Re: [ilugd] Windblows on Software Freedom Day

2008-09-22 Thread gajendra khanna
 Ravikant happened to be attending the event, and I believe it's his
 choice what OS he wants to use.
It is his choice to use the OS he wants. Whats more important is that
he was using Firefox on Winblows which is very much a FOSS product.
(for running the launched site). Free software is available across
platforms and its use should be promoted on all of them.

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Re: [ilugd] Windblows on Software Freedom Day

2008-09-22 Thread Jeba Singh Emmanuel | जेबा सिंह ईम्म ेनुयेल
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 11:32 AM, gajendra khanna
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

  Ravikant happened to be attending the event, and I believe it's his
  choice what OS he wants to use.
 It is his choice to use the OS he wants. Whats more important is that
 he was using Firefox on Winblows which is very much a FOSS product.
 (for running the launched site). Free software is available across
 platforms and its use should be promoted on all of them.


An additional benefit is also that of a new user seeing Windows at such an
event and then seeing free and open software running on it. A new person who
has been using Windows for long would be comfortable and now open to the
ideas being presented about freedom in software. We are not asking him to
make a complete break but try out such FOSS software running on windows and
see its strengths. You must remember that most people have no idea about the
philosophies behind not using windows. So when we genuinely explain that
windows is restrictive and there are better options available they begin to
understand. They would try out some free software on windows, be happy with
it and then start enquiring about linux itself. Using Windows IMHO is not
hypocrisy. It also clears the notion that we are MS or Windows bashers.

 As for my first comment, I apologise if I was too abrupt. It was just a gut
feeling which I expressed. I didn't really research any references nor do I
intend to do so for the sake of argument.

And yes, suggestions that Linux be preferred would be fine. However I do
believe a lot of work of porting FOSS software to Windows and Mac platforms
is an important effort of volunteers and a major part of FOSS efforts and
need to be given visibility too. What better way than to show them running
on windows? :-) .

Peace.

Jeba Singh Emmanuel
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Re: [ilugd] Windblows on Software Freedom Day

2008-09-22 Thread shantanu goel
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Monday 22 Sep 2008, shantanu goel wrote:
 [snip]
 Now, instead of straightaway taking a call, my question is as to
 the why behind the particular pic in question. Is it because Linux
 was not able to fit the bill technically for the activity involved?
 Or is it just because there wasn't any specific reason to use linux
 because it was a free software event and not a linux event?

 Isn't it the call of the user whether s/he want to use Winduhs or Linux?
 In the specific case of this photograph, the user is Ravikant who dual
 boots between the two.  The activity taking place when that photo was
 snapped had nothing to do (directly) with the Software Freedom Day --
 Ravikant happened to be attending the event, and I believe it's his
 choice what OS he wants to use.
[snip]
Taking a call was not meant to refer to the choice of the OS by the
user here, but I was refering to Linux Lingam's statement that ILUG-D
has to take a call whether this is against ILUG-D's principle or not.
I, of course, completely agree and support all your comments about
free software and this being completely appropriate as this was a
Software Freedom Day and not a linux day (Had mentioned the same in
my earlier email as well repetitively). Rest of the 2 questions were
for my curiosity, that was it for some technical reason or just like
that...
-Shantz

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Re: [ilugd] Windblows on Software Freedom Day

2008-09-22 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 00:42:19 +0530
Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
 though the software being shown may be gpl or equivalent, and sarai's
 contributions to the foss community commendable,
 i think we must take a call in principle, on the use of proprietary
 software at any foss event in which ILUG-D participates.
 whaddya say?
[...]

