Reassembled 24" iMac, Minor Problem

2011-09-15 Thread Eric Volker
After experiencing numerous overheating problems with my 24" iMac, I
went ahead and disassembled it and blew all the dust out. While I was
in there, I upgraded to a 2TB hard drive. I put it back together, and
everything seems to be working properly. Well, except for one minor
problem. There appears to be a very narrow strip of cloth blocking the
RAM slot screw. I don't know where it came from or how to get rid of
it/move it out of the way. I really don't want to fully disassemble
the thing just to get get the RAM cover back on. Can I get rid of it
with a few strategic cuts of a razor blade? Has anyone else who has
disassembled an iMac seen this before?

Thanks...

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Re: Incorrect Number Of Thread Records

2011-09-15 Thread Dan

At 4:45 PM -0700 9/15/2011, Jasiu wrote:

17" g5 iMac which worked fine til this morning. It shut itself down


Was there some sort of power failure?  Were things running hot?  Has 
a sudden shutdown happened previously?



and when I went to restart I got a reassuring BONG


Ok.  So your CPU, memory, and buses are probably ok.


and the blue background of the desktop popped up sans icons. Mouse doesn't
work


Perhaps a HD failure.


Ran Applejack from Open Firmware


No.  You ran AppleJack from the root account of OS X, while booted 
into Single User Mode.


and it said something about incorrect number of thread records, 
invalid volume file count.


The files system on your HD has been corrupted, perhaps the data areas also.

It also says that there is a missing directory record and Applejack 
was not able to fix

the disc.


AppleJack is simply a shell script that runs various utilities.

fsck, aka Disk Utility, was unable to repair the disk volume.


Any idea of what to do?


As others have said, try a different tool.  You can try booting on 
your OS X DVD, or an external drive, and running a Repair Disk pass 
with Disk Utility -- but I doubt that will work, as fsck has already 
failed.


The next best tool is DiskWarrior.  Fsck tries to repair the file 
system in-place.  DiskWarrior is a bigger hammer - it will try to 
rebuild the file system from scratch, making a whole new one.


Of course, this doesn't say much toward the actual cause.  If your HD 
is failing, then the only point of doing the repair work would be to 
get it to the point you can make a backup...


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Re: Incorrect Number Of Thread Records

2011-09-15 Thread Jim Scott

On Sep 15, 2011, at 6:09 PM, Tina K. wrote:

> On 2011/09/15 17:54, Jim Scott so eloquently wrote:
>> Sounds as if you've got either a hard drive problem or a directory
>> problem, or most likely the latter caused by the former.
>> 
>> I would boot from the OS X install disk and run Disk Utility>First
>> Aid>Repair Disk until it has fixed everything or until it says it
>> can't fix it.
>> 
>> If Repair Disk fixes everything, then your machine should boot from
>> the hard drive. If it doesn't, then beg, borrow or buy a copy of
>> DiskWarrior that's appropriate for your version of OS X. DiskWarrior
>> is absolutely superb at fixing the type of problems you report.
>> 
>> If DiskWarrior doesn't fix the problem, then you very likely have a
>> failing hard drive, a not uncommon problem.
> 
> If it is indeed a failing HDD, shouldn't the first step be to back it up
> before trying to repair the directory?
> 
Normally, you would be correct: back it up first. However, in the case in this 
thread, that is not possible because the user can't even boot from the hard 
drive. 

Jim Scott

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Re: Incorrect Number Of Thread Records

2011-09-15 Thread Tina K.

On 2011/09/15 17:54, Jim Scott so eloquently wrote:

Sounds as if you've got either a hard drive problem or a directory
problem, or most likely the latter caused by the former.

I would boot from the OS X install disk and run Disk Utility>First
Aid>Repair Disk until it has fixed everything or until it says it
can't fix it.

If Repair Disk fixes everything, then your machine should boot from
the hard drive. If it doesn't, then beg, borrow or buy a copy of
DiskWarrior that's appropriate for your version of OS X. DiskWarrior
is absolutely superb at fixing the type of problems you report.

If DiskWarrior doesn't fix the problem, then you very likely have a
failing hard drive, a not uncommon problem.


If it is indeed a failing HDD, shouldn't the first step be to back it up
before trying to repair the directory?

Tina

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Re: Smart Copy?

