Re: [ilugd] vivekagrawal83 wants to keep up with you on Twitter
On Jan 10, 2008 12:08 PM, Puneet Lakhina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 9, 2008 2:07 PM, Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can anyone set up (fund?) a group sms subscriber service as well, which sends one sms tip a day or something? I could try sending SMS tips from say an RSS feed if there is some interest. But it would be difficult to keep the sending SMS part free for long. thanks puneet for volunteering. we could perhaps set up various kinds of content around sms: a) tip of the day. b) ilug-d event /meeting reminder. c) placeholder i have no idea of finance. perhaps the service may only be available to members of ilugd who've paid an annual membership fee,a nd this could be deducted from that (365 + 12 smses total = 377 smses. okay let's assume 400. at what price each? ) am just thinking way out loud, in the hope something tangible comes from this. please join the discussion, everyone. opt-in method. privacy issues. opt-out methods. sponsored service. ??? regards niyam -- niyam bhushan ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] vivekagrawal83 wants to keep up with you on Twitter
Hey Raj others... Right now I need to go for a meeting, but I will answer each point if and when I get the chance... meanwhile, here's a rejoinder from me... Apps like twitter arose because the very character of the internet changed because of ubiquitious server centric computing-- away from the days when servers were the preserve of sun, silicon graphics and dec amongst others... and folks could not even think of using network based computing for something as trivial as sharing information about presence. Twitter, Joiku, facebook are today what these lists were 10 years back-- in 1997... and in those days administrators were similarly kicking out people for misusing internet ? Why dont you instead try to explore this new world... who says one cant reach out to thousands one doesnt know ? if the medium allows it... then why not ? Maybe you are all good-- but Raj, this mail-- along with your discourse about backwardness-- and how it connects with freed-- made it sound suspiciously like a dictator knows what's best-- to control resources and authority- while citing a higher purpose. Also, I think your mail is totally political-- intended to establish dominance without alienating your own constituency-- and that stinks-- you sound like a communist advocating the rule of the intelligentsia-- before running a massacre. Lingam; Sriram-- what I am saying abt groupism-- is based on my own experiences as a professional and not on any political arguments. Personally if Raj is some sort of authority figure-- I feel you should have asked the fellows who insisted of making fun of Rizwan to shut up or be kicked-- or atleast directed RIzwan to some linux learning resource page-- instead of letting people make a joke out of him. Also, it is disgusting how people like Kenneth pick on individuals who are new or out of their domain. And instead of stamping out such bullying--- folks like Raj and Gora abet it. That folks is not leadership... that's mobocracy... where you quote some higher religion (like list etiquette) while letting riots run amok on the ground... modi for pm anyone ? I'd rather die first. Even if someone is different-- like that Rizwanur fellow--- or the guy with bad spellings who Kenneth made fun of--- you leader types need to think about how to make them part of it--- rather than quote some story... and why people should be killed for spamming... -Pri On 1/9/08, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 09 Jan 2008, Linux Lingam wrote: [snip] may i recommend: a. a temporary suspend of the account with a transparent reason worded politely. b. three counts of such suspension are followed by a ban. c. three counts of a ban.. oh wait! [decides to abstain from...] Thanks for volunteering to write the application that will keep track of each user's misdemeanours, his/her suspension period, his/her suspension revocation time, count of number of bans/suspensions, etc! I'm sure the list admin (Kishore) doesn't have time for keeping track of all this. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ Freedom in Technology Software || February 2008 || http://freed.in/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] vivekagrawal83 wants to keep up with you on Twitter
/ /Apps like twitter arose because the very character of the internet changed /because of ubiquitious server centric computing-- away from the days when /servers were the preserve of sun, silicon graphics and dec amongst others... /and folks could not even think of using network based computing for /something as trivial as sharing information about presence. / /Twitter, Joiku, facebook are today what these lists were 10 years back-- in /1997... and in those days administrators were similarly kicking out people /for misusing internet ? / /Why dont you instead try to explore this new world... who says one cant /reach out to thousands one doesnt know ? if the medium allows it... then why /not ? / Ma'am, I totally agree with you. RAS (regn, authentication, status) was a domain of high-end VOIP protocol stacks... costing millions and tens of millions of dollars- today these things encapsulated in the concept of presence have changed the way the younger generation works and thinks. Your observations are very good-- Also, what do you do professionally ? if on orkut, linkedin or facebook, use my email ID to add me. Nalin On 1/9/08, Priya Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Raj others... Right now I need to go for a meeting, but I will answer each point if and when I get the chance... meanwhile, here's a rejoinder from me... Apps like twitter arose because the very character of the internet changed because of ubiquitious server centric computing-- away from the days when servers were the preserve of sun, silicon graphics and dec amongst others... and folks could not even think of using network based computing for something as trivial as sharing information about presence. Twitter, Joiku, facebook are today what these lists were 10 years back-- in 1997... and in those days administrators were similarly kicking out people for misusing internet ? Why