Re: [ilugd] Linux based Web Hosting
Mridul, For India based VPS I would recommend http://www.vr.org/ - pretty good pricing and solid technical support. They have servers at Netmagic Mumbai. Hostgator India is good as well but not sure how's company's support after it got acquired sometimes back. If you are not looking for low latency/ India specific servers, then I would suggest following: 1. Contabo - http://contabo.com/?show=vps (best deal in terms of price but not 24x7 support) 2. Linode - http://www.linode.com/ - highly reliable but slightly on higher end along with Hostgator US (Servers in Softlayer datacenter) 3. Amazon EC2 instance in Singapore or US or even Europe might be another option but I just find more talk about cloud then of real value. Unless you have some really specific requirements, it won't make sense to go for a very low server for $25 or so a month with low resources. Also, bandwidth stays slightly expensive on Amazon. Around 12 cents per GB, so we are looking at around 6Rs/GB, so 600Rs for 100GB/out transfer. So just be aware that if you have high out bandwidth, it will put a significant cost on monthly bill. 4. You can also look at Tata IaaS with India + Singapore datacenter but I found support to be of way too low quality. Less on support on high on sales - http://instacompute.com/ So you can decide based on all these factors. I personally ran my servers with Softlayer, in-house datacenter with my previous employer and private colo's in US reliably in past. For cheap VPS part Europe always worked well with super cheap bandwidth along with better pricing in general. If bandwidth is not concern then only Indian servers will make sense (along with fact that if you love low latency and expecting more visitors from India). Keep in mind that performance will be awful for US/Europe users on Indian servers (200-300ms latency). Also, I do back a lot on Amazon S3 (and Glacier) to dump daily backup of all data. It costs super low and thus if you don't have mission critical application can accept slight downtime then go for one which is cheap have simple bash scripts doing backup, encryption push dumps to Amazon S3 (and eventually to Glacier). So that can be a good and powerful enough setup for less mission-critical server. I hope this will help! On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Mridul Kapoor mridulkap...@gmail.comwrote: Oops.. Some problem with my reply. Somehow it didn't go in its full form. Anyways - - Thanks a lot Ravi and Vipul. Considering your suggestions, I guess I choose between Hetzner and Ec2. I could go with amazon ec2, considering the free starter service Thanks a lot once again! - Mridul Sent from a phone, please excuse the brevity ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd -- Anurag Bhatia anuragbhatia.com Linkedin http://in.linkedin.com/in/anuragbhatia21 | Twitterhttps://twitter.com/anurag_bhatia| Google+ https://plus.google.com/118280168625121532854 Skype: anuragbhatia.com PGP Public Key here https://anuragbhatia.com/pgp-public-key.txt (for secure communications) ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Linux based Web Hosting
On 12/29/2012 10:25 PM, Mridul Kapoor wrote: Hi I plan to put up a website for a blog and some of my projects. I have projects in python, ruby, php. So I would want a web host which provides me these, along with a capability to manage via ssh -- install stuff etc. Could anyone recommend me a good and cost-effective hosting provider ? I see hostgator has India operations. Any recommendations/reviews ? I can highly recommend E2E Networks http://e2enetworks.com if you are open to cloud hosting. They've their servers in India, and hence have excellent connectivity, low latency, and works well even if the international bandwidth is choked of your isp. Also, they've a technically competent staff; in fact it's being run by Tarun Dua who's also a member on this list. Regards Vivek Kapoor http://exain.com ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Linux based Web Hosting
Hi On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Vivek Kapoor subs...@exain.com wrote: On 12/29/2012 10:25 PM, Mridul Kapoor wrote: Hi I plan to put up a website for a blog and some of my projects. I have projects in python, ruby, php. So I would want a web host which provides me these, along with a capability to manage via ssh -- install stuff etc. Could anyone recommend me a good and cost-effective hosting provider ? I see hostgator has India operations. Any recommendations/reviews ? Net4 is also providing good service at competitive rates. I can highly recommend E2E Networks http://e2enetworks.com if you are open to cloud hosting. They've their servers in India, and hence have excellent connectivity, low latency, and works well even if the international bandwidth is choked of your isp. Also, they've a technically competent staff; in fact it's being run by Tarun Dua who's also a member on this list. Regards Vivek Kapoor http://exain.com __**_ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/**mailman/listinfo/ilugdhttp://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd -- Manager PIO(RTI) National Internet Exchange of India(www.nixi.in) A section 25 Company, Ministry of Communication and Information Technology,Govt of India, Incube Business Center, 5 level, 18, Nehru Place, New Delhi - 110019 India (M) +91-9868477444 (D)+91-11-30614630 Skype ID:erajay E-mail: ajay at nixi.in,P-mail: joinajay1 at gmail.com . Please don't print this email unless you really need to. This will preserve trees on our planet. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Linux based Web Hosting
