Re: Moving an eMac from 10.2.8 to 10.4.11

2010-12-01 Thread Joshua Juran

On Nov 11, 2010, at 8:16 AM, Tina K. wrote:


On 2010/11/10 18:42, Mystic Prowler so eloquently wrote:

Tiger is a little dated, are you SURE you want to stick with tiger?


If Apple still provided security updates to Tiger I'd go back in a  
heartbeat.


But they don't.


And soon enough they'll drop support for Leopard as well.  What then?

Josh


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Re: Moving an eMac from 10.2.8 to 10.4.11

2010-11-12 Thread Mystic Prowler
It would be alot simpler to install the programs you want one one account
and move all the info from both accounts into one folder then placing the
documents in the appropriate folders.

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu
 wrote:


 On Nov 9, 2010, at 10:11 AM, Walter Sheluk wrote:

  On 10-11-09 10:01 AM, Ashgrove wrote:
  Merging two systems is a PITA no matter how you do it, and usually
 comes down to staring at two Finder windows dragging items from one to the
 other as you go through the files by hand.
  Can that be done with the Library, System, Users folders ?

 Users yes, Library, some things (Application Support folders, prefs and
 some plugins) , System NO. IN general, unless you really know what you're
 doing do NOT mess with the System folder.

 Do NOT try Migration Assistant; it does not merge user accounts, which is
 what you're doing.

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Re: Moving an eMac from 10.2.8 to 10.4.11

2010-11-11 Thread Mystic Prowler
I suggest trying leopard on it, that's what I did with my 700Mhz eMac.
Performance is good.

Tiger is a little dated, are you SURE you want to stick with tiger?

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Walter Sheluk wshe...@shaw.ca wrote:

 On 10-11-09 10:01 AM, Ashgrove wrote:

 Merging two systems is a PITA no matter how you do it, and usually comes
 down to staring at two Finder windows dragging items from one to the other
 as you go through the files by hand.

 Can that be done with the Library, System, Users folders ?



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RE: Moving an eMac from 10.2.8 to 10.4.11

2010-11-11 Thread Ramon Tate
On Thursday, November 11, 2010, at 03:08  AM, 
imaclist+nore...@googlegroups.com wrote:



Topic: Moving an eMac from 10.2.8 to 10.4.11

Walter Sheluk wshe...@shaw.ca Nov 09 10:11AM -0700 ^

 
On 10-11-09 10:01 AM, Ashgrove wrote:
 Merging two systems is a PITA no matter how you do it, and usually 
comes down to staring at two Finder windows dragging items from one to 
the other as you go through the files by hand.

Can that be done with the Library, System, Users folders ?


You anticipated my next question very nicely, Walter. Mail can at least 
be exported/imported more or less successfully (although it doesn't 
really give you an exact replica of the source tree structure, I 
believe). What about merging iTunes and bringing over users? Migration 
Assistant is/was supposed to know how to do that, but I'm not sure if 
it has the selectivity to allow the amount of picking and choosing I 
would like.


Finally, what about users with the same name? I know that since Mac OS 
uses the Unix scheme of totally unique ID generation for each user 
instance, it would seem that I shouldn't have any users on the target 
with the same names as those on the source system. Also, I would like 
to avoid migrating applications en masse and would rather do that 
manually.


And thanks again, everyone, for all the excellent advice.

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Re: Moving an eMac from 10.2.8 to 10.4.11

2010-11-11 Thread Tina K.

On 2010/11/10 18:42, Mystic Prowler so eloquently wrote:

Tiger is a little dated, are you SURE you want to stick with tiger?


If Apple still provided security updates to Tiger I'd go back in a 
heartbeat.


But they don't.

Tina

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Re: Moving an eMac from 10.2.8 to 10.4.11

2010-11-11 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Nov 9, 2010, at 10:11 AM, Walter Sheluk wrote:

 On 10-11-09 10:01 AM, Ashgrove wrote:
 Merging two systems is a PITA no matter how you do it, and usually comes 
 down to staring at two Finder windows dragging items from one to the other 
 as you go through the files by hand.
 Can that be done with the Library, System, Users folders ?

Users yes, Library, some things (Application Support folders, prefs and some 
plugins) , System NO. IN general, unless you really know what you're doing do 
NOT mess with the System folder.

Do NOT try Migration Assistant; it does not merge user accounts, which is what 
you're doing.

-- 
Bruce Johnson

Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai,  PhD

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Re: Moving an eMac from 10.2.8 to 10.4.11

2010-11-10 Thread Walter Sheluk

On 10-11-09 10:01 AM, Ashgrove wrote:

Merging two systems is a PITA no matter how you do it, and usually comes down 
to staring at two Finder windows dragging items from one to the other as you go 
through the files by hand.

Can that be done with the Library, System, Users folders ?

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Re: Moving an eMac from 10.2.8 to 10.4.11

2010-11-09 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Nov 9, 2010, at 8:22 AM, Ramon Tate wrote:

 Hi, all,
 I have a somewhat esoteric problem and need some advice on how to do handle 
 it. I'm still using a 1GHz/1Gbyte PPC eMac running Mac OS 10.2.8 for much of 
 my work and now need to move to 10.4.11 to accommodate a new application that 
 requires it.
 
 The problem arises thus: some time ago I bought and installed 10.4 on an 
 external Firewire drive and have been booting and using it for the occasional 
 applications that required 10.4. Now I need to merge the large amount of 
 10.2.8 data - and applications - that I've accumulated with the 10.4.11 
 system into a single system.

If the bulk of your data is on the 10.2.8 system, do an 'Archive and Install' 
of 10.4 on the internal drive. (this is reachable via the 'Option' menu in the 
10.4 installer after you've selected the volume to install it on.) this will 
deal with all the email, safari bookmarks, etc etc,as well as the differing 
versions of the OS X apps between 10.2 and 10.4.

Then update the new 10.4 system before you do any merging of data bwteen the 
two 10.4 systems (internal and external)

Then, once the new system is up and running, you can use Carbon Copy Cloner and 
move JUST the user files and applications from the external drive. You'll need 
to do a fair bit of setup with CCC, though, you need to determine if, for 
example the user prefs files on the external drive are the ones you want to 
keep, or not, it may even be an issue of copying stuff manually.

Merging two systems is a PITA no matter how you do it, and usually comes down 
to staring at two Finder windows dragging items from one to the other as you go 
through the files by hand.

-- 
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

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Re: Moving an eMac from 10.2.8 to 10.4.11

2010-11-09 Thread Ashgrove
On Nov 9, 11:42 am, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu
wrote:
 Merging two systems is a PITA no matter how you do it, and usually comes down 
 to staring at two Finder windows dragging items from one to the other as you 
 go through the files by hand.

Time consuming and boring, but the safest thing to do.

F

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