[ilugd] FOSS booklets ,

2009-10-13 Thread narendra sisodiya
May ILUGD and Sarai members give us the link to some
articles/tutorials/booklet which you feel suitable to distribute on
Introductory Course Material for FOSS workshops in new Engg colleges.
If anybody has such booklet ,, Also the initial thought in my mind for
giving these contents, Please feel free to add topics

* 3 Principles
** Collaboration, Community, Sharing
* Free Software and Open Source Software
** History, concept and progess
* What is evil technology
** software patents, close source software, close formats, ,
* Why is Open Standards and File Formats
** why use open office and html5 etc
* What is Creative Commons
** How and Why
* FOSS tools and applications for Engineers
** long list.,,
* Programming under GNU/Linux environments
** ???

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Re: [ilugd] FOSS booklets ,

2009-10-13 Thread Nalin Savara
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:42 PM, narendra sisodiya 
narendra.sisod...@gmail.com wrote:

 May ILUGD and Sarai members give us the link to some
 articles/tutorials/booklet which you feel suitable to distribute on
 Introductory Course Material for FOSS workshops in new Engg colleges.
 If anybody has such booklet ,, Also the initial thought in my mind for
 giving these contents, Please feel free to add topics

 * 3 Principles
 ** Collaboration, Community, Sharing


snip

Quick question; why not have the booklet in hypertext (HTML) format and
online-- with a shortened URL ?

And a embedded link to Google Translate service-- that will save a lot of
the hassles of paper booklets-- and people not strong in english can even
see translations in hindi, and other languages ?

Will help solve a lot of limitations of paper-- and will also be
environmentally friendly...

You could just collect the attendee list-- and mail them the URL-- and also
have tell a friend link on each page.

What say ???

Regards,

NS
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Re: [ilugd] FOSS booklets ,

2009-10-13 Thread Nandeep Mali
 On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:42 PM, narendra sisodiya 
 narendra.sisod...@gmail.com wrote:

 May ILUGD and Sarai members give us the link to some
 articles/tutorials/booklet which you feel suitable to distribute on
 Introductory Course Material for FOSS workshops in new Engg colleges.
 If anybody has such booklet ,, Also the initial thought in my mind for
 giving these contents, Please feel free to add topics

There have been a couple of booklets in the pipeline at Sarai related
to this. A couple of publications on How to Localize and Pocket Linux
are also in the queue (by Rajesh Ranjan and Ravishankar Shrivastava
respectively).

We also had one booklet on general FLOSS philosophy already completed
(though we had run out of them). Let me see if I can find more copies
of them at Sarai.

If you have some wiki link we can add some potential topics there.

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Nalin Savara nsn...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
 And a embedded link to Google Translate service-- that will save a lot of
 the hassles of paper booklets-- and people not strong in english can even
 see translations in hindi, and other languages ?

In my opinion Google Translate is very bad for translating entire
articles. The grammar etc. gets botched up pretty bad. Its still
nowhere a replacement for a properly localized text (i.e. by a human).

 Will help solve a lot of limitations of paper-- and will also be
 environmentally friendly...

That might be true but distributing booklets cannot be considered less
effective than internet. At least IMHO. I'll still prefer a book over
an HTML link handed out to me. Why not have both?

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Re: [ilugd] FOSS booklets ,

2009-10-13 Thread Nalin Savara
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Nandeep Mali n9986.m...@gmail.com wrote:


  On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:42 PM, narendra sisodiya 
  narendra.sisod...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  May ILUGD and Sarai members give us the link to some
 That might be true but distributing booklets cannot be considered less
 effective than internet. At least IMHO. I'll still prefer a book over
 an HTML link handed out to me. Why not have both?

 ---


to save trees.

Could instead hand over stickers with the URL printed on them.