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Vivek Kapoor subs...@exain.com wrote: I can highly recommend E2E Networks http://e2enetworks.com if you are open to cloud hosting. They've their servers in India, and hence have excellent connectivity, low latency, and works well even if the international bandwidth is choked of your isp. Also, they've a technically competent staff; in fact it's being run by Tarun Dua who's also a member on this list. Price seems too high. I am paying 26 euro (less than INR 1900) per month for a hardware which has 8 GB RAM, 2 HDD with 1 TB each (so I can use soft-raid), dual core AMD processor. This is not cloud. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Linux based Web Hosting
On 12/30/2012 08:56 PM, Ravi Kumar wrote: On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Vivek Kapoor subs...@exain.com mailto:subs...@exain.com wrote: I can highly recommend E2E Networks http://e2enetworks.com if you are open to cloud hosting. They've their servers in India, and hence have excellent connectivity, low latency, and works well even if the international bandwidth is choked of your isp. Also, they've a technically competent staff; in fact it's being run by Tarun Dua who's also a member on this list. Price seems too high. I am paying 26 euro (less than INR 1900) per month for a hardware which has 8 GB RAM, 2 HDD with 1 TB each (so I can use soft-raid), dual core AMD processor. This is not cloud. I've found E2E's price very competitive, near comparable to other cloud hosting providers, especially considering that they've servers in India. Bandwidth in India is still very expensive. Not being in a cloud has a disadvantage that you've to take care of your hardware yourselves. I've had servers in the similar cost range as yours, but these are usually very old servers and I've not found their performance to be satisfactory. Though if it's just for personal use, then maybe that suits, as it did for me for quite some time. I'm also hosting with Rackspace Cloud (3 instances) Hivelocity (2 dedicated servers), and I see that being outside India will always have its benefits on the cost front. On the other hand, being in India maybe slightly expensive, but it has its advantages as far as network connectivity is concerned. I had purchased a 1U rack server and co-located it in a Noida facility, and later moved to E2E's Cloud instance. In both cases, I've had a latency of between 20ms to 80ms and working over ssh seems that you're working on a local machine. Same goes for response times when you load your website in the browser - it's near instantaneous. The best part however is that it isn't affected by the international connectivity, which means if some under-sea cable fault happens, or say Bharti or Tata are facing temporary bandwidth issues, at least your server would perform well. Regards Vivek Kapoor http://exain.com ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Linux based Web Hosting
Thanks a lot for your suggestions and help, Ravi and Vipul. Considering your suggestions, I guess I choose between Hetzner and Ec2. I could go with amazon ec2, considering the free If you want total control, like installing any environment (python/ruby/php), access through SSH, etc, shared hosting is out of options. For VPS/owned-instance, you can try: 1. Slicehost 2. Rackspace 3. Amazon EC2 4. Hetzner etc All of these let you choose different instance types (RAM/CPU type based), and will provide you web interface to install any popular Linux distro. You will be given access to SSH, and then its all yours to do whatever you want to. So, basically it will be whole virtual remote machine with Linux. I am using some instance from all these providers. In my opinion, Rackspace is cheapest for a low profile instance. I am getting billed $14/mo for small instance which has 512MB RAM. If you need better machine, high RAM in comparatively low price, try to buy some reused hardware at Hetzner.. Amazon EC2 stands at same level as Rackspace, but it has better addons, like S3/EBS/DNS etc. Amazon EC2 has free plans for starters. If you want a free instance for a year, register on Amazon EC2, and select the tiny instance (perhaps with 600-700 MB RAM) and you will get linux with sufficient RAM to run your web-app/site. My experience with other VPS and Shared hosting been rough. Regards, - Ravi Kumar On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Vipul Agarwal vi...@nuttygeeks.comwrote: Hi Mridul, if you're open to hosting providers outside India, you may like to checkout Hetzner. Their VPS service is quite good and affordable. http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produktmatrix_vserver/vserver-produktmatrix They even provide free monitoring tools. -Vipul On Dec 29, 2012 4:55 PM, Mridul Kapoor mridulkap...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I plan to put up a website for a blog and some of my projects. I have projects in python, ruby, php. So I would want a web host which provides me these, along with a capability to manage via ssh -- install stuff etc. Could anyone recommend me a good and cost-effective hosting provider ? I see hostgator has India operations. Any recommendations/reviews ? Thanks Mridul ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Linux based Web Hosting
