Re: [ilugd] free alternatives to blackberry
Kevin Muller wrote: I am about to buy a blackberry for my hutch postpaid connection. I was just wondering if there are free alternatives to blackberry.. i was told I've been using a Nokia E61 with a remote IMAP server for email when on the road, and it does work fine. Since its IMAP you get an identical folder view from pretty much anywhere. Alternatively, if you still want to go down the blackberry route, the E61 has a module you can download off the nokia website that lets you setup pushemail on the phone. - KB -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] free alternatives to blackberry
Kevin Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: die !), and additionnaly that model has no camera (I always dreamt about being able to take photos with my mobile !), and no keyboard (i mean, there is only a virtual keyboard). Any other suggestions ? Maybe the Motorola A1200? (http://www.mobile-review.com/review/motorola-a1200-en.shtml) It's not too great, and not too open (though much of the OS is GPLed). Depends what your needs are. PJ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] free alternatives to blackberry
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08-08-07 10:35 AM, Kevin Muller wrote: I am about to buy a blackberry for my hutch postpaid connection. I was just wondering if there are free alternatives to blackberry.. i was told that some companies have made similar phones working with linux. Any references, links ? And will it work with Hutch (or even Airtel.. i would'nt hesitate to switch if necessary !) ? I have been trying to avoid BBerry phones for a long time now. I used the Treo 650 with chattermail for a long long time. You can use any phone that supports IMAP-IDLE, that is the best alternative in my opinion and mostly FREE. Its pretty much an instant push email solution. Your email provider may already support the IDLE command, most dont even know if they do or not. I switched to a Nokia e90 communicator recently and unfortunately while it supports IMAP-IDLE, its not too good doing it. So i had to bite the bullet and get the blackberry connect software on my e90. Which i think is still better than getting a blackberry phone. cheers. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGuYkzbR7mO5apBYARAnnDAJ9lqu9uEpL7mLlWNZO6OTXtOJbgFwCZASps k+/tOynReyfqMKwETXyExU8= =5tnr -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] free alternatives to blackberry
hi Ankur, Ankur Rohatgi wrote: I switched to a Nokia e90 communicator recently and unfortunately while it supports IMAP-IDLE, its not too good doing it. So i had to bite the bullet and get the blackberry connect software on my e90. Which i think is still better than getting a blackberry phone. isnt network access cost these days low enough to not need to really worry about IMAP-IDLE really ? - KB -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] free alternatives to blackberry
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08-08-07 3:00 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote: isnt network access cost these days low enough to not need to really worry about IMAP-IDLE really ? Hi Karan, I agree, especially with Airtel offering ONLY 1 unmetered GPRS plan. The e90 however had problems holding on the connection and very often it would lose the connection to the remote inbox. Also there is a major limitation (which is also in the BBconnect), the sent email remains in the phone, there is no way to send it to your sent IMAP folder. Something that was done very well in chattermail. cheers. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGuZOHbR7mO5apBYARAmQwAKCzBAmWMcNCG7KK53eH+ZafmesmPQCeKxT6 tIFFBZhniGCaOhlN9UlB+zA= =+BEy -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [X posted Possibly OT] Thin clients
On 06-Aug-07, at 7:40 PM, Sudev Barar wrote: That said I find that the device has voltage range of 110~250 so in over a year not a single power supply is blown, this is without any UPS etc. neither is any moving part involved so you can say bye bye to AMC. Second form factor. Out of the way mounting right on back of LCD screen. Third no fan means very quite working. Lastly power consumption is only 8watt. Pays for itself by reducing electricity bills and lower heat output. just shows that paying more at the start often means paying less in the long run - which is a good slogan for spending on migration from proprietary to foss I expect if some one really produced volumes the price line can drop lower but I am happy enough at this. i wonder if we cant poke someone in India to manufacture things like this? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] free alternatives to blackberry
On 08-Aug-07, at 11:12 AM, Kevin Muller wrote: Thanks. I already knew that one, but the thing is that the product is not yet commercialised (I need something urgently, my mobile is about to die !), and additionnaly that model has no camera (I always dreamt about being able to take photos with my mobile !), and no keyboard (i mean, there is only a virtual keyboard). there si a motorola that runs linux - from 12k upwards, check out raj mathur's post in the archives about a month back -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] GPLv3 project using Apache v2 library
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I wanted to know, is it OK to use a library licensed under Apache version 2 license, in a GNU GPL version 3 project, as mentioned in [1], that Apache License, version 2.0 is compatible with GNU GPL. The library is going to be statically linked. References [1] - http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html Thanks in advance Ashish Shukla - -- Ashish Shukla Wah Java !! आशीष शुक्ल weblog: http://wahjava.wordpress.com/ ,= ,-_-. =. | A: Yes.| ((_/)o o(\_)) | Q: Are you sure? | `-'(. .)`-' | A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. | \_/ | Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGuYabHy+EEHYuXnQRAq1oAKDRZuPabCEXUhcpLaSjGL4rFJhSMQCfeG8c XcauDGc8y6SkaXXY3AyZr9s= =nA4V -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data
