Re: [ilugd] Minutes of August ILUGD meet
Hi Folks... Firstly a big thanks to Gaurav Mishra for a job well done-- of writing down the minutes of meeting and sending to all--- thanxxx dude... 'preciate it!!! Also, about the OpenMoko discussion-- really appreciate what Deepank (NSIT engg student) have done-- he reformatted a Windows mobile phone-- and put Linux on it-- what's more, he even re-formatted the MicroSD card-- and put ext2fs on it-- interesting coz most mobile phones by default format to FAT filesystem. Even the gsm services run as a gsm-daemon-- which Deepank showed how to turn on or off like any other daemon... just too cool... I wish I had videotaped it. Cool also of Atul Chitnis, Kishore Bhargava, Mrs.Valsa Williams(intel), Dr Gora, Advocate (forget the name), Niyam Bhushan, Ajay, Kapil (Saphire) and the youngsters from various engg colleges who showed up and made the discussion a lively and interesting experience-- and helped a person like myself connect with the tech buzz that gets todays youth moving Also, it was great to spend a sunday talking tech and dreaming dreams of linux domination in the beautifully scenic and green environment of JNU-Delhi-- and also partially relived fun of watching juniors get ragged!!! Apart from Windows-Mobile phone running linux, I got to see and play also with a samsung mobile internet device running Vista which Valsa had brought- and which she plans to format and install linux on... Thanks folks... and also, my thanks again to all the folks whose names I couldnt mention but who helped make it a lively and learning oriented experience Nalin On 8/24/07, Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] (Viii) Niyam and Raj raised points of flash being evil and make content non-accessible to the people, Which Included Forget Einstein Children will not even become Frankenstein [snip] ah no! flash is not evil, just not a formal, open standard, does not allow searchable tagging, reusable content, and lots of other technical issues and issues that result from it being a non-OASIS or other standard. too much to list here, but you get the picture. Einstein Frankenstein was in a different context all together. how the approach to education and learning is becoming more obsessed with 'container' rather than 'content.' how the seductive idea that IF as a parent or teacher you could provide a full broadband connection on a multimedia-savvy hi-end pc; or a generation ago, a multimedia-CDROM encyclopedia; before that VHS tapes on education +learning, and tv broadcasts, before that radio-for-literacy-and-education; before that the printed-edition of the entire volume of the encyclopaedia, and so on... somehow you can give 'instant gratification literacy and education in a box'. now it flash-based education, and web-based learning. anyhows, please hold your discussions until we all meet for our special track on education and learning, as valsa and others proposed. :-) niyam ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] War of formats: India shows thumbs-down to Microsoft
Posted by Vinayak Hegde [EMAIL PROTECTED] at GII-India http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Infotech/Software/ India_throws_Microsoft_open_format_out_of_the_window/articleshow/2305780.cms (url has wrapped) NEW DELHI: India on Thursday gave Microsoft a thumbs-down in the war of standards for office documents. In a tense meeting at Delhi's Manak Bhawan, the 21-member technical committee decided that India will vote a 'no' against Microsoft's Open Office Extensible Mark Up Language (OOXML) standard at the International Standards Organisation (ISO) in Geneva on September 2. We unanimously agree on the disapproval of OOXML with comments. The same will be submitted to ISO, National Informatics Centre head and BIS technical committee chairperson Nita Verma said after a marathon meeting that lasted over six hours. There was no need for a voting as only Infosys Technologies and CSI supported Microsoft. The Open Document Format (ODF) alliance, enjoying widespread support from academia and corporates like Oracle, IBM, Red Hat, Sun Microsystems, Google, were in a jubilant mood having succeeded in stalling OOXML from being accepted as a standard in India. Microsoft said it respect's the government's decision. There were only three options `Yes', `No' and `Abstain' to be taken and we respect the government's decision, Microsoft's legal affairs head Rakesh Bakshi said. He, however, added