Re: [ilugd] Forking a GPlv2 project

2009-04-06 Thread Karanbir Singh

hi Gaurav,

Gaurav Mishra wrote:

have you actually made contact with that person ? have you given that person
reasonable amount of time to respond  ?

What's the reasonable amount of time ?, 2 months is a good one IMO


yeah, I would agree that 2 months is plenty. Specially since, as you 
say, the person has been active in this timeframe on the same forums and 
lists where you posted the query. I guess report a reminder and in there 
say something to the effect of : I'd like to push my changes out, would 
you prefer a patch or should I setup a parallel tree / build and you can 
pull from there if you like.


If he/she does not come back with anything, setting up a parallel SCM 
repository and open up to community feedback / builds etc would be one 
way to go. That way you dont really fork the project, just make it more 
community friendly.


Do you intend to keep the same name for the codebase / project ? That 
might involve more of a dialog with the original author.



The project doesn't have a devel mailing list or a sorceforge/github
kinda account and even a published svn. No collabration at all.


Perhaps that would be the first thing to target then :)


Well the last release is 6 months old (Which is fine), He is still
replying to forums where i have posted the question of helping in
development of project. Hope he responds.


You also have the option of pushing patched builds right now... you dont 
really need to wait for a response indefinitely.



My question is more on what are the stuff that a person should take
care while forking a project !, The way i want to take this project
may be completely different from what he is planning (and this is fine
, because this is my need) , What should a person do so that he/she
can get proper valuation for the previous work he/she has done.?


Make sure you dont antagonise the person - to some level the person will 
feel it, but thats ok. Make sure you clearly state why you are doing 
what you are doing ( eg: you wanted certain functionality that isnt in 
the othe code base, and there is little or no interest from 
$originalAuthor to incorporate ), and try to stay community friendly. If 
you come down to the level of where 'you' want the project to go Vs 
where 'he' wanted the project to go - you are not improving the 
situation any. Build a timeline and milestone projections -then let 
people contribute whatever they might want.


In terms of valuation - given them the right credits they deserve.

btw what project is this ?


- KB

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Re: [ilugd] Forking a GPlv2 project

2009-04-02 Thread Gaurav Mishra
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 5:00 AM, Karanbir Singh  wrote:
> Gaurav Mishra wrote:
>>
>>   Recently i found a dead project that met my needs in a exact way !,
>> After
>> using it for few weeks and making a lot of changes and bug fixes , I
>> requested the mod to incorporate, communicate or atleast say hi to me , so
>> that i can know how he is planning to take on the project.
>>
>>  But it looked like he was very busy to get bothered.
>
> have you actually made contact with that person ? have you given that person
> reasonable amount of time to respond  ?

What's the reasonable amount of time ?, 2 months is a good one IMO

>did you use the 'accepted' mechanism
> of communication for that project ? remember most people do *not* want
> person email about project -devel stuff if there is a -devel related mailing
> list. While most people will be ok with it - quite a few are not, and thats
> a very fair situation to be in.
>

The project doesn't have a devel mailing list or a sorceforge/github
kinda account and even a published svn. No collabration at all.

> There is also a good chance that the person has moved on in life and isnt
> really maintaining that project anymore - in which case they might be very
> happy to move the code and the project to you and let you carry on managing
> it. There are quite a few projects out there that have this sort of a
> 'moving from person to person' situation, eg the mutt folder view patchset
> project, and even tinyproxy.
>

Well the last release is 6 months old (Which is fine), He is still
replying to forums where i have posted the question of helping in
development of project. Hope he responds.

My question is more on what are the stuff that a person should take
care while forking a project !, The way i want to take this project
may be completely different from what he is planning (and this is fine
, because this is my need) , What should a person do so that he/she
can get proper valuation for the previous work he/she has done.?

Any clarification would be appreciated !


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Re: [ilugd] Forking a GPlv2 project

2009-04-01 Thread Karanbir Singh

Gaurav Mishra wrote:

   Recently i found a dead project that met my needs in a exact way !, After
using it for few weeks and making a lot of changes and bug fixes , I
requested the mod to incorporate, communicate or atleast say hi to me , so
that i can know how he is planning to take on the project.

  But it looked like he was very busy to get bothered.


have you actually made contact with that person ? have you given that 
person reasonable amount of time to respond  ? did you use the 
'accepted' mechanism of communication for that project ? remember most 
people do *not* want person email about project -devel stuff if there is 
a -devel related mailing list. While most people will be ok with it - 
quite a few are not, and thats a very fair situation to be in.


There is also a good chance that the person has moved on in life and 
isnt really maintaining that project anymore - in which case they might 
be very happy to move the code and the project to you and let you carry 
on managing it. There are quite a few projects out there that have this 
sort of a 'moving from person to person' situation, eg the mutt folder 
view patchset project, and even tinyproxy.


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[ilugd] Forking a GPlv2 project

2009-04-01 Thread Gaurav Mishra
Greetings all,

   Recently i found a dead project that met my needs in a exact way !, After
using it for few weeks and making a lot of changes and bug fixes , I
requested the mod to incorporate, communicate or atleast say hi to me , so
that i can know how he is planning to take on the project.

  But it looked like he was very busy to get bothered.

  Now i have decided to forked the project and give it a new name, place and
a svn repositry.!, What are the things that i should take care of ?, This
code is going to be in the same licence as of it's older variant GPLv2.

 Any help and pointers would be appreciated !


Thanks and Regards
Gaurav Mishra

Linux User #348873
http://gmishra.com
"When i can run , i will run , When i can walk , i will walk, When i can
crawl , i will crawl. But i will not stop moving forward"
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