dont you instead try to explore this new world... who says one cant reach out to thousands one doesnt know ? if the medium allows it... then why not ? Maybe you are all good-- but Raj, this mail-- along with your discourse about backwardness-- and how it connects with freed-- made it sound suspiciously like a dictator knows what's best-- to control resources and authority- while citing a higher purpose. Also, I think your mail is totally political-- intended to establish dominance without alienating your own constituency-- and that stinks-- you sound like a communist advocating the rule of the intelligentsia-- before running a massacre. Lingam; Sriram-- what I am saying abt groupism-- is based on my own experiences as a professional and not on any political arguments. Personally if Raj is some sort of authority figure-- I feel you should have asked the fellows who insisted of making fun of Rizwan to shut up or be kicked-- or atleast directed RIzwan to some linux learning resource page-- instead of letting people make a joke out of him. Also, it is disgusting how people like Kenneth pick on individuals who are new or out of their domain. And instead of stamping out such bullying--- folks like Raj and Gora abet it. That folks is not leadership... that's mobocracy... where you quote some higher religion (like list etiquette) while letting riots run amok on the ground... modi for pm anyone ? I'd rather die first. Even if someone is different-- like that Rizwanur fellow--- or the guy with bad spellings who Kenneth made fun of--- you leader types need to think about how to make them part of it--- rather than quote some story... and why people should be killed for spamming... -Pri On 1/9/08, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 09 Jan 2008, Linux Lingam wrote: [snip] may i recommend: a. a temporary suspend of the account with a transparent reason worded politely. b. three counts of such suspension are followed by a ban. c. three counts of a ban.. oh wait! [decides to abstain from...] Thanks for volunteering to write the application that will keep track of each user's misdemeanours, his/her suspension period, his/her suspension revocation time, count of number of bans/suspensions, etc! I'm sure the list admin (Kishore) doesn't have time for keeping track of all this. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ Freedom in Technology Software || February 2008 || http://freed.in/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] vivekagrawal83 wants to keep up with you on Twitter
[snip] some excellent points made by priya. is it possible to set up an ilug-d presence of twitter? facebook? other more contemporary media?: let's surely go ahead and do it? can anyone set up (fund?) a group sms subscriber service as well, which sends one sms tip a day or something? ilug-d on youtube? ilug-d podcasts? ilug-d myspace? ilug-d placeholder let's go for it! regards niyam ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] vivekagrawal83 wants to keep up with you on Twitter
I might even have bothered to respond to the rest of th message, until I came across... On Wednesday 09 Jan 2008, Priya Kumar wrote: [snip] Maybe you are all good-- but Raj, this mail-- along with your discourse about backwardness-- and how it connects with freed-- made it sound suspiciously like a dictator knows what's best-- to control resources and authority- while citing a higher purpose. Also, I think your mail is totally political-- intended to establish dominance without alienating your own constituency-- and that stinks-- you sound like a communist advocating the rule of the intelligentsia-- before running a massacre. I'd like a hit from your crack pipe too, Priya! The coders that crack together, hack together! -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ Freedom in Technology Software || February 2008 || http://freed.in/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] vivekagrawal83 wants to keep up with you on Twitter
On 09-Jan-08, at 1:38 PM, Priya Kumar wrote: Why dont you instead try to explore this new world... who says one cant reach out to thousands one doesnt know ? if the medium allows it... then why not ? you have missed the point - we are not advocating kicking vivekagrawal83 for inviting us to Twitter. I do not think he intended to invite us. We want to kick him for exposing his address book to a spam site. Handing over one's address book to any site is to say the least, stupid - and in my opinion an act of criminal negligence. A lot of us are members of some of these sites - I even heard a rumour that Raj was a member of orkut (hope it's not true and apologise for spreading it if not true). Also, it is disgusting how people like Kenneth pick on individuals who are new or out of their domain. I have specifically answered this - if you want, please refute the answer and do not repeat the same thing again and again. As for the guy who doesnt know how to unsubcribe - that's his problem. He shouldnt join lists without knowing how to leave them. I did not notice you advising him on how to unsubsribe, btw. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ Foss conference for the common man: http://registration.fossconf.in/web/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] vivekagrawal83 wants to keep up with you on Twitter
Niyam, As per ILUG-D's long standing rule, you're nominated for the following: - Set up ilugd presence on all the sites mentioned below :) Go forth and sign up! --- Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is it possible to set up an ilug-d presence of twitter? facebook? other more contemporary media?: let's surely go ahead and do it? can anyone set up (fund?) a group sms subscriber service as well, which sends one sms tip a day or something? ilug-d on youtube? ilug-d podcasts? ilug-d myspace? ilug-d placeholder let's go for it! -- Viksit -- Viksit Gaur viksit at aya dot yale dot edu http://viksit.com Just because you have a mind like a hammer doesn't mean you should treat everyone else like a nail - Terry Pratchett Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] vivekagrawal83 wants to keep up with you on Twitter
How does backwardness connect with freed. i wonder if by the same logic progress and modernity connect with vista can i also get some gyan on it. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] vivekagrawal83 wants to keep up with you on Twitter
