[ilugd] This is weird!

2009-04-06 Thread gurteshwar singh
Hi,
I received an email from crmarket...@airtel.in, I use airtel broadband
but this is the first time they sent such a mail. The mail had an
image attached which looks like a snapshot of some webpage. The weird
part is the text of the mail, it's some sort of Non-disclosure
Agreement which I'm supposed to automatically bind to as I open the
mail, that's totally absurd. I spoke to Airtel CC and at first one
person verified the mail but seemed quite unsure to me. He said it was
only sent to 'special' customers which makes me wonder why I am a
'special' customer. After two more calls to CC, I was told to forward
the mail to care@airtel.in. They said that they would call me back
in an hour. I am still waiting for that.

The content of the mail is as follows:

This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are for the sole use of
the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged
information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the
sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies and the original
message. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure,dissemination,
forwarding, printing or copying of this email or any action taken in
reliance on this e-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful.
The recipient acknowledges that Bharti Airtel Limited or its
subsidiaries and associated companies(collectively Bharti Airtel
Limited),are unable to exercise control or ensure or guarantee the
integrity of/overthe contents of the information contained in e-mail
transmissions and further acknowledges that any views expressed in
this message are those of the individual sender and no binding nature
of the message shall be implied or assumed unless the sender does so
expressly with due authority of Bharti Airtel Limited. Before opening
any attachments please check them for viruses and defects.

...

It looks more like a phishing attack. Sane advice would be not to open
the attachment but my curiosity got the better of me and I had to
check what this weird mail was. Since I have not received a good
enough response from Airtel for a week now, paranoia is setting in :-)
Anybody else received such a mail?

P.S.: Apologies if this looks like a long rant, but its really
confused me and googling around didn't help as I couldn't find anybody
else facing this issue.

Regards,
guru

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[ilugd] Open Source University Syllabus

2009-04-06 Thread Venkatesh Hariharan
Does anyone have copies of/links to university syllabus that
prescribes open source software in the main (not elective) syllabus?

One of our supporters is advising a university in connection with
finalizing the syllabus for their courses. Currently, their syllabus
includes oracle/windows/DotNET/SQL 2005 and other proprietary
products/technologies.

If you have copies of/links to university syllabus that prescribes
open source software, that would strengthen the case. Kindly forward
the same to me.

Regards,

Venky

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Re: [ilugd] Open Source University Syllabus

2009-04-06 Thread Sudhanwa Jogalekar
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Venkatesh Hariharan ven...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does anyone have copies of/links to university syllabus that
 prescribes open source software in the main (not elective) syllabus?

 One of our supporters is advising a university in connection with
 finalizing the syllabus for their courses. Currently, their syllabus
 includes oracle/windows/DotNET/SQL 2005 and other proprietary
 products/technologies.

 If you have copies of/links to university syllabus that prescribes
 open source software, that would strengthen the case. Kindly forward
 the same to me.


In many courses from Pune University and Symbiosis University, open
source is included. (PLUG was also involved during the process of
getting it included)

LAMP stack is more or less included in engineering, computer science,
computer applications courses.

If you are looking for something specific, please let me know.
Meanwhile, I will try to find the URLs on unipune.ernet.in

Regards
-Sudhanwa


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Re: [ilugd] Forking a GPlv2 project

2009-04-06 Thread Karanbir Singh

hi Gaurav,

Gaurav Mishra wrote:

have you actually made contact with that person ? have you given that person
reasonable amount of time to respond  ?

What's the reasonable amount of time ?, 2 months is a good one IMO


yeah, I would agree that 2 months is plenty. Specially since, as you 
say, the person has been active in this timeframe on the same forums and 
lists where you posted the query. I guess report a reminder and in there 
say something to the effect of : I'd like to push my changes out, would 
you prefer a patch or should I setup a parallel tree / build and you can 
pull from there if you like.


If he/she does not come back with anything, setting up a parallel SCM 
repository and open up to community feedback / builds etc would be one 
way to go. That way you dont really fork the project, just make it more 
community friendly.


Do you intend to keep the same name for the codebase / project ? That 
might involve more of a dialog with the original author.



The project doesn't have a devel mailing list or a sorceforge/github
kinda account and even a published svn. No collabration at all.


