Re: [ilugd] Invitation for a talk at NSIT
Hi Deepank, Thanks for extending the invitation. I would certainly look forward for the fest. Kamal Dave Advocate & Legal Advisor --- Deepank Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Actually if your senior gives you permission to > copy his/her thesis > > > it's > > > not a copyright violation. It may, however, be > deprecated for other > > > reasons (plagiarism, etc.). > > > > if you have permission it is not plagiarism either > > These are precisely the things that we are mostly > unaware of and I > have myself seen the importance of quoting other > people's work and > getting to know about licenses under which the > material you are > quoting has been registered. Kamal can be the > perfect person to help > us know about various issues related to licenses. > > We are going to have a technical fest - Innovision > in the first week > of October at NSIT which would be attended by > college students from > all over NCR. It will be great if Kamal and other > people could come to > give talks on various issues related to open-source. > I along with some > of my classmates am also organising a Linux > Challenge for a second > year in the row. And some talks by eminent people > from ILUG would > perfectly complement it. I had a talk with Dr. Gora > and Gaurav about > it too and both of them were very interested in the > endeavour. > > I hope Kamal, Ajay and others would be able to spare > their time for it. > > Regards > Deepank > > > On 31/08/2007, Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > On 31-Aug-07, at 8:09 AM, Raj Mathur wrote: > > > > > Actually if your senior gives you permission to > copy his/her thesis > > > it's > > > not a copyright violation. It may, however, be > deprecated for other > > > reasons (plagiarism, etc.). > > > > if you have permission it is not plagiarism either > > > > > > -- > > regards > > > > Kenneth Gonsalves > > Associate, NRC-FOSS > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org > > http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd > > Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, > 2007 > > Archives at: > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi > http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ > > > > > -- > Eschew Obfuscation > > ___ > ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org > http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd > Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 > Archives at: > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi > http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Invitation for a talk at NSIT
On Fri, 2007-08-31 at 23:16 +0530, Deepank Gupta wrote: [...] > We are going to have a technical fest - Innovision in the first week > of October at NSIT which would be attended by college students from > all over NCR. Unfortunately, many people from ILUG-Delhi will be away till the 4th of Oct. Off to Manali after Freed 2007. > It will be great if Kamal and other people could come to > give talks on various issues related to open-source. I along with some > of my classmates am also organising a Linux Challenge for a second > year in the row. And some talks by eminent people from ILUG would > perfectly complement it. I had a talk with Dr. Gora and Gaurav about > it too and both of them were very interested in the endeavour. [...] (Please drop the "Dr.". It is perfectly fine to call me just Gora.) I am on board certainly for the 5th. As for Innovision, and other events, it depends on when they are held. Regards, Gora ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Invitation for a talk at NSIT
> > Actually if your senior gives you permission to copy his/her thesis > > it's > > not a copyright violation. It may, however, be deprecated for other > > reasons (plagiarism, etc.). > > if you have permission it is not plagiarism either These are precisely the things that we are mostly unaware of and I have myself seen the importance of quoting other people's work and getting to know about licenses under which the material you are quoting has been registered. Kamal can be the perfect person to help us know about various issues related to licenses. We are going to have a technical fest - Innovision in the first week of October at NSIT which would be attended by college students from all over NCR. It will be great if Kamal and other people could come to give talks on various issues related to open-source. I along with some of my classmates am also organising a Linux Challenge for a second year in the row. And some talks by eminent people from ILUG would perfectly complement it. I had a talk with Dr. Gora and Gaurav about it too and both of them were very interested in the endeavour. I hope Kamal, Ajay and others would be able to spare their time for it. Regards Deepank On 31/08/2007, Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 31-Aug-07, at 8:09 AM, Raj Mathur wrote: > > > Actually if your senior gives you permission to copy his/her thesis > > it's > > not a copyright violation. It may, however, be deprecated for other > > reasons (plagiarism, etc.). > > if you have permission it is not plagiarism either > > > -- > regards > > Kenneth Gonsalves > Associate, NRC-FOSS > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ > > > > > ___ > ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org > http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd > Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 > Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi > http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ > -- Eschew Obfuscation ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Invitation for a talk at NSIT
On 31-Aug-07, at 8:09 AM, Raj Mathur wrote: > Actually if your senior gives you permission to copy his/her thesis > it's > not a copyright violation. It may, however, be deprecated for other > reasons (plagiarism, etc.). if you have permission it is not plagiarism either -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Invitation for a talk at NSIT
