Re: [ilugd] DoT wants verification of Internet users online

2009-10-27 Thread Mehul Ved
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:45 AM, Nishant Sharma
codemarau...@yahoo.co.in wrote:
 Hi,

 Found this news on Rediff:
 http://business.rediff.com/report/2009/oct/26/verify-internet-users-online-says-dot.htm

Not exactly to the same thing but in line with the above news.
Few months ago my ISP, Hathway, did send a notice to everyone to
provide details about their wireless routers, if they are using one.
According to the notice, they were doing it on the basis of a TRAI
directive. I refused to divulge the details of my wireless router till
they sent me a copy of the TRAI directive stating the same. They
couldn't provide me with the same and disconnected my connection for a
while, till I called up their customer care and asked to refund my
money for the month as they had disconnected my connection. After that
it was promptly started and I haven't heard from them again.

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Re: [ilugd] DoT wants verification of Internet users online

2009-10-27 Thread PJ
Nishant Sharma codemarau...@... writes:

[from the news]
 Aiming at preventing the misuse of Wi-Fi connectivity by unauthorised users,
the department of
 telecommunications has directed all telecom service providers to implement an
online centralised
 authentication procedure for Internet subscribers.

Sounds like a reaction to one of the Bombay attacks where an American had an
open wifi that was used to send a terrorist message by a bomb conspirator.

That the American fled the country rather than waiting for the courts to declare
his innocence says plenty about the Indian court system.

(That he managed to flee the country despite being watched says a lot about the
state of India generally too, of course).

From the report, it seems the open wifi problem is still going to be around (it
isn't dealt with by the measure). Centralized authentication (?) isn't solving
authentication or location-of-subscriber better than current authentication
methods either. They must mean centralized logging rather than authentication,
that's my guess.

Anyway, the centralized authentication procedure (or whatever it really ends
up being), like many India systems, well need proper accountability built in to
the process to prevent its abuse.

Eg:

Mohammed! You are the registered owner of this connection from where a claim of
responsibility for the recent bomb blast originated!

But I haven't claimed that and I am the only person using the connection, and
my system is heavily secured! There's no way it can be originating from me!

OK, then, just pay me 25 lakh and we'll forget about it. Else I'll grind you
and your beard through the courts and everyone will think you're a terrorist.

PJ

(hmmm. spooky correlations, with these captchas sometimes. This one was
radicalism)



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Re: [ilugd] DoT wants verification of Internet users online

2009-10-27 Thread Tanveer Singh
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:34 PM, PJ pee...@hotpop.com wrote:

 Nishant Sharma codemarau...@... writes:

 [from the news]
  Aiming at preventing the misuse of Wi-Fi connectivity by unauthorised
 users,
 the department of
  telecommunications has directed all telecom service providers to
 implement an
 online centralised
  authentication procedure for Internet subscribers.

 Sounds like a reaction to one of the Bombay attacks where an American had
 an
 open wifi that was used to send a terrorist message by a bomb conspirator.

 I am with the decision. Its excellent. Going by the fundamental right of
equality this should be enforced for everybody. So you should no longer be
allowed to put a letter in the letter box without verification.
All post should be registered post.
Since people can speak and communicate, before uttering a word, police
verification should be done too!
 Welcome to 1984
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[ilugd] DoT wants verification of Internet users online

2009-10-26 Thread Nishant Sharma
Hi,

Found this news on Rediff: 
http://business.rediff.com/report/2009/oct/26/verify-internet-users-online-says-dot.htm

Although, I could not find anything on DoT's website, here is what mentioned in 
the news:

quote
Aiming at preventing the misuse of Wi-Fi connectivity by unauthorised users, 
the department of telecommunications has directed all telecom service providers 
to implement an online centralised authentication procedure for Internet 
subscribers.

In a notification on its website, DoT said all Internet and broadband 
subscribers using Wi-fi connectivity would need to get themselves registered 
with the respective telecom service providers for completing the centralised 
authentication procedure within 60 days.

The department had said insecure Wi-Fi networks were capable of being misused 
without any trail of a user at a later date. In order to address this issue, it 
had asked all Internet service providers to follow certain procedures for 
secure use of Wi-Fi services under delicensed frequency band.
/quote

Any idea how could an ISP do a centralised authentication for wi-fi users 
online when user has put his/her own wireless router behind the CPE?

Or, they want to implement it the Reliance Broadband way where one has to login 
to the web portal before browsing? 

regards,
Nishant
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