Re: [efloraofindia:114089] Re: Ficus for id - 11/04/12 - RK

2012-04-20 Thread ranjini kamath
Aarti this is lovely! Hope you got a pic of the much-awaited fruit!
Would love to see it:)
This tree is quite conspicuous because of it's shape,etc.I have been
keeping it under observation for years whenever i go to Lalbagh.
Another friend from my birdwatching group has promised to send the
pics to his taxonomist friend to get the id.Really intrigued as to id!
   Ranjini


On 4/21/12, Aarti S. Khale  wrote:
> Ranjini ji,
> I have also photographed the same tree at Lalbagh last weekend.
> Saw a single small, round berry-like black fruit on it.
> Aarti
>
> On Friday, April 20, 2012 10:48:52 AM UTC+4, Parijat wrote:
>>
>> This is the same tree alright Raman ji.Cannot mistake the trunk &
>> pitted bark:) TFS..
>>
>> On 4/20/12, raman  wrote:
>> > Pankaj ji.
>> >
>> > I am 100% sure its the same tree.
>> > The location, holes in the trees and growth underneath, the shape of
>> trees
>> > everything fits.
>> >
>> > If you look at more pictures here
>> >
>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/43406542/Flora%20and%20Fauna/Trees%20of%20Bangalore/ZZFamily%20-%20ZZ%20Unknown%20058%20Tree/ZZ%20Unknown%20058%20Tree.html
>> >
>> > Raman
>> >
>>
>


Re: [efloraofindia:114089] Re: Ficus for id - 11/04/12 - RK

2012-04-20 Thread Aarti S. Khale
Ranjini ji,
I have also photographed the same tree at Lalbagh last weekend.
Saw a single small, round berry-like black fruit on it.
Aarti

On Friday, April 20, 2012 10:48:52 AM UTC+4, Parijat wrote:
>
> This is the same tree alright Raman ji.Cannot mistake the trunk &
> pitted bark:) TFS..
>
> On 4/20/12, raman  wrote:
> > Pankaj ji.
> >
> > I am 100% sure its the same tree.
> > The location, holes in the trees and growth underneath, the shape of 
> trees
> > everything fits.
> >
> > If you look at more pictures here
> > 
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/43406542/Flora%20and%20Fauna/Trees%20of%20Bangalore/ZZFamily%20-%20ZZ%20Unknown%20058%20Tree/ZZ%20Unknown%20058%20Tree.html
> >
> > Raman
> >
>


[efloraofindia:114088] Re: Hi!

2012-04-20 Thread Aarti S. Khale
Thanks Ranjini ji
I will keep in mind next time I visit Bangalore.
Regards,
Aarti

On Saturday, April 21, 2012 9:53:08 AM UTC+4, Parijat wrote:
>
> Aarti ji  & all interested indiatreepix membersYou will find this
> link useful when you are in Bangalore & would like to visit Lalbagh.
>
> http://www.bangalorewalks.com/html/weekend-walks.html
>
> I'm sure you must have seen this group Aarti ji.It must be quite a
> comprehensive tour  of Lalbagh.
>   Regards
>
> On 4/20/12, Aarti S. Khale  wrote:
> > Dear Ranjini ji,
> > I am Aarti Khale, a membar of eflora.
> > Last weekend I was in Bangalore and visited Lalbagh on the 15th morning
> > with my daughter.
> > Saw many treessome yet to be identified.
> > It would be nice if we can go there sometime together, when I visit 
> again.
> > Saw a small group of tree lovers having cameras, passing by near the 
> large
> > Mysore Fig tree. Hope you were not one of them.
> > Regards,
> > Aarti
> >
>
>

Re: [efloraofindia:114086] Asteraceae for identification 210412MK03

2012-04-20 Thread Muthu Karthick
Many thanks for the id Nidhanji.

On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 5:26 AM, Nidhan Singh wrote:

> This is Echinops echinatus..
> --
> Regards,
>
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> Department of Botany
> I.B. (PG) College
> Panipat-132103 Haryana
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>
>


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[efloraofindia:114085] Re: Hi!

2012-04-20 Thread ranjini kamath
Aarti ji  & all interested indiatreepix membersYou will find this
link useful when you are in Bangalore & would like to visit Lalbagh.

http://www.bangalorewalks.com/html/weekend-walks.html

I'm sure you must have seen this group Aarti ji.It must be quite a
comprehensive tour  of Lalbagh.
  Regards

On 4/20/12, Aarti S. Khale  wrote:
> Dear Ranjini ji,
> I am Aarti Khale, a membar of eflora.
> Last weekend I was in Bangalore and visited Lalbagh on the 15th morning
> with my daughter.
> Saw many treessome yet to be identified.
> It would be nice if we can go there sometime together, when I visit again.
> Saw a small group of tree lovers having cameras, passing by near the large
> Mysore Fig tree. Hope you were not one of them.
> Regards,
> Aarti
>


[efloraofindia:114084] Re: Id request 19042012 ASP 02 Dichgam Sanctuary, J&K (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)

2012-04-20 Thread Mahadeswara
No pictures!

On Thursday, April 19, 2012 9:39:56 PM UTC+5:30, shivaprakash wrote:
>
> [image: Document] I've shared Id request 19042012 ASP 02 Dichgam 
> Sanctuary, 
> J&K
>  Click to open: 
>
>- Id request 19042012 ASP 02 Dichgam Sanctuary, 
> J&K
>
>
> Google Docs makes it easy to create, store and share online documents, 
> spreadsheets and presentations. 
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[efloraofindia:114083] Valeriana jatamansi Jones from Nainital

2012-04-20 Thread Gurcharan Singh
*Valeriana jatamansi* Jones,  Asiat. Res. 2: 405, 416 405 1790.
syn: Valeriana wallichii DC.

Perennial herb up to 50 cm tall, with thick horizontal rootstock; basal 
leaves several, persistent, stalked, ovate-cordate, up to 7 cm long; stem 
leaves sessile, simple or 3-lobed; flowers white or tinged pink, in 
terminal corymb; fruit crowned with bearded pappus like calyx limb.