Hi,
  There are two issues here:
(a) Should ILUG-Delhi allow the use of proprietary software
used for demos/presentations at an event in which it
participates? My opinion is that, unless the presentation
actively promotes proprietary software, we should stay
out of it. Thus, doing a presentation on MS.NET is not
acceptable, but a Powerpoint presentation on Microsoft
Windows is; in my personal opinion, of course.
(b) Should Sarai, as an avowedly FOSS organisation, use
proprietary software in a public demo? My opinion is no,
but again I believe that this should be done through peer
pressure, rather than outright banning. The person in
question uses Linux/KDE on his desktop, which is a large
part of his computing, and dual-boots at home due to his
daughter's addiction to KDE games. He has been considering
switching his laptop too to Linux, so maybe here is an
opportunity.

Regards,
Gora

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[ilugd] [X-Post] 2008 Sarai FLOSS fellowships call for proposals now closed.

2008-09-22 Thread Gora Mohanty
(Please note the wide cross-posting, and trim follow-ups.)

Hello,
  Thank you for all of the submissions to the call for
proposals for the 2008 Sarai FLOSS fellowship programme,
with ILUG-Delhi as technical partners. The response has
been overwhelming, and we are wading through the
submissions, many of which came in the last couple of days.
Please give us till 6pm tomorrow (Tue., Sep. 23rd) to
send you an acknowledgement, and feedback, if warranted.
Please do get in touch if you have not heard back from us
by then.

  I expect collation, and review of the submissions to
take a week to ten days, so that we should be able to
announce the results by the first week of Oct. Thank you
again for the great response.

Regards,
Gora

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Re: [ilugd] Windblows on Software Freedom Day

2008-09-22 Thread narendra sisodiya
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 00:42:19 +0530
 Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [...]
  though the software being shown may be gpl or equivalent, and sarai's
  contributions to the foss community commendable,
  i think we must take a call in principle, on the use of proprietary
  software at any foss event in which ILUG-D participates.
  whaddya say?
 [...]

 Hi,
  There are two issues here:
 (a) Should ILUG-Delhi allow the use of proprietary software
used for demos/presentations at an event in which it
participates? My opinion is that, unless the presentation
actively promotes proprietary software, we should stay
out of it. Thus, doing a presentation on MS.NET is not
acceptable, but a Powerpoint presentation on Microsoft
Windows is; in my personal opinion, of course.


IMHO, When we have hundred of tool to make to make presentations, why one
should use ppt by MS. whether a person is from FOSS or Linux or GNU/Linux,
he always has choice of using free or open source software. Why the hell one
should use proprietary software for public demo ?**


 (b) Should Sarai, as an avowedly FOSS organisation, use
proprietary software in a public demo? My opinion is no,
but again I believe that this should be done through peer
pressure, rather than outright banning. The person in
question uses Linux/KDE on his desktop, which is a large
part of his computing, and dual-boots at home due to his
daughter's addiction to KDE games. He has been considering
switching his laptop too to Linux, so maybe here is an
opportunity.

 Regards,
 Gora

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Re: [ilugd] Windblows on Software Freedom Day

2008-09-22 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:37:47 +0530
narendra sisodiya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 00:42:19 +0530
  Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  [...]
   though the software being shown may be gpl or equivalent, and sarai's
   contributions to the foss community commendable,
   i think we must take a call in principle, on the use of proprietary
   software at any foss event in which ILUG-D participates.
   whaddya say?
  [...]
 
  Hi,
   There are two issues here:
  (a) Should ILUG-Delhi allow the use of proprietary software
 used for demos/presentations at an event in which it
 participates? My opinion is that, unless the presentation
 actively promotes proprietary software, we should stay
 out of it. Thus, doing a presentation on MS.NET is not
 acceptable, but a Powerpoint presentation on Microsoft
 Windows is; in my personal opinion, of course.
 
 
 IMHO, When we have hundred of tool to make to make presentations, why one
 should use ppt by MS. whether a person is from FOSS or Linux or GNU/Linux,
 he always has choice of using free or open source software. Why the hell one
 should use proprietary software for public demo ?**

Vehement words from someone who was recently publicly
promoting ipaper (hint, that is not free, and they
give you no guarantee on how they use your content).
This makes it worse than PowerPoint, in my opinion.