Oops.. Some problem with my reply. Somehow it didn't go in its full form. Anyways - - Thanks a lot Ravi and Vipul. Considering your suggestions, I guess I choose between Hetzner and Ec2. I could go with amazon ec2, considering the free starter service Thanks a lot once again! - Mridul Sent from a phone, please excuse the brevity ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Linux based Web Hosting
Hi I plan to put up a website for a blog and some of my projects. I have projects in python, ruby, php. So I would want a web host which provides me these, along with a capability to manage via ssh -- install stuff etc. Could anyone recommend me a good and cost-effective hosting provider ? I see hostgator has India operations. Any recommendations/reviews ? Thanks Mridul ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Linux based Web Hosting
Hi Mridul, if you're open to hosting providers outside India, you may like to checkout Hetzner. Their VPS service is quite good and affordable. http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produktmatrix_vserver/vserver-produktmatrix They even provide free monitoring tools. -Vipul On Dec 29, 2012 4:55 PM, Mridul Kapoor mridulkap...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I plan to put up a website for a blog and some of my projects. I have projects in python, ruby, php. So I would want a web host which provides me these, along with a capability to manage via ssh -- install stuff etc. Could anyone recommend me a good and cost-effective hosting provider ? I see hostgator has India operations. Any recommendations/reviews ? Thanks Mridul ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Linux based Web Hosting
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Mridul Kapoor mridulkap...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I plan to put up a website for a blog and some of my projects. I have projects in python, ruby, php. So I would want a web host which provides me these, along with a capability to manage via ssh -- install stuff etc. Could anyone recommend me a good and cost-effective hosting provider ? I see hostgator has India operations. Any recommendations/reviews ? I am using shared web hosting @ www.kashipur.net. It is India based company so you can pay with INR cheques.I believe their data center is hosted @ Rackspace. ssh access was about Rs. 500/year extra but worth it. I get the flexibility of installing the latest package from tar balls compared to what might be available through CPanel/Fantastico. Default db back end is MySQL which is OK for my needs. Support response is good and to my satisfaction. HTH, -- Arun Khan ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Linux based Web Hosting
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Vipul Agarwal vi...@nuttygeeks.com wrote: Hi Mridul, if you're open to hosting providers outside India, you may like to checkout Hetzner. Their VPS service is quite good and affordable. http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produktmatrix_vserver/vserver-produktmatrix They even provide free monitoring tools. Indeed, the pricing is very good. On Dec 29, 2012 4:55 PM, Mridul Kapoor mridulkap...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Please do not top post and trim your quotes. -- Arun Khan ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Linux based Web Hosting
If you want total control, like installing any environment (python/ruby/php), access through SSH, etc, shared hosting is out of options. For VPS/owned-instance, you can try: 1. Slicehost 2. Rackspace 3. Amazon EC2 4. Hetzner etc All of these let you choose different instance types (RAM/CPU type based), and will provide you web interface to install any popular Linux distro. You will be given access to SSH, and then its all yours to do whatever you want to. So, basically it will be whole virtual remote machine with Linux. I am using some instance from all these providers. In my opinion, Rackspace is cheapest for a low profile instance. I am getting billed $14/mo for small instance which has 512MB RAM. If you need better machine, high RAM in comparatively low price, try to buy some reused hardware at Hetzner.. Amazon EC2 stands at same level as Rackspace, but it has better addons, like S3/EBS/DNS etc. Amazon EC2 has free plans for starters. If you want a free instance for a year, register on Amazon EC2, and select the tiny instance (perhaps with 600-700 MB RAM) and you will get linux with sufficient RAM to run your web-app/site. My experience with other VPS and Shared hosting been rough. Regards, - Ravi Kumar On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Vipul Agarwal vi...@nuttygeeks.comwrote: Hi Mridul, if you're open to hosting providers outside India, you may like to checkout Hetzner. Their VPS service is quite good and affordable. http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produktmatrix_vserver/vserver-produktmatrix They even provide free monitoring tools. -Vipul On Dec 29, 2012 4:55 PM, Mridul Kapoor mridulkap...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I plan to put up a website for a blog and some of my projects. I have projects in python, ruby, php. So I would want a web host which provides me these, along with a capability to manage via ssh -- install stuff etc. Could anyone recommend me a good and cost-effective hosting provider ? I see hostgator has India operations. Any recommendations/reviews ? Thanks Mridul ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