On 07-Aug-07, at 2:10 PM, Linux Lingam wrote: ah see, this is it. a) tut! tut! kenneth, the event is no longer called freedel. it is called freed.in. freed.in is not a 'north event' it is a nation-wide event, with participation from across india and even beyond our borders. frankly i would be happier if it remained a 'north event'. The strength of the foss movement in India is in the regions. There is never going to be an all-india foss movement/event. I feel that in each region one or more regional events come up focussing on that region and getting active participation from that region. The level of the event will be lower as there will be more newbies and freshers. What is happening now is that all events are 'all india' events and we find the same people in each - often making the same speech. The biggest crowd of speakers in foss.in, and the other three events having subsets of this crowd. (note, this is my personal opinion and not that of nrc-foss). So I personally would be happier if freedel remained freedel. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data
--- Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: frankly i would be happier if it remained a 'north event'. The strength of the foss movement in India is in the regions. There is never going to be an all-india foss movement/event. I feel that in each region one or more regional events come up focussing on that region and getting active participation from that region. The level of the event will be lower as there will be more newbies and freshers. What is happening now is that all events are 'all india' events and we find the same people in each - often making the same speech. The biggest crowd of speakers in foss.in, and the other three events having subsets of this crowd. (note, this is my personal opinion and not that of nrc-foss). So I personally would be happier if freedel remained freedel. I agree with views expressed in the above article. However, the name freed.in conveys Freedom has been achieved - according to me. -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in ubunturos @ freenode Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Cloning a disk over network
On 7/18/07, Sudev Barar wrote: On 16/07/07, vivek khurana wrote: --- Anand Shankar wrote: Looking for a cool, snap to setup with defaults, fast to finish solution for cloning disks over network: Have a look at http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/ . Might solve our problem. Anand Did you try this? Some where else I read about netcat and dd being used. Do share your experience. -- Regards, Sudev Barar G4L helped us in solving most of the problems we were worried about. With the logistics constraint I could get 5 PCs at a time on the user desk. We achieved fantastic speeds of 20-40MB/s on a switched 10/100Mbps LAN. I could successfully finish installations in 45-75 min for an image size of abt 10GB. What was left was correcting the hostnames and admitting to Domain and this is a manual step at each location. anand ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Cloning a disk over network
Intentionally separated the mail for one more issue. We received the PCs in two lots, Batch-A plain vanilla FreeDOS on 160GB disks, so installing WinXP and Linux and ghosting it was simple. Batch-B same make and hardware, but with WinXP preinstalled. For Batch-B we have resized the Windows partition using qtparted and created further partitions for Linux. As for Linux, we created another image from the Linux partition of Batch-A and restored it to the appropirate partition in Batch-B. Obviously partition sizes of the two batches were similar but partition table layout was different as also the partition number of the swap partition. That was all done nicely by setting up GRUB again for Batch-B and redefining swap location post ghosting. Ghosting of Windows Partition in Batch-B was not possible as we would have lost the pre-installed licenses!!! So that will have to be done one by one - painful resizing of all Batch-B PCs and repeating the corrective process for Linux Partition and doing everything else for Windows partition as what we would have done for a new PC. I do'nt have any idea for handling this kind of customisation for a pre-installed Windows-XP PC. For Batch-B Linux partitions I have two questions: A. Is there any short way of cloning the partition table of a master, including resizing of Windows Partition? B. Fortunately Batch-B was identical to Batch-A hardware-wise, so ghosting linux partition was fine and achieved, but what if Batch-A and Batch-B were slightly different, say a different ethernet card or a different monitor / display card, if I ghost from Batch-A to Batch-B what all the problems can be?? Fortunately Batch-B size is only 10 PCs. anand ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] free alternatives to blackberry
On 8/8/07, PJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: die !), and additionnaly that model has no camera (I always dreamt about being able to take photos with my mobile !), and no keyboard (i mean, there is only a virtual keyboard). Any other suggestions ? Maybe the Motorola A1200? (http://www.mobile-review.com/review/motorola-a1200-en.shtml) It's not too great What are you saying.. At 12k it's the best Linux based phone readily available in India! , and not too open That unfortunately is true. I wonder if it violates the GPL. -- Anupam ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
