Re: [ilugd] [...@iitd:10396] Want to start a Library for FOSS books
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: I want to start a Library for FOSS books, But the basic math says this is a difficult task.. A decent 3 room sized place will cost around 15,000 - 20,000 per month. a care taker with 5000 per month . total operational cost is 25,000 * 12 = 3 Lakh per annum. If we assume 3000 per annum as fee then I atleast need 300 student , (100 student per room :P ) So I want your feed back that what is the most suitable place in delhi where we can have maximum participation and How many student really turnup for this type of activity. Also, if I assume 30 student at 2000 per annum then this will yield 60,000/12 = 5000 per month. one such initiative is already on http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=131953620168994 do try to collaborate . -Satya ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [...@iitd:10396] Want to start a Library for FOSS books
On 11/17/2010 08:02 AM, satyaakam goswami wrote: I want to start a Library for FOSS books, But the basic math says this is a difficult task.. one such initiative is already on http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=131953620168994 do try to collaborate I am intrigued why there is an interest in physical books these days. Pretty much everywhere I look ( from the Pasteur Institute in Paris to the UCL and Kings College here in London ) the libraries are all scaling back, dropping periodicals in physical media and moving to digital formats. Even most course-ware is preferred in digital formats these days. The Pasteur institute has even gone to the extent of reducing to almost half their library floor space! I don't mean to be negative, but just wondering what the state of play in Delhi is at the moment. - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] SOLVED : No sound in HP Mini
Earlier I had reported that everything works fine in HP Mini notebook but sound in firefox while visiting sites like youtube etc. It turned out that since I had migrated my home directory from earlier version of Ubuntu I had to delete .asoundrc file and .marcomedia .adobe directories. Thereafter I had to log out and login again to get the sound working perfectly in applications like youtube etc.. The interesting part and pointer to the likely problem source was that a new user created on the same machine could get everything working. -- Regards, Sudev Barar Read http://blog.sudev.in for topics ranging from here to there. PS: Replying using bottom post/in-line post makes email conversations whole lot easier for meaningful dialogue. Snip out what is not relevant. Adopt this and spread the message. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [...@iitd:10396] Want to start a Library for FOSS books
On Wednesday 17 Nov 2010, Karanbir Singh wrote: I am intrigued why there is an interest in physical books these days. Pretty much everywhere I look ( from the Pasteur Institute in Paris to the UCL and Kings College here in London ) the libraries are all scaling back, dropping periodicals in physical media and moving to digital formats. Even most course-ware is preferred in digital formats these days. The Pasteur institute has even gone to the extent of reducing to almost half their library floor space! I don't mean to be negative, but just wondering what the state of play in Delhi is at the moment. I'm old-fashioned (or maybe just old) but I still find it much easier to read on paper than on a display. It'll be a sad day when all you can get is digitised books, unless digital paper technology has advanced at least a few order of magnitude by then. Regards, -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [...@iitd:10396] Want to start a Library for FOSS books
snip I'm old-fashioned (or maybe just old) but I still find it much easier to read on paper than on a display. It'll be a sad day when all you can get is digitised books, unless digital paper technology has advanced at least a few order of magnitude by then. /snip Try kindle. Regards, Gaurav Mishra # Blog: http://www.gmishra.com # Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/gmishra # LinkedIn:http://www.linkedin.com/in/gauravmishra7 ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [...@iitd:10396] Want to start a Library for FOSS books
On 11/17/2010 12:20 PM, Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) wrote: I'm old-fashioned (or maybe just old) but I still find it much easier to read on paper than on a display. It'll be a sad day when all you can get is digitised books, unless digital paper technology has advanced at least a few order of magnitude by then. Have you seen the latest generation readers ? eg. the BN Nook or Amazon's Kindle3 ? I've been using the new amazon kindle3 for about 2 months now - and its quite nice - zero eye strain ( just about as comfortable to read over long durations as regular paper ). As long as they can make it possible to resell books and lend books to other people, I dont see myself going back to buying a paper book anymore ( as long as the epaper version exists ). - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [...@iitd:10396] Want to start a Library for FOSS books
[snip all kindle love] I don't know but eReaders are just not for everyone yet. I don't like holding that device in my hand as much as I like holding a book. The buttons are all clumsy to press in my opinion compared to flipping through book pages. The page transitions are annoying too. I am not sure of how the DRM is working on these devices and kindle doesn't have a memory card slot afaik. To each his own though. I am pretty sure this technology will make us love it more in the future. With advances like the Qualcomm Mirasol display [1], things will eventually digitize completely. --- n9986 [1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1xEuR2mLh8feature=player_embedded ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [...@iitd:10396] Want to start a Library for FOSS books