Photographed from Nainital in April.


 
Valeriana-wallichii-Nainital-1a-IMG_0848




  Valeriana-wallichii-Nainital-2-IMG_0852




 Valeriana-wallichii-Nainital-4-IMG_0879



Gurcharan Singh


[efloraofindia:114082] Rubus niveus from Nainital and Kashmir

2012-04-20 Thread Gurcharan Singh



*Rubus niveus* Thunb.,  Rubo 9, f. 3 9, 1813
syn: *Rubus lasiocarpus* Smith; *R. foliosus* D. Don

A large spreading shrub distinguished from other species of Rubus by its 
pinnate compound leaves with usually 5-11 leaflets and pink flowers; stem 
and branches sometimes turning purplish, slightly hairy; leaflets elliptic, 
ovate to ovate-lanceolate, toothed, terminal often larger and lobed, upper 
surface green, lower white hairy; flowers 9-12 mm across in panicles; calyx 
hairy, petals pink slightly shorter to almost as long as calyx lobes; fruit 
initially pink finally maturing to black and glaucous.

Photographed from Nainital in April in flower and Kashmir in July in Fruit. 



 Rubus-niveus-Nainital-1-IMG_0883




 Rubus-niveus-Nainital-2-IMG_0882



 Rubus-niveus-Nainital-3-IMG_0881



  
Rubus-niveus-Dachhigam-Kashmir-1-DSC05636




Rubus-niveus-Dachhigam-Kashmir-2-DSC05637


Gurcharan Singh




  


[efloraofindia:114080] Fwd: Cyrtomium

2012-04-20 Thread jmgarg1
Forwarding pl.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Chris Fraser-Jenkins 
Date: 21 April 2012 05:51
Subject: Cyrtomium
To: jmga...@gmail.com


Dear Alok,
 Well, I have included an updated Himachal and J. and K. list on the
Indian Ferns website (www.groups.yahoo.com/group/Indian-Ferns).  You open
the Home Page, go to New Members and join it (free), then you can open up
Files on the left, and my paper on Nepal ferns etc. gives Himalayan State
lists.  This is soon to be updated to include other States, until all
Indian States' pteridophytes are listed.  But I am a little busy at present
and can't do the expansion for a couple of months at least, though it is
half ready.
 Dr. Alka Kumari at the Himalayan Botanical Research Institute,
Palampur, is also working on Himachal ferns, as has Dr. S.P. Khullar at
Panjab University, Chandigarh, for many decades.
 Best wishes,
Chris F.-J.
--- On Fri, 20/4/12, Alok Mahendroo  wrote:
> From: Alok Mahendroo 
> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113837] Re: Fern for id Kalatope - Al040512 (
indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)
> To: "Chris Fraser-Jenkins" 
> Date: Friday, 20 April, 2012, 22:23
> Thanks Chris... Though I do not know
> much about ferns... but your
> explanations have aroused my curiosity... and since you are
> based in the
> himalayas too I think you'd have a fair idea of the species
> present
> here I'll try to upload more species of ferns from
> Himachal and
> maybe we could create a checklist of this place too
> (though I am
> sure someone would have done this already)...
> regards
> Alok
>
>
> On Fri, 2012-04-20 at 03:35 +0100, Chris Fraser-Jenkins
> wrote:
> > Incidentally, as there were two answers, what makes me
> think it is more likely C. anomophyllum than caryotideum is
> the lower leaf in the photo, showing the very rounded
> pinna-bases (as also the lowest pinna on the upper frond),
> and I have grown plants of it and seen how they can
> occasionally form a smallish, acute auricle in mid and upper
> pinnae (approaching the narrow auricles of caryotideum, but
> usually less prominent).  Also the dark centres to the
> indusia.  But it's true to say those two are a bit
> difficult sometimes, and alternatively sometimes C.
> anomophyllum can appear close to C. macrophyllum, but with
> teeth at least at the pinna-apices.  They have long
> been recognised by the critical and carefulBotanists in
> Japan.
> > Dr. Sadamu Matsumoto at Tsukuba has shown that all
> these species are hybrid-derived and has been able to
> identify some of the ancestral diploids - so some degree of
> occasional intermediacy in morphology is not so surprising
> really.
> > Chris F.-J., Kathmandu.






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Re: [efloraofindia:114079] Aechmanthera, Barleria or Strobilanthes... Kalatope Al031812 (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)

2012-04-20 Thread jmgarg1
A reply:
"Dear Gargji,
 This is not Barleria.But it looks like Strobilanthes
gluttinosus which flowers Nov.to March and blooms every year whereas Many
Strobilanthes species booms with the intervals of more than five years. and
it is found above 11oom.and can be seen nearby the conrner of roadside
vegetation of shady and moist places.Please give me address of bookshop
whera I can found Your Books of Birds.
   Yours,
  Krishan lal"

Thanks, Krishan ji.

On 19 April 2012 18:20, jmgarg1  wrote:

> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>
> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>
> “*Strobilanthes sp. I think*... but I don't know if it is the same as the
> *Strobilanthes penstemonoides dalhousieana* which is found here in the
> monsoons (July - August) ...!!” from Alok ji.
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Alok Mahendroo (Google Docs) 
> Date: 18 March 2012 23:19
> Subject: [efloraofindia:111267] Aechmanthera, Barleria or Strobilanthes...
> Kalatope Al031812 (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)
> To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
>
>
>  Attached: Untitled document
> Message from alokisabe...@gmail.com:
>
> Dear friends,
>
> Passing by the dam I took some photographs randomly of a flower I thought to 
> be Barleria... later I realised I had made a mistake.. Please help me 
> identify this flower...
>
> Location Kalatope, Chamba
> Altitude 1200 mts
> Habit herb
> Habitat wild
> Height 2 feet (approx)
> Season March
>
> regards
> Alok
>
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Re: [efloraofindia:114078] Fabaceae - Mimosoideae- week Xylia xylocarpa from Coimbatore

2012-04-20 Thread Rathinasabapathy Bhuvaragasamy
Thanks Arun. How was your visit to NBNP.



