Re: [ilugd] Suggestion for Lify CD

2004-04-02 Thread Anupam Jain
 I suggest adding some OpenGL stuff like Mesa and Open Inventor (libraries) 
and the OpenGL Red Book (doc).
And how about some support for alternative languages like Haskell and Ocaml 
(or does everyone here use only the old faithfuls?).

Some more suggestions - VB clones (Though I have never used one but I hear 
such beasts exist), Gaming engines like Crystal Space SDK.

I'd also suggest wineX but I think it is not freely distributable. How does 
PCQLinux 2004 include it then?

- AJ


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Re: [ilugd] Suggestion for Lify CD

2004-04-02 Thread vivek khurana

--- Anupam Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I suggest adding some OpenGL stuff like Mesa and
 Open Inventor (libraries) 
 and the OpenGL Red Book (doc).

 Can you recommend the exact version along with the
dependencies that might exist.

 And how about some support for alternative languages
 like Haskell and Ocaml 
 (or does everyone here use only the old faithfuls?).

 It can be included but again recommend the stable
version if you know any.


 I'd also suggest wineX but I think it is not freely
 distributable. How does 
 PCQLinux 2004 include it then?

 PCQ might have taken permission from winex.

Regards
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Re: [ilugd] Suggestion for Lify CD

2004-04-01 Thread vivek khurana

--- Arjun Asthana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 How about some desktops/WMs? Esp. the light ones
 (some of which are pain to 
 download over dial-up) like XPde, XFCE, Fluxbox (not
 a pain to download, but 
 still, it rocks!) or ROX (well, the things that make
 up the WM part of it 
 are).

 Are desktop/Wm part of development tools?? I don't
think so. If the list thinks so, we can recommend.

Regards
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Re: [ilugd] Suggestion for Lify CD

2004-04-01 Thread linuxlingam
On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 07:52, vivek khurana wrote:
[snip]
  
  in addition, the cds must also carry stuff people
  don't think about,
  like:
  
  1) templates, clip-art, themes, for openoffice,
  xmms, GDM, gimp, etc.
  2) loads of muft and mukt music. encourage artists
  in india to submit
[snip]

  LL how come muft music a development tool??? Although
 this itself can be a good idea to have cd of muft and
 mukt music. You can get in touch with Lify for this,
 wait a minute you are already in touch with them.

er.. look carefully, i say in addition.

LL

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Re: [ilugd] Suggestion for Lify CD

2004-03-31 Thread vivek khurana

--- Pankaj Dekate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hi,
 present in any linux distributions.I would indeed
 stress on day to day
 utilities and documentation which are much
 needed.Lify cd's should come
 up with new libraries and the accompanying
 dependencies.Otherwise there
 is no point in coming up with a library which has a
 dependency on a
 newer version of other library which is not included
 with lify cd.
 Now this is a good idea. can you make a list of newer
libs along with dependencies and post it to list. Any
way all the tools will carry the latest versions of
the softwares which will certainly be newer than the
ones provided with a distro.
 Bugzilla and Doxygen are also a good choice.
 QMail will also be a good choice in mail server
 category.
 Is qmail a development tool
 IBM Websphere will be a good choice in the
 application server category.

 Websphere is  a proprietory product. Please do't post
proprietory products.

Regards
VK

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Re: [ilugd] Suggestion for Lify CD

2004-03-31 Thread Arjun Asthana
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On Tuesday 30 March 2004 16:40, you wrote:
[snip]
  I am adding three more categories
 5) Libraries
 6) Testing Tools
  Junit, Ant
 7) Misc
  AgroUML, ORBIT, Bugzilla, Amaya, Webcpp, Doxygen

  Every one is free to add categories/suggestions

How about some desktops/WMs? Esp. the light ones (some of which are pain to 
download over dial-up) like XPde, XFCE, Fluxbox (not a pain to download, but 
still, it rocks!) or ROX (well, the things that make up the WM part of it 
are).

 Regards
 VK
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Re: [ilugd] Suggestion for Lify CD

2004-03-31 Thread Pankaj Dekate
On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 17:14, vivek khurana wrote:
 --- Pankaj Dekate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  hi,
  present in any linux distributions.I would indeed
  stress on day to day
  utilities and documentation which are much
  needed.Lify cd's should come
  up with new libraries and the accompanying
  dependencies.Otherwise there
  is no point in coming up with a library which has a
  dependency on a
  newer version of other library which is not included
  with lify cd.
  Now this is a good idea. can you make a list of newer
 libs along with dependencies and post it to list. Any
 way all the tools will carry the latest versions of
 the softwares which will certainly be newer than the
 ones provided with a distro.
  Bugzilla and Doxygen are also a good choice.
  QMail will also be a good choice in mail server
  category.
  Is qmail a development tool
Just check the line above your question.I mentioned mail servers.So i
guess a mail server isn't a development tool.
  IBM Websphere will be a good choice in the
  application server category.
 
