Re: New Mac
On Jan 9, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Amanda Ward wrote: Hi All, I finally broke down and bought a new Mac. Okay... all the Macs I've bought have been new =to me=, but this one is like really new... I'm owner number one. It's the iMac 20 2.4GHz model. I =really= want the 24 3.06 GHz, but do I really NEED it. No prolly not. I'm a little amazed at the performance increase over my G4/1.6GHz. Gregory wasn't a slouch, but Irving (the iMac) just screams! He has 1GB ram... would increasing to 2GB show a significant performance boost? I don't do a lot of heavy graphics/video/audio work... mostly watching movies while working on an occasional spreadsheet. Lastly... can an Intel Mac boot Tiger... and do it from an external Firewire drive? I ask because I have a few apps that aren't upgraded for Leopard. On the G4 running 10.5 , I could boot from the external drive with 10.4 and run them. Thanks for any advice Amanda Welcome to the Intel iMac Club! Your easiest upgrade is to max out the RAM, which is very inexpensive these days. I recently bought a pair of 2 GB sticks for my mid-2007 iMac 20 2.4 GHz for about $50, shipped, from OWC. A similar 4 GB upgrade for yours runs about the same. Even at 2 GB, you will notice an improvement, but you'll definitely see it with 4 GB. Generally speaking, a stock Mac cannot boot and run from an OS that predates the one installed at the factory. So you won't be able to boot 10.4 from an external drive and run it on your Intel iMac. And, yes, I really wanted a 24 too, but $ is $. :^) Jim --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New Mac
Amanda I bought an Intel iMac 17 1.83Ghz when the first came out and it came with 512MB of RAM (running Tiger), the jump to 1GB made a massive improvement. The move from 1GB to 2GB was also noticeable. I would recommend upping from 1GB to 2GB especially under Leopard. Intel Macs can run Tiger, but you need an Intel version of Tiger. A Leopard DVD will install on either PowerPC or Intel machine. Tiger however requires specific discs depending on the architecture you are using. All retail versions of Tiger prior to 10.4.4 were PowerPC only. After 10.4.4 you can install them on either architecture (someone correct me if I am wrong). Intel Macs use APM as a partition scheme but Intel use GUID as a partitioning scheme. Therefore a Tiger/Leopard installation from a PowerPC Mac will not boot an Intel Mac and visa versa. If you require Tiger on an external, I suggest you find a retail version of Tiger which is higher than 10.4.4 and install it on an external drive with GUID partitioning. Simon On 9 Jan 2009, at 22:20, Amanda Ward wrote: Hi All, I finally broke down and bought a new Mac. Okay... all the Macs I've bought have been new =to me=, but this one is like really new... I'm owner number one. It's the iMac 20 2.4GHz model. I =really= want the 24 3.06 GHz, but do I really NEED it. No prolly not. I'm a little amazed at the performance increase over my G4/1.6GHz. Gregory wasn't a slouch, but Irving (the iMac) just screams! He has 1GB ram... would increasing to 2GB show a significant performance boost? I don't do a lot of heavy graphics/video/audio work... mostly watching movies while working on an occasional spreadsheet. Lastly... can an Intel Mac boot Tiger... and do it from an external Firewire drive? I ask because I have a few apps that aren't upgraded for Leopard. On the G4 running 10.5 , I could boot from the external drive with 10.4 and run them. Thanks for any advice Amanda --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk --- sent from my PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, Mac OSX 10.5 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New Mac
On 9 Jan 2009, at 22:36, Jim Scott wrote: Generally speaking, a stock Mac cannot boot and run from an OS that predates the one installed at the factory. So you won't be able to boot 10.4 from an external drive and run it on your Intel iMac. On Jan 9, 2009, at 2:45 PM, Simon Royal wrote: Jim Thanks. I had forgotten that. Depending on which model she has will depend on her option for booting to 10.4 There is a 20 2.4Ghz Core 2 Duo model from 2007 that originally came with 10.4 and was later shipped with 10.5 - so therefore this model will be able to boot to an 10.4 installation on an external drive. There is also a 20 2.4Ghz Core 2 Duo from 2008, this only came with 10.5 and therefore your comment is correct. Simon Yes, assuming Amanda's is a new Intel iMac, which her comments indicated to me, it will not be able to boot from any version of OS 10.4. However, my Intel iMac, which was bought new in October 2007, shipped with OS 10.4.10 installed. And because it shipped the very day, Oct. 26, Leopard was introduced, a copy of Mac OS X Leopard CPU Drop-in DVD was included in the box. So, Amanda, if you're reading this and want to trade for an Intel iMac that will boot both 10.4.10 and 10.5.6, let's talk. Heh-heh. :^) Jim --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New Mac
On Jan 9, 2009, at 3:40 PM, Simon Royal wrote: Amanda I bought an Intel iMac 17 1.83Ghz when the first came out and it came with 512MB of RAM (running Tiger), the jump to 1GB made a massive improvement. The move from 1GB to 2GB was also noticeable. I would recommend upping from 1GB to 2GB especially under Leopard. I concur..upgrading the memory is cheap and effective. I have the 20 Core Duo model, and with 1GB it was heir to all sorts of maddening slowdowns and pauses. I typically have a lot of apps open, but none very heavy on the CPU. Intel Macs can run Tiger, but you need an Intel version of Tiger. Not the new AL ones. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