On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 4:53 PM, N Arun Kumar wrote:

> Beautiful sir:) i took photos from the same tree..nice flowers...
>
>  On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Rathinasabapathy Bhuvaragasamy <
> brspa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sharing the images of *Xylia xylocarpa* from NBNP Coimbatore.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> B. Rathinasabapathy
>> Project Co-ordinator
>> Nilgiri Biosphere Nature Park
>> 1388, Avinashi Road
>> Peelamedu
>> Coimbatore-641004
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


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Coimbatore-641004




Re: [efloraofindia:114077] Twiner for identification 210412MK01

2012-04-20 Thread Rohit Patel
Cocculus pendulus of Menhispermeceae ???


On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 4:07 AM, Muthu Karthick  wrote:

> *Dear all,
> Please help me to identify this twiner found in a scrub forest near Salem
> town of Tamil Nadu.
>
> Date: 15 April 2012
> Altitude: 450 M ASL
>
> The leaves are of 5 x 3 cm and fruits are of c.1cm across. Is this any
> Menispermiaceae?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> *
>



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Re: [efloraofindia:114076] Re: Quiz : which Ficus is this? from Hooghly

2012-04-20 Thread surajit koley
Good morning Sir.

 Yes, my images tally with *Ficus* *rumphii* as in -
http://resources.edb.gov.hk/~trees2/29/29_photo.html

But,

1) What about "Wavy-leaved Fig" as in - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ficus?

2) Again, what about this claim - "Actually, this species is very common in
Bangladesh and is found in abundance in the wild. I was earlier told by
someone that the correct name would be F. infectoria. But some Indian books
had named it F. rumphii. ..." in -
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/57823/

Yet, i understand that this post,
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/ficus$20infectoria/indiantreepix/lfUcX6mGFK4/84WYKEU1wngJ,
by
Garg Sir shows different figs.

Confusion still remains with me

Regards,

Surajit Koley



On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 6:12 AM, Dr Pankaj Kumar wrote:

> Ficus rumphii.
> Pankaj
>
>
>


Re: [efloraofindia:114075] Id request 19042012 ASP 02 Dichgam Sanctuary, J&K (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)

2012-04-20 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Yes Satish ji
This happened to me with many mails of Shivaprakash ji yesterday. I fear
some mails may be mixed up even to create confusion in ID.


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On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Satish Phadke  wrote:

> Can't see any pictures
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:56 PM, Gurcharan Singh wrote:
>
>> Some how the photographs are not displayed always to confirm, even from
>> website.
>>
>> --
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>> Retired  Associate Professor
>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:44 PM, Gurcharan Singh wrote:
>>
>>> I hope Magnolia liliiflora
>>>
>>> It is Dachhigam Sanctuary Adavanne ji
>>>
>>> --
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>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:39 PM, shivaprakash adavanne (Google Docs) <
>>> adava...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
  [image: Document] I've shared Id request 19042012 ASP 02 Dichgam
 Sanctuary, 
 J&K
  Click to open:

- Id request 19042012 ASP 02 Dichgam Sanctuary, 
 J&K


 Google Docs makes it easy to create, store and share online documents,
 spreadsheets and presentations.
 [image: Logo for Google Docs] 

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Dr Satish Phadke
>


Re: [efloraofindia:114074] Untitled document (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)

2012-04-20 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Again Alliaria petiolata


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Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:48 PM, shivaprakash adavanne (Google Docs) <
adava...@gmail.com> wrote:

> [image: Document] I've shared Untitled 
> document
>  Click to open:
>
>- Untitled 
> document
>
>
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Re: [efloraofindia:114073] 20042012 ASP 02 (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)

2012-04-20 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Alliaria petiolata


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Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
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http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:48 PM, shivaprakash adavanne (Google Docs) <
adava...@gmail.com> wrote:

> [image: Document] I've shared 20042012 ASP 
> 02
>  Click to open:
>
>- 20042012 ASP 
> 02
>
>
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Re: [efloraofindia:114072] Requesting id 20042012 ASP 05 (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)

2012-04-20 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Colchicum luteum

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On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:59 PM, shivaprakash adavanne (Google Docs) <
adava...@gmail.com> wrote:

> [image: Document] I've shared Requesting id 20042012 ASP 
> 05
>  Click to open:
>
>- Requesting id 20042012 ASP 
> 05
>
>
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Re: [efloraofindia:114071] Requesting id 20042012 ASP 03 (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)

2012-04-20 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Yes Narcissus pseudonarcissus


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On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Vijayasankar wrote:

> This is 'daffodil', Narcissus sp.
>
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Narcissus_pseudonarcissus_%28daffodills%29_-_1.jpg
>
> Regards
>
> Vijayasankar Raman
> National Center for Natural Products Research
> University of Mississippi
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:22 AM, shivaprakash adavanne (Google Docs) <
> adava...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  [image: Document] I've shared Requesting id 20042012 ASP 
>> 03
>>  Click to open:
>>
>>- Requesting id 20042012 ASP 
>> 03
>>
>>
>> Google Docs makes it easy to create, store and share online documents,
>> spreadsheets and presentations.
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>>
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Re: [efloraofindia:114070] Requesting id 20042012 ASP 05

2012-04-20 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Colchicum luteum I hope


-- 
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Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:18 PM, Neil Soares wrote:

> Hi,
>  This could be a species of Hypoxis.
>With regards,
>  Neil Soares.
>
> --- On *Fri, 4/20/12, shivaprakash adavanne * wrote:
>
>
> From: shivaprakash adavanne 
> Subject: [efloraofindia:114016] Requesting id 20042012 ASP 05
> To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 10:38 PM
>
>
> Dear friends,
>
> Sub: Requesting id 20042012 ASP 05
> Here are photos of flowering plant from Srinagar, J & K photographed
> during third week of March. Requesting id.
>
> Regards
>
> A.Shivaprakash
>
>


