Re: [ilugd] M.Sc. CS-FOSS online distance education programme
On Thursday, March 21, 2013, Biju Balakrishnan wrote: Hi, cant find the syllabus. Who is the programme for? what all will be covered? would like to get these insights before even looking into it. *Biju * Pl visit 115.249.106.147/mscfoss/ and the menu items on curricula and syllabus for course details. Other menus give background etc. The programme targets working/non-working science and comp science graduates - B.Sc, B.C.A though B.E. graduates have also taken it up. Essentially a computer science course --language, database, networking, dev practices, etc. -- with focus on only FOSS tools and packages. Srinivasan ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Shocking and Sad news.
sudden and shocking. raj mathur and gora mohanty were my main links with ilug-d. though i have not been interacting much, i was planning to call on them when BOSS 5.0 gets released and interact with all re govt tenders, school projects. as narendra said, first KG and now Raj. while we can't fill the void, their memories might enthuse more persons and make us more active. Srinivasan CDAC Chennai. On 12/13/12, Gaurav Paliwal gaurav.paliwal1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Kishore Bhargava kish...@linkaxis.comwrote: 12-12-12. What a very very sad day. We lost a very dear friend, Raj Mathur. People who knew and have met Raj will always remember him as a lively and humourous person - brutally honest and a man of principles. Raj was a founder member of the Indian Linux Users Group and a very active member of the Free and Open Source community. Well respected and extremely knowledgable, he was often sought after for advice which he readily dispersed. Raj loved to have fun and encouraged everyone around him to do the same. He loved his food, his movies, his music and being with friends and family. A brilliant hacker and much respected for his pioneering work, he will be missed by one and all. Rest in peace, Raj Oldmonk Mathur. He was a great source of inspiration for a lot of people on this mailing list. I meet him once during one of the ILUGD meeting. He will be definitely missed. RIP oldmonk :( . -- With Regards, Gaurav Paliwal http://gauravpaliwal.com ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Robot programming in CBSE international curriculum
hi all, CBSE has introduced the chapter Programming a Robo in their international curriculum for IX X, with the following topics : 1. ROBO Assembly 2. Programming a ROBO 3. TeProgramming a Robosting debugging. 4. Prepare your ROBO Manual with applications. The learning objectives are : Assembling a ROBO Programming a ROBO. Testing and debugging a ROBO. While there are proprietary packages tools in these topics, there is an interest to recommend FOSS based tools/packages/materials. [CBSE has an objective to make the teaching-learning platform independent and had introduced Linux, MySQL, etc., in the curriculum for ICT]. I would request those interested** -- with some expertise exposure -- to give suggestions re FOSS packages and tools. I would also like to have an interaction with them and would request them to contact me, preferably off the mailing list, thru my gmail id : srini dot it at gmail dot com thanks and best wishes Srinivasan Dr. S. Srinivasan Project Scientist CDAC Chennai. ** please feel free to pass this msg to other mail lists. thanks, srinivasan. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] FOSS in Indian University curricula
dear friends : as you might be aware, NRCFOSS worked with Anna Univ to get two FOSS electives in the curriculum since 2006. So far, about 3000 students have taken the courses successfully in B.E. (Comp Science), B.Tech (Information Technology) and MCA. Anna Univ Coimbatore will be having FOSS as core paper in 3rd in B.E., an offshoot of this exercise was to get institutions like Jaya Engg College which -- thanks to the sustained support from LUG other FOSS enthusiasts -- have made greater impact on the growth of FOSS. FOSS electives have been approved in Shivaji University, Kolhapur Rajasthan Tech Univ. Final year B.E. CSE Networking labs in UP Tech Univ are tuned to run on FOSS platform. Punjab Tech Univ a host of others are in the process of introducing FOSS. FOSS subjects -- especially Linux, Python -- have also found their way into the non-engg currirula, especially Biotechnology. Of course, many colleges/univ have got linux as one of the papers (some time a regular one, often for a term or so depending on the efforts enthusiasm of the concerned staff member). I would appreciate if you could send me the copies of / links to FOSS subject offered in the curricula. I also welcome related suggestion / queries. As part of my official duty at NRCFOSS, the syllabus info will be updated in the NRCFOSS portal HRD page ; we have also been involvin local FOSS community as and when efforts are made to interact with the various academic entities. the info can be sent to* : srinivas...