[ilugd] Installing Linux on an External Hard Disk

2007-09-22 Thread Puneet Lakhina
Hi,
I have recently bought a Dell Laptop which has come with vista preinstalled.
In my earlier post some people had recommended resizing the windows
partition, but there was also some indications that this is a little
complex.

I have thought of a solution on which I want to get some views. I have spare
USB External Hard disk lying around in my desk. So i thought maybe I can
install Linux on this and boot from this USB drive when I want to use Linux.

I would be really glad if anyone could point out the potential problems I
might face with this sort of setup.

Thanks.

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Re: [ilugd] [X-POSTED] First GPL violation filed in USA

2007-09-22 Thread Jasbir Khehra
On 9/22/07, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Friday 21 September 2007 12:15, Jasbir Khehra wrote:
  [snip]
  Therefore, is my assumption correct that to enforce GPL compilance ,
  the complainant has to be one of the following two individuals :
 a) Author of a GPLed software
 b) End user or consumer of a product which contains GPL software.
  And not any other third party ??

 As far as I know only the copyright holder of the software can file for
 a copyright violation.
Hmm , well so in that case we should have some proxy set up in India
who can on behalf of the Copyright holder  file a case, for example in
the case of Harald Welte against D-Link , Herald acted as a proxy on
behalf of the original copyright holders,
quoting from the english translation of the judgement of the case [1]
quote
With three contractual agreements designated Fiduciary Licensing
Agreements, the exclusive rights to copy,to distribute, and of public
display, as well as the right to allow a third party to undertake
modifications in the programs, were transferred for three software
programs to Plaintiff: Mr. Werner Almesberger, who is an
Austrian citizen, transferred these rights to Plaintiff for the
software msdosfs on December 12, 2004 (Annex K5)
/unqote
Purpose of my suggestion is for doing up all the legwork before hand
so that its easier to file for GPL violations when the need arises :)

  IANAL however, and before you decide to bump
 off Linus Torvalds and then merrily violate GPL on the Linux kernel,
Violate GPL , no way!!!  maybe the tenor of my question made u think so :P

[1] http://www.jbb.de/judgment_dc_frankfurt_gpl.pdf

regards,
Jasbir

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Re: [ilugd] Installing Linux on an External Hard Disk

2007-09-22 Thread Saleem Ansari
On 9/22/07, Puneet Lakhina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 I have recently bought a Dell Laptop which has come with vista
 preinstalled.
 In my earlier post some people had recommended resizing the windows
 partition, but there was also some indications that this is a little
 complex.

 I have thought of a solution on which I want to get some views. I have
 spare
 USB External Hard disk lying around in my desk. So i thought maybe I can
 install Linux on this and boot from this USB drive when I want to use
 Linux.



Well I myself have never did an installation on a USB harddisk, but perhaps
this will be helpful.
http://www.dinkercharak.com/comp/linux-usb.htm
If you manage to go some steps further then do reply.

I would be really glad if anyone could point out the potential problems I
 might face with this sort of setup.

 Thanks.

 --
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Re: [ilugd] Installing Linux on an External Hard Disk

2007-09-22 Thread Asheesh Varshneya
I have installed Ubuntu on my external hard disk.
I had installed it in the normal way we do it for internal hard disk.
The main problem i got was that i was able to boot the os on my pc but nowhere 
else .
Lot of errors came when i had booted it on my friends laptop.


Saleem Ansari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/22/07, Puneet Lakhina 
 wrote:

 Hi,
 I have recently bought a Dell Laptop which has come with vista
 preinstalled.
 In my earlier post some people had recommended resizing the windows
 partition, but there was also some indications that this is a little
 complex.

 I have thought of a solution on which I want to get some views. I have
 spare
 USB External Hard disk lying around in my desk. So i thought maybe I can
 install Linux on this and boot from this USB drive when I want to use
 Linux.



Well I myself have never did an installation on a USB harddisk, but perhaps
this will be helpful.
http://www.dinkercharak.com/comp/linux-usb.htm
If you manage to go some steps further then do reply.

I would be really glad if anyone could point out the potential problems I
 might face with this sort of setup.

 Thanks.

 --
 Puneet
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Re: [ilugd] Installing Linux on an External Hard Disk

2007-09-22 Thread Sahil Dave
this probably happened becoz your GRUB was in your internal HD's MBR and not
your external USB HD.!!


On 9/22/07, Asheesh Varshneya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have installed Ubuntu on my external hard disk.
 I had installed it in the normal way we do it for internal hard disk.
 The main problem i got was that i was able to boot the os on my pc but
 nowhere else .
 Lot of errors came when i had booted it on my friends laptop.




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Re: [ilugd] Installing Linux on an External Hard Disk

2007-09-22 Thread PJ
Puneet Lakhina [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[snip bit about laptop with MS windows]
 I have thought of a solution on which I want to get some views. I have spare
 USB External Hard disk lying around in my desk. So i thought maybe I can
 install Linux on this and boot from this USB drive when I want to use Linux.
 
 I would be really glad if anyone could point out the potential problems I
 might face with this sort of setup.
 

You could use: QEMU/Puppy (http://www.erikveen.dds.nl/qemupuppy/).

Effectively using the usb flashdrive as the OS, and the hard disk as
heavy storage.

I'm tired of laptops nowadays. I reckon this is a good interim solution
until commodity head up displays become ubiquitous.

PJ




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Re: [ilugd] Installing Linux on an External Hard Disk

2007-09-22 Thread Kazim Zaidi
 [snip bit about laptop with MS windows]
  I have thought of a solution on which I want to get some views. I have
 spare
  USB External Hard disk lying around in my desk. So i thought maybe I can
  install Linux on this and boot from this USB drive when I want to use
 Linux.
 
  I would be really glad if anyone could point out the potential problems
 I
  might face with this sort of setup.


Ubuntu does not  work really well  after being installed on one hardware and
moved to another.
There's a similar thing called LiveCDCustomization for you. Have a look,

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization

Meanwhile, one of my friends had installed Dynebolic, that runs pretty well
on USB hard disks.
The problem with Ubuntu is that on every system, it needs some configuring
when hardware changes (like editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf etc.).

However, if you've similar hardware on all machines, then your
usb-installation will work perfectly. While installing Ubuntu, make sure you
turn off Automatic Mounting of external hard-drives after booting from
live cd.

With big portable external harddisks around these days, the option of
carrying your OS around seems great!


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B.Tech. (Computers) 3rd year
Jamia Millia Islamia, New Delhi
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Re: [ilugd] [X-POSTED] First GPL violation filed in USA

2007-09-22 Thread Linux Lingam
On 9/21/07, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 The first lawsuit for GPL violation in the USA has been filed yesterday
 against Monsoon Multimedia, who were distributing busybox without
 making the source code available.  This appears to be primarily a
 precedent-setting action, since MM had already acknowledged that they
 were using GPL source code in their product(s).  [snip]
 Story at: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070920153227686

 Regards,

 - -- Raju


or, this could also be a cheap publicity stunt, given that one of the
founders of the company has a background in law, and the founders like
to create startups they can sell off at great prices. well, this si
the best way to generate a huge buzz around their company, let every
blogger, mailing list, forum discuss it. once the buzz dies, a quiet
outofcourt settlement may follow, with nice soundbytes on how much
they appreciate the gpl etc.
then another piece of news on how some other company has paid a
fortune for their product or their company.

maybe i'm wrong.

:-)
niyam

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