Re: [efloraofindia:114069] Requesting id 20042012 ASP 04 (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)

2012-04-20 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Viola odorata I hope


-- 
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Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 5:41 AM, Nidhan Singh wrote:

> This is a Viola species
> --
> Regards,
>
> Dr. Nidhan Singh
> Department of Botany
> I.B. (PG) College
> Panipat-132103 Haryana
> Ph.: 09416371227
>
>


Re: [efloraofindia:114068] Re: Requesting id 20042012 ASP 01 (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)

2012-04-20 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Magnolia liliiflora

-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 6:17 AM, Dr Pankaj Kumar wrote:

> I think this is a hybrid Magnolia. Very common here in garden.
> Pankaj
>
>


[efloraofindia:114068] Re: Requesting id 20042012 ASP 01 (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)

2012-04-20 Thread Dr Pankaj Kumar
I think this is a hybrid Magnolia. Very common here in garden.
Pankaj



[efloraofindia:114067] Re: Most matured person on this Group: my vote Dr. Pankaj Sahni

2012-04-20 Thread Dr Pankaj Kumar
Shock treatments !!! :(
Thanks Vijay and Giby for your good words.
Take care and enjoy.
Pankaj



[efloraofindia:114066] Re: ORCHIDACEAE: Bulbophyllum wendlandianum (Kraenzl.) Dammer from Hong Kong (from Thailand)

2012-04-20 Thread Dr Pankaj Kumar

>
> Actually its a bad photoshop Vijay!!! I didnt invest much time as the pics 
> were taken inside office. It was raining heavily outside, so I was trying 
> hard to remove the background.
>
Pankaj
 


[efloraofindia:114065] Re: Quiz : which Ficus is this? from Hooghly

2012-04-20 Thread Dr Pankaj Kumar
Ficus rumphii.
Pankaj




[efloraofindia:114064] Re: Book Chapter

2012-04-20 Thread Dr Pankaj Kumar

>
> Nice work Giby keep it up. Hope I will get a copy somehow :)

And also say my hello to Amrita!!! Hope she is doing fine after moving out 
of ATREE.
Pankaj


 


Re: [efloraofindia:114062] Book Chapter

2012-04-20 Thread Nidhan Singh
Congrats Dr. Giby for this beautiful publication..looks very impressive
and really is a brilliant work.
-- 
Regards,

Dr. Nidhan Singh
Department of Botany
I.B. (PG) College
Panipat-132103 Haryana
Ph.: 09416371227


Re: [efloraofindia:114061] Requesting id 20042012 ASP 04 (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)

2012-04-20 Thread Nidhan Singh
This is a Viola species
-- 
Regards,

Dr. Nidhan Singh
Department of Botany
I.B. (PG) College
Panipat-132103 Haryana
Ph.: 09416371227


Re: [efloraofindia:114060] Request Identification

2012-04-20 Thread Nidhan Singh
Nice pics Ganesh Ji,

This is Capparis aphylla as identified by Vijayasankar Ji and Satish
Ji..local name Punjab, Haryana: Karir



-- 
Regards,

Dr. Nidhan Singh
Department of Botany
I.B. (PG) College
Panipat-132103 Haryana
Ph.: 09416371227


Re: [efloraofindia:114059] Asteraceae for identification 210412MK03

2012-04-20 Thread Nidhan Singh
This is Echinops echinatus..
-- 
Regards,

Dr. Nidhan Singh
Department of Botany
I.B. (PG) College
Panipat-132103 Haryana
Ph.: 09416371227


Re: [efloraofindia:114058] Re: Mimosaceae Tree for identification 190412MK03

2012-04-20 Thread Muthu Karthick
Thanks for the lead Mahadeswaraji

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:44 PM, Satish Phadke  wrote:

> Acacia suma. Now included into ?A.ferruginea.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Mahadeswara  wrote:
>
>> *Acacia polyacantha * (syn. *A.suma*)   There are four sup species.
>> Check  the characters and decide the sub sp.
>>
>>
>> On Friday, April 20, 2012 12:17:54 AM UTC+5:30, Muthu Karthick, N wrote:
>>>
>>> *Dear all,
>>> Please help me to identify this tree species. Is this Acacia sp.? I
>>> could not see the flowers. Leaves were of 12-15 cm longer (young leaves).
>>> The height of the tree was up to 10 metres and a girth of about 50cm.
>>>
>>> Location: Bommiampatty RF; Salem dist., TN
>>> Terrain: scrub and thorny forest
>>> Altitude: c. 410 M ASL*
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/**document/d/1fQyGB4EUW8ir-**
>>> iROPW9UE61nTWVie1cQHKHgZWKKccA**/edit
>>>
>>> Date: 15 Apr 2012**
>>> **
>>> **
>>> **
>>> *
>>> *
>>> --
>>> Muthu Karthick, N
>>> Care Earth Trust
>>> #15, second main road,
>>> Thillai ganga nagar,
>>> Chennai - 600 061
>>> Mob: 0091 96268 33911
>>> www.careearthtrust.org
>>>
>>>
>
>
> --
> Dr Satish Phadke
>



-- 
Muthu Karthick, N
Care Earth Trust
#15, second main road,
Thillai ganga nagar,
Chennai - 600 061
Mob: 0091 96268 33911
www.careearthtrust.org


Re: [efloraofindia:114057] Euphorbia for identification 190412MK01

2012-04-20 Thread Muthu Karthick
Is this plant native to peninsular India?

On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 5:05 AM, Muthu Karthick  wrote:

> Many thanks Vijayasankar sir.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:47 PM, Satish Phadke wrote:
>
>> Very unique stem!
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Vijayasankar 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Euphorbia nivulia.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Vijayasankar Raman
>>> National Center for Natural Products Research
>>> University of Mississippi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 5:33 AM, Muthu Karthick wrote:
>>>
 *Dear all,
 Please help me to identify this cactus like plant.

