Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-25 Thread Mystic Prowler
I have a direct link to the site that Apple has it's Mac OS X lion page.
This OS is coming out in Summer 2011.

www.apple.com/macosx/lion

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Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-25 Thread Mystic Prowler
Okay okay... I read it a while ago too... but don't be so hard on me.

I thought some didn't know. please close this discussion.

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Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-25 Thread Ashgrove
On Oct 25, 2:26 pm, Mystic Prowler coolmar...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have a direct link to the site that Apple has it's Mac OS X lion page.
 This OS is coming out in Summer 2011.

 www.apple.com/macosx/lion

Well, it will probably leave out in the cold some early Intel Macs,
and a lot of people will hate it, but Lion is going to be a
looker... :-)

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Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-25 Thread Mystic Prowler
Yes it sure will be. Strange to know that some Macs shipped with OS X 10.5
and can only go to OS X 10.6.

My G4 sawtooth has a wide range of operating systems...
Mac OS 8.6-Mac OS X 10.5.8

some later lower end core duo machines shipped with leopard

I do think it is not going to be a list of unsupported processors, but more
of a bold statement of obsoleteness.
It's not just core duo and all of the early intel macs that will have no
more support, but I think that Apple is dropping support basically for ALL
32-bit intel macs. I don't understand My iMac G5 is 64-bit but Apple
doesn't support it anymore. If they make (It won't happen, though for a
FACT) a version of OS X 10.7 for G5's only, then i would be happy. because
OS X 10.6 is all about optimization and 64-bit stuff. G5's are 64-bit, so
why drop support for them?

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Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-25 Thread Steven
On Oct 25, 2010, at 3:24 PM, Mystic Prowler wrote:

 Yes it sure will be. Strange to know that some Macs shipped with OS X 10.5 
 and can only go to OS X 10.6.

I don't see any reason to assume that Lion will drop support for early Intel 
processors. The three year life of the final PowerPC Macs (2006 to Snow Leopard 
in 2009) was unprecedented. Even the G3 processor required by the final release 
version of Mac OS X in 2001 allowed four year old Power Macintosh computers 
from 1997 to run the new software. While I don't necessarily like it, I do 
understand why they dropped support, and now that the software is all-Intel 
there is no reason that the next two or three releases would need to drop 
support (once again, consider early OS X - support for the systems remained 
exactly the same (any G3 processor) from the earliest builds in the late 1990s 
to the release of Panther in late 2003, and by the time Tiger was at the end of 
its life in 2007, system compatibility went back eight years to the 1999 
PowerMac G3). They may increase the RAM requirement, and from the video 
demonstrations it will require a Magic Mouse or multitouch trackpad, but I 
think the processors are probably safe.

 OS X 10.6 is all about optimization and 64-bit stuff. G5's are 64-bit, so why 
 drop support for them?

They dropped support for G5 because it is an entirely different architecture. 
Just because they are 64 bit doesn't mean they are in any way similar to Intel 
chips, and keeping software up to date for two completely different 
architectures causes programs to become bloated with unnecessary code. While I 
still prefer PowerPC and wish I could use some of Snow Leopard's features on my 
PowerBook G4, I understand why they did it. Apple is trying to move away from 
PowerPC and force software developers to design for Intel processors, and they 
are trying not to repeat the switch from OS 9 to OS X, where even years after 
everyone had moved on many programs, including some of Apple's own, were still 
built with the tools originally meant to serve only as a step between OS 9 and 
OS X.

Steven

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Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-25 Thread Dennis B. Swaney

On 25/10/10 13:24PDT, Mystic Prowler wrote:


G5's are 64-bit, so why drop support for them?



Because Apple wants to sell you ANOTHER muti-thousand dollar computer.

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Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-25 Thread Mystic Prowler
I do need a new MBA as my newest machine is an iMac G5.

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Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-25 Thread Dennis B. Swaney

On 25/10/10 15:44PDT, Mystic Prowler wrote:

I do need a new MBA as my newest machine is an iMac G5.



I have a G5 as my main desktop. However, I can't justify getting a new 
computer unless it croaks beyond recovery. My secondary computer was a 
G4 PowerBook, but it has been pretty much superseded by my iPad.


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Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!

2010-10-25 Thread Steven
On Oct 25, 2010, at 5:44 PM, Mystic Prowler wrote:

 I do need a new MBA as my newest machine is an iMac G5.

Personally I wouldn't want that. In my experience, the laptop should always 
have lower specifications than the desktop. When I first switched to Mac I used 
an iBook G4 as my main computer for three years, and it is not something I want 
to do again. I have found that my ideal setup is a reasonably powerful desktop 
and an older laptop. For example, right now I have a 20 Intel iMac, and if I 
wanted to upgrade my 17 PowerBook G4 to a 17 MacBook Pro, my only option 
would be the very first model, since it has the same specifications as my 
desktop. If I got a more powerful MacBook Pro, or one with the 1920x1200 
screen, I would start using the laptop more than the desktop, and then I would 
be back fighting with the limitations of having a laptop as my main computer. 
That's why my plan is to upgrade to a 27 iMac in about a year and possibly get 
an older used MacBook Pro sometime after that.

Of course, with all the limitations of the MacBook Air it probably wouldn't be 
so easy to use it as a main computer, but there would definitely be a speed 
increase from PowerPC to Intel which would make you want to use it more often.

Steven

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