2011-09-15 Thread Gerald Uhlan
Hmm.  I must have had Speed Doubler at some point, because I used "Smart
Copy" often.  Then over the years, I lost it and miss it!  I could not
remember that it was once part of Speed Doubler.  Is there something out
there currently that will do the same thing in OS X (10.5.8, PPC)?  Apple
seriously needs to add it to the Finder!

On 9/15/11 7:32 PM, "Andrew Liu Anderson"  wrote:

> Hello All,
> 
> There was a sub-utility, I think it was part of Connectix Speed Doubler
> I think it was called "Smart Copy" and would allow you to, for example,
> drag the entire contents of a folder, group of folders,group of files,
> or even an entire drive to another drive. It would compare the files of
> the source and destination discs and only copy files that are new or
> updated. It may also have had the option of deleting files that are no
> longer on the source disc.
> 
> "Normal" copy doesn't do that. The only optons are to replace all, or
> cancel... Or go through the painstaking task of answering "replace
> file?" (or folder) for each and every file.
> 
> Is there a good utility for X that works like "Smart Copy?" Being that
> Speed Doubler worked on OS 8, I can't imagine it requiring OS 10.Jillion
> to work in X.
> 
> TIA
> Drew


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Re: Smart Copy?

2011-09-15 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Sep 15, 2011, at 4:32 PM, Andrew Liu Anderson wrote:

> Is there a good utility for X that works like "Smart Copy?" Being that Speed 
> Doubler worked on OS 8, I can't imagine it requiring OS 10.Jillion to work in 
> X.

Carbon Copy Cloner's backup routine works like that. So does Time Machine, for 
that matter (which I've not had any problems with on any of my Macs or the 10 
or so Macs I have using Time Machine here in the College.

One thing that's critical for trouble-free TM operation: good quality external 
drives. I've had the best luck with Seagate and Buffalo drives and the worst 
with WD and el-cheapo third party enclosures.


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Re: Incorrect Number Of Thread Records

2011-09-15 Thread Jim Scott

On Sep 15, 2011, at 4:45 PM, Jasiu wrote:

> i have a 17" g5 iMac which worked fine til this morning. It shut
> itself down and when I went to restart I got a reassuring BONG and the
> blue background of the desktop popped up sans icons. Mouse doesn't
> work
> 
> Ran Applejack from Open Firmware and it said something about incorrect
> number of thread records, invalid volume file count. It also says that
> there is a missing directory record and Applejack was not able to fix
> the disc.
> 
> Any idea of what to do?
> 

Sounds as if you've got either a hard drive problem or a directory problem, or 
most likely the latter caused by the former. 

I would boot from the OS X install disk and run Disk Utility>First Aid>Repair 
Disk until it has fixed everything or until it says it can't fix it.

If Repair Disk fixes everything, then your machine should boot from the hard 
drive. If it doesn't, then beg, borrow or buy a copy of DiskWarrior that's 
appropriate for your version of OS X. DiskWarrior is absolutely superb at 
fixing the type of problems you report.

If DiskWarrior doesn't fix the problem, then you very likely have a failing 
hard drive, a not uncommon problem.

Jim Scott

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Re: Incorrect Number Of Thread Records

2011-09-15 Thread Art
Insert the DiskWarrior CD, then boot up holding down the "c" key.

On Sep 15, 2011, at 4:51 PM, Jasiu wrote:
> The Imac wont boot into OSX.  As far as I can go now is a white screen
> with the grey Apple logo and thats it
> 
> On Sep 15, 7:47 pm, Art  wrote:
>> DiskWarrior?
>> 
>> On Sep 15, 2011, at 4:45 PM, Jasiu wrote:
>> 
>>> i have a 17" g5 iMac which worked fine til this morning. It shut
>>> itself down and when I went to restart I got a reassuring BONG and the
>>> blue background of the desktop popped up sans icons. Mouse doesn't
>>> work
>> 
>>> Ran Applejack from Open Firmware and it said something about incorrect
>>> number of thread records, invalid volume file count. It also says that
>>> there is a missing directory record and Applejack was not able to fix
>>> the disc.
>> 
>>> Any idea of what to do?
> 
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Re: Incorrect Number Of Thread Records

2011-09-15 Thread Jasiu
The Imac wont boot into OSX.  As far as I can go now is a white screen
with the grey Apple logo and thats it

On Sep 15, 7:47 pm, Art  wrote:
> DiskWarrior?
>
> On Sep 15, 2011, at 4:45 PM, Jasiu wrote:
>
> > i have a 17" g5 iMac which worked fine til this morning. It shut
> > itself down and when I went to restart I got a reassuring BONG and the
> > blue background of the desktop popped up sans icons. Mouse doesn't
> > work
>
> > Ran Applejack from Open Firmware and it said something about incorrect
> > number of thread records, invalid volume file count. It also says that
> > there is a missing directory record and Applejack was not able to fix
> > the disc.
>
> > Any idea of what to do?