On 8/31/07, Shiv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > - Original Message > From: Linux Lingam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Dr. Gora? > > > >n > Thats what his business card normally says! > he has a doctorate (PhD) in astrophysics! Karunakar ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Invitation for a talk at NSIT
- Original Message From: Linux Lingam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Dr. Gora? > >n Thats what his business card normally says! With Warm Regards, Shivkumar linux user no: 450769 blog: outbackwifi.blogspot.com website: www.outbackwifi.com "See you at 'Freed.in - freedom in technology & software' - India's leading free and open source community event. 28- 29 September 2007, New Delhi. Entry free, on first come basis. Register at http://Freed.in"; Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Invitation for a talk at NSIT
On Friday 31 August 2007 00:45, Shakthi Kannan wrote: > Hi, > > - On 8/30/07, Deepank Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | But I do not think that it will be a right idea to get students > | into legal details of open-source as although it makes up a great > | topic to hear to for a 3rd or a 4th year student, a 1st year may > | feel lost in the talk. > > \-- Nice quoting ;) > Actually, you should. But, it should be addressed in a way that is > applicable to students. > > 1. They need to understand what licenses and copyright are. Why it is > copyright infringement if they copy their senior's final year thesis > or copy text from books without quoting any references, and submit it > as their final year project thesis. Also, the relevance to software > [snip] Actually if your senior gives you permission to copy his/her thesis it's not a copyright violation. It may, however, be deprecated for other reasons (plagiarism, etc.). Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ Freedom in Technology & Software || September 2007 || http://freed.in/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Invitation for a talk at NSIT
On 31-Aug-07, at 12:45 AM, Shakthi Kannan wrote: > as their final year project thesis. Also, the relevance to software > licenses, and use of GPL, BSD, ASL, APL, MPL, MIT ... -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Invitation for a talk at NSIT
On 30-Aug-07, at 10:34 PM, Linux Lingam wrote: > Dr. Gora? Herr Doktor? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Invitation for a talk at NSIT
Hi, - On 8/30/07, Deepank Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | But I do not think that it will be a right idea to get students into | legal details of open-source as although it makes up a great topic to | hear to for a 3rd or a 4th year student, a 1st year may feel lost in | the talk. \-- Actually, you should. But, it should be addressed in a way that is applicable to students. 1. They need to understand what licenses and copyright are. Why it is copyright infringement if they copy their senior's final year thesis or copy text from books without quoting any references, and submit it as their final year project thesis. Also, the relevance to software licenses, and use of GPL, and documentation licenses like FDL, CC etc. in FOSS projects. 2. But, it should be made as a brief talk, just emphasizing what they should know, so they understand the importance of it and its implications. SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Invitation for a talk at NSIT
Hi Kamal, It is really great that you have offered to volunteer for a talk at NSIT. You can really help us decide which licenses to choose while starting up our own software projects. Often, many new startups face problems related to licenses, and who would be more qualified than you to give advise to startups in legal matters. But I do not think that it will be a right idea to get students into legal details of open-source as although it makes up a great topic to hear to for a 3rd or a 4th year student, a 1st year may feel lost in the talk. Moreover, it would be unfair to squeeze in 4 talks in a span of 2 hours. If you will be willing, we will schedule a talk solely on legal issues relating to open-source later in this semester. @Linuxlingam : Have I made a mistake in addressing Gora Mohanty as a doctor. I would like to apologise for the misunderstanding. Thanks to all for the wonderful response from the ILUG community. Regards Deepank. On 30/08/2007, Linux Lingam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [snip] In addition to that, Dr. Gora > > will definitely want to talk about the localization of Linux in Indian > > languages. > > > > Regards > > Deepank. > > > > Dr. Gora? > > n > > ___ > ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org > http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd > Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 > Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi > http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ > -- Eschew Obfuscation ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Invitation for a talk at NSIT
[snip] In addition to that, Dr. Gora > will definitely want to talk about the localization of Linux in Indian > languages. > > Regards > Deepank. > Dr. Gora? n ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Invitation for a talk at NSIT
