Re: [ilugd] Software Patent Busting at CIS
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 2:52 PM, vikas veshishth vikas.v.i...@gmail.comwrote: I didnt understand.Why is it wrong to have software patents.Or are you saying that the concept of Patent itself is wrong ?? --vikas We don't go into the broader question of whether patent itself is wrong. All we are saying is that software is not patentable subject matter under Indian law. Software is simply an algorithm/set of instructions for a computer to execute certain functions and is merely an expression of an idea which does not qualify for patent protection. Software being granted patent (and thus, monopoly for 20 years in an industry which witnesses innovation and development in a span of months or even weeks) results in, contrary to the very purpose for which a patent is granted, stifling of competition and development in the industry apart from preventing SMEs from innovating in the face of hundreds of patent claims filed by industry giants on a daily basis. Krithika ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Software Patent Busting at CIS
2010/8/10 Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) r...@linux-delhi.org: On Tuesday 10 Aug 2010, Ankit Chaturvedi wrote: I'm not a lawyer, though i have been on the wrong side of software patents many times. It's not completely true that software patents are not allowed in india. The simple answer is, it depends on the technology. Mobile, multimedia codecs, et al are frought with patent issues that can be lawfully upheld in india. Not a lawyer either, but AFAIR patents on software per se are not permitted in India. This is generally interpreted as disallowing software patents but permitting patents of embedded software which is tightly bound to the hardware it runs on. Of course, everyone interprets the per se to their own advantage. Patents on embedded devices is different than software patents. Software can not be seperated from embedded device and used individually without the required hardware. As such, it does not become a software patent. To the best of my knowledge a number of patents have been granted on software in India too, but using an under-handed technique. However, standard patents like on MP3 and MPEG technology are technically not valid in India unless implemented embedded. I am asking for some URL for any such patent so that I can go through it and understand the software patents issue in more detail. Looks like software patents in India are just HURD not SEEN ;-) -Sudhanwa ~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~! www.projects4students.com ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Software Patent Busting at CIS
There have been instances where a patent has been applied for a specific algorithm by using hardware acceleration provided by x86 cpus. Common example is accelerating video encoding by using the sse/mmx/3dnow extended instruction set, which differs slightly between cpu models and brands. This ties the software to a specific piece of hardware without actually building the hardware itself. Trivial, yes, and a clever lawyer can still prove dependence on h/w as a reason for not considering it as a software patent. You can refer to almost any patent on h.264 encoding acceleration and you will find that most of them deal with just accelerating motion searches using some sort of super-scalar execution technique, limiting anyone from using that technique even though it is only a (faster) software implemention of a standard. On 8/13/10, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.com wrote: 2010/8/10 Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) r...@linux-delhi.org: On Tuesday 10 Aug 2010, Ankit Chaturvedi wrote: I'm not a lawyer, though i have been on the wrong side of software patents many times. It's not completely true that software patents are not allowed in india. The simple answer is, it depends on the technology. Mobile, multimedia codecs, et al are frought with patent issues that can be lawfully upheld in india. Not a lawyer either, but AFAIR patents on software per se are not permitted in India. This is generally interpreted as disallowing software patents but permitting patents of embedded software which is tightly bound to the hardware it runs on. Of course, everyone interprets the per se to their own advantage. Patents on embedded devices is different than software patents. Software can not be seperated from embedded device and used individually without the required hardware. As such, it does not become a software patent. To the best of my knowledge a number of patents have been granted on software in India too, but using an under-handed technique. However, standard patents like on MP3 and MPEG technology are technically not valid in India unless implemented embedded. I am asking for some URL for any such patent so that I can go through it and understand the software patents issue in more detail. Looks like software patents in India are just HURD not SEEN ;-) -Sudhanwa ~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~! www.projects4students.com ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd -- Sent from my mobile device -- Ankit Chaturvedi GPG: 05DE FDC5 468B 7D9F 9F45 72F1 F7B9 9E16 ECA2 CC23 http://www.google.com/profiles/ankit.chaturvedi ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Website Designing Basic class in Jamia Millia Islamia
CSIJMI organising web designing class for the all the students who interested in making websites and don't know how to start . There is no specific language is required for these classes . We will make websites with the help of CMS Content Management System . *Date: 14th Aug 2010 Time : 9.30 am onwards venue : - Main Lab , 2nd Floor Department Of computer Science Faculty of Engineering and Technology Jamia Millia Islamia Organising Team : - JMILUG * *Topic will be :-* 1. *Apache Web Server * 2. *Introduction to My Sql* 3. *Content Management Systems* 4. *Installation Of CMS on Localhost* 5. *Query session * *Website :-* http://www.jmilug.org/cms/?q=node/16 http://www.jmilug.org/cms/?q=node/16%20 -- SHEEL SINDHU MANOHAR Twitter: http://twitter.com/ssmanohar Website:www.roboture.in ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Website Designing Basic class in Jamia Millia Islamia
