Re: [ilugd] [Freed] Meeting for Freed.in discussion, 3pm, Sun., 30/12, JNU

2007-12-28 Thread Saurabh Nanda
> Please do
> remember that Freed.in is what the community wants it
> to be, so if you do not like the change of focus, please
> be at the meeting, and make yourselves heard.

This focus on "what the community wants", in my opinion, does not
always work. There are things which need to be driven by a single
person or a small core team based on their personal convictions.
Everything can't be a decision by committee.

All those who're harping about the inappropriateness about the new
direction of Freed on the mailing list (me included) will probably not
work as much (or not work at all) in running around to get stuff
organized. So why let them take control of the decision? (which would
mean giving them a vote in the meeting -- if it comes to that)

The core team can listen to everyone's view, and execute only what
they themselves are convinced about. Not some fuzzy "community" trying
to drive stuff by proxy using video conferencing and IRC.

Nandz.
-- 
http://nandz.blogspot.com
http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com

___
ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org
http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008
Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi 
http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/


Re: [ilugd] [Freed] Meeting for Freed.in discussion, 3pm, Sun., 30/12, JNU

2007-12-28 Thread Roshan
--- "Pushp ..." wrote:

[snip...]

> * Sorry for wasting your precious time by
> interfering in
> between.Mysincere appologies to all if u find this
> mail a
> CRAP.

You seem to have used a HTML format and set all text
within your email to be bold. Kindly avoid that in
future. Great to know that you have a lot of interest
in Linux. (Have some in GNU too ;) -- Ignore if you
didn't get the joke)

Go ahead, participate in the upcoming meet for Freed,
and put up your suggestions. Tell them that you'll be
a volunteer and help out the "big" FOSS folks to run
the event smoothly. 

If you are a great artist, know how to create graphics
using GIMP or Krita or any *cough* such tool, tell
them you could create posters for specific needs.

Check out websites of various distros -- they are in
need of help, as usual. 

Go there! and "Just Do it" (TM)

--
http://www.gnu.org.in
http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc


  Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. Go to 
http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html

___
ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org
http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008
Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi 
http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/


Re: [ilugd] ubuntu feisty roll-forward till oct 2007

2007-12-28 Thread tirveni yadav
On Dec 28, 2007 5:47 PM, Linux Lingam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
>
> once done, is there any way in which i can create some sort of a
> snapshot system, so if the system rattles again due to an update or a
> patch, i safely roll-back to a known, working snapshot?
>
Snapshot, hmmm, hope this is helpful
just recently was faced with this situation twice in last two months.

1) First time, needed to replace a hard disk, two hard disks with same
specs,
   a- partitioned the new hard disk exactly the same as the old
one.Andformatted the partitions in same type. Set the bootable flag .
   b- used the dd utility to copy the root partition from the first hard
disk to the new one, for example dd if=/dev/hdc1 of=/dev/hdd2 . It was very
time consuming, took more than 2 hours.


2) Second Time, Two hard disks with same specs,
   a- partitioned the new hard disk exactly the same as the old
one.Andformatted the partitions in same
type.Set the bootable flag
   b- Then because of the time consumed doing the dd , looked around and
found partimage . It backs up the partition with the data and can restore
the partition( bigger than the backed up partition).
   c- After using the partimage, to copy and restore.
Had to use the dd , dd if=/dev/hdc of=/dev/hdd to copy the MBR.

more info: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=287522

-- 
Regards,
Tirveni

Tirveni Yadav
Freed.in
Freedom in Technology & Software
February 2008 , Jawaharlal Nehru University
___
ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org
http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008
Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi 
http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/


Re: [ilugd] [Freed] Meeting for Freed.in discussion, 3pm, Sun., 30/12, JNU

2007-12-28 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 28-Dec-07, at 7:13 PM, Raj Mathur wrote:

>>> IRC is inelegant for a participatory meet.
>>
>> BS - it works just fine
>
> Thanks for volunteering to sit in at the meet and relay messages  
> between
> the local and the IRC participants :)

Is this intended to be a joke? If so, it is in very poor taste, or  
else it is due to ignorance of the power of IRC. There was recently a  
sprint by the django community. About a 100 people all around the  
world participated. The main group was in Chicago, with other smaller  
groups in other cities and many individuals sitting in their homes.  
It was all done over IRC. IRC can be used in two ways:

1. Projected on a screen where all the participants can see the  
progress. Incidentally the minutes can also be entered in real time  
on a wiki and projected on the screen. We have successfully  
demonstrated this at our meeting in Chennai (Gora had attended)

2. If wifi is available, members with laptops can also use IRC.

Of course, if your reply was intended to suppress discussion in the  
heavy handed way one has come to expect from some ilugd members,  
please ignore this mail.