that India's 'No' vote will become a 'Yes' if Microsoft is able to resolve all technical issues with OOXML before the ballot resolution committee of ISO. Prof DB Phatak of IIT Mumbai, who was instrumental in conducting the meetings, looked relieved after being flooded with calls from both camps over the week. Speaking to ET outside the BIS premises, the Microsoft camp complained that when ODF was being standardised by ISO, they did not oppose it and now the ODF camp refused to return the favour. ODF supporters said they would have no problems with OOXML if all the 200 technical issues were taken care of. Amongst hectic lobbying from both camps, the US government on Thursday said that it will abstain from voting. China has already voted a 'No' against Microsoft, while Malaysia, Denmark and Switzerland are supporting the software major. A global alliance of Sun-IBM, Oracle, Google, Red Hat have ganged up against Microsoft which is being supported by Apple, Quark, Accenture and Novell. On Indian soil, Infosys, HCL, Skelta, Sonata Software and Sify have come out in support of Microsoft. September 2 is the last date to submit the vote with comments to ISO. About 123 counties are participating in the vote. Votes from most are still to come. Canada, Czech Republic, Iran, Japan, Libya, Cuba, New Zealand, UK are likely to back the IBM-Sun's ODF Alliance. On the other hand, Belgium, Finland, Italy, Spain, Brazil, Singapore, Korea, France and Australia are likely to abstain from voting. -- Frederick Noronha Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] P: +91-832-2409490 M: +91-9970157402 Yahoo: fredericknoronha Skype: fredericknoronha GTalk: fredericknoronha 784, Sonarbhat, Near Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Wierd Issue with OpenProj Beryl on Ubuntu
Hi, I have Ubuntu 7.04 (with latest updates) installed on my laptop. Also have Beryl running as eye-candy on gnome-xgl. I have recently installed OpenProj (www.projity.com). When I launch OpenProj, I just get a blank gray window. When I log out and re-login with the session changed to Gnome only (no xgl) and then launch OpenProj, I am able to see the complete interface, interact and so on. Has anyone faced a similar prob with any other application? I have also noticed that I am not able to launch Google Earth when Gnome-xgl is the current session. It only comes up when i go back to plain ole gnome and metacity. With Warm Regards, Shivkumar linux user no: 450769 blog: outbackwifi.blogspot.com website: www.outbackwifi.com See you at 'Freed.in - freedom in technology software' - India's leading free and open source community event. 28- 29 September 2007, New Delhi. Entry free, on first come basis. Register at http://Freed.in; Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] ILUG-D activity in last 7 days
Fri 24-Aug-2007: ILUG-D activity in last 7 days: = New/recent events: 0 Total events: 69 = New Discussion forum postings: 0 Total postings: 951 = New News items: 0 Total News items: 238 = New Resources: 0 Total Resources: 0 = New comments: 0Total comments: 209 = New pictures: 0Total pictures: 220 = New members: 6 Total members: 6056 - 1. Amit Jain, User, , India 2. Atul Goel, User, , India 3. G rao, User, u.p, India 4. Pranith Kumar, Power User, , India 5. Venkatesh , User, Tamil Nadu, India 6. Vinay shukla, User, delhi, India = Send your suggestions, comments or feedback to admin_at_linux-delhi_dot_org -- This email is brought to you by http://www.linux-delhi.org/ - India Linux Users Group - Delhi. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Seeking Advice over OpenSource RCS
Hello Friends, Here is a problem statement: Some people with me were working on a project which has many subprojects. We people are distributed in seperate VPNs (doesn't matter much, just for information). For this our personal project, we were using a small part in company's CVSNT server and TortoiseCVS client (me only using Ubuntu and linux cvsnt client). Our project work is mainly based on Java, Perl and little PHP using Mysql and XML data. Now, we want to open that peoject to Internet, But there is only little options we can do. We need a Web Interface to CVSNT, where -people can browse the CVS repository tree, in browser (XHTML/CSS/Javascript), and also committers who have the access (usernme/password) can commit their work through the browser. The question arises, why not to give access the repository using cvs clients. Since we are going to make the