Regards,
Gora

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Re: [ilugd] Software Freedom Day 2008, New Delhi, Photos

2008-09-22 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 00:29:34 +0530
Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]

 still, wish audacity's mp3 codecs worked without that portaudio
 problem, (was it that?) so we could have done some live demos.
 maybe another time, maybe soon.

Sorry, I should have checked audacity for sound issues,
as I had encountered, and fixed such problems the last
time we installed Ubuntu Studio. Will do that soon.

 gora and i informally discussed we should do this. proper.
[...]

Yes, posting an announcement soon, as I have heard back
from the g.i.s.s. people.

Regards,
Gora

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Re: [ilugd] Software Freedom Day 2008, New Delhi, Photos

2008-09-22 Thread Gora Mohanty
Hi,
  Forgot to mention this, but I have collected together
the various links to photographs, and stories, and
added them to:
http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/SoftwareFreedomDayNotes

There are also some haphazard notes there. Maybe
someone can take a stab at organising these, and
at augmenting them.

Regards,
Gora

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Re: [ilugd] Windblows on Software Freedom Day

2008-09-22 Thread narendra sisodiya
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:37:47 +0530
 narendra sisodiya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 00:42:19 +0530
   Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   [...]
though the software being shown may be gpl or equivalent, and sarai's
contributions to the foss community commendable,
i think we must take a call in principle, on the use of proprietary
software at any foss event in which ILUG-D participates.
whaddya say?
   [...]
  
   Hi,
There are two issues here:
   (a) Should ILUG-Delhi allow the use of proprietary software
  used for demos/presentations at an event in which it
  participates? My opinion is that, unless the presentation
  actively promotes proprietary software, we should stay
  out of it. Thus, doing a presentation on MS.NET is not
  acceptable, but a Powerpoint presentation on Microsoft
  Windows is; in my personal opinion, of course.
 
 
  IMHO, When we have hundred of tool to make to make presentations, why one
  should use ppt by MS. whether a person is from FOSS or Linux or
 GNU/Linux,
  he always has choice of using free or open source software. Why the hell
 one
  should use proprietary software for public demo ?**

 Vehement words from someone who was recently publicly
 promoting ipaper (hint, that is not free, and they
 give you no guarantee on how they use your content).
 This makes it worse than PowerPoint, in my opinion.

Your opinion is very correct and I respect.
Ya ipaper have many issue , and that is why I am not going on that idea for
my project. But was a idea and I wanted to free my mind from such ideas.


 Regards,
 Gora

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[ilugd] Multimedia workshop

2008-09-22 Thread Gora Mohanty
Hi,
  Various people have been kicking around the idea of
a FLOSS multimedia workshop, and the Open g.is.s. folk
are still interested in coming to Delhi.

  So, we have to decide on several things within the
next 2-3 days. Please send any input by then:
(a) Duration: The visiting folk want two days, but I
am not sure if we will have enough to cover, and
enough of an audience.
(b) Dates: Possible dates are:
(i) Oct. 4/5
(ii) Oct. 11/12: The g.i.s.s. folk are currently
 expected then, but can conceivably be asked
 to come the previous weekend.
(c) Venue: Needs a decent sound set-up, as well as
normal things like overhead projectors. Finally,
a PC with Ubuntu studio, various additional
applications, and tested for sound (!) is needed.
Possibilities are:
(i) Sarai seminar room: Available 4th/5th, and on
the 11th, but not on the 12th. We would also
like to avoid the 11th, as there is a 3-day
Sarai event planned after that.
(ii) JNU: Andrew? Possible? Sound-setup available?
(iii) Other: Please volunteer, keeping in mind the
  above requirements.
(d) Other issues: We might have a separate workshop at
KIT, Ghaziabad, during one of those weekends. So,
someone will need to take the lead role in managing
this workshop.

Regards,
Gora

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Re: [ilugd] Multimedia workshop

2008-09-22 Thread Swapnil Bhartiya

 (b) Dates: Possible dates are:
(i) Oct. 4/5
(ii) Oct. 11/12: The g.i.s.s. folk are currently
 expected then, but can conceivably be asked
 to come the previous weekend.