Regards,

NS
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Re: [ilugd] FOSS booklets ,

2009-10-13 Thread narendra sisodiya
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Nalin Savara nsn...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:42 PM, narendra sisodiya 
 narendra.sisod...@gmail.com wrote:

 May ILUGD and Sarai members give us the link to some
 articles/tutorials/booklet which you feel suitable to distribute on
 Introductory Course Material for FOSS workshops in new Engg colleges.
 If anybody has such booklet ,, Also the initial thought in my mind for
 giving these contents, Please feel free to add topics

 * 3 Principles
 ** Collaboration, Community, Sharing


 snip

 Quick question; why not have the booklet in hypertext (HTML) format and
 online-- with a shortened URL ?

Good Question :
Ans :  not everybody use internet and nobody can get all the concepts
all at once so it is better to give surface idea in workshop and the
let them read the booklets. Learning over Internet is not possible for
all and Learning over web is full of distractions as we use to open
facebook youtube, gmail while learning.
If we distribute our thought and vision on paper then other can read
in free time with full attention. we can donate such booklets in
libraries so that that booklets become the red paper of revolution.
I treating this as a paradigm shift and more like a freedom fight,
For every fight , It is very essential to spread out voice and our
thought process to very public
The other media where we should spread our voice

** Newspaper Articles
** Library Books and handy booklets
** Public Poster
** Videos and Documentary Films



 And a embedded link to Google Translate service-- that will save a lot of
 the hassles of paper booklets-- and people not strong in english can even
 see translations in hindi, and other languages ?

 Will help solve a lot of limitations of paper-- and will also be
 environmentally friendly...

 You could just collect the attendee list-- and mail them the URL-- and also
 have tell a friend link on each page.

 What say ???
This is a good idea but we should not stick with web only. We need to
reach public from other media also.

 Regards,

 NS
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Re: [ilugd] FOSS booklets ,

2009-10-13 Thread narendra sisodiya
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 12:08 PM, narendra sisodiya
narendra.sisod...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Nalin Savara nsn...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:42 PM, narendra sisodiya 
 narendra.sisod...@gmail.com wrote:

 May ILUGD and Sarai members give us the link to some
 articles/tutorials/booklet which you feel suitable to distribute on
 Introductory Course Material for FOSS workshops in new Engg colleges.
 If anybody has such booklet ,, Also the initial thought in my mind for
 giving these contents, Please feel free to add topics

 * 3 Principles
 ** Collaboration, Community, Sharing


 snip

 Quick question; why not have the booklet in hypertext (HTML) format and
 online-- with a shortened URL ?

 Good Question :
 Ans :  not everybody use internet and nobody can get all the concepts
 all at once so it is better to give surface idea in workshop and the
 let them read the booklets. Learning over Internet is not possible for
 all and Learning over web is full of distractions as we use to open
 facebook youtube, gmail while learning.
 If we distribute our thought and vision on paper then other can read
 in free time with full attention. we can donate such booklets in
 libraries so that that booklets become the red paper of revolution.
 I treating this as a paradigm shift and more like a freedom fight,
 For every fight , It is very essential to spread out voice and our
 thought process to very public
 The other media where we should spread our voice

 ** Newspaper Articles
 ** Library Books and handy booklets
 ** Public Poster
 ** Videos and Documentary Films

In Short : We should keep this as a revolution and we need to learn
from the history that how and why revolution's took place in history
when we were not having Internet.

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Re: [ilugd] FOSS booklets ,

2009-10-13 Thread Manu K Mohan
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Nalin Savara nsn...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Nandeep Mali n9986.m...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 
   On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:42 PM, narendra sisodiya 
   narendra.sisod...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   May ILUGD and Sarai members give us the link to some
  That might be true but distributing booklets cannot be considered less
  effective than internet. At least IMHO. I'll still prefer a book over
  an HTML link handed out to me. Why not have both?
 
  ---
 

 to save trees.

 Could instead hand over stickers with the URL printed on them.

 There are people who have less access to computers and internet. These
people should be targeted to spread the knowledge. Booklets will help these
people know about and FOSS and spread it.