cvsnt repository access available to public, we have to setup the webserver and services to another computer which will access the local folder where remote cvs repository will be mounted using samba. Now, We did some search over the existing solution, but we cannt find any cvs to web package which will allow files and folder's commit available through the web-browser. So now, people here are along with many sub-projects to achieve this. So now these are the challenges which we are trying to find: - What are the complexity in migrating cvsnt repository on windows server 2003 to cvs (linux). - What are the complexity in migrating CVSNT repository on WINDOWS 2003 server to svn wndows/linux. - Which Revision control system would be the best in this condition if we want to migrate, CVS (linux/windows), SVN, Bazaar (BZR) or any other. - Can cvsnt be extended by any method, existing or any idea which can be worked on (like creating an interface to do so if possible). - Can cvs be extended to such, on Linux? any workarounds - Does svn or bzr have such things. etc. Goal to achieve: - Web Interface which can let user authenticate, and then browse the cvs tree, and user can download the modules. - Committing modules (edited or new) to cvs repo. - uploading multiple files (optionally by taking input the directory path in browser file upload text input box, which would upload all the files in directory. Please show us some light. If development is needed in such direction, we can do it provided the idea to achieve seems good one. All members in group are PHP, Perl, Java programmers, so we cannt work on C++ (limitation). I am desperately looking forward for you people's suggestion, and better ideas. Thanks -- Ravi Shanker [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Google earth and open proj on XGL
Hi Shivkumar! When you run a XGL server, you cannot run Google Earth/ OpenProj or any other application that requires DRI to be loaded. Enabling Xgl disables DRI. (u can check for yourself typing glxinfo | grep direct).. ull see a message like XFree86-DRI missing on Display 0:0 So use the normal (non-XGL) session for these. Unless you have an ATI card, which is not supported by the FOSS Radeon driver, you can stick with AIGLX itself. If you have to use FGLRX for DRI, then you have no choice but to use Xgl for desktop effects and a non-xgl session for such apps. Regards, Karthik Ramgopal BITS Pilani ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Google earth and open proj on XGL
From: Karthik Ramgopal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unless you have an ATI card, which is not supported by the FOSS Radeon driver, you can stick with AIGLX itself. Hi Karthik, Thanks for that. I am indeed cursed with an ATI card! I guess I'll not get to rotate the desktop with Google-earth or OpenProj!! Time to get another laptop? With Warm Regards, Shivkumar linux user no: 450769 blog: outbackwifi.blogspot.com website: www.outbackwifi.com See you at 'Freed.in - freedom in technology software' - India's leading free and open source community event. 28- 29 September 2007, New Delhi. Entry free, on first come basis. Register at http://Freed.in; Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Wierd Issue with OpenProj Beryl on Ubuntu
Yes, these type of things, like blank application window, is quite common in running a little old Java Graphical apps, like Zend IDE, Frostwire etc, at my side. On Fri, 2007-08-24 at 05:04 -0700, Shiv wrote: Hi, I have Ubuntu 7.04 (with latest updates) installed on my laptop. Also have Beryl running as eye-candy on gnome-xgl. I have recently installed OpenProj (www.projity.com). When I launch OpenProj, I just get a blank gray window. When I log out and re-login with the session changed to Gnome only (no xgl) and then launch OpenProj, I am able to see the complete interface, interact and so on. Has anyone faced a similar prob with any other application? I have also noticed that I am not able to launch Google Earth when Gnome-xgl is the current session. It only comes up when i go back to plain ole gnome and metacity. With Warm Regards, Shivkumar linux user no: 450769 blog: outbackwifi.blogspot.com website: www.outbackwifi.com See you at 'Freed.in - freedom in technology software' - India's leading free and open source community event. 28- 29 September 2007, New Delhi. Entry free, on first come basis. Register at http://Freed.in; Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