I am OK with any Sunday, along with second Saturday.


 (c) Venue: Needs a decent sound set-up, as well as
normal things like overhead projectors. Finally,
a PC with Ubuntu studio, various additional
applications, and tested for sound (!) is needed.
Possibilities are:


Can we have some more specifics on what will be the focus. I would like to
be there if they are going to share with us some info on FOSS tools to be
used as 'production-quality' alternates to proprietary ones. Because I don't
want to touch any Apple FCP or Windows Avid for video editing. If that is
the case, then we not only come out with good story idea but also able to
influence some of my friends in mainstream media who use closed source
products and bring them to GNU/Linux platform.

 But if the event is just about introduction to some kinds of sound then I
may lose my appetite, as we learnt a lot about sound in our Film making days
in Jamia MCRC ;-)

Swapnil
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Re: [ilugd] Multimedia workshop

2008-09-22 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:26:08 +0530
Swapnil Bhartiya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
 Can we have some more specifics on what will be the focus. I
 would like to be there if they are going to share with us some
 info on FOSS tools to be used as 'production-quality' alternates
 to proprietary ones.
[...]

Ack, forgot to add that. So, here is:
(e) Topics: Possible ones are listed under the multimedia section
of http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/Main/CollegeExpo
The g.i.s.s. committee folk are more into streaming media on
the Internet, and their outline for a 4-day (!) workshop is at
http://giss.tv/wiki/index.php/Workshop_India . We can pick and
choose from these, and they also do have some experience with
FLOSS multimedia tools.

If you want someone to speak on FLOSS video-editing tools, I would
urge you to look around for an expert, and volunteer her for the
talk.

Regards,
Gora

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[ilugd] Lenovo Cutting On GNU/Linux PCs!

2008-09-22 Thread Swapnil Bhartiya
Have a look at this one: Ray Gorman, Lenovo says, What's changed is that
customers will no longer be able to order Lenovo
ThinkPadshttp://www.computerworld.com/action/inform.do?command=searchsearchTerms=Lenovo+ThinkPadand
ThinkCentres with pre-installed Linux via the
lenovo.com web site.

http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/091108-lenovo-halts-online-sales-of.html

Not a good sign...

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Re: [ilugd] [X-Post][Commercial] FLOSS position available at Sarai

2008-09-22 Thread Gora Mohanty
(Please note the wide cross-posting, and trim follow-ups
 as appropriate.)

Hi,
  This is a reminder that the last date for receiving
applications for the senior FLOSS position at Sarai,
CSDS, is midnight the coming Sun., 28th Sep., 2008.
It might also be possible for us offer a junior-level
position to a talented candidate. So, please do not
hesitate to send in a resume.

  For any questions, please contact me off-list, or send
email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . You can also call me at
+919868527992. Please also feel free to circulate
this announcement, and the link with job details at
http://www.sarai.net/practices/software/senior-floss-position-available

Regards,
Gora

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Re: [ilugd] [X-Post][Commercial] FLOSS position available at Sarai

2008-09-22 Thread Gora Mohanty
(Please note the wide cross-posting, and trim follow-ups
 as appropriate.)

Hi,
  This is a reminder that the last date for receiving
applications for the senior FLOSS position at Sarai,
CSDS, is midnight the coming Sun., 28th Sep., 2008.
It might also be possible for us offer a junior-level
position to a talented candidate. So, please do not
hesitate to send in a resume.

  For any questions, please contact me off-list, or send
email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . You can also call me at
+919868527992. Please also feel free to circulate
this announcement, and the link with job details at
http://www.sarai.net/practices/software/senior-floss-position-available

Regards,
Gora

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Re: [ilugd] Lenovo Cutting On GNU/Linux PCs!

2008-09-22 Thread Arun Khan
On Monday 22 Sep 2008, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote:

 Not a good sign...