For example
In my college days some of my juniors took an initiative to upload class
notes to their blogs. The purpose was to spread class notes to those who are
not much studious and fail to get it from their teachers. Still no much
people visited their blogs. It just reduced the efforts of studious
students. Then they took one print out and photocopied it and gave it to few
peoples. They spread it further to other students those who wanted it. The
result was 92% pass next semester. Only 5 people got arrears in that class.
 This will be the case of FOSS too if it is on paper.

 Regards,

 NS
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Re: [ilugd] FOSS booklets ,

2009-10-13 Thread narendra sisodiya
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Manu K Mohan manukn...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Nalin Savara nsn...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Nandeep Mali n9986.m...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 
   On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:42 PM, narendra sisodiya 
   narendra.sisod...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   May ILUGD and Sarai members give us the link to some
  That might be true but distributing booklets cannot be considered less
  effective than internet. At least IMHO. I'll still prefer a book over
  an HTML link handed out to me. Why not have both?
 
  ---
 

 to save trees.

 Could instead hand over stickers with the URL printed on them.

 There are people who have less access to computers and internet. These
 people should be targeted to spread the knowledge. Booklets will help these
 people know about and FOSS and spread it.

 For example
 In my college days some of my juniors took an initiative to upload class
 notes to their blogs. The purpose was to spread class notes to those who are
 not much studious and fail to get it from their teachers. Still no much
 people visited their blogs. It just reduced the efforts of studious
 students. Then they took one print out and photocopied it and gave it to few
 peoples. They spread it further to other students those who wanted it. The
 result was 92% pass next semester. Only 5 people got arrears in that class.
  This will be the case of FOSS too if it is on paper.

Always blog such short and good experience.
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Re: [ilugd] FOSS booklets ,

2009-10-13 Thread Manu K Mohan
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Manu K Mohan manukn...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Nalin Savara nsn...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Nandeep Mali n9986.m...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 
   On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:42 PM, narendra sisodiya 
   narendra.sisod...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   May ILUGD and Sarai members give us the link to some
  That might be true but distributing booklets cannot be considered less
  effective than internet. At least IMHO. I'll still prefer a book over
  an HTML link handed out to me. Why not have both?
 
  ---
 

 to save trees.

 Could instead hand over stickers with the URL printed on them.


A small article which says how Gandhiji's fight for freedom and press helped
to spread the knowledge to common man when there was no internet.
Similar way its another fight for freedom from proprietary softwares. Still
press has the same power.
http://manuknkra.wordpress.com/2009/10/02/another-struggle-of-freedom-for-india-follow-gandhiji/
http://manuknkra.wordpress.com/2009/10/02/another-struggle-of-freedom-for-india-follow-gandhiji/


 There are people who have less access to computers and internet. These
 people should be targeted to spread the knowledge. Booklets will help these
 people know about and FOSS and spread it.

 For example
 In my college days some of my juniors took an initiative to upload class
 notes to their blogs. The purpose was to spread class notes to those who are
 not much studious and fail to get it from their teachers. Still no much
 people visited their blogs. It just reduced the efforts of studious
 students. Then they took one print out and photocopied it and gave it to few
 peoples. They spread it further to other students those who wanted it. The
 result was 92% pass next semester. Only 5 people got arrears in that class.
  This will be the case of FOSS too if it is on paper.

 Regards,

 NS
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Re: [ilugd] FOSS booklets ,

2009-10-13 Thread A. Mani
narendra sisodiya narendra.sisod...@gmail.com wrote:

 May ILUGD and Sarai members give us the link to some
 articles/tutorials/booklet which you feel suitable to distribute on
 Introductory Course Material for FOSS workshops in new Engg colleges.
 If anybody has such booklet ,, Also the initial thought in my mind for
 giving these contents, Please feel free to add topics

For up to date manuals, see foss manuals, Ubuntu and Fedora sites at least

http://www.flossmanuals.net

The FM people make very effective use of objavi.

Best

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