On Wednesday 17 Nov 2010, Karanbir Singh wrote: On 11/17/2010 12:20 PM, Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) wrote: I'm old-fashioned (or maybe just old) but I still find it much easier to read on paper than on a display. It'll be a sad day when all you can get is digitised books, unless digital paper technology has advanced at least a few order of magnitude by then. Have you seen the latest generation readers ? eg. the BN Nook or Amazon's Kindle3 ? I've been using the new amazon kindle3 for about 2 months now - and its quite nice - zero eye strain ( just about as comfortable to read over long durations as regular paper ). As long as they can make it possible to resell books and lend books to other people, I dont see myself going back to buying a paper book anymore ( as long as the epaper version exists ). Well, the Kindle and its brethren are out anyway for me due to DRM. Apart from that, I'll switch when the e-paper becomes as thick and as flexible as, say, a 8-page newspaper supplement. This is going seriously OT, so I don't want to start listing out all the things you can do w/ books that you can't with e-paper (or vice versa, for that matter). Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [...@iitd:10396] Want to start a Library for FOSS books
Hi, On 11/17/2010 01:20 PM, Nandeep Mali wrote: I don't know but eReaders are just not for everyone yet. I don't like I dont think the ebook readers are really a 1:1 match with the reason for decline in library size's and content. Its more of a case of what content, and how its consumed. Conventional non-reference or tech books fulfilled a different requirement niche in the past. Ref and Tech books now carry content that is easily replaced elsewhere. Periodicals have their own contention with usage patterns and requirements. - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] SOLVED : No sound in HP Mini
Earlier I had reported that everything works fine in HP Mini notebook but sound in firefox while visiting sites like youtube etc. It turned out that since I had migrated my home directory from earlier version of Ubuntu I had to delete .asoundrc file and .marcomedia .adobe directories. Thereafter I had to log out and login again to get the sound working perfectly in applications like youtube etc.. The interesting part and pointer to the likely problem source was that a new user created on the same machine could get everything working. HP Mini supports PCBSD 8.0 perfectly. No issues at all. Mohit Singh ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [...@iitd:10396] Want to start a Library for FOSS books
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 07:45:13PM +0530, Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) wrote: Well, the Kindle and its brethren are out anyway for me due to DRM. You mean the *Amazon Kindle Store* content is out because of DRM. If you think of Kindle as just a personal electronic device, just like your mobile or mp3 player, it works too. You don't have to buy Amazon Kindle content with DRM to use it. I buy DRM free content from Pragmatic and Oreilly all the time and copy it to Kindle using the FOSS software Calibre. You can read all of the free books on Gutenberg on Kindle by using the mobi format, and Calibre can even convert epubs to mobi formats for you to read on the Kindle. As Karanbir said, once you start reading on the Kindle, you would find it difficult to go back. Of course, not all physical book reading experiences transfer to Kindle - it is not so good at random access. But overall, you wouldn't have issue with the transition. - Sandip ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [...@iitd:10396] Want to start a Library for FOSS books
can I read html, text, PDF files of my own? -- GN ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [...@iitd:10396] Want to start a Library for FOSS books
2010/11/18 Nagarjuna G nagar...@gnowledge.org: can I read html, text, PDF files of my own? The Kindle or, any other ebook reader for that matter supports a set of file formats. Is your question specific to whether you can transfer self-published content to the device and read ? If that is the question then yes, if you are converting it to the format supported by the device. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] LVM and ext3 size relationship
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Sirtaj Singh Kang sir...@sirtaj.netwrote: On 11/17/2010 10:57 AM, Rakesh Kumar wrote: [snip] Great to know this because i have never seen this ever. But i want to know one thing that when i studied this, found that we keep this size bigger because of metadata. And if it is correct metadata will increase with the size of PV and VG then how can a specific formula be derived. The PV and VG are irrelevant here, the goal is to find out how much logical ext3fs capacity we get from a raw block device of a certain size. When creating an LV we get a block device, ext3fs doesn't care whether it's an LV or a raw disk partition. Note that lvextend increases only the _unformatted_ capacity. So if you extend by 2G, the useful capacity you get for new files on the ext3 filesystem on that volume is approximately 1.58% less than 2G due to ext3fs overhead. OK that's why you derived this 1*1.0158. Thanks for posting such an useful formula, -Taj. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd -- Regards RAKESH Allow Your Own Inner Light to Guide You ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [...@iitd:10396] Want to start a Library for FOSS books
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:38 AM, sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/11/18 Nagarjuna G nagar...@gnowledge.org: can I read html, text, PDF files of my own? The Kindle or, any other ebook reader for that matter supports a set of file formats. Is your question specific to whether you can transfer self-published content to the device and read ? If that is the question then yes, if you are converting it to the format supported by the device. The best ebook format is epub (for blind people .txt may be easier to use). Kindle does not support epub. Reading on 19 inch + screens is also a good idea for almost all formats. Digital libraries should have content in multiple open formats. Best A. Mani -- A. Mani ASL, CLC, AMS, CMS http://www.logicamani.co.cc ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