 Place: Danishpettai RF, Salem dist., TN
 Altitude: 423 M asl
 Date: 12 April 2012

 The leaves were withered off and I didn’t noticed any flowers or
 fruits. The maximum height I saw was of c.5 metres and a girth of 40 cm.
 *


 https://docs.google.com/document/d/13CTmfE1xo95r_0vz4kJNORNWztD787JSWy8NQzSTrN4/edit?pli=1

 **

 **

 **

 **
 **

 --
 Muthu Karthick, N
 Care Earth Trust
 #15, second main road,
 Thillai ganga nagar,
 Chennai - 600 061
 Mob: 0091 96268 33911
 www.careearthtrust.org


>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr Satish Phadke
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Muthu Karthick, N
> Care Earth Trust
> #15, second main road,
> Thillai ganga nagar,
> Chennai - 600 061
> Mob: 0091 96268 33911
> www.careearthtrust.org
>
>


-- 
Muthu Karthick, N
Care Earth Trust
#15, second main road,
Thillai ganga nagar,
Chennai - 600 061
Mob: 0091 96268 33911
www.careearthtrust.org


Re: [efloraofindia:114056] Euphorbia for identification 190412MK01

2012-04-20 Thread Muthu Karthick
Many thanks Vijayasankar sir.

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:47 PM, Satish Phadke  wrote:

> Very unique stem!
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Vijayasankar wrote:
>
>> Euphorbia nivulia.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Vijayasankar Raman
>> National Center for Natural Products Research
>> University of Mississippi
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 5:33 AM, Muthu Karthick wrote:
>>
>>> *Dear all,
>>> Please help me to identify this cactus like plant.
>>>
>>> Place: Danishpettai RF, Salem dist., TN
>>> Altitude: 423 M asl
>>> Date: 12 April 2012
>>>
>>> The leaves were withered off and I didn’t noticed any flowers or fruits.
>>> The maximum height I saw was of c.5 metres and a girth of 40 cm.*
>>>
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/13CTmfE1xo95r_0vz4kJNORNWztD787JSWy8NQzSTrN4/edit?pli=1
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> **
>>> **
>>>
>>> --
>>> Muthu Karthick, N
>>> Care Earth Trust
>>> #15, second main road,
>>> Thillai ganga nagar,
>>> Chennai - 600 061
>>> Mob: 0091 96268 33911
>>> www.careearthtrust.org
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Dr Satish Phadke
>



-- 
Muthu Karthick, N
Care Earth Trust
#15, second main road,
Thillai ganga nagar,
Chennai - 600 061
Mob: 0091 96268 33911
www.careearthtrust.org


[efloraofindia:114055] Asteraceae for identification 210412MK03

2012-04-20 Thread Muthu Karthick
*Dear all,
Please help me to identify this plant found near a remote village near
Bandipur Tiger Reserve, Karnataka. The height was about two feet.

Date: 07 March 2012
Time: 4: 30 PM

Locale: 11.65710 N; 76.70553 E
Altitude: 985 M ASL*

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yaSlXoMz0WibKTKKH2BqYXTe1coeNymgOvYIZ-CIfCM/edit


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**



**


-- 
Muthu Karthick, N
Care Earth Trust
#15, second main road,
Thillai ganga nagar,
Chennai - 600 061
Mob: 0091 96268 33911
www.careearthtrust.org


[efloraofindia:114054] Lilliaceae for identification 210412MK02

2012-04-20 Thread Muthu Karthick
*Dear all,
Please help me to identify this herb found on the scrub forest floor in
Salem district of TN. I could not locate the leaves but only peduncle with
flowers. I saw this on a hot sunny day of 12 Apr 2012.

Locale: 11.90296 N; 78.15266 E
Altitude: 432 M ASL*

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZKoc3J2JulZzrEiKL5GgK38UwAatSaf9yqa_V84F_n4/edit


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**



-- 
Muthu Karthick, N
Care Earth Trust
#15, second main road,
Thillai ganga nagar,
Chennai - 600 061
Mob: 0091 96268 33911
www.careearthtrust.org


Re: [efloraofindia:114053] Re: Capparaceae for identification 200412MK03

2012-04-20 Thread Muthu Karthick
Thank you very much Vijayasankar sir; but I imagine the leaves are more
linear in *C.divaricata*.
The flowers were taken the previous day (13 Apr 2012) but in a different
location of 300 metres away.

Time of photography: 02:45 PM

On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 4:16 AM, Muthu Karthick  wrote:

> *Dear all,
> Are these flowers of Capparis divaricata? The leaf morphology is similar
> to that of C.divaricata.
>
> Altitude: 500 M ASL
> Terrain: Dry scrub hillock
> Location: an RF near Salem town of TN
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Vijayasankar wrote:
>
>> Capparis divaricata, I think.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Vijayasankar Raman
>> National Center for Natural Products Research
>> University of Mississippi
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Muthu Karthick wrote:
>>
>>> *Adding more pictures of the same plant in different location.
>>>
>>> Location: Bommiampatty RF; Salem dist., TN
>>> Altitude: 460 M ASL
>>>
>>> Date: 14 Apr 2012*
>>>
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Akcb9VVhMs6eB3OqQ7rn6mssADIzyfnv1DpQTwqcI70/edit
>>>
>>> **
>>> **
>>> **
>>> **
>>> **
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *
>>> *
>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 1:42 AM, Muthu Karthick wrote:
>>>
 *Dear all,
 Please help me to identify this capparaceae member. Could this be any 
 Capparis
 sp.?