@cdac.inand/orsrini.it@ gmail.com thanks and best wishes Srinivasan * CDAC Chennai is moving into new premises inside Tidel Park. Hence the NRCFOSS / BOSS portals are down. Once they are activated, I will update the available info in the HRD page, and send the link thru the LUG group mail. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] AICTE, FOSS and us
dear mohit: i agree that AICTE and other teams are generally happy with proprietary software, and more often than not FOSS is not acknowledged. However, there are a few trying to bring the FOSS culture (Dr. Sivakumar, Dr. Phatak, Dr. Prabhu Ramachandran, etc. of IIT Mumbai, Dr. Om Vikas and Dr. Manoj Gaur of MNNIT Jaipur, etc., to name a few). when we were introducing FOSS in the Anna University curriculum, and pitching for FOSS equivalents to be listed for lab courses, the VC asked a simple question : can you assure me that the software you suggest has been tested to meet the requirements and relevant lab manuals prepared, can it be installed worked on comfortably, will there be support for training the staff to handle these software ... Of course, this was 4-5 years back and things have changed tremendously, but much more need to be done. Please remember : a college chairman will be happy to ANNOUNCE that they are spending 10 crores on software and not 10 lakhs. [My colleagues at NRCFOSS were told by a management that they can afford the cost!!!]. Our take should be more on knowledge/learning/practice, rather than cost. Even stuff like licensing, piracy won't work given the ethical scenario, but virus may be a good point to talk about. A number of colleges use FOSS alternatives in the lab. You yourself have managed to introduced FOSS in the UP Tech computer lab (how is it going? do the lecturers need support?). A set of distros have been released (and some work is still on) with FOSS equivalents running on linux platform for lab. At NRCFOSS we got a group of students staff to run EIE, ECE, ELE experiments for B.E to run using Scilab Octave, instead of Matlab -- and a sort of manual is ready (which i have been sharing with many). However, all these efforts are distributed and sporadic. Instead of claiming that proprietary should be REPLACED with FOSS, we can be more successful if both are listed in the curriculum, to start with. We also need to gather the info about the FOSS usage in labs in a more cohesive manner, and take up the issue in various fora. An exercise we plan to take for next release of BOSS is to gather the various engg egov software and test them to run on BOSS. We could also use the NRCFOSS/BOSS websites to highlight the FOSS alternatives -- the is outdated as of now and is being revamped ; i would also like to provide links to other sites, especially in India where the software support persons are available. Am looking forward to more interactions and will update the list with some of the action steps being planned. I also welcome comments/suggestions. [CDAC Chennai is moving into a new building and the NRCFOSS/BOSS portals are down for the time being. Will alert you all as soon as they are up]. Please excuse me for the long msg. Will try to come up with short msgs with specific steps. thanks, srinivasan. Dr. S. Srinivasan Project Scientist NRCFOSS @ CDAC - Chennai email: srinivas...@cdac.in srini...@gmail.in cell: 94443 02439 ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Possible Workshop at NIT Jaipur
