Re: Playing DVD movies on G3 Indigo iMac
On 11/23/11 12:34 PM, D. Fabel wrote: Some good food for thought. Thank you all! I think I've found a possible internal DVD replacement drive. May give that a try if I can't find the appropriate Handbrake settings. Looking at Handbrake, it looks like I can either use an H.264 video codec or MPEG-4 (FFmpeg) codec. Any idea which of these I should be using? I don't see a way to use an MPEG-2 or MPEG-1 codec. Also, I can output to either MP4 or MKV format. Recommendations? Thanks again, Doug At 10:07 AM -0800 11/23/2011, Clark Martin wrote: G3 Macs that shipped with DVD drives also had video hardware that decoded the video data. decoded the MPEG-2 video data. A G3 just isn't up to full screen video playback. My Smurf does just fine full screen. Just need to be careful of the source. About the only thing to try is to use hand brake and reduce the video size (width and height), by at least half. Don't tweak the frame size. Change the codec. If you don't have a hardware MPEG-2 decoder, then transcode the source into MPEG-1. That will most certainly play - even full screen. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. - On my G4 Mdd 867 dual I have external DVD/CD burner (OWC) Mac DVD Ripper Pro (MDRP) DVD Player (Apple) I rip and burn w/ MDRP And watch w/ DVD Player -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Playing DVD movies on G3 Indigo iMac
I have an Iomega USB external drive that works well with my graphite iMac G3 600mhz. It burns CDs and plays DVDs without any problems. (I use this iMac as a music server). -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Playing DVD movies on G3 Indigo iMac
On Nov 23, 2011, at 8:23 AM, D. Fabel lists.dfa...@earthlink.net wrote: Looking for a little help here. I've got an Indigo iMac, 500MHz, with 512MB ram that has a CD drive only. I'm trying to get movies onto it but running into problems. First off, DVD Player will not open as it knows there isn't an internal DVD drive attached. Plugging in either an external firewire or USB drive doesn't make a difference with DVD Player. I tried making a disc image of the DVD and mounting that, but DVD Player still wouldn't start. So, I then tried copying the Video_TS and Audio_TS folders to the hard drive. Neither VLC nor MPlayer was able to play back video. I'd get audio that sounded great, but absolutely no video. ??? Lastly, I tried using Handbrake on a different computer to rip the DVD down into m4v format. Transferred that over to the iMac and fired it up in iTunes 8.2.1. Better, but not usable. This time I got audio and really stuttered video. Unusable again. I've still got one Handbrake preset left to try (I think I did Universal and iPod Touch/iPhone last night), but thought I would ask here to see if anyone else has figured this out already. G3 Macs that shipped with DVD drives also had video hardware that decoded the video data. A G3 just isn't up to full screen video playback. About the only thing to try is to use hand brake and reduce the video size (width and height), by at least half. Sent from an iPhone, but is it mine? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Playing DVD movies on G3 Indigo iMac
At 10:07 AM -0800 11/23/2011, Clark Martin wrote: G3 Macs that shipped with DVD drives also had video hardware that decoded the video data. decoded the MPEG-2 video data. A G3 just isn't up to full screen video playback. My Smurf does just fine full screen. Just need to be careful of the source. About the only thing to try is to use hand brake and reduce the video size (width and height), by at least half. Don't tweak the frame size. Change the codec. If you don't have a hardware MPEG-2 decoder, then transcode the source into MPEG-1. That will most certainly play - even full screen. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Playing DVD movies on G3 Indigo iMac
Some good food for thought. Thank you all! I think I've found a possible internal DVD replacement drive. May give that a try if I can't find the appropriate Handbrake settings. Looking at Handbrake, it looks like I can either use an H.264 video codec or MPEG-4 (FFmpeg) codec. Any idea which of these I should be using? I don't see a way to use an MPEG-2 or MPEG-1 codec. Also, I can output to either MP4 or MKV format. Recommendations? Thanks again, Doug At 10:07 AM -0800 11/23/2011, Clark Martin wrote: G3 Macs that shipped with DVD drives also had video hardware that decoded the video data. decoded the MPEG-2 video data. A G3 just isn't up to full screen video playback. My Smurf does just fine full screen. Just need to be careful of the source. About the only thing to try is to use hand brake and reduce the video size (width and height), by at least half. Don't tweak the frame size. Change the codec. If you don't have a hardware MPEG-2 decoder, then transcode the source into MPEG-1. That will most certainly play - even full screen. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Playing DVD movies on G3 Indigo iMac
At 10:34 AM -0800 11/23/2011, D. Fabel wrote: Looking at Handbrake, it looks like I can either use an H.264 video codec or MPEG-4 (FFmpeg) codec. Any idea which of these I should be using? I don't see a way to use an MPEG-2 or MPEG-1 codec. DivX, Xvid, and H.264 *are* MPEG-4 variants. Very cpu intensive. MPEG-1 is the video format used on the original Video CD. These will easily play on your G3. MPEG-2 is the video format used on Super Video CD and DVD Video. These may play on your G3, depending on the compression. This is the codec most often done in hardware, on the video card. (newer GPUs now include h.264 decoders also). ffmpeg is an open-source transcoding engine, used by just about everyone to convert from one video format to another. It contains umpteen codecs. When Handbrake tells you FFmpeg, it means it's selecting one of ffmpeg's codecs over QuickTime's. Also, I can output to either MP4 or MKV format. Recommendations? .mov, .avi, .wmv, .mp4, .mkv are container file formats. Any are fine. What counts is the format of the audio and video data streams within the container. For your G3... um... Try ripping the DVD to an avi file with Xvid and mp3 audio. See how well that plays back using QuickTime Player with Perian, and VLC. If it stutters, you can try lowering the bitrate. (I suggest mp3 because it's let cpu intensive to decode than other formats). If that doesn't work... Handbrake is quite limited... Use Handbrake to rip the DVD then use ffmpeg directly to transcode to MPEG-1 or MPEG-2. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