-- 
regards

Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate, NRC-FOSS
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

Foss conference for the common man: http://registration.fossconf.in/web/




___
ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org
http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008
Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi 
http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/


Re: [ilugd] [Freed] Meeting for Freed.in discussion, 3pm, Sun., 30/12, JNU

2007-12-28 Thread Raj Mathur
On Friday 28 Dec 2007, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> On 28-Dec-07, at 5:34 PM, Linux Lingam wrote:
> > IRC is inelegant for a participatory meet.
>
> BS - it works just fine

Thanks for volunteering to sit in at the meet and relay messages between 
the local and the IRC participants :)

Regards,

-- Raju
-- 
Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://kandalaya.org/
 Freedom in Technology & Software || February 2008 || http://freed.in/
   GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5  0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F
PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/   ||   It is the mind that moves

___
ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org
http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008
Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi 
http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/


Re: [ilugd] [Freed] Meeting for Freed.in discussion, 3pm, Sun., 30/12, JNU

2007-12-28 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 28-Dec-07, at 5:34 PM, Linux Lingam wrote:

> IRC is inelegant for a participatory meet.

BS - it works just fine


-- 
regards

Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate, NRC-FOSS
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

Foss conference for the common man: http://registration.fossconf.in/web/




___
ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org
http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008
Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi 
http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/


[ilugd] ubuntu feisty roll-forward till oct 2007

2007-12-28 Thread Linux Lingam
dear all,


in april 2007, i installed a fresh ubuntu feisty on my five-year-old
desktop that is now growing long in the bluetooth.
i regularly updated and applied patches on it, so i had a 'more
usable' system that worked brilliantly, till the last week of oct
2007.

the subsequent updates and patches hurled my system into turbulent
weather, the fasten-seat-belts sign lit up, and soon the system just
became completely unusable.

noticed that gutsy's specs for hardware are more than what i have currently.

am therefore sitting at this moment with my cd of ubuntu feisty, ready
to do a fresh-install. alas! that mercilessly rolls me back  to an
april 2007 ecosystem.

is there any way for me to configure or tweak my system updates, apt
sources, etc., so the system and apps that i wish to install and
update roll-forward and stop at october 2007 and don't go beyond that?

once done, is there any way in which i can create some sort of a
snapshot system, so if the system rattles again due to an update or a
patch, i safely roll-back to a known, working snapshot?


your help and suggestions much appreciated.

regards
niyam

-- 
niyam bhushan

___
ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org
http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008
Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi 
http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/


Re: [ilugd] [Freed] Meeting for Freed.in discussion, 3pm, Sun., 30/12, JNU

2007-12-28 Thread Linux Lingam
On Dec 28, 2007 2:16 PM, Gora Mohanty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-12-28 at 13:49 +0530, Pradeepto Bhattacharya wrote:
> [...]
> >   I am wondering if it will be possible to participate via
> > IRC. That would be great though.
> [...]
>
> We can certainly try that, though it has not worked well in
> the past. Maybe, if we specifically allocate time for IRC
> comments. We do need to find a way to have broader
> participation in meetings for people who are not in Delhi.

IRC is inelegant for a participatory meet. andrew mentioned a superb
solution once for group video conferencing. we could try that.
ideally, a webcam that captures the overall ambience, and a mic,
passed around so that audio may make it to the webcast, could get it
started. the rest as per doktor professeur andrew.

let's actively pursue a solution for remote-participation that is more
evolved than IRC.

regards
niyam


-- 
niyam bhushan

___
ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org
http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008
Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi 
http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/


Re: [ilugd] [Freed] Meeting for Freed.in discussion, 3pm, Sun., 30/12, JNU

2007-12-28 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Fri, 2007-12-28 at 13:49 +0530, Pradeepto Bhattacharya wrote:
[...]
>   I am wondering if it will be possible to participate via
> IRC. That would be great though.
[...]

We can certainly try that, though it has not worked well in
the past. Maybe, if we specifically allocate time for IRC
comments. We do need to find a way to have broader
participation in meetings for people who are not in Delhi.

Regards,
Gora


___
ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org
http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008
Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi 
http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/


Re: [ilugd] [Freed] Meeting for Freed.in discussion, 3pm, Sun., 30/12, JNU

2007-12-28 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
Hi,

On Dec 28, 2007 12:11 PM, Gora Mohanty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>   Looking at the recent interest in the direction taken
> by Freed.in, I thought that it would be useful to have
> an ILUG-Delhi meeting as soon as possible. Please do
> remember that Freed.in is what the community wants it
> to be, so if you do not like the change of focus, please
> be at the meeting, and make yourselves heard. As time is
> short, this is probably the last meeting at which we can
> consider any major changes for the 2008 event, so do be
> there if you are interested.
>
>   Here are the details:
>Event:   ILUG-Delhi meeting
>Date:Sun., Dec. 30th
>Time:15:00 (3.00pm)
>Agenda:
>  o Direction, and scope for Freed.in
>  o Specific plans for Freed.in, 2008
>Participants: All on this list.
>Venue:   Rm. 1, School of Information Technology,
> Jawaharlal Nehru University.
>Contact person: Me (9868527992)
>

  I am wondering if it will be possible to participate via
IRC. That would be great though.

  Cheers!

Pradeepto
-- 
The KDE Project : http://www.kde.org
KDE India : http://in.kde.org
Mailing List : http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-india

___
ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org
http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008
Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi 
http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/