 Leaf size: 6 x 1.5cm*


 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KC3TcbFeCY6G5lGQnbXiMXFyPkc6fRJaaJ2tQEE0poo/edit


 **
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 **



 **

 --
 Muthu Karthick, N
 Care Earth Trust
 #15, second main road,
 Thillai ganga nagar,
 Chennai - 600 061
 Mob: 0091 96268 33911
 www.careearthtrust.org


>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Muthu Karthick, N
>>> Care Earth Trust
>>> #15, second main road,
>>> Thillai ganga nagar,
>>> Chennai - 600 061
>>> Mob: 0091 96268 33911
>>> www.careearthtrust.org
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Muthu Karthick, N
> Care Earth Trust
> #15, second main road,
> Thillai ganga nagar,
> Chennai - 600 061
> Mob: 0091 96268 33911
> www.careearthtrust.org
>
>


-- 
Muthu Karthick, N
Care Earth Trust
#15, second main road,
Thillai ganga nagar,
Chennai - 600 061
Mob: 0091 96268 33911
www.careearthtrust.org


Re: [efloraofindia:114052] Re: Capparaceae for identification 200412MK03

2012-04-20 Thread Muthu Karthick
*Dear all,
Are these flowers of Capparis divaricata? The leaf morphology is similar to
that of C.divaricata.

Altitude: 500 M ASL
Terrain: Dry scrub hillock
Location: an RF near Salem town of TN














*

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Vijayasankar wrote:

> Capparis divaricata, I think.
>
> Regards
>
> Vijayasankar Raman
> National Center for Natural Products Research
> University of Mississippi
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Muthu Karthick  wrote:
>
>> *Adding more pictures of the same plant in different location.
>>
>> Location: Bommiampatty RF; Salem dist., TN
>> Altitude: 460 M ASL
>>
>> Date: 14 Apr 2012*
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Akcb9VVhMs6eB3OqQ7rn6mssADIzyfnv1DpQTwqcI70/edit
>>
>> **
>> **
>> **
>> **
>> **
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *
>> *
>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 1:42 AM, Muthu Karthick wrote:
>>
>>> *Dear all,
>>> Please help me to identify this capparaceae member. Could this be any 
>>> Capparis
>>> sp.?
>>>
>>> Leaf size: 6 x 1.5cm*
>>>
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KC3TcbFeCY6G5lGQnbXiMXFyPkc6fRJaaJ2tQEE0poo/edit
>>>
>>>
>>> **
>>> **
>>> **
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> --
>>> Muthu Karthick, N
>>> Care Earth Trust
>>> #15, second main road,
>>> Thillai ganga nagar,
>>> Chennai - 600 061
>>> Mob: 0091 96268 33911
>>> www.careearthtrust.org
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Muthu Karthick, N
>> Care Earth Trust
>> #15, second main road,
>> Thillai ganga nagar,
>> Chennai - 600 061
>> Mob: 0091 96268 33911
>> www.careearthtrust.org
>>
>>
>


-- 
Muthu Karthick, N
Care Earth Trust
#15, second main road,
Thillai ganga nagar,
Chennai - 600 061
Mob: 0091 96268 33911
www.careearthtrust.org


[efloraofindia:114051] Twiner for identification 210412MK01

2012-04-20 Thread Muthu Karthick
*Dear all,
Please help me to identify this twiner found in a scrub forest near Salem
town of Tamil Nadu.

Date: 15 April 2012
Altitude: 450 M ASL

The leaves are of 5 x 3 cm and fruits are of c.1cm across. Is this any
Menispermiaceae?





















*


Re: [efloraofindia:114050] Terminalia bellirica page from FPB (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)

2012-04-20 Thread Pankaj Oudhia
Yes, waiting for other members specially Nayan ji.

regards

Pankaj Oudhia

On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 2:25 AM, Vijayasankar wrote:

> Please also read Cooke's remark on the glands (2nd para).
> It may be a very rare occurrence, but I have never come across so far.
> Let's here from other members about their observations, too.
>
> Regards
>
> Vijayasankar Raman
> National Center for Natural Products Research
> University of Mississippi
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Pankaj Oudhia wrote:
>
>> Some pictures with close view of Bahera with new red leaves.
>>
>> http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=70399
>>
>> http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=70392
>>
>> http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=70414
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Pankaj Oudhia
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Neil Soares wrote:
>>
>>> That's fair enough Dr. Vijayasankar, but please take another look at the
>>> photograph.
>>>   With regards,
>>> Neil Soares.
>>>
>>> --- On *Fri, 4/20/12, Vijayasankar Raman (Google Docs) <
>>> vijay.botan...@gmail.com>* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Vijayasankar Raman (Google Docs) 
>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:114027] Terminalia bellirica page from FPB (
>>> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)
>>> To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 11:21 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: Document] I've shared Terminalia bellirica page from 
>>> FPB
>>> Click to open:
>>>
>>>- Terminalia bellirica page from 
>>> FPB
>>>
>>>
>>>  Terminalia belli(e)rica page from Cooke’s Flora of Presidency of
>>> Bombay_Vol. 1
>>>
>>> (line 8 in the description para).
>>>
>>>
>>> Google Docs makes it easy to create, store and share online documents,
>>> spreadsheets and presentations.
>>> [image: Logo for Google Docs] 
>>>
>>>
>>
>


Re: [efloraofindia:114049] Terminalia bellirica page from FPB (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)

2012-04-20 Thread Vijayasankar
Please also read Cooke's remark on the glands (2nd para).
It may be a very rare occurrence, but I have never come across so far.
Let's here from other members about their observations, too.

Regards

Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi


On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Pankaj Oudhia wrote:

> Some pictures with close view of Bahera with new red leaves.
>
> http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=70399
>
> http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=70392
>
> http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=70414
>
> regards
>
> Pankaj Oudhia
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Neil Soares wrote:
>
>> That's fair enough Dr. Vijayasankar, but please take another look at the
>> photograph.
>>   With regards,
>> Neil Soares.
>>
>> --- On *Fri, 4/20/12, Vijayasankar Raman (Google Docs) <
>> vijay.botan...@gmail.com>* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Vijayasankar Raman (Google Docs) 
>> Subject: [efloraofindia:114027] Terminalia bellirica page from FPB (
>> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)
>> To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 11:21 PM
>>
>>
>> [image: Document] I've shared Terminalia bellirica page from 
>> FPB
>> Click to open:
>>
>>- Terminalia bellirica page from 
>> FPB
>>
>>
>>  Terminalia belli(e)rica page from Cooke’s Flora of Presidency of
>> Bombay_Vol. 1
>>
>> (line 8 in the description para).
>>
>>
>> Google Docs makes it easy to create, store and share online documents,
>> spreadsheets and presentations.
>> [image: Logo for Google Docs] 
>>
>>
>


Re: [efloraofindia:114048] Quiz : which Ficus is this? from Hooghly

2012-04-20 Thread surajit koley
Sir,

According to this link http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/57823/ foliage
of *F. rumphii** *is evergreen but my images tell me that my tree is
deciduous.