Priya Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey Raj others... Right now I need to go for a meeting, but I will answer each point if and when I get the chance... meanwhile, here's a rejoinder from me... [snip amazing and disjointed rant, tying in Modi, communism, religion in one breath with ILUG-D] Is this a troll? PJ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] vivekagrawal83 wants to keep up with you on Twitter
[snip amazing and disjointed rant, tying in Modi, communism, religion in one breath with ILUG-D] Is this a troll? PJ Yes it is . ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] vivekagrawal83 wants to keep up with you on Twitter
On Jan 9, 2008 2:07 PM, Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can anyone set up (fund?) a group sms subscriber service as well, which sends one sms tip a day or something? I could try sending SMS tips from say an RSS feed if there is some interest. But it would be difficult to keep the sending SMS part free for long. regards niyam ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- Puneet http://sahyog.blogspot.com/ Latest Post: Tutorial on SVN setup and usage ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] vivekagrawal83 wants to keep up with you on Twitter
Hi, Can we have a show of hands on immediately banning thoughtless people that pull this kind of nonsense on a mailing list. If required, the ban could be rescinded on suitable explanation, or after a fixed length of time. On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 01:30 +, vivekagrawal83 wrote: To find out more about Twitter, visit the link below: http://twitter.com/i/a9865de55cbc1add8dd4e4aba1f32dfc3ea840f2 Thanks, -The Twitter Team About Twitter Twitter is a unique approach to communication and networking based on the simple concept of status. [...] Yeah, apparently one where communication is forced down one's throat. Regards, Gora ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] vivekagrawal83 wants to keep up with you on Twitter
Hi, Can we have a show of hands on immediately banning thoughtless people that pull this kind of nonsense on a mailing list. If required, the ban could be rescinded on suitable explanation, or after a fixed length of time. Cool. On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 01:30 +, vivekagrawal83 wrote: To find out more about Twitter, visit the link below: http://twitter.com/i/a9865de55cbc1add8dd4e4aba1f32dfc3ea840f2 Thanks, -The Twitter Team About Twitter Twitter is a unique approach to communication and networking based on the simple concept of status. [...] Yeah, apparently one where communication is forced down one's throat. Factually incorrect but this is not the place for me to discuss that - when we meet - if you like. Cheers. R ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] vivekagrawal83 wants to keep up with you on Twitter
On 1/9/08, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Can we have a show of hands on immediately banning thoughtless people that pull this kind of nonsense on a mailing list. If required, the ban could be rescinded on suitable explanation, or after a fixed length of time. +100 from me. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] vivekagrawal83 wants to keep up with you on Twitter
[snip] may i recommend: a. a temporary suspend of the account with a transparent reason worded politely. b. three counts of such suspension are followed by a ban. c. three counts of a ban.. oh wait! [decides to abstain from...] :-) niyam ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] vivekagrawal83 wants to keep up with you on Twitter
On 1/9/08, Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] may i recommend: a. a temporary suspend of the account with a transparent reason worded politely. b. three counts of such suspension are followed by a ban. c. three counts of a ban.. oh wait! [decides to abstain from...] :-) niyam What do you recommend for indulging in groupism and cursing the darkness ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] vivekagrawal83 wants to keep up with you on Twitter
Gora Mohanty wrote: Hi, Can we have a show of hands on immediately banning thoughtless people that pull this kind of nonsense on a mailing list. If required, the ban could be rescinded Aww. It is just a case of people still figuring out how to live on the Net. I would suggest that instead of using the word ban (I have just been hearing it too much in the media recently for other things), we use the word temporary suspension instead. Internet etiquette and especially that in open source communities is not intuitive to people coming from meatspace(there, i always wanted to use that word :-P). It might seem intuitive in retrospect, but I insist it is not, otherwise. Yes, people do need to be made aware of network etiquette, but perhaps a gentler disciplinary approach transitioning to a tougher message over time is better. - Sandip ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] vivekagrawal83 wants to keep up with you on Twitter
What do you recommend for indulging in groupism and cursing the darkness a) make sure it is the right kind of groupism. b) enjoy cursing the darkness, as the darkness never curses back. look! now i've started twittering here. sigh! you become what you reject. - Dogen, the great zen master. regards niyam bhushan -- niyam bhushan ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] vivekagrawal83 wants to keep up with you on Twitter
On Wednesday 09 Jan 2008, Linux Lingam wrote: [snip] may i recommend: a. a temporary suspend of the account with a transparent reason worded politely. b. three counts of such suspension are followed by a ban. c. three counts of a ban.. oh wait! [decides to abstain from...] Thanks for volunteering to write the application that will keep track of each user's misdemeanours, his/her suspension period, his/her suspension revocation time, count of number of bans/suspensions, etc! I'm sure the list admin (Kishore) doesn't have time for keeping track of all this. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ Freedom in Technology Software || February 2008 || http://freed.in/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
