Re: [ilugd] Kiss Your TV Goodbye. With GISS.tv
On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Chirag Anand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/1/08, Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We need your suggestions to increase linux/open source popularity in our college. Though we are also trying hard for that. ;) My personal experience goes that initiating projects and continuing them have more effect instead of FOSS evangelism in college , The days of installation blues are gone with likes of ubuntu and i think that should be not the target -- Thanks and Regards Gaurav Mishra Linux User #348873 http://gauravmishra.info/blog When i can run , i will run , When i can walk , i will walk, When i can crawl , i will crawl. But i will not stop moving forward ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Kiss Your TV Goodbye. With GISS.tv
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 10:06 PM, Gaurav Mishra [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: My personal experience goes that initiating projects and continuing them have more effect instead of FOSS evangelism in college , +1. FOSS evangelism is necessary to some extent and should not be too prolonged. Projects are the way to go. The days of installation blues are gone with likes of ubuntu and i think that should be not the target I beg to differ on this. The major problem is still the installation part if you see it from a Windows User perspective. Last week one of my friend paid 500rs to a technician to get Linux installed on his machine. I was shocked!! And guess what, the installation did not work!! I fixed the issue when he told me about it(ofcourse, free of cost). My point is, people already on Linux will not find this issue worth discussing. Linux the word itself still scares away so many students, forget about installation. One common perception is: Humein Linux Install karna nahi aata(We don't know how to install Linux). Problem lies in attitude of students, especially so called engineering students. Just my thought. Cheers! -- Prakhar Agarwal Fedora Ambassador-Delhi, India Linux User# 474643 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG key: 8BC6532F Life is the greatest teacher ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Kiss Your TV Goodbye. With GISS.tv
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 10:33 PM, Gaurav Mishra [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Prakhar Agarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I beg to differ on this. The major problem is still the installation part if you see it from a Windows User perspective. I agree with Prakhar here that a windoz user always finds it difficult to install Linux. The word scares him away. He is not ready to try/experiment on his own at least the first time. He still needs some help with this part. Problem lies in attitude of students, especially so called engineering students. Just my thought. Exactly! We have to change the attitude of students and people, to be ready to try and learn new things. And that is not an easy task. At least in our colleges, we are finding it difficult. That is where evangelism comes into playand in the beginning you have to spoon-feed them. Even though I also agree, it is always a better idea of promoting through projects. The fun part is you will never get these guys into the mainstream and in the end will only waste your effort. So better concentrate on help people who want to help themselves. If we keep thinking that, we can never achieve. Its like giving up before even trying. And i've seen people transform from 'windoz user' to 'linux geek'...that includes myself. Concentrate on projects , These words are coming from a vast experience with college students We are just trying to prepare a good platform for the students, after that we can focus on projects. We dont want to scare them away with words like 'Linux Project'. Thanks for your suggestions though. :) Any other suggestions, ideas are always welcome. :) Regards -- Chirag Anand 4th Year, B.Tech Computer Science Department, JUIT Solan Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog Linux User: 476783 anything weird is worth a try... ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Kiss Your TV Goodbye. With GISS.tv
I seriously disagree with hearing that we should just ignore students who do not want to help themselves - that help yourself / RTFM mindset can also be nurtured and taught to people, and if we just think about the people who already *are* having that mindset then we will never be able to spread linux / foss - this is one thing which Ubuntu did not ignore, and the results are out :) ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Kiss Your TV Goodbye. With GISS.tv
Very aptly put. I whole heartedly agree. We are not here to ignore. We need people to become a part of our side. Remember, we are a small community right now as compared to other major players and we can not afford to ignore people like this. We can't be so aggressive IMHO. Cheers! -- Prakhar Agarwal Fedora Ambassador-Delhi, India Linux User# 474643 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG key: 8BC6532F Life is the greatest teacher ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Kiss Your TV Goodbye. With GISS.tv
On 11/1/08, Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the giss.tv team is doing quite an impressive job with this. meanwhile, locally, the credit goes to gora for organizing and coordinating this talk when yves took the initiative of contacting ilug-d, even in the face of almost negligible response from our ilug-d mailing list. i hope in the future we all are more enthusiastic and supportive of people who wish to share their knowledge and hacks so freely with our community. hmmm. anyone with a laptop and webcam at the next meet could be requested. chirag, i just noticed you're writing to us all the way from solan, which i believe is in himachal pradesh? thanks for writing in, and do share with us, what's the foss scene in your college and town? We have our Jaypee-LUG at college. We conduct classes for the students that includes installation, basic functionality, troubleshooting etc. We have our official blog at www.techfreaks4u.com and google group at http://groups.google.com/group/juit-linux-user-group started by our seniors. But the group suffers low activity. Main problem is that we are finding it difficult to get good response. Some 100 people turned for our orientation sessions. But eventually they reduced ~30 for the next. In fact i talked to Mr. Gora to give a talk at our college about open source/linux but the event was cancelled and it could not be continued further. The main problem is getting good response even if someone is ready to give some kinda presentation. It will not be worth to come over here and not get a good response. Well, we are planning some programming competitions, install fest and other related activities on the next weekend. As far as the town is concerned, we got a call from a local computer education institute to give a presentation on linux in shimla. But because of lack of volunteers, that could not be done. We need your suggestions to increase linux/open source popularity in our college. Though we are also trying hard for that. ;) Regards -- anything weird is worth a try... Chirag Anand 4th Year, B.Tech Computer Science Department, JUIT Solan Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog Linux User: 476783 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Kiss Your TV Goodbye. With GISS.tv
On 10/26/08, Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 1:32 AM, Angad Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is great stuff. I tried it out with my home DSL connection. I
created a
channel and streamed my webcam and mic to their IceCast 2 server. It
works
like a charm! Their wiki suggests using VisionAir on Windows (
http://giss.tv/wiki/index.php/Streaming_Tools), but that is not able to
stream. I used VLC. You can ofcourse use Theory Streaming Studio on
Linux.