Regards,

surajit


Re: [efloraofindia:114047] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2

2012-04-20 Thread surajit koley
Yes Sir, the second pic looks like compound leaves.

Good night Sir... a happy weekend in advance

Regards,

surajit

On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 12:45 AM, Pankaj Oudhia wrote:

> Thanks. It seems that error has occurred in Ecoport record. ;(
>
> regards
>
> Pankaj Oudhia
>
> On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 12:36 AM, Vijayasankar 
> wrote:
>
>> Pankaj ji, I think some error has happened in attaching files. The second
>> batch of pictures are of Scleichera oleosa, I think.
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Vijayasankar Raman
>> National Center for Natural Products Research
>> University of Mississippi
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 1:47 PM, surajit koley <
>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sir,
>>>
>>> Very strange! These new leaves don't have any petiole!
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Surajit
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 12:06 AM, Pankaj Oudhia 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Some more pictures of Bahera leaves during rainy season.

 http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=104274

 http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=104275

 regards

 Pankaj Oudhia

 On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:59 PM, surajit koley <
 surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Wonderful shots Sir, all of them, this one
> http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=70392 is superb.
>
> Regards,
>
> surajit
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Pankaj Oudhia <
> pankajoud...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Some pictures with close view of Bahera with new red leaves.
>>
>> http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=70399
>>
>> http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=70392
>>
>> http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=70414
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Pankaj Oudhia
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:51 PM, surajit koley <
>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sir,
>>> It's getting more and more complicated... but one thing is for sure
>>> - the post wins :)
>>>  Thank you very much.
>>> Regards,
>>> surajit
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Pankaj Oudhia <
>>> pankajoud...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 "Glands absent."

 Flora of Madhya Pradesh by BSI confirms the quote of Vijayashankar
 ji.

 regards

 Pankaj Oudhia

 On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Vijayasankar <
 vijay.botan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Pl don't worry Satish ji. Surajit ji can't do that :) beacuse T.
> bellirica is perhaps the only species (in India at least) that do not 
> have
> foliar glands. Sorry to disappoint you :)
> However, the posted pictures are of *Terminalia bellirica* as
> identified by Dr. Neil. We have observed variations in the size and 
> shape
> of leaves as well as fruits in this species.
>
> Regards
>
> Vijayasankar Raman
> National Center for Natural Products Research
> University of Mississippi
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Satish Phadke <
> drsmpha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Surajit ji
>> May I request you one thing. Try to capture the glands at the
>> base of mature leaf. I am sure you will do that.
>> Unfortunately I don't have good photograph of these.
>> I recently learnt that every Terminalia has unique gland
>> structure. Why not have good photographs of each?
>> This request is even to other members.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley <
>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Neil Sir & Pankaj Sir,
>>>
>>> Good evening...
>>>
>>> I am now convinced that the plant/tree is *T. bellirica* as
>>> have been identified by you. Initially i was hesitant because -
>>>
>>> 1) because of the description of 2.15 cm long leaf-stalk as in -
>>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html
>>>
>>> 2) in my images all leaves originate from the apex of the shoot,
>>> whereas your imges at -
>>> http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999&res=640 and at
>>> -
>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Terminalia$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/3xFtSa7jWFo/rq4suJX2k-IJ
>>> show alternate leaves. Most other images available in the net also 
>>> tally
>>> with both of you.
>>>
>>> However, after more search found my target at -
>>> http://ayurvedaelements.com/resources/spice/Terminalia%20belerica.png?timestamp=1266630963601.
>>>  Moreover, wiki says, "Two varieties of
>>> *T. belerica* are found in India..." -
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_bellirica

Re: [efloraofindia:114046] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2

2012-04-20 Thread Pankaj Oudhia
Thanks. It seems that error has occurred in Ecoport record. ;(

regards

Pankaj Oudhia

On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 12:36 AM, Vijayasankar wrote:

> Pankaj ji, I think some error has happened in attaching files. The second
> batch of pictures are of Scleichera oleosa, I think.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Vijayasankar Raman
> National Center for Natural Products Research
> University of Mississippi
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 1:47 PM, surajit koley <
> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sir,
>>
>> Very strange! These new leaves don't have any petiole!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Surajit
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 12:06 AM, Pankaj Oudhia 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Some more pictures of Bahera leaves during rainy season.
>>>
>>> http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=104274
>>>
>>> http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=104275
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> Pankaj Oudhia
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:59 PM, surajit koley <
>>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Wonderful shots Sir, all of them, this one
 http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=70392 is superb.

 Regards,

 surajit

 On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Pankaj Oudhia >>> > wrote:

> Some pictures with close view of Bahera with new red leaves.
>
> http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=70399
>
> http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=70392
>
> http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=70414
>
> regards
>
> Pankaj Oudhia
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:51 PM, surajit koley <
> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sir,
>> It's getting more and more complicated... but one thing is for sure -
>> the post wins :)
>>  Thank you very much.
>> Regards,
>> surajit
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Pankaj Oudhia <
>> pankajoud...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Glands absent."
>>>
>>> Flora of Madhya Pradesh by BSI confirms the quote of Vijayashankar
>>> ji.
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> Pankaj Oudhia
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Vijayasankar <
>>> vijay.botan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Pl don't worry Satish ji. Surajit ji can't do that :) beacuse T.
 bellirica is perhaps the only species (in India at least) that do not 
 have
 foliar glands. Sorry to disappoint you :)
 However, the posted pictures are of *Terminalia bellirica* as
 identified by Dr. Neil. We have observed variations in the size and 
 shape
 of leaves as well as fruits in this species.

