Re: [ilugd] why?????What benefits???

2006-03-28 Thread Raj Shekhar
in infinite wisdom ankit walia spoke thus  On 03/27/2006 10:13 PM:

> 1) if a person puts his efforts in making a gud software,ok,then why he puts
> his code openly,i agree that its benefits others,now see another question in
> row.


See http://rajshekhar.net/content/view/3/26/ , especially the section 
"Lets Talk Economics"

> 
> 2) i dont know much about GPL and other type of licences,but what my friend
> said that if someone purchases some software like we were talking about zend
> studio then zend people will give them the source code of zend studio. is
> this right?

With Free Software (GPL, Apache, BSD, Artistic and other Free software 
licenses http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html ) , you get the 
source code as well as the the freedom to change and redistribute (for 
free or for a fees) the software.  However, when you get the source for 
proprietary software, they come without these freedom.  Have a look at 
the four freedoms that free software give you 
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html

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Re: [ilugd] why?????What benefits???

2006-03-28 Thread आशीष शुक्ला \"Wah Java !!\"
Hi,

A good resource is:

Understanding Open Source and Free Software Licensing
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/osfreesoft/book/

Available in PDFs

Thanx,
Ashish Shukla "Wah Java !!"
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Re: [ilugd] why?????What benefits???

2006-03-28 Thread abhinav sahai
On 3/27/06, mehul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 3/27/06, ankit walia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > 1) if a person puts his efforts in making a gud software,ok,then why he
> > puts
> > his code openly,i agree that its benefits others,now see another question
> > in
> > row.
>
>
>  Well one benefit is that if the code is seen,people can trust the software
> as there can be no malicious or nasty feature in the software.Another is,if
> others can see the code they can make improvements to the software and
> submit it back to the developer and many times bugs can be removed by the
> users rather than the developers.
>
> 2) i dont know much about GPL and other type of licences,but what my friend
> > said that if someone purchases some software like we were talking about
> > zend
> > studio then zend people will give them the source code of zend studio. is
> > this right?
>
>
> You need not give them out the source necessarily but the source of
> software should be placed in a
>  place that is easily accessible and you should give information on
> how to access it. But, you have to
>  give the source if the person asks for it specifically, but you can
> charge as per
> your wishes for the media eg a CD or a DVD
>
> if that was right and someone purchases that
> > or any s/w with source code then can he make the some modification n sell
> > using his own tag(ofcourse he can do modification).
> >
>
> Yes the other person can do that but he has to give credits to the original
> developer.
>

But who knows whether the a software produced by him has been
reproduced by some other party and selling it. I mean, is there
anybody who takes care of it(whether the original developer is being
credited or not)?

> PS:- There are many OSS licenses like GPL, LGPL, CDDL, BSD License,
> etc. I haven't read any of them properly. The answers above may not be
> applicable to some of the licenses. You should read them properly if you
> want to deal with them.
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Re: [ilugd] why?????What benefits???

2006-03-27 Thread Gaurav Mishra
On 3/27/06, ankit walia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> **hi all,
>
> I was discussing with my friends about open source n Linux.
>
> I want to ask u people some queries on the same..
>
> 1) if a person puts his efforts in making a gud software,ok,then why he puts
> his code openly,i agree that its benefits others,now see another question in
> row.
>

A good software doesn`t become good by just the starting code, the
bugs are the reality and finding bugs is a painful job, u can`t except
people whom u have sell the code to find bugs , Next major portion is
right documentation and that too in as much as languages to get to the
most of the people . These two things apart from making your code 
more efficient is a major driving force for open source.

> 2) i dont know much about GPL and other type of licences,but what my friend
> said that if someone purchases some software like we were talking about zend
> studio then zend people will give them the source code of zend studio. is
> this right?
>
I don`t have idea about zend , the companies too go this way .The open
source software is also called FLOSS (free liberal open source
software) , the liberal or in hindi mukt means the same thing, i.e u
are getting the code with purchase. The Free software doesn`t mean
free as in apple , it means free in spirit. And this is the concept of
open source.


> ok now 1 more thing
>
> if that was right and someone purchases that
> or any s/w with source code then can he make the some modification n sell
> using his own tag(ofcourse he can do modification).
>

yes he can in some licences, But the Recognition to the main developer
is necessary and ethical.


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Re: [ilugd] why?????What benefits???

2006-03-27 Thread mehul
On 3/27/06, ankit walia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 1) if a person puts his efforts in making a gud software,ok,then why he
> puts
> his code openly,i agree that its benefits others,now see another question
> in
> row.


 Well one benefit is that if the code is seen,people can trust the software
as there can be no malicious or nasty feature in the software.Another is,if
others can see the code they can make improvements to the software and
submit it back to the developer and many times bugs can be removed by the
users rather than the developers.

2) i dont know much about GPL and other type of licences,but what my friend
> said that if someone purchases some software like we were talking about
> zend
> studio then zend people will give them the source code of zend studio. is
> this right?


You need not give them out the source necessarily but the source of
software should be placed in a
 place that is easily accessible and you should give information on
how to access it. But, you have to
 give the source if the person asks for it specifically, but you can
charge as per
your wishes for the media eg a CD or a DVD

if that was right and someone purchases that
> or any s/w with source code then can he make the some modification n sell
> using his own tag(ofcourse he can do modification).
>

Yes the other person can do that but he has to give credits to the original
developer.

PS:- There are many OSS licenses like GPL, LGPL, CDDL, BSD License,
etc. I haven't read any of them properly. The answers above may not be
applicable to some of the licenses. You should read them properly if you
want to deal with them.
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[ilugd] why?????What benefits???

2006-03-27 Thread ankit walia
**hi all,

I was discussing with my friends about open source n Linux.

I want to ask u people some queries on the same..

1) if a person puts his efforts in making a gud software,ok,then why he puts
his code openly,i agree that its benefits others,now see another question in
row.

2) i dont know much about GPL and other type of licences,but what my friend
said that if someone purchases some software like we were talking about zend
studio then zend people will give them the source code of zend studio. is
this right?

ok now 1 more thing

if that was right and someone purchases that
or any s/w with source code then can he make the some modification n sell
using his own tag(ofcourse he can do modification).

plz reply...

bye!!
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