  Websphere is  a proprietory product. Please do't post
 proprietory products.
 Sorry for posting a proprietory product.I should have suggested Jrun or JBoss.
But i thought since websphere is most widely used than JBoss it would
help most of the people to try hands on linux for java development for
J2EE.
 Regards
 VK
 
  You can include memprof,valgrind in the development category.
If you are including Kdevelop3.0 and above then I suggest you also
include dot program from www.graphviz.org  .This program is needed by
Kdevelop3.0 and above.Although it will work without dot the developers
would miss the graphical class browser functionality in kdevelop.
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Re: [ilugd] Suggestion for Lify CD

2004-03-31 Thread linuxlingam
the cds must always carry the 'BIG BLOBS' that people can't usually
download. these include the latest versions of:

1) libraries. libraries. libraries:
2) QT
3) KDE
4) GNOME
5) Mozilla
6) Evolution (is that possible?)
7) OpenOfficex.x.

in addition, the cds must also carry stuff people don't think about,
like:

1) templates, clip-art, themes, for openoffice, xmms, GDM, gimp, etc.
2) loads of muft and mukt music. encourage artists in india to submit
their classical indian music for instance, as ogg vorbis files, under a
creativecommons license, to be distributed on these cds. ditto with
photographs, videos, etc.


also, i hope LiFY and LFY don't become delhi-mailing list centric. hope
they have posted their request for suggestions to major mailing lists
across india, and/or to the linux india mailing list as well.

:-)
LL

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Re: [ilugd] Suggestion for Lify CD

2004-03-31 Thread vivek khurana

--- linuxlingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 the cds must always carry the 'BIG BLOBS' that
 people can't usually
 download. these include the latest versions of:
 
 1) libraries. libraries. libraries:
 2) QT
 3) KDE
 4) GNOME
 5) Mozilla
 6) Evolution (is that possible?)
 7) OpenOfficex.x.
 
 in addition, the cds must also carry stuff people
 don't think about,
 like:
 
 1) templates, clip-art, themes, for openoffice,
 xmms, GDM, gimp, etc.
 2) loads of muft and mukt music. encourage artists
 in india to submit
 their classical indian music for instance, as ogg
 vorbis files, under a
 creativecommons license, to be distributed on these
 cds. ditto with
 photographs, videos, etc.

 LL how come muft music a development tool??? Although
this itself can be a good idea to have cd of muft and
mukt music. You can get in touch with Lify for this,
wait a minute you are already in touch with them.
 
 
 
 also, i hope LiFY and LFY don't become delhi-mailing
 list centric. hope
 they have posted their request for suggestions to
 major mailing lists
 across india, and/or to the linux india mailing list
 as well.

 I had posted it to LIP as it tries to be be a
developers list.

Regards
VK

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Re: [ilugd] Suggestion for Lify CD

2004-03-31 Thread Raj Mathur
 Vivek == vivek khurana [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Vivek [snip]

Vivek  LL how come muft music a development tool??? Although this
Vivek itself can be a good idea to have cd of muft and mukt
Vivek music. You can get in touch with Lify for this, wait a
Vivek minute you are already in touch with them.
 
Great idea!  You can have a WHOLE CD of me singing for muft and mukt!

Now doesn't that make you happy?

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[ilugd] Suggestion for Lify CD

2004-03-30 Thread vivek khurana
HI! Everyone

 LFY's Asst. Editor mayank has given an idea for
having a cd (for LFY) prepared by ilugd. In our
initial discussion we had decided that we can have a
cd containing database(s) + development tools for
linux.

 So i am writing to group members to come up with
suggestion for the content of databse + development
tools cd. I had decided few categories to streamline
the suggestions. the categories are as following

1)IDE
2)Compilers/Interpretors
3)Databases
4)Documentation

 Only usefull and Floss/open source tools and Db can
be recommended i.e projects available under
*PL(GPL/LGPL/MPL/CPL etc) or free BSD can be
suggested. Suggestion for proprietory products will be
redirected to /dev/null 
 
 Please mention the category for each tool.

 LAST DATE FOR POSTING SUGGESTION IS 8th APRIL 2004.
Suggestions received after 8th april 2004, 2400 hrs
wil be sent to /dev/null.

Regards
VK

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Re: [ilugd] Suggestion for Lify CD

2004-03-30 Thread vivek khurana
 Begining suggestions
 1)IDE
 Anjuta, Eclipse, Boa Constructor
 2)Compilers/Interpretors
 perl, python, gcc, wxPython, wxWindows, NASM
 3)Databases
 Mysql, MaxDB, postgresql,
 4)Documentation
 

 I am adding three more categories
5) Libraries
6) Testing Tools
 Junit, Ant
7) Misc
 AgroUML, ORBIT, Bugzilla, Amaya, Webcpp, Doxygen

 Every one is free to add categories/suggestions

Regards
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Re: [ilugd] Suggestion for Lify CD

2004-03-30 Thread Sharninder Singh
 
 1)IDE

Anjuta / Kdevelop

 2)Compilers/Interpretors

gcc / gambas (gambas.sf.net) 

 3)Databases

Can't think of any .. almost everyone has mysql / postgres. But there
are few others on freshmeat which look really promising.

 4)Documentation

the whole of tldp.org


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Re: [ilugd] Suggestion for Lify CD

2004-03-30 Thread vivek khurana

--- Sharninder Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 are few others on freshmeat which look really
 promising.

 Please choose the ones you find are usefull and post
them on list. We can have discussion on there
useability and why should they be included in the cd.
 
  4)Documentation
 
 the whole of tldp.org
 i dont see any point in having whole of the tldp, but
we can have documentation from tldp regarding
devlopment and DB configuration.

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Re: [ilugd] Suggestion for Lify CD

2004-03-30 Thread Sharninder Singh
  
   4)Documentation
  
  the whole of tldp.org
  i dont see any point in having whole of the tldp, but
 we can have documentation from tldp regarding
 devlopment and DB configuration.

Right !! I did get a bit carried away there :)

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