Does it matter?  There is plenty of competition.  The company that 
ensures their hardware is compatible with Linux will attract the most 
buyers from the open source camp. 

2nd tier companies like e.g. ASUS see the value and have incorporated 
splashtop on their motherboards.

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[ilugd] Barcamp Mumbai on 4th - 5th October at IIT Bombay

2008-09-22 Thread narendra sisodiya
- Forwarded message --


Hello,

I hope you all are doing great. Like earlier, we are coming out with
BarcampMumbai 4 .



Barcamp http://www.barcamp.org/ as you would know is an ad-hoc gathering
born from the desire for people to share and learn in an open environment.
It is an intense event with discussions, demos and interaction from
participants.

*The long wait is over  BarCampMumbai4 is finally here with  a completely
new face for itself.
Barcamp Mumbai4 http://barcampmumbai.org/-  It is a two day event this
year.*


Registration has been started.
Get started here. *www.barcampmumbai.org*


You can follow barcamp @ -*www.twitter.com/bcm4*



*Schedule:
4th and 5th October.
Venue- School of Management -IIT Bombay Powai , Mumbai

*

*I request you to post this announcement in your blog /website/ web-reporter
/ e-newsletter .*

* *


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Re: [ilugd] Lenovo Cutting On GNU/Linux PCs!

2008-09-22 Thread Gaurav Mishra
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Arun Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Monday 22 Sep 2008, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote:

 Not a good sign...

 Does it matter?  There is plenty of competition.  The company that
 ensures their hardware is compatible with Linux will attract the most
 buyers from the open source camp.

 2nd tier companies like e.g. ASUS see the value and have incorporated
 splashtop on their motherboards.

can`t recall the source but dell is putting there linux based pc`s
soon in india, Not sure if they already did



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Re: [ilugd] Lenovo Cutting On GNU/Linux PCs!

2008-09-22 Thread narendra sisodiya


 can`t recall the source but dell is putting there linux based pc`s
 soon in india, Not sure if they already did

http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/laptop-vostro-a860?c=ukcs=ukbsdt1l=ens=bsd
http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/laptop-vostro-a840?c=incs=inbsd1l=ens=bsd
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Re: [ilugd] Lenovo Cutting On GNU/Linux PCs!

2008-09-22 Thread Swapnil Bhartiya
 can`t recall the source but dell is putting there linux based pc`s
 soon in india, Not sure if they already did


 Thanks and Regards
 Gaurav Mishra

Thats one of such sources.
http://www.efytimes.com/efytimes/fullnews.asp?edid=28450

Swapnil

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[ilugd] hi ballu bhai kya hal hai

2008-09-22 Thread sumit...left d stone age.....

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Re: [ilugd] Software Freedom Day 2008, New Delhi, Photos

2008-09-22 Thread Swapnil Bhartiya

 Hello I want details of event held on that day (software Freedom Delhi )


I will try to write a piece for LINUX For You magazine covering the event.

Regards
Swapnil
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Re: [ilugd] hi ballu bhai kya hal hai

2008-09-22 Thread Gaurav Mishra
Holy OMG ...This goes as the weirdest email in ILUGD history


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Re: [ilugd] hi ballu bhai kya hal hai

2008-09-22 Thread Swapnil Bhartiya
Holy OMG ...This goes as the weirdest email in ILUGD history

 I though it was some highly secure, encrypted message from Mars sent by
some aliens. Who is Ballu here ;-)

Swapnil
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Re: [ilugd] hi ballu bhai kya hal hai

2008-09-22 Thread shantanu goel
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 9:19 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Holy OMG ...This goes as the weirdest email in ILUGD history

 I though it was some highly secure, encrypted message from Mars sent by
 some aliens. Who is Ballu here ;-)
If anyone of you watch Prison Break, then you'd know that we have to
wait for another mail to know that. (Never keep all the information
together) :)

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Re: [ilugd] Multimedia workshop

2008-09-22 Thread नितिन जसवाल { Nitin Jaswal}
4/5th is fine by me.