Hi Deepank, I can talk about legal issues relating to open source/ copyright that I would be covering in Freed.in. Thanks Kamal Dave --- Deepank Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > @Sudev : Thats great. > > @Gaurav : We would like to have the talk > concentrating on the methods > by which open source development is done and how we > as students can > involve ourselves with the open-source development. > Gaurav, you > yourself can give your example of how you got a job > with Dinesh in > United Villages through open-source. In addition to > that, Dr. Gora > will definitely want to talk about the localization > of Linux in Indian > languages. > > Regards > Deepank. > > > > > > > > On 30/08/2007, Sudev Barar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 30/08/2007, Deepank Gupta > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Dear all, > > > > > > I, a student at NSIT, would like to invite ILUG > members for a talk on > > > Linux in general and freed in particular at NSIT > on 5th September, > > > Wednesday, 3:30 - 5:30 P.M. > > > > Good show Deepank. As we need to talk about Linux > + Freed.In we should > > restrict the numbers of "speechers" to two/three. > This way more > > colleges and institutions will get covered. > > Right now it is Gora, Gaurav and Niyam for NIST? > > -- > > Regards, > > Sudev Barar > > > > See you at 'Freed.in - freedom in technology & > software' - India's > > leading free and open source community event. 28- > 29 September 2007, > > New Delhi. Entry free, on first come basis. > Register at > > http://Freed.in > > > > ___ > > ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org > > http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd > > Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, > 2007 > > Archives at: > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi > http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ > > > > > -- > Eschew Obfuscation > > ___ > ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org > http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd > Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 > Archives at: > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi > http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Invitation for a talk at NSIT
On 8/30/07, Sudev Barar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 30/08/2007, Deepank Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > I, a student at NSIT, would like to invite ILUG members for a talk on > > Linux in general and freed in particular at NSIT on 5th September, > > Wednesday, 3:30 - 5:30 P.M. > > Good show Deepank. As we need to talk about Linux + Freed.In we should > restrict the numbers of "speechers" to two/three. This way more > colleges and institutions will get covered. > Right now it is Gora, Gaurav and Niyam for NIST? > Ummm.. It's NSIT (Netaji Subhas Institute of technology), not NIST :) -- Anupam ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Invitation for a talk at NSIT
Hi, @Sudev : Thats great. @Gaurav : We would like to have the talk concentrating on the methods by which open source development is done and how we as students can involve ourselves with the open-source development. Gaurav, you yourself can give your example of how you got a job with Dinesh in United Villages through open-source. In addition to that, Dr. Gora will definitely want to talk about the localization of Linux in Indian languages. Regards Deepank. On 30/08/2007, Sudev Barar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 30/08/2007, Deepank Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > I, a student at NSIT, would like to invite ILUG members for a talk on > > Linux in general and freed in particular at NSIT on 5th September, > > Wednesday, 3:30 - 5:30 P.M. > > Good show Deepank. As we need to talk about Linux + Freed.In we should > restrict the numbers of "speechers" to two/three. This way more > colleges and institutions will get covered. > Right now it is Gora, Gaurav and Niyam for NIST? > -- > Regards, > Sudev Barar > > See you at 'Freed.in - freedom in technology & software' - India's > leading free and open source community event. 28- 29 September 2007, > New Delhi. Entry free, on first come basis. Register at > http://Freed.in > > ___ > ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org > http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd > Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 > Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi > http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ > -- Eschew Obfuscation ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Invitation for a talk at NSIT
On 30/08/2007, Deepank Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear all, > > I, a student at NSIT, would like to invite ILUG members for a talk on > Linux in general and freed in particular at NSIT on 5th September, > Wednesday, 3:30 - 5:30 P.M. Good show Deepank. As we need to talk about Linux + Freed.In we should restrict the numbers of "speechers" to two/three. This way more colleges and institutions will get covered. Right now it is Gora, Gaurav and Niyam for NIST? -- Regards, Sudev Barar See you at 'Freed.in - freedom in technology & software' - India's leading free and open source community event. 28- 29 September 2007, New Delhi. Entry free, on first come basis. Register at http://Freed.in ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Invitation for a talk at NSIT
On 8/30/07, Deepank Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear all, > > I, a student at NSIT, would like to invite ILUG members for a talk on > Linux in general and freed in particular at NSIT on 5th September, > Wednesday, 3:30 - 5:30 P.M. > kewl, A lot of people have shown interest to give a talk, can you quickly put done something specific talks you want or we come banging the OSS band to college +1 from my side. -- See you at 'Freed.in - freedom in technology & software' - India's leading free and open source community event. 28- 29 September 2007, New Delhi. Entry free, on first come basis. Register at http://Freed.in Linux User #348873 ILUGD General Secretary, GZLUG Moderator RKGIT Alumni(Guiding Light) Software Engineer , UnitedVillages http://gauravmishra.info/blog "When i can run , i will run , When i can walk , i will walk, When i can crawl , i will crawl. But i will not stop moving forward" ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
