried these though. If you notice I haven't mentioned anything about Windows Media Audio (wma) and Real Audio (ra), thats because I find these to be very cheap proprietary formats. I would never recommend these to any music lover. The best part about using ogg is that its open source. A lot of intense development will continue to take place to ensure that ogg vorbis remains the best. Its going to be literally impossible for any other proprietary format to beat ogg in the future. Almost all linux distributions play ogg out of the box. Things are looking bright for ogg, especially with all the Dell machines being sold with Ubuntu, we can expect a lot of vorbis encoded music from the US. Happy listening! June 25th, 2007 Categories: General . Author: stan . Comments: No Comments -- FN: Frederick Noronha Phone 0091-832-2409490 http://wikiwikiweb.de/MyContacts
Re: [ilugd] Extension of deadline for Sarai FLOSS fellowship programme
gora, please be frank with me,. what's the problem? people are not resopnding, or you are getting junk or poor proposals, or both. maybe i could help, but don't promise n ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Microsoft Claims Vista Is More Secure Than Linux
During Windows Vista's first six months on the market, Microsoft released four security updates to address 12 total vulnerabilities. In the National Vulnerability Database, the National Institute of Standards (NIST) rated 10 0f these issues as high severity, one as medium, and one as low. Jones compared Vista to open-source operating systems. Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4, the most downloaded GNU/Linux distribution, saw 129 publicly disclosed bugs during its first six months of availability. Forty of them were ranked high severity. Red Hat fixed a total of 281 vulnerabilities in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4 Workstation in the first six months, 86 of which were rated high severity. On the basis of these numbers, Jones concluded that Vista was more secure than its open-source counterpart. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nf/20070622/bs_nf/53263 - Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Microsoft Claims Vista Is More Secure Than Linux
Hi, On 6/25/07, Lokesh Bhog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: During Windows Vista's first six months on the market, Microsoft released four security updates to address 12 total vulnerabilities ... out of how many undisclosed vulnerabilities? SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] Open position for Technical Support Engineer - Jboss - Pune
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Re: [ilugd] The Perfect Replacement For MP3 (Stanley Thomas' blog)
ogg rocks! been waiting and watching since quite a few years, but alas, i don't know of a single personal or stereo or other oggplayer hardware available in india. surprisingly though, the new breed of dvd-players support divx and that's very cool. but no ogg. anybody knows any ogg player here? niyam ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] The Perfect Replacement For MP3 (Stanley Thomas' blog)
find a whole lot of software that uses libvorbis or similar technology.. - http://www.vorbis.com/software/ On 25/06/07, Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ogg rocks! been waiting and watching since quite a few years, but alas, i don't know of a single personal or stereo or other oggplayer hardware available in india. surprisingly though, the new breed of dvd-players support divx and that's very cool. but no ogg. anybody knows any ogg player here? niyam ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- (^_^) ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Microsoft Claims Vista Is More Secure Than Linux
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lokesh Bhog Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 5:44 PM To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list Subject: [ilugd] Microsoft Claims Vista Is More Secure Than Linux http://news.yahoo.com/s/nf/20070622/bs_nf/53263 So what can we conclude from this report ? I have been using Windows Vista Ultimate for the last 4 months and I send my mails from Outlook. I have never faced any issues. I do agree that Linux is an excellent OS but it holds good only for servers. I have never come across any mission critical applications running on Windows servers. Its mostly UNIX or Linux. I have even seen some servers running on Novell NetWare. Microsoft has already captured the desktop market way back in 1995 when Windows 95 was released. Regards, Surjo. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Microsoft Claims Vista Is More Secure Than Linux
On 25-Jun-07, at 8:56 PM, Surjo Das wrote: So what can we conclude from this report ? I have been using Windows Vista Ultimate for the last 4 months and I send my mails from Outlook. I have never faced any issues. I do agree that Linux is an excellent OS but it holds good only for servers. I have never come across any mission critical applications running on Windows servers. Its mostly UNIX or Linux. I have even seen some servers running on Novell NetWare. Microsoft has already captured the desktop market way back in 1995 when Windows 95 was released. so you recomend we all shift to vista? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Listing pages in directory as links
Javascripts are client side, and you can't read dir at server from client
side. You need server side scripting/cgi-programming. Lets look at php
solution.
You can use two php functions: $fileHandler =
open_dir(directory_path/absolute/or/relative)
and read_dir($fileHandler)
and save those in the associative array : $result = array();
the array would be :
listing_name = 0/1 (Directory=0, file=1)
and process the Hypertext docs with those as links
foreach ($result as $key = $val)
{
echo you Dir/file name here;
}
you can use CSS to make the listing beautiful.