~NJ

On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:26:08 +0530
 Swapnil Bhartiya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [...]
  Can we have some more specifics on what will be the focus. I
  would like to be there if they are going to share with us some
  info on FOSS tools to be used as 'production-quality' alternates
  to proprietary ones.
 [...]

 Ack, forgot to add that. So, here is:
 (e) Topics: Possible ones are listed under the multimedia section
of http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/Main/CollegeExpo
The g.i.s.s. committee folk are more into streaming media on
the Internet, and their outline for a 4-day (!) workshop is at
http://giss.tv/wiki/index.php/Workshop_India . We can pick and
choose from these, and they also do have some experience with
FLOSS multimedia tools.

 If you want someone to speak on FLOSS video-editing tools, I would
 urge you to look around for an expert, and volunteer her for the
 talk.

 Regards,
 Gora

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[ilugd] World's most helpful Gre Tool (Open Source, of course!!)

2008-09-22 Thread devesh
Hi All,

If this link is not helpful to you, please don't reply;

http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~arvindn/gretools/

Cheers,
Devesh.
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[ilugd] Linux Introduction class for ELCOT Laptop users

2008-09-22 Thread Shrinivasan T
Friends.

The laptop provided by ELCOT is preloaded with OpenSuse and Ubuntu linux.

But most of the people dont know how to use them.

They struggle a lot little little things like bluetooth, installing
apps, games, etc

It will be so nice, if we give a one day seminar on ow to use linux
for all elcot laptop users.

It is necessary too. I see more users remove linux and put windows
with local service engineers.

VirtualBox is there. but they dont know about it.

It is our responsible thing to urge and train people to use linux.

So, please arrange a tutorial day.
We can get all the email ids from elcot.

Waiting for the Linux Laptop Festival.

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T.Shrinivasan


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Re: [ilugd] hi ballu bhai kya hal hai

2008-09-22 Thread devesh
Holy OMG ...This goes as the weirdest email in ILUGD history

 I though it was some highly secure, encrypted message from Mars sent by
some aliens. Who is Ballu here ;-)

Oh, yes i can recognize this alien language...hi ballu bhai kya hal hai ..
Well i cannot say exactly, but it looks like a language used/spoken in
'India...where love is essence' on the 'Earth...where we survive' .And
also,once it had been compiled by 'some open source enthusiastic' (
http://hindawi.in).

Hey, if 'you' can hear/see/read 'us', - हम यहाँ हैं। हम आपकी कया साहयता कर
सकते हैं?

- Devesh.
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Re: [ilugd] Linux Introduction class for ELCOT Laptop users

2008-09-22 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:16:15 +0530
Shrinivasan T [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Friends.
 
 The laptop provided by ELCOT is preloaded with OpenSuse and Ubuntu linux.
 
 But most of the people dont know how to use them.
 
 They struggle a lot little little things like bluetooth, installing
 apps, games, etc
 
 It will be so nice, if we give a one day seminar on ow to use linux
 for all elcot laptop users.
 
 It is necessary too. I see more users remove linux and put windows
 with local service engineers.
 
 VirtualBox is there. but they dont know about it.
 
 It is our responsible thing to urge and train people to use linux.
 
 So, please arrange a tutorial day.
[...]

Hi,
  Of late, you have been spamming multiple newsgroups. Of these,
whom did you expect to respond? Did you start by trying to contact
the Chennai LUG? Or, better yet, ELCOT, to see if *they* had made
any arrangements for support. How is the community responsible for
some misguided initiative by moronic government departments.

Please stop spamming lists at random.

Regards,
Gora

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[ilugd] Fwd: Serious e1000e driver issue in SLE 11 Beta 1

2008-09-22 Thread Raj Mathur
[Forwarding without prejudice]

--  Forwarded Message  --

Subject: Fw: Serious e1000e driver issue in SLE 11 Beta 1
Date: Tuesday 23 Sep 2008
From: Sanjeev K Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Raj,

I am no longer subscribed to ILUGD, can you please forward if not yet 
known.