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Nandeep Mali n9986.m...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, An update on this. There was almost nil response (in fact just one) for speakers for this event. But we will still be going ahead with the workshop with the help of LUG-Jaipur members. It will be a hands on workshop with only coding. A more of a hackathon. Thanks and Kind Regards Nandeep __ In case it is not already done, you could consider involving Dr. Manoj Joshi , Dept of CSE, in this event. Apart from nurturing open source at NIT Jaipur, he has been advocating use of FOSS alternatives in engg colleges (he visits many of them as part of AICTE evaluation team). all the best for the event. Srinivasan. Dr. S. Srinivasan Project Scientist, NRCFOSS C-DAC Chennai. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] NRCFOSS CDAC BOSS Linux Workshop
hi all: am thankful to satyaakam for drawing my attention to the ILUG-D discussion thread on this topic. since i am a new entrant to the list, i hope you will bear with me for starting this as a new msg, instead of reply to the existing thread. would like to share the following brief info about the NRCFOSS / BOSS workshops. - “FOSS Demystified” workshops -- organized by C-DAC BOSS Centres So far held in Bengaluru (15th Jul), Noida (29 Jul – in Delhi), Mohali (31st Jul), Hyderabad (5th Aug), Thiruvananthapuram (12th Aug), Kolkata (19th Aug) and Delhi (26th Aug). There will be one in Mumbai (15th Sep) and the last of the series in Chennai (23rd Sep is the likely date). Target group : mainly Government officials, but participants have also been from academia from other groups. General agenda : FOSS overview, demo of BOSS distro, a brief presentation on BOSS deployment done (e.g., at Palakkad dist/taluk offices, Chattisgarh - CHOICE (Chattisgarh Online Information System for Citizen Empowerment) project, etc.) The main idea is to create an awarness about FOSS and entice them to look for FOSS-based solutions. At some of these workshop, Inaugural / key note address by eminent persons (to make an impact on the participants) : e.g., Niyam Bhushan at Mohali ; Dr Debesh Das, Min.-in-C of IT, Govt. of West Bengal ; Prof Srivatsan, Pro-Vice Chancellor, IGNOU ; DG, NIC ; Shri Sitaram Chamarty, TCS Hyderabad with best wishes Srinivasan. Dr. S. Srinivasan Project Scientist, NRCFOSS C-DAC Chennai srinivas...@cdac.in http://webmail.cdac.in/twig/index.php?s%5Bmailbox%5D=mail%2Fsent-mails%5BmailGroup%5D=%2As%5Bmail_startmsg%5D=1s%5Bsortby%5D=dates%5Bsortbyway%5D=1s%5Bdelete-return%5D=msgviews%5Bmailtree%5D=0%7Cc%5Bf%5D=mailc%5Ba%5D=composeform%5bto%5d=srinivas...@cdac.in 94443 02439 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] BOSS on ILUGD list -- sharing a few thoughts
hi all: would like to share some thoughts -- with you, and thru you with ILUG-D members -- in the light of the exchanges at ILUG-D on BOSS. I wouldn't put this as a clarification or official response, but more as an exchange of information / perspective. I hope this will lead to cohesion contribution to/from BOSS efforts. 1. Thanks to Nishant, Nalin, etc. for their appreciative sentiments, and to Karanbir, Kartik, Raj Mathur and others for their frank opinions. 2. Attn.: Manu Mohan : the workshops are targeted primarily at govt staff. We also have plans to support / organize a few sessions focusing on Academic segment. The FOSS in Higher Education, is in fact the major activity of NRCFOSS at AU-KBC Research Centre (for which Satyaakam is one of the key persons). 3. BOSS distro : Both binary the source code (with allied stuff) are available from the repository http://bosslinux.in/downloads 4. Indian language localisation : The .po files files, keyboard layouts, etc., are available at http://downloads.bosslinux.in/Localisation/ As vikram pointed out, the community will have to decide whether it is acceptable or not. I had some brief exchanges with Karunakar and Gora, and hope to get some focussed action in the near future. 5. There are a few packages like Bulk Document Converter, Presentation Tool, etc. -- integrated with BOSS distro, but could be candidates for stand alone packages. 6. Help Desk -- toll free number 1 800 4250 455 is operative from C-DAC Chennai Centre. Currently, there are 4-5 persons responding to queries during office working hours (10 - 5, mon-fri) catering to queries -- in Eng, Hindi, Tamil, Malayalam, Telugu and Kannada. Mostly, the queries are requests for BOSS CDs/DVDs and on installation issues. bossli...@cdac.in http://webmail.cdac.in/twig/index.php?s%5Bmailbox%5D=mail%2Fsent-mails%5BmailGroup%5D=%2As%5Bmail_startmsg%5D=1s%5Bsortby%5D=dates%5Bsortbyway%5D=1s%5Bdelete-return%5D=msgviews%5Bmailtree%5D=0%7Cc%5Bf%5D=mailc%5Ba%5D=composeform%5bto%5d=bossli...@cdac.in is the email id for sending quries. thanks and best wishes Srinivasan. Dr. S. Srinivasan Project Scientist, NRCFOSS C-DAC Chennai srinivas...@cdac.in http://webmail.cdac.in/twig/index.php?s%5Bmailbox%5D=mail%2Fsent-mails%5BmailGroup%5D=%2As%5Bmail_startmsg%5D=1s%5Bsortby%5D=dates%5Bsortbyway%5D=1s%5Bdelete-return%5D=msgviews%5Bmailtree%5D=0%7Cc%5Bf%5D=mailc%5Ba%5D=composeform%5bto%5d=srinivas...@cdac.in 94443 02439 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] BOSS on ILUGD list -- sharing a few thoughts
