Re: Running OS X 10.5

2009-09-11 Thread michael bluestein
Hello,  I am not as experienced as most are on LEM but I have a iBook G4
1.33Ghz and only 512 MG of RAM and Leopard seems to work just fine on it.  I
bought a GIG of RAM to install but have not done so yet because the iBook is
running fine.Michael Bluestein
Prospect Park, PA
iBook G4

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 3:23 PM, WAYNE H FOWLER whfo...@msn.com wrote:

  I have an iMac G4 1.25 17 FP with 1 gig of ram.  I'm running Tiger
 10.4.11 now.  When I thought of upgrading to Leopard, I read that it likes
 to see at least 2 gigs of ram to run smoothly.  Does anyone have any
 experience with running Leopard with this configuration?  How important
 would it be to upgrade to 2 gigs?  I have read on everymac that it's
 possible to load the two chip spaces with 1 gig chips but Apple doesn't
 recommend it.
 


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Re: Running OS X 10.5

2009-09-10 Thread Jarett DeAngelis

I haven't ever found that to be the case on that class of hardware,  
but your usage may be much more limited than mine.

Rich media web browsing, Entourage, Adium and moderate use of  
Dashboard will occupy those resources very, very quickly.

--  
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Office of Information Technology
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On Sep 10, 2009, at 5:44 PM, Al Poulin alfred.pou...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Sep 10, 12:16 am, Jarett DeAngelis starkr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yeah, I'm not buyin' it.

 You need 1GB for Tiger and 2GB for Leopard if you want to do anything
 useful with them.

 On Sep 9, 2009, at 11:49 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote:

 Leopard runs just fine on anything over 512 MB.  Additional memory
 needs depend on the mix of applications you like to run.

 What Dan just said.  I do useful things on my G4 iBook 1.33 GHz with
 512 MB.

 Al Poulin
 

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Re: Running OS X 10.5

2009-09-10 Thread Simon Royal

Hi.

To reiterate what I said earlier, I run Leopard on an 867Mhz G4 TiBook  
originally with 768MB of RAM. It is my main Mac and I do everything on  
it. It runs lovely. Very happy with the performance and I run apps  
like OpenOffice, Photoshop, GIMP, VLC, Audacity etc daily without too  
much hassle...

I upped to 1GB of RAM and the difference was noticeable. I'm not  
naive, yes a newer Mac would be faster but this one suits me.

Simon

On 10 Sep 2009, at 23:01, Jarett DeAngelis wrote:

 I haven't ever found that to be the case on that class of hardware,
 but your usage may be much more limited than mine.

 Rich media web browsing, Entourage, Adium and moderate use of
 Dashboard will occupy those resources very, very quickly.

Simon Royal
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Re: Running OS X 10.5

2009-09-10 Thread Brian McDonald

 Leopard runs just fine on anything over 512 MB.

I agree 100% my main mac right now is a 700mhz g4 iMac with just the  
bare-bones 512mb of ram. I installed Leopard although unsupported,  
and noticed no change in performance from tiger to leopard.

Sometimes I do feel that leopard is maybe a little quicker than tiger  
at loading my apps. I am a photographer and use Photoshop CS3 for  
extended amounts of time, and don't notice any lag that tiger didn't  
have.

Like Wayne said, see how your current memory affects your day-to-day  
tasks.

And enjoy either way!

Thanks,

Brian McDonald
PH: 1.423.653.1660
3243 Castle ave
Chattanooga, TN 37412


On Sep 9, 2009, at 11:49 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote:


 At 1:23 PM -0600 9/9/2009, WAYNE H FOWLER wrote:
 iMac G4 1.25 17 FP with 1 gig of ram.  I'm running Tiger 10.4.11  
 now.

 When I thought of upgrading to Leopard, I read that it likes to see
 at least 2 gigs of ram to run smoothly.  Does anyone have any
 experience with running Leopard with this configuration?

 Leopard runs just fine on anything over 512 MB.  Additional memory
 needs depend on the mix of applications you like to run.