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Re: Incorrect Number Of Thread Records

2011-09-15 Thread Art
DiskWarrior?

On Sep 15, 2011, at 4:45 PM, Jasiu wrote:

> i have a 17" g5 iMac which worked fine til this morning. It shut
> itself down and when I went to restart I got a reassuring BONG and the
> blue background of the desktop popped up sans icons. Mouse doesn't
> work
> 
> Ran Applejack from Open Firmware and it said something about incorrect
> number of thread records, invalid volume file count. It also says that
> there is a missing directory record and Applejack was not able to fix
> the disc.
> 
> Any idea of what to do?

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Incorrect Number Of Thread Records

2011-09-15 Thread Jasiu
i have a 17" g5 iMac which worked fine til this morning. It shut
itself down and when I went to restart I got a reassuring BONG and the
blue background of the desktop popped up sans icons. Mouse doesn't
work

Ran Applejack from Open Firmware and it said something about incorrect
number of thread records, invalid volume file count. It also says that
there is a missing directory record and Applejack was not able to fix
the disc.

Any idea of what to do?

John

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Re: Run Time Machine at Shut Down

2011-09-15 Thread Al Poulin


On Sep 15, 3:41 pm, Ashgrove  wrote:
> Al,
>
> Personally, I gave up on Time Machine a long time ago. It was nothing
> but trouble. Perhaps most of its old kinks have been already ironed by
> now, but I see from your posts that it's still buggy --three OS's
> later.

Hi Felix:

This is not about fixing bugs; it's about enhancements.

I love Time Machine.  I am not an early adopter and did not use Time
Machine until I picked up an early model Time Capsule on close-out.
This saved my bacon several times, within minutes of stupid mistakes.
I use CCC weekly to a separate drive.

I do not use a third-party TM scheduler simply because the ones I know
about do not have a feature I would use.

Al

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Smart Copy?

2011-09-15 Thread Andrew Liu Anderson

Hello All,

There was a sub-utility, I think it was part of Connectix Speed Doubler 
I think it was called "Smart Copy" and would allow you to, for example, 
drag the entire contents of a folder, group of folders,group of files, 
or even an entire drive to another drive. It would compare the files of 
the source and destination discs and only copy files that are new or 
updated. It may also have had the option of deleting files that are no 
longer on the source disc.


"Normal" copy doesn't do that. The only optons are to replace all, or 
cancel... Or go through the painstaking task of answering "replace 
file?" (or folder) for each and every file.


Is there a good utility for X that works like "Smart Copy?" Being that 
Speed Doubler worked on OS 8, I can't imagine it requiring OS 10.Jillion 
to work in X.


TIA
Drew

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Re: Run Time Machine at Shut Down

2011-09-15 Thread Ashgrove
Al,

Personally, I gave up on Time Machine a long time ago. It was nothing
but trouble. Perhaps most of its old kinks have been already ironed by
now, but I see from your posts that it's still buggy --three OS's
later.

I depend on good ole SuperDuper for my backups. Both my working Macs
get backed up once a day, in the wee hours when everybody but the cats
is asleep. They wake up, get backed up in perhaps five minutes, and go
back to sleep without so much as a hiccup. And the backups are
bootable, which is a plus for me. Don't get me wrong, I understand the
advantages of Time Machine, but are they worth the aggravation?

Best of luck,

Felix



On Sep 14, 8:41 pm, Al Poulin  wrote:
> I am looking for a Time Machine scheduler which can run a backup upon
> Shut Down and upon putting the Mac to sleep from the Apple menu.  Does
> such a thing exist?
>
> It appears that neither TimeMachineEditor nor TimeMachineScheduler can
> do this.
>
> Many Thanks,
> Al Poulin

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