:)
and javascript to add some interactivity. its upto you. :)
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Re: [ilugd] Extension of deadline for Sarai FLOSS fellowship programme
On Mon, 2007-06-25 at 17:11 +0530, Linux Lingam wrote: gora, please be frank with me,. what's the problem? people are not resopnding, or you are getting junk or poor proposals, or both. Um, no. If we were getting poor proposals, we just would not give out that many fellowships. Like I said, this was due to some problems with our mail server over this weekend, and so as give people time to revise their proposals based on comments I am sending out. Regards, Gora ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] The Perfect Replacement For MP3 (Stanley Thomas' blog)
anybody knows any ogg player here? niyam Hi, I wonder whether this would qualify as a hardware player -- www.geexbox.org Depends on where you run it, i guess! Shiv - Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] conflict between ndiswrapper and Nvidia GL drivers
ndiswrapper -l says that driver is present and device is working. knetworkmanager is unable to connect. If someone has faced and overcome this problem. Please give pointers. Hi, What wireless card does your laptop have? IMHO, you shouldnt be requiring to use ndiswrapper if it is Atheros, Intel Prowirelss 2200, 3945 etc. AFAIK its only the wretched Broadcom guys who havent opened up their code. In any case, I have a Toshiba Satellite A100 with an Intel 3945ABG card and it works just fine with a native driver and not Ndiswrapper. And yes, I too have Beryl running fine on an ATI Radeon card. OS --- Ubuntu 7.04. Regards, Shiv - Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Microsoft Claims Vista Is More Secure Than Linux
On 6/25/07, Lokesh Bhog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the basis of these numbers, Jones concluded that Vista was more secure than its open-source counterpart. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nf/20070622/bs_nf/53263 Besides the point made by Shakti Kannan, how many applications does Vista have and how many does RHEL have? I guess we should come out with a small linux distro consisting of just a handful of utilities and show that it's the most secure OS out there. I don't think the article cares about functionality. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] The Perfect Replacement For MP3 (Stanley Thomas' blog)
Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: but alas, i don't know of a single personal or stereo or other oggplayer hardware available in india. I did some shopping in Nehru Place recently. Some of the creative muvos have vorbis. There are a couple of others. But yeah, most players don't support ogg. They support stuff like wma or aac, but ogg is a lower priority for some reason I haven't figure out. PJ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Description of Hindi phonetic rules for aspell
Hi, I have finally found the time to write up various aspects of work on improving the performance for aspell for Hindi, the idea being that this would serve as a basis for doing the same in other Indian languages. Here are pointers to some such links: 1. http://buckycat.wordpress.com/2007/04/28/sorcery-in-indian-language-spelling/ A blog entry on Indian-language spell-checking, including a table demonstrating that with the addition of phonetic rules, aspell performance in Hindi is at least on par with that for English. 2. http://cmwiki.sarai.net/index.php/SpellCheck Some notes on open-source spell-checkers, focussing in particular on how aspell works 3. http://cmwiki.sarai.net/index.php/PhoneticDetails A writeup on details of how the phonetic rules for Hindi work, and notes on how to adapt these for other Indian languages. A link to the Hindi phonetic rules files is also provided, and I will soon roll this into the official aspell Hindi dictionary. I would like volunteers to help out in the following tasks: (a) Review the phonetic rules described in 3, and come up with more. (b) Adapt these rules to other languages. I will probably do Oriya, and work in Punjabi is under way. Kartik has volunteered to do Gujarati, Hari Prasad Kannada, and we have a Sarai FLOSS fellowship proposal to do Marathi (among other things). (c) Vastly improve existing spell-checking dictionaries, as these rules are not of much use without an adequate dictionary. One way is to have someone type in dictionaries that are out of copyright. (d) Help out in adding more aspell rules. Another potential area of great improvement is by adding affix (prefix/suffix) rules. This is best done along with preparing a new dictionary. (e) I will soon put up project plans for various aspell work, including plugins for Scribus, OpenOffice, and the Mozilla suite, bindings in other programming languages, and a stand-alone GUI front-end to aspell. Programmers, please help out here. Regards, Gora ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Microsoft Claims Vista Is More Secure Than Linux
-Original Message- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kenneth Gonsalves Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 9:01 PM To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list Subject: Re: [ilugd] Microsoft Claims Vista Is More Secure Than Linux so you recommend we all shift to vista? I never recommended that we all shift to Vista. It is a matter of choice of every individual user. I am using Vista at home because my wife is familiar only with Windows. I didn't try to convert her to Linux as she has never heard of it. She heard it for the first time when I mentioned it to her. I only reiterated the market reality. Microsoft has the desktop market already. If you happen to visit any middle class home who have a PC for their entertainment purpose, invariably you will find it loaded with Windows in at least 95% of the cases. On the server side, there are no doubts that Linux is a very strong player. Regards, Surjo. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Microsoft Claims Vista Is More Secure Than Linux