 How much memory do you need?  A lot of people blindly recommend 1 or
 2 or 10 or 20 GB.  That's the equivalent of the car salesman trying
 to get you to buy a full size bus when all you need is a two seater
 or SUV.  If you don't USE the memory, then buying extra is
 useless!!  Load up your Mac and run for a while with your normal
 app mix.  Then actually take a look at what you're using with
 Activity Monitor.  If *BOTH* the free and inactive pools are tiny
 - both consistantly less than 8 to 10 MB, *AND* the Page Out rate is
 going nutz, then you MAY need more memory.

 - Dan.
 -- 
 - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth.

 

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Running OS X 10.5

2009-09-09 Thread WAYNE H FOWLER

I have an iMac G4 1.25 17 FP with 1 gig of ram.  I'm running Tiger 10.4.11 
now.  When I thought of upgrading to Leopard, I read that it likes to see at 
least 2 gigs of ram to run smoothly.  Does anyone have any experience with 
running Leopard with this configuration?  How important would it be to upgrade 
to 2 gigs?  I have read on everymac that it's possible to load the two chip 
spaces with 1 gig chips but Apple doesn't recommend it.
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Re: Running OS X 10.5

2009-09-09 Thread Simon Royal
Wayne

Go for it. Leopard runs perfectly well with 1GB of RAM. Of course it  
will be better under 2GB.

I had a 1.25Ghz G4 eMac. It had 1.5GB of RAM and Leopard ran lovely on  
it. I currently have an 867Mhz G4 PowerBook TiBook. It has 1GB of RAM  
and Leopard runs lovely on that too.

Simon

On 9 Sep 2009, at 20:23, WAYNE H FOWLER wrote:

 I have an iMac G4 1.25 17 FP with 1 gig of ram.  I'm running Tiger  
 10.4.11 now.  When I thought of upgrading to Leopard, I read that it  
 likes to see at least 2 gigs of ram to run smoothly.  Does anyone  
 have any experience with running Leopard with this configuration?   
 How important would it be to upgrade to 2 gigs?  I have read on  
 everymac that it's possible to load the two chip spaces with 1 gig  
 chips but Apple doesn't recommend it.
 

Simon Royal
---
Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on  
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SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5)






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Re: Running OS X 10.5

2009-09-09 Thread bhealthyagain

 I have an eMac with just 1 gig of ram, and an 80 gig hard drive running 10.5.6 
or 7, I can't remember which, and it runs just fine. My eMac is a 1.42 mhz 
machine. The only way to know is to try it and see. You can never have enough 
ram in any machine. The Apple OS is more efficient with memory than a Windows 
based machine. 

Garth


 


 

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I have an iMac G4 1.25 17 FP with 1 gig of ram.? I'm running Tiger 10.4.11 
now.? When I thought of upgrading to Leopard, I read that it likes to see at 
least 2 gigs of ram to run smoothly.? Does anyone have any experience with 
running Leopard with this configuration?? How important would it be to upgrade 
to 2 gigs?? I have read on everymac that it's possible to load the two chip 
spaces with 1 gig chips but Apple doesn't recommend it.






 


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Re: Running OS X 10.5

2009-09-09 Thread Elliott Price
I run 10.5.7 on 768Mb of RAM in my 1.33Ghz G4 iBook, and it runs just  
fine. OSX is very good at knowing the limitations of your Mac and  
running within those boundaries. (For instance, using less graphic- 
intensive animations in Dashboard for older Macs with not a lot of Vram)
10.5 added a lot of very useful new features, I would say even if it  
did lag a bit the features you gain are worth it.


-Elliott Price
Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara
Graphic Design - Artwork Setup
Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites

On Sep 9, 2009, at 2:05 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote:

 I have an eMac with just 1 gig of ram, and an 80 gig hard drive  
 running 10.5.6 or 7, I can't remember which, and it runs just fine.  
 My eMac is a 1.42 mhz machine. The only way to know is to try it and  
 see. You can never have enough ram in any machine. The Apple OS is  
 more efficient with memory than a Windows based machine.

