Re: [ilugd] Meet today - feedback - where does the money comes from in FOSS
Good Question... I was also thinking about the same. One of my friend is very good in linux programming but he don't go for Open Sourceb'coz he don't know...earning potential in it. Anyone plase help. Regards... AjayB On 8/23/08, abhishek jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I was one of the many persons who attended the talks given by Gora and the other people. A question arised - what is the motivator behind the FOSS development, is it money, or rather can it be money. What do you think, What is the economics behind FOSS. How can one earn substantial money through FOSS? Pl. the topic may be Off topic to this technical group, but it is a valid question for starters of software develop. and those who want to take the development as a career, -- Thanks and kind Regards, Abhishek jain ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- -- Best Regards Ajay Bramhe 9818215303 --- 9213345639 My Profile : http://www.geocities.com/ajay_bramhe2001 My Photo Gallery :http://www.flickr.com/photos/bramhe Excellence is not a singular act, but a habit. You are what you repeatedly do. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Before Computers
Before Computers An application was for employment A program was a TV show A cursor used profanity A keyboard was a piano! Memory was something that you lost with age A CD was a bank account And a floppy disk was something Terribly wrong in your back. Compress was something you did to garbage Not something you did to a file And if you unzipped anything in public You'd be in jail for awhile! Log on was adding wood to a fire Hard drive was a long trip on the road A mouse pad was where a mouse lived And a backup happened to your commode! Cut - you did with a pocket knife Paste you did with glue A web was a spider's home And a virus was the flu! ** -- Excellence is not a singular act, but a habit. You are what you repeatedly do. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] How to Check Permgen Java Memory stats in JDK 1.4
Hello Folks Please Let me know how I can check for Permgen statistics of Java memory in JDK 1.4 I know with JDK 1.5 we have tools like jmap and jstat which can be used , any ideas how we can do with JDK1.4 regds saurabh -- We grow by dreams. -- Woodrow Wilson ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [LONG] where does the money comes from in FOSS
On Saturday 23 Aug 2008, abhishek jain wrote: Hello, I was one of the many persons who attended the talks given by Gora and the other people. A question arised - what is the motivator behind the FOSS development, is it money, or rather can it be money. What do you think, What is the economics behind FOSS. How can one earn substantial money through FOSS? That's actually three questions: 1. Why do people work with FOSS? 2. How does one earn money from programming in FOSS? 3. How does one earn money from FOSS? Answer to (1) is pretty simple, if long. People work with FOSS because of one or more of the following: - It's better. - It gives anyone an opportunity to go beyond just using and into actively contributing to applications. - There's a strong sense of community when you're working with and contributing to FOSS. - There's a strong sense of achievement when you see your contribution actually being used out in the wild. - You get tons of peer approval (and adulation if you happen to be Linus Torvalds) if that's what turns you on. - Your market value is higher if you know FOSS technologies. - You believe that software should be free and try to avoid proprietary technologies for that reason. The second question (earning money programming in FOSS) is slightly tougher, but it's still possible to do it: - There are bounty providers who will pay you money to write FOSS code. RH and Google spring to mind. Sarai also does the same. - You can specialise in extending and customising specific FOSS packages for customer requirements. If the original package happens to be under a GPL-like licence your results will also be FOSS. - You can just tell your clients that any software you write will be FOSS, and if the software is meant to scratch a specific itch they probably won't mind. Of course, if the software implements any part of their business strategy they won't be that happy with a FOSS solution. Finally, earning money from FOSS is dead easy -- I do it all the time. Rather than make out my own list of ways to make money off FOSS, let me point you to Eric Raymond's essay on the subject: http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/magic-cauldron/magic-cauldron.html Specific strategies for making money from FOSS are in Chapter 9: http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/magic-cauldron/magic-cauldron-9.html Note that these are ways of making money from coding; you can also make ample money from supporting, installing, customising and integrating FOSS components for clients. Comments and additions to this list welcome. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [LONG] where does the money comes from in FOSS
very nicely written !! can I paste your thought in our wiki page ?? ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [LONG] where does the money comes from in FOSS
On Saturday 23 Aug 2008, narendra sisodiya wrote: very nicely written !! can I paste your thought in our wiki page ?? Sure. If you want a licence, use CC-BY-SA. And glad you liked it :) Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [LONG] where does the money comes from in FOSS
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 23 Aug 2008, abhishek jain wrote: Hello, I was one of the many persons who attended the talks given by Gora and the other people. A question arised - what is the motivator behind the FOSS development, is it money, or rather can it be money. What do you think, What is the economics behind FOSS. How can one earn substantial money through FOSS? That's actually three questions: 1. Why do people work with FOSS? 2. How does one earn money from programming in FOSS? 3. How does one earn money from FOSS? .. snip .. http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/magic-cauldron/magic-cauldron.html Specific strategies for making money from FOSS are in Chapter 9: http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/magic-cauldron/magic-cauldron-9.html Note that these are ways of making money from coding; you can also make ample money from supporting, installing, customising and integrating FOSS components for clients. Indeed very nicely drafted, and I also enjoyed Eric S. Raymond's article on economics of FOSS. On Eric's chapter 10, When To Open, and When To Be Closed. How much the FOSS is effected in case M$ also open its source? Secondly like this article, Is there any single place where all the software's licenses are explained? No I don't want to become FOSS advocate rather want to understand with simplicity like Eric explained the complex subject of economics in FOSS. Regards Yash ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Meet today - feedback - where does the money comes from in FOSS
abhishek jain wrote: A question arised - what is the motivator behind the FOSS development, is it money, or rather can it be money. There is an existing body of papers on similar themes at http://opensource.mit.edu/online_papers.php?lim=1000 -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
