Re: Running OS X 10.5
Hello, I am not as experienced as most are on LEM but I have a iBook G4 1.33Ghz and only 512 MG of RAM and Leopard seems to work just fine on it. I bought a GIG of RAM to install but have not done so yet because the iBook is running fine.Michael Bluestein Prospect Park, PA iBook G4 On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 3:23 PM, WAYNE H FOWLER whfo...@msn.com wrote: I have an iMac G4 1.25 17 FP with 1 gig of ram. I'm running Tiger 10.4.11 now. When I thought of upgrading to Leopard, I read that it likes to see at least 2 gigs of ram to run smoothly. Does anyone have any experience with running Leopard with this configuration? How important would it be to upgrade to 2 gigs? I have read on everymac that it's possible to load the two chip spaces with 1 gig chips but Apple doesn't recommend it. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Running OS X 10.5
I haven't ever found that to be the case on that class of hardware, but your usage may be much more limited than mine. Rich media web browsing, Entourage, Adium and moderate use of Dashboard will occupy those resources very, very quickly. -- Jarett T. DeAngelis, MS Sr. IT Support Engineer Distributed Support Services, College of Arts and Letters Office of Information Technology 938 Flanner Hall University of Notre Dame On Sep 10, 2009, at 5:44 PM, Al Poulin alfred.pou...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 10, 12:16 am, Jarett DeAngelis starkr...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, I'm not buyin' it. You need 1GB for Tiger and 2GB for Leopard if you want to do anything useful with them. On Sep 9, 2009, at 11:49 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Leopard runs just fine on anything over 512 MB. Additional memory needs depend on the mix of applications you like to run. What Dan just said. I do useful things on my G4 iBook 1.33 GHz with 512 MB. Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Running OS X 10.5
Hi. To reiterate what I said earlier, I run Leopard on an 867Mhz G4 TiBook originally with 768MB of RAM. It is my main Mac and I do everything on it. It runs lovely. Very happy with the performance and I run apps like OpenOffice, Photoshop, GIMP, VLC, Audacity etc daily without too much hassle... I upped to 1GB of RAM and the difference was noticeable. I'm not naive, yes a newer Mac would be faster but this one suits me. Simon On 10 Sep 2009, at 23:01, Jarett DeAngelis wrote: I haven't ever found that to be the case on that class of hardware, but your usage may be much more limited than mine. Rich media web browsing, Entourage, Adium and moderate use of Dashboard will occupy those resources very, very quickly. Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Running OS X 10.5
Leopard runs just fine on anything over 512 MB. I agree 100% my main mac right now is a 700mhz g4 iMac with just the bare-bones 512mb of ram. I installed Leopard although unsupported, and noticed no change in performance from tiger to leopard. Sometimes I do feel that leopard is maybe a little quicker than tiger at loading my apps. I am a photographer and use Photoshop CS3 for extended amounts of time, and don't notice any lag that tiger didn't have. Like Wayne said, see how your current memory affects your day-to-day tasks. And enjoy either way! Thanks, Brian McDonald PH: 1.423.653.1660 3243 Castle ave Chattanooga, TN 37412 On Sep 9, 2009, at 11:49 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 1:23 PM -0600 9/9/2009, WAYNE H FOWLER wrote: iMac G4 1.25 17 FP with 1 gig of ram. I'm running Tiger 10.4.11 now. When I thought of upgrading to Leopard, I read that it likes to see at least 2 gigs of ram to run smoothly. Does anyone have any experience with running Leopard with this configuration? Leopard runs just fine on anything over 512 MB. Additional memory needs depend on the mix of applications you like to run. How much memory do you need? A lot of people blindly recommend 1 or 2 or 10 or 20 GB. That's the equivalent of the car salesman trying to get you to buy a full size bus when all you need is a two seater or SUV. If you don't USE the memory, then buying extra is useless!! Load up your Mac and run for a while with your normal app mix. Then actually take a look at what you're using with Activity Monitor. If *BOTH* the free and inactive pools are tiny - both consistantly less than 8 to 10 MB, *AND* the Page Out rate is going nutz, then you MAY need more memory. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Running OS X 10.5
I have an iMac G4 1.25 17 FP with 1 gig of ram. I'm running Tiger 10.4.11 now. When I thought of upgrading to Leopard, I read that it likes to see at least 2 gigs of ram to run smoothly. Does anyone have any experience with running Leopard with this configuration? How important would it be to upgrade to 2 gigs? I have read on everymac that it's possible to load the two chip spaces with 1 gig chips but Apple doesn't recommend it. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Running OS X 10.5
Wayne Go for it. Leopard runs perfectly well with 1GB of RAM. Of course it will be better under 2GB. I had a 1.25Ghz G4 eMac. It had 1.5GB of RAM and Leopard ran lovely on it. I currently have an 867Mhz G4 PowerBook TiBook. It has 1GB of RAM and Leopard runs lovely on that too. Simon On 9 Sep 2009, at 20:23, WAYNE H FOWLER wrote: I have an iMac G4 1.25 17 FP with 1 gig of ram. I'm running Tiger 10.4.11 now. When I thought of upgrading to Leopard, I read that it likes to see at least 2 gigs of ram to run smoothly. Does anyone have any experience with running Leopard with this configuration? How important would it be to upgrade to 2 gigs? I have read on everymac that it's possible to load the two chip spaces with 1 gig chips but Apple doesn't recommend it. Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Running OS X 10.5