 Garth


 -Original Message-
 From: WAYNE H FOWLER whfo...@msn.com
 To: imaclist@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wed, Sep 9, 2009 3:23 pm
 Subject: Running OS X 10.5

 I have an iMac G4 1.25 17 FP with 1 gig of ram.  I'm running Tiger  
 10.4.11 now.  When I thought of upgrading to Leopard, I read that it  
 likes to see at least 2 gigs of ram to run smoothly.  Does anyone  
 have any experience with running Leopard with this configuration?   
 How important would it be to upgrade to 2 gigs?  I have read on  
 everymac that it's possible to load the two chip spaces with 1 gig  
 chips but Apple doesn't recommend it.


 


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Re: Running OS X 10.5

2009-09-09 Thread Clark Martin

WAYNE H FOWLER wrote:
 I have an iMac G4 1.25 17 FP with 1 gig of ram.  I'm running Tiger 
 10.4.11 now.  When I thought of upgrading to Leopard, I read that it 
 likes to see at least 2 gigs of ram to run smoothly.  Does anyone have 
 any experience with running Leopard with this configuration?  How 
 important would it be to upgrade to 2 gigs?  I have read on everymac 
 that it's possible to load the two chip spaces with 1 gig chips but 
 Apple doesn't recommend it.

I've got Leopard running on two G4s (Mini  ibook) with 1.25 Gb and it 
works smoothly.  Both are used for playing video which tends to be a 
good gauge for such things.

According to MacTracker you can put 2G in the iMac.  Apple doesn't 
recommend against it, they only specify a maximum memory of 1Gb but that 
is based on what memory was available at the time the machine was 
released.  Apple has always done this and many Macs are can easily and 
reliably upgraded beyond Apple's spec.

So, 1Gb is enough but 2Gb would be better and is quite doable.



-- 
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Redwood City, CA, USA
Macintosh / Internet Consulting

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Re: Running OS X 10.5

2009-09-09 Thread Malcolm O'Brien

 I have an iMac G4 1.25 17 FP with 1 gig of ram.  I'm running Tiger 10.4.11 
 now.  When I thought of upgrading to Leopard, I read that it likes to see at 
 least 2 gigs of ram to run smoothly.  Does anyone have any experience with 
 running Leopard with this configuration?

Yeah! Mine's slower than yours but it's faster than mine was when it ran 
Panther! And I should add that that is with 1 GB. (I'll amend my sig.) 
Install it and be happy. That said, it will probably stop your iPhoto 
from working.

 I have read on everymac that it's possible to load the two chip spaces with 
 1 gig chips but Apple doesn't recommend it.

For thems thats interested, that page is here:

http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/imac-g4-flat-panel-faq/imac-g4-how-to-upgrade-memory-ram.html

Sad to say, does not apply to _my_ iMac. :(
-- 
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800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD)

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Re: Running OS X 10.5

2009-09-09 Thread Dan

At 1:23 PM -0600 9/9/2009, WAYNE H FOWLER wrote:
iMac G4 1.25 17 FP with 1 gig of ram.  I'm running Tiger 10.4.11 now.

When I thought of upgrading to Leopard, I read that it likes to see 
at least 2 gigs of ram to run smoothly.  Does anyone have any 
experience with running Leopard with this configuration?

Leopard runs just fine on anything over 512 MB.  Additional memory 
needs depend on the mix of applications you like to run.

How much memory do you need?  A lot of people blindly recommend 1 or 
2 or 10 or 20 GB.  That's the equivalent of the car salesman trying 
to get you to buy a full size bus when all you need is a two seater 
or SUV.  If you don't USE the memory, then buying extra is 
useless!!  Load up your Mac and run for a while with your normal 
app mix.  Then actually take a look at what you're using with 
Activity Monitor.  If *BOTH* the free and inactive pools are tiny 
- both consistantly less than 8 to 10 MB, *AND* the Page Out rate is 
going nutz, then you MAY need more memory.

- Dan.
-- 
- Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth.

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