Perhaps that would be the first thing to target then :)


Well the last release is 6 months old (Which is fine), He is still
replying to forums where i have posted the question of helping in
development of project. Hope he responds.


You also have the option of pushing patched builds right now... you dont 
really need to wait for a response indefinitely.



My question is more on what are the stuff that a person should take
care while forking a project !, The way i want to take this project
may be completely different from what he is planning (and this is fine
, because this is my need) , What should a person do so that he/she
can get proper valuation for the previous work he/she has done.?


Make sure you dont antagonise the person - to some level the person will 
feel it, but thats ok. Make sure you clearly state why you are doing 
what you are doing ( eg: you wanted certain functionality that isnt in 
the othe code base, and there is little or no interest from 
$originalAuthor to incorporate ), and try to stay community friendly. If 
you come down to the level of where 'you' want the project to go Vs 
where 'he' wanted the project to go - you are not improving the 
situation any. Build a timeline and milestone projections -then let 
people contribute whatever they might want.


In terms of valuation - given them the right credits they deserve.

btw what project is this ?


- KB

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Re: [ilugd] This is weird!

2009-04-06 Thread Ravi Kumar


 The content of the mail is as follows:

 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are for the sole use of
 the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged
 information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the
 sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies and the original
 message. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure,dissemination,
 forwarding, printing or copying of this email or any action taken in
 reliance on this e-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful.
 The recipient acknowledges that Bharti Airtel Limited or its
 subsidiaries and associated companies(collectively Bharti Airtel
 Limited),are unable to exercise control or ensure or guarantee the
 integrity of/overthe contents of the information contained in e-mail
 transmissions and further acknowledges that any views expressed in
 this message are those of the individual sender and no binding nature
 of the message shall be implied or assumed unless the sender does so
 expressly with due authority of Bharti Airtel Limited. Before opening
 any attachments please check them for viruses and defects.


That is not the content but the disclaimer statements in footer. Maybe your
mail was just blank, because every mail from Airtel would have this text as
footer snippets.
This is usually followed to include such for companies which follows some
standards like ISO.
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[ilugd] April month meeting

2009-04-06 Thread masatheesh
Hi,

Any information about April month meeting?

Regards,
M.Satheesh.
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Re: [ilugd] This is weird!

2009-04-06 Thread Shamail Tayyab



It looks more like a phishing attack. Sane advice would be not to open
the attachment but my curiosity got the better of me and I had to
check what this weird mail was. Since I have not received a good
enough response from Airtel for a week now, paranoia is setting in :-)
Anybody else received such a mail?
  
Try to open the mail attachment in an isolated environment. As in a 
virtual Linux system. Even if it will cause damage, that won't effect you.

P.S.: Apologies if this looks like a long rant, but its really
confused me and googling around didn't help as I couldn't find anybody
else facing this issue.

Regards,
guru

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Re: [ilugd] This is weird!

2009-04-06 Thread Amar Singh
HI 
will u tell me how will we set password on a file or directory in linux

--- On Mon, 6/4/09, Ravi Kumar ra2...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Ravi Kumar ra2...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [ilugd] This is weird!
To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org
Date: Monday, 6 April, 2009, 10:55 AM



 The content of the mail is as follows:

 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are for the sole use of
 the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged
 information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the
 sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies and the original
 message. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure,dissemination,
 forwarding, printing or copying of this email or any action taken in
 reliance on this e-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful.
 The recipient acknowledges that Bharti Airtel Limited or its
 subsidiaries and associated companies(collectively Bharti Airtel
 Limited),are unable to exercise control or ensure or guarantee the
 integrity of/overthe contents of the information contained in e-mail
 transmissions and further acknowledges that any views expressed in
 this message are those of the individual sender and no binding nature
 of the message shall be implied or assumed unless the sender does so
 expressly with due authority of Bharti Airtel Limited. Before opening
 any attachments please check them for viruses and defects.


That is not the content but the disclaimer statements in footer. Maybe your
mail was just blank, because every mail from Airtel would have this text as
footer snippets.
This is usually followed to include such for companies which follows some
standards like ISO.
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Re: [ilugd] This is weird!

2009-04-06 Thread Ravi Kumar
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Amar Singh jeet_ama...@yahoo.in wrote:

 HI
 will u tell me how will we set password on a file or directory in linux

 Password on a file... :)
Well, encrypt your file .. just easy..
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