Thanks
-- 

- Forwarded by Sanjeev K Gupta/SG/eSys on 09/23/2008 10:37 AM -

Novell PartnerNet [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
09/23/2008 04:23 AM
Please respond to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


To
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc

Subject
Serious e1000e driver issue in SLE 11 Beta 1

Dear Partner and Beta Tester,

the Intel e1000e driver on openSUSE 11.1 Beta 1 and SUSE Linux
Enterprise 11 Beta 1 might have a serious issue with the
potential to damage the network card in a way that it cannot be
used any longer.

Intel and Novell are currently working to analyze and solve the
issue.

For the time being:

Please do NOT USE
openSUSE 11.1 Beta 1
or
SUSE Linux Enterprise 11 Beta 1
on systems with Intel e1000e hardware.

Any other hardware, including systems with
Intel e1000 (without -e) network cards, is not affected.

We will keep you posted.

With kind regards

  Your SUSE Linux Enterprise 11 Team

-- 
Thorsten Kukuk, Project Manager/Release Manager SLES
SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg
GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg)

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Re: [ilugd] hi ballu bhai kya hal hai

2008-09-22 Thread rajnish kumar
On 9/23/08, devesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Holy OMG ...This goes as the weirdest email in ILUGD history
  
   I though it was some highly secure, encrypted message from Mars sent by
  some aliens. Who is Ballu here ;-)


 Oh, yes i can recognize this alien language...hi ballu bhai kya hal hai ..
  Well i cannot say exactly, but it looks like a language used/spoken in
  'India...where love is essence' on the 'Earth...where we survive' .And
  also,once it had been compiled by 'some open source enthusiastic' (
  http://hindawi.in).

  Hey, if 'you' can hear/see/read 'us', - हम यहाँ हैं। हम आपकी कया साहयता कर
  सकते हैं?


  - Devesh.

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I think as per as i concern Hindi is not a language of aliens if some
one think that it is, then obviously all Indian's are aliens.

with regards
rajnish
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On 9/23/08, devesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Holy OMG ...This goes as the weirdest email in ILUGD history
  
   I though it was some highly secure, encrypted message from Mars sent by
  some aliens. Who is Ballu here ;-)


 Oh, yes i can recognize this alien language...hi ballu bhai kya hal hai ..
  Well i cannot say exactly, but it looks like a language used/spoken in
  'India...where love is essence' on the 'Earth...where we survive' .And
  also,once it had been compiled by 'some open source enthusiastic' (
  http://hindawi.in).

  Hey, if 'you' can hear/see/read 'us', - हम यहाँ हैं। हम आपकी कया साहयता कर
  सकते हैं?


  - Devesh.

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I think as per as i concern Hindi is not a language of aliens if some
one think that it is, then obviously all Indian's are aliens.

with regards
rajnish
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Re: [ilugd] hi ballu bhai kya hal hai

2008-09-22 Thread Raj Mathur
On Tuesday 23 Sep 2008, rajnish kumar wrote:
 [snip]
 I think as per as i concern Hindi is not a language of aliens if some
 one think that it is, then obviously all Indian's are aliens.

s/all Indians/all Hindi-speaking Indians/

We /do/ have 14+ official languages, you know?

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Re: [ilugd] hi ballu bhai kya hal hai

2008-09-22 Thread rajnish kumar
On 9/23/08, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tuesday 23 Sep 2008, rajnish kumar wrote:
   [snip]

  I think as per as i concern Hindi is not a language of aliens if some
   one think that it is, then obviously all Indian's are aliens.


 s/all Indians/all Hindi-speaking Indians/

  We /do/ have 14+ official languages, you know?

  -- Raju

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I am only talking about Hindi is not an aliens language you should try
to understand what i am talking, that's it.
with regards
rajnish

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