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Surjo Das wrote: It is a matter of choice of every individual user. Agreed! :) I am using Vista at home because my wife is familiar only with Windows. I didn't try to convert her to Linux as she has never heard of it. She heard it for the first time when I mentioned it to her. IMHO, there is never an option of conversion, there is either adoption or migration. And, people do not use GNU/Linux mainly because [1] They are not aware [2] They have not got the opportunity to try it [3] They need support to use it, especially when they encounter some problem. If you are a GNU/Linux user, you can very well help your wife in migration from Windows to GNU/Linux, but that is not going to happen in a day or a week, may be a month or two. I only reiterated the market reality. Microsoft has the desktop market already. If you happen to visit any middle class home who have a PC for their entertainment purpose, invariably you will find it loaded with Windows in at least 95% of the cases. On the server side, there are no doubts that Linux is a very strong player. This is because everything comes preloaded and people do not care much to find that there is an alternative. Also, they are not aware that they are actually paying for the Windows they get preloaded or the local assembler is using Pirated copies. I won't accept that people think GNU/Linux is not a match for Windows; I have installed and helped in migration of lot of my friends and they are now happy GNU/Linux users. Thanks to people like Dell, we have started to get the right kind of opportunity to go preloaded. Its we, GNU/Linux users have to take some responsibility in at least creating an awareness amongst our friends and relatives circle. - -- With Regards - --- Parthan aka Technofreak [weblog] http://technofreakatchennai.wordpress.com [flickr] http://flickr.com/photos/techno_freak [irc] teKnofreak @ irc.freenode.net (#linux-india) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGgINhk4vYYS/wECYRAmb/AJ0dUhIIWrHC3aS6RzD93Sv8eV5/nwCfTBwE ObblgD2VFBKTsB+RIu7eIgc= =RjRh -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Microsoft Claims Vista Is More Secure Than Linux
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Parthan S R Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 8:42 AM To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list Subject: Re: [ilugd] Microsoft Claims Vista Is More Secure Than Linux I won't accept that people think GNU/Linux is not a match for Windows; I have installed and helped in migration of lot of my friends and they are now happy GNU/Linux users. Thanks to people like Dell, we have started to get the right kind of opportunity to go preloaded. Its we, GNU/Linux users have to take some responsibility in at least creating an awareness amongst our friends and relatives circle. The reason why Dell is giving a choice of pre-loaded Linux is because they don't want to pay Microsoft for a Windows licence. Moreover, they are doing this to bring down the price of their entry level PC's. When Microsoft releases any new version of their desktop OS, they don't need to do anything to convince people to migrate to it. They phase out the earlier versions and make their current versions as the only available choice. PC manufacturers end up with no choice. Do Windows users try to convince their friends or relatives to use XP or Vista ? They don't because there is no need to. It's already available on their PC's :) More than the Linux community, I feel it's up to companies like Red Hat and Novell to promote the Linux desktop. And there too, they are targeting corporate and not the home segment. IMHO, its up to Red Hat and Novell to promote Linux on the desktop and not the LUGs. Regards, Surjo. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] The Perfect Replacement For MP3 (Stanley Thomas' blog)
On 6/25/07, Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anybody knows any ogg player here? LG launched a competition against IPOD which was capable of playing ogg files, named mfjm53 (not very sure), google for it niyam ___ -- Linux User #348873 ILUGD Commitee Member, GZLUG , DGLUG Moderator B.Tech 4th Year Computer Science , RKGIT , Ghaziabad http://rockybhai.blogspot.com When i can run , i will run , When i can walk , i will walk, When i can crawl , i will crawl. But i will not stop moving forward ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Microsoft Claims Vista Is More Secure Than Linux
On 6/26/07, Surjo Das [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never recommended that we all shift to Vista. It is a matter of choice of every individual user. I am using Vista at home because my wife is familiar only with Windows. I didn't try to convert her to Linux as she has never heard of it. She heard it for the first time when I mentioned it to her. My parents (age 60 and above) never heard of Linux, but they are using it without any problem. What problem they are facing is typing and handling mouse. So, the real challenge is to provide easy input methods/devices. I am currently trying Dasher for them. Also, if you are familiar with Windows you can use Linux, but if you are addicted to Windows then you cannot. I only reiterated the market reality. Microsoft has the desktop market already. If you happen to visit any middle class home who have a PC for their entertainment purpose, invariably you will find it loaded with Windows in at least 95% of the cases. It is just a matter of time. Time changes everything. Regards and best wishes, -- Rahul Upakare ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