I have an eMac with just 1 gig of ram, and an 80 gig hard drive running 10.5.6 or 7, I can't remember which, and it runs just fine. My eMac is a 1.42 mhz machine. The only way to know is to try it and see. You can never have enough ram in any machine. The Apple OS is more efficient with memory than a Windows based machine. Garth -Original Message- From: WAYNE H FOWLER whfo...@msn.com To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, Sep 9, 2009 3:23 pm Subject: Running OS X 10.5 I have an iMac G4 1.25 17 FP with 1 gig of ram.? I'm running Tiger 10.4.11 now.? When I thought of upgrading to Leopard, I read that it likes to see at least 2 gigs of ram to run smoothly.? Does anyone have any experience with running Leopard with this configuration?? How important would it be to upgrade to 2 gigs?? I have read on everymac that it's possible to load the two chip spaces with 1 gig chips but Apple doesn't recommend it. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Running OS X 10.5
I run 10.5.7 on 768Mb of RAM in my 1.33Ghz G4 iBook, and it runs just fine. OSX is very good at knowing the limitations of your Mac and running within those boundaries. (For instance, using less graphic- intensive animations in Dashboard for older Macs with not a lot of Vram) 10.5 added a lot of very useful new features, I would say even if it did lag a bit the features you gain are worth it. -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Sep 9, 2009, at 2:05 PM, bhealthyag...@aol.com wrote: I have an eMac with just 1 gig of ram, and an 80 gig hard drive running 10.5.6 or 7, I can't remember which, and it runs just fine. My eMac is a 1.42 mhz machine. The only way to know is to try it and see. You can never have enough ram in any machine. The Apple OS is more efficient with memory than a Windows based machine. Garth -Original Message- From: WAYNE H FOWLER whfo...@msn.com To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, Sep 9, 2009 3:23 pm Subject: Running OS X 10.5 I have an iMac G4 1.25 17 FP with 1 gig of ram. I'm running Tiger 10.4.11 now. When I thought of upgrading to Leopard, I read that it likes to see at least 2 gigs of ram to run smoothly. Does anyone have any experience with running Leopard with this configuration? How important would it be to upgrade to 2 gigs? I have read on everymac that it's possible to load the two chip spaces with 1 gig chips but Apple doesn't recommend it. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Running OS X 10.5
WAYNE H FOWLER wrote: I have an iMac G4 1.25 17 FP with 1 gig of ram. I'm running Tiger 10.4.11 now. When I thought of upgrading to Leopard, I read that it likes to see at least 2 gigs of ram to run smoothly. Does anyone have any experience with running Leopard with this configuration? How important would it be to upgrade to 2 gigs? I have read on everymac that it's possible to load the two chip spaces with 1 gig chips but Apple doesn't recommend it. I've got Leopard running on two G4s (Mini ibook) with 1.25 Gb and it works smoothly. Both are used for playing video which tends to be a good gauge for such things. According to MacTracker you can put 2G in the iMac. Apple doesn't recommend against it, they only specify a maximum memory of 1Gb but that is based on what memory was available at the time the machine was released. Apple has always done this and many Macs are can easily and reliably upgraded beyond Apple's spec. So, 1Gb is enough but 2Gb would be better and is quite doable. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Running OS X 10.5
I have an iMac G4 1.25 17 FP with 1 gig of ram. I'm running Tiger 10.4.11 now. When I thought of upgrading to Leopard, I read that it likes to see at least 2 gigs of ram to run smoothly. Does anyone have any experience with running Leopard with this configuration? Yeah! Mine's slower than yours but it's faster than mine was when it ran Panther! And I should add that that is with 1 GB. (I'll amend my sig.) Install it and be happy. That said, it will probably stop your iPhoto from working. I have read on everymac that it's possible to load the two chip spaces with 1 gig chips but Apple doesn't recommend it. For thems thats interested, that page is here: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/imac-g4-flat-panel-faq/imac-g4-how-to-upgrade-memory-ram.html Sad to say, does not apply to _my_ iMac. :( -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Running OS X 10.5
At 1:23 PM -0600 9/9/2009, WAYNE H FOWLER wrote: iMac G4 1.25 17 FP with 1 gig of ram. I'm running Tiger 10.4.11 now. When I thought of upgrading to Leopard, I read that it likes to see at least 2 gigs of ram to run smoothly. Does anyone have any experience with running Leopard with this configuration? Leopard runs just fine on anything over 512 MB. Additional memory needs depend on the mix of applications you like to run. How much memory do you need? A lot of people blindly recommend 1 or 2 or 10 or 20 GB. That's the equivalent of the car salesman trying to get you to buy a full size bus when all you need is a two seater or SUV. If you don't USE the memory, then buying extra is useless!! Load up your Mac and run for a while with your normal app mix. Then actually take a look at what you're using with Activity Monitor. If *BOTH* the free and inactive pools are tiny - both consistantly less than 8 to 10 MB, *AND* the Page Out rate is going nutz, then you MAY need more memory. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---