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Raj Mathur r...@linux-delhi.org wrote: This is great, and I for one am glad to see the BOSS Linux team interacting with the community on a peer basis. Hope this can help move both BOSS and FOSS (pun unintended) in India forward. thanks. BOSS was the mandate for NRCFOSS Phase I. In Phase II the focus is expected to be more on applications, along with stabilisation of BOSS as a distro. 4. Indian language localisation : The .po files files, keyboard Not an expert in these matters, me too !! but AFAIR the issue was with font licensing (open to correction). Would it help if we open a Wiki page where people can list out perceived issues with BOSS Linux (from the community/FOSS point of view), which we could then collate and discuss? please do open a wiki page. at best we can consolidate the issues -- in the true FOSS spirit, bugs could be identified so that some way to solve them (at worst isolate them) could emerge. 5. There are a few packages like Bulk Document Converter, Presentation Tool, etc. -- integrated with BOSS distro, but could be candidates for stand alone packages. What licences are these available under? If they aren't already, please consider making them FOSS so everyone (including BOSS users) can benefit from community participation and the momentum that brings to any software. BOSS being a purely Indian distribution is likely to see a lot of traction from the community here, most of whom would support and advocate an Indian Linux distribution if some minor thorns were pulled out. will work on these aspecs. Srinivasan Project Scientist, CDAC/NRCFOSS ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] BOSS on ILUGD list -- sharing a few thoughts
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Kartik Mistry kartik.mis...@gmail.comwrote: 4. Indian language localisation : The .po files files, keyboard layouts, etc., are available at http://downloads.bosslinux.in/Localisation/ Are you ready to take feedback (positive or negative)? i am looking at two action steps, to begin with : a) pick up a set of .po files (translated strings) from C-DAC output * get it vetted / evaluated by the concerned community expert * the feed back (positive / negative) will enable knowledge update of our team * of course, there might be some difference of opinion in some cases -- I understand that we are expected to follow the state govt authorised dictionary. but i look at it as an opportunity, to talk to the state govt experts. [am yet to sit with mr vasudevan -- i thought i will begin with tamil] b) involve the community contributors (to which we can add persons whom we get in touch with thru our academic and other interactions) anyway, i will try to get this going thru the indlinux channel. 5. There are a few packages like Bulk Document Converter, Presentation Tool, etc. -- These tools can be great aid as contribution to community. Someone started working on it, but it did not go through Debian standards/procedures. See: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=497399 (I am still ready to help, ball is in your court!) thanks for the offer. will try to get back to you as soon as possible. Is IRC still active. Most developers will be comfortable with IRC/Mailing List rather than call. But, this is very useful to users. IRC is alive. The phase changes (NRCFOSS from I to II, BOSS Support Project, etc.), the internal attritions, and usual attrition / transfer / internal workload had contributed to subdued (if not totally mute) interactions. i have been primarily been drafted in to ensure interfacing with external agencies. will strive to do a reasonable job, at least. with best wishes srinivasan. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