For someone who would want to try it out with VLC, this is the stream
output
MRL format that works (for video + audio):
:sout=#transcode{vcodec=theo,vb=128,scale=1,acodec=vorb,ab=128,channels=2}:duplicate{dst=std{access=shout,mux=ogg,dst=
source:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:8000/channelname.ogg}}
This is great for people who cannot afford to host a video streaming
server
(with IceCast) of their own - since the bandwidth requirement makes that
kind of hosting costly - it's based on the giss.tv network, the concept
is
awesome.
hey Niyam its an excellent concept, i'm just loving it. I did not know that
it is working already. Though i'm yet to try it as my college internet has
some limitations, but it looks wonderful.
The technology allows so many users to connect to each other. I think the
next ilug-d meet should be broadcasted using GISS, so that people like me
who cannot attend them (being out of state) can also attend it virtually. ;)
Regards
--
anything weird is worth a try...
Chirag Anand
4th Year, B.Tech
Computer Science Department, JUIT Solan
Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog
Linux User: 476783
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Re: [ilugd] Kiss Your TV Goodbye. With GISS.tv
[snip] hey Niyam its an excellent concept, i'm just loving it. I did not know that it is working already. Though i'm yet to try it as my college internet has some limitations, but it looks wonderful. the giss.tv team is doing quite an impressive job with this. meanwhile, locally, the credit goes to gora for organizing and coordinating this talk when yves took the initiative of contacting ilug-d, even in the face of almost negligible response from our ilug-d mailing list. i hope in the future we all are more enthusiastic and supportive of people who wish to share their knowledge and hacks so freely with our community. The technology allows so many users to connect to each other. I think the next ilug-d meet should be broadcasted using GISS, so that people like me who cannot attend them (being out of state) can also attend it virtually. ;) hmmm. anyone with a laptop and webcam at the next meet could be requested. chirag, i just noticed you're writing to us all the way from solan, which i believe is in himachal pradesh? thanks for writing in, and do share with us, what's the foss scene in your college and town? regards niyam Regards -- anything weird is worth a try... Chirag Anand 4th Year, B.Tech Computer Science Department, JUIT Solan Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog Linux User: 476783 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- niyam bhushan ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Kiss Your TV Goodbye. With GISS.tv
This is great stuff. I tried it out with my home DSL connection. I created a
channel and streamed my webcam and mic to their IceCast 2 server. It works
like a charm! Their wiki suggests using VisionAir on Windows (
http://giss.tv/wiki/index.php/Streaming_Tools), but that is not able to
stream. I used VLC. You can ofcourse use Theory Streaming Studio on Linux.
For someone who would want to try it out with VLC, this is the stream output
MRL format that works (for video + audio):
:sout=#transcode{vcodec=theo,vb=128,scale=1,acodec=vorb,ab=128,channels=2}:duplicate{dst=std{access=shout,mux=ogg,dst=
source:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:8000/channelname.ogg}}
This is great for people who cannot afford to host a video streaming server
(with IceCast) of their own - since the bandwidth requirement makes that
kind of hosting costly - it's based on the giss.tv network, the concept is
awesome.
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
dear all,
for those who missed the stimulating sessions with yves degoyon of giss.tv
,
have just jotted down my impressions here, posted with his photos:
http://niyam.com/blog/gnulinux/2008/kiss-your-tv-goodbye/
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Re: [ilugd] Kiss Your TV Goodbye. With GISS.tv
Angad Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is great for people who cannot afford to host a video streaming server (with IceCast) of their own - since the bandwidth requirement makes that kind of hosting costly - it's based on the giss.tv network, the concept is awesome. Note, MTNL upload is unmetered. PJ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Kiss Your TV Goodbye. With GISS.tv
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 1:32 AM, Angad Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is great stuff. I tried it out with my home DSL connection. I created a
channel and streamed my webcam and mic to their IceCast 2 server. It works
like a charm! Their wiki suggests using VisionAir on Windows (
http://giss.tv/wiki/index.php/Streaming_Tools), but that is not able to
stream. I used VLC. You can ofcourse use Theory Streaming Studio on Linux.
For someone who would want to try it out with VLC, this is the stream output
MRL format that works (for video + audio):
:sout=#transcode{vcodec=theo,vb=128,scale=1,acodec=vorb,ab=128,channels=2}:duplicate{dst=std{access=shout,mux=ogg,dst=
source:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:8000/channelname.ogg}}
This is great for people who cannot afford to host a video streaming server
(with IceCast) of their own - since the bandwidth requirement makes that
kind of hosting costly - it's based on the giss.tv network, the concept is
awesome.
whew! am so glad you liked this angad. am even more glad yves insisted
with ilug-d and sarai he wanted to come to delhi and talk to a
reluctant bunch of us, as almost all of us had turned a deaf ear to
him.
am as excited as you are about this.
consider spreading the word further, holding a demo or two in your local area,
if you're coming to the next ilug-d meeting in this lovely weather,
deliver a talk. anything.
regards
niyam
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[ilugd] Kiss Your TV Goodbye. With GISS.tv
dear all, for those who missed the stimulating sessions with yves degoyon of giss.tv, have just jotted down my impressions here, posted with his photos: http://niyam.com/blog/gnulinux/2008/kiss-your-tv-goodbye/ -- niyam bhushan ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