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Sheel Sindhu Manohar sheel.lover...@gmail.com wrote: CSIJMI organising web designing class for the all the students who interested in making websites and don't know how to start . There is no specific language is required for these classes . We will make websites with the help of CMS Content Management System . *Date: 14th Aug 2010 Time : 9.30 am onwards venue : - Main Lab , 2nd Floor Department Of computer Science Faculty of Engineering and Technology Jamia Millia Islamia Organising Team : - JMILUG * *Topic will be :-* 1. *Apache Web Server * 2. *Introduction to My Sql* 3. *Content Management Systems* 4. *Installation Of CMS on Localhost* 5. *Query session * *Website :-* http://www.jmilug.org/cms/?q=node/16 http://www.jmilug.org/cms/?q=node/16%20 -- SHEEL SINDHU MANOHAR Twitter: http://twitter.com/ssmanohar Website:www.roboture.in ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd is it open for people of all religion. -- Regards, Nishant Prakash Kashyap ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Website Designing Basic class in Jamia Millia Islamia
Nishant Prakash Kashyap wrote: is it open for people of all religion. At least make some effort to give a constructive response. None of your responses till date have been useful. Try, someday you'll succeed. Regards Vivek Kapoor http://exain.com ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Website Designing Basic class in Jamia Millia Islamia
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 8:13 PM, Vivek Kapoor subs...@exain.com wrote: Nishant Prakash Kashyap wrote: is it open for people of all religion. At least make some effort to give a constructive response. None of your responses till date have been useful. Try, someday you'll succeed. Regards Vivek Kapoor http://exain.com ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd I dont need certificate from you. You call it a community and at the end of the day run after one single idea. There is no diversity. If someone disagrees with you, you get irritated very quick. -- Regards, Nishant Prakash Kashyap ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Website Designing Basic class in Jamia Millia Islamia
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 2:23 AM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Nishant Prakash Kashyap npkash...@gmail.com wrote: is it open for people of all religion. -- Regards, Nishant Prakash Kashyap WTF x 100 How one can frame such a stupid question. This is the most irritating mail I ever read in my whole life. Hereby I request to award Rotten Potato Award to Mr Nishant. -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Website Designing Basic class in Jamia Millia Islamia
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Nishant Prakash Kashyap npkash...@gmail.com wrote: is it open for people of all religion. -- Regards, Nishant Prakash Kashyap WTF x 100 ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Website Designing Basic class in Jamia Millia Islamia
Narendra, I dont care a damm for your comment. I know, you think you own this forum... you get irritated very fast when people take lead. You want that every people in this forum call you sir , sir... narendra sir. and when someone disagrees. Its a pity that people think there only one knowlegable in Delhi. Regards, Nishant Kashyap On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 2:25 AM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 2:23 AM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Nishant Prakash Kashyap npkash...@gmail.com wrote: is it open for people of all religion. -- Regards, Nishant Prakash Kashyap WTF x 100 How one can frame such a stupid question. This is the most irritating mail I ever read in my whole life. Hereby I request to award Rotten Potato Award to Mr Nishant. -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ -- Regards, Nishant Prakash Kashyap ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Website Designing Basic class in Jamia Millia Islamia
On Saturday 14 Aug 2010, Nishant Prakash Kashyap wrote: I dont care a damm for your comment. I know, you think you own this forum... you get irritated very fast when people take lead. You want that every people in this forum call you sir , sir... narendra sir. and when someone disagrees. Its a pity that people think there only one knowlegable in Delhi. Nishant, your response was in very poor taste, added no value to the conversation and reeked of communalism. Please stop abusing people who try to point that out to you, and try to give value back to the list. And, if you have nothing to say, please don't say it here. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Website Designing Basic class in Jamia Millia Islamia
Please cool down everybody. and read below. On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Nishant Prakash Kashyap npkash...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Nishant Prakash Kashyap npkash...@gmail.com wrote: is it open for people of all religion. Nishant, are you sure religion in above line is correct, and is not a typing mistake or loose click on suggestions given by spell check? If not, then what is the purpose of this question? -- H.S.Rai ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Website Designing Basic class in Jamia Millia Islamia
H S Rai, Now thats what i call real humor. Regards On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 9:38 AM, H.S.Rai hardeep@gmail.com wrote: Please cool down everybody. and read below. On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Nishant Prakash Kashyap npkash...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Nishant Prakash Kashyap npkash...@gmail.com wrote: is it open for people of all religion. Nishant, are you sure religion in above line is correct, and is not a typing mistake or loose click on suggestions given by spell check? If not, then what is the purpose of this question? -- H.S.Rai ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd H S Rai, Now thats what i call real humor. -- Regards, Nishant Prakash Kashyap ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