 Regards

 Vijayasankar Raman
 National Center for Natural Products Research
 University of Mississippi



 On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Satish Phadke <
 drsmpha...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Surajit ji
> May I request you one thing. Try to capture the glands at the base
> of mature leaf. I am sure you will do that.
> Unfortunately I don't have good photograph of these.
> I recently learnt that every Terminalia has unique gland
> structure. Why not have good photographs of each?
> This request is even to other members.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley <
> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Neil Sir & Pankaj Sir,
>>
>> Good evening...
>>
>> I am now convinced that the plant/tree is *T. bellirica* as have
>> been identified by you. Initially i was hesitant because -
>>
>> 1) because of the description of 2.15 cm long leaf-stalk as in -
>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html
>>
>> 2) in my images all leaves originate from the apex of the shoot,
>> whereas your imges at -
>> http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999&res=640 and at
>> -
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Terminalia$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/3xFtSa7jWFo/rq4suJX2k-IJ
>> show alternate leaves. Most other images available in the net also 
>> tally
>> with both of you.
>>
>> However, after more search found my target at -
>> http://ayurvedaelements.com/resources/spice/Terminalia%20belerica.png?timestamp=1266630963601.
>>  Moreover, wiki says, "Two varieties of
>> *T. belerica* are found in India..." -
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_bellirica.
>>
>> Thank you very much for giving me your valuable time and
>> identifying this tree. I cannot express my gratitude in terms of 
>> words only.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Surajit
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Neil Soares <
>> drnei

Re: [efloraofindia:114045] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2

2012-04-20 Thread Vijayasankar
Pankaj ji, I think some error has happened in attaching files. The second
batch of pictures are of Scleichera oleosa, I think.

Regards

Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi


On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 1:47 PM, surajit koley <
surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sir,
>
> Very strange! These new leaves don't have any petiole!
>
> Regards,
>
> Surajit
>
> On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 12:06 AM, Pankaj Oudhia wrote:
>
>> Some more pictures of Bahera leaves during rainy season.
>>
>> http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=104274
>>
>> http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=104275
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Pankaj Oudhia
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:59 PM, surajit koley <
>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Wonderful shots Sir, all of them, this one
>>> http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=70392 is superb.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> surajit
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Pankaj Oudhia 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Some pictures with close view of Bahera with new red leaves.

 http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=70399

 http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=70392

 http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=70414

 regards

 Pankaj Oudhia

 On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:51 PM, surajit koley <
 surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sir,
> It's getting more and more complicated... but one thing is for sure -
> the post wins :)
>  Thank you very much.
> Regards,
> surajit
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Pankaj Oudhia <
> pankajoud...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Glands absent."
>>
>> Flora of Madhya Pradesh by BSI confirms the quote of Vijayashankar ji.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Pankaj Oudhia
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Vijayasankar <
>> vijay.botan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Pl don't worry Satish ji. Surajit ji can't do that :) beacuse T.
>>> bellirica is perhaps the only species (in India at least) that do not 
>>> have
>>> foliar glands. Sorry to disappoint you :)
>>> However, the posted pictures are of *Terminalia bellirica* as
>>> identified by Dr. Neil. We have observed variations in the size and 
>>> shape
>>> of leaves as well as fruits in this species.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Vijayasankar Raman
>>> National Center for Natural Products Research
>>> University of Mississippi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Satish Phadke <
>>> drsmpha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Surajit ji
 May I request you one thing. Try to capture the glands at the base
 of mature leaf. I am sure you will do that.
 Unfortunately I don't have good photograph of these.
 I recently learnt that every Terminalia has unique gland structure.
 Why not have good photographs of each?
 This request is even to other members.



 On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley <
 surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Neil Sir & Pankaj Sir,
>
> Good evening...
>
> I am now convinced that the plant/tree is *T. bellirica* as have
> been identified by you. Initially i was hesitant because -
>
> 1) because of the description of 2.15 cm long leaf-stalk as in -
> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html
>
> 2) in my images all leaves originate from the apex of the shoot,
> whereas your imges at -
> http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999&res=640 and at -
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Terminalia$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/3xFtSa7jWFo/rq4suJX2k-IJ
> show alternate leaves. Most other images available in the net also 
> tally
> with both of you.
>
> However, after more search found my target at -
> http://ayurvedaelements.com/resources/spice/Terminalia%20belerica.png?timestamp=1266630963601.
>  Moreover, wiki says, "Two varieties of
> *T. belerica* are found in India..." -
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_bellirica.
>
> Thank you very much for giving me your valuable time and
> identifying this tree. I cannot express my gratitude in terms of 
> words only.
>
> Regards,
>
> Surajit
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Neil Soares <
> drneilsoa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Nice photograph Dr. Oudhia. To view my photograph please type '
>> Terminalia bellirica Neil Soares' in the Mail Search box above and 
>> check my
>> mail dated 15th April 2011.
>>   With regards,
>> Neil 

Re: [efloraofindia:114044] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2

2012-04-20 Thread surajit koley
Sir,

Very strange! These new leaves don't have any petiole!

Regards,

Surajit

On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 12:06 AM, Pankaj Oudhia wrote:

> Some more pictures of Bahera leaves during rainy season.
>
> http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=104274
>
> http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=104275
>
> regards
>
> Pankaj Oudhia
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:59 PM, surajit koley <
> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Wonderful shots Sir, all of them, this one
>> http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=70392 is superb.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> surajit
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Pankaj Oudhia 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Some pictures with close view of Bahera with new red leaves.
>>>
>>> http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=70399
>>>
>>> http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=70392
>>>
>>> http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=70414
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> Pankaj Oudhia
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:51 PM, surajit koley <
>>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Sir,
 It's getting more and more complicated... but one thing is for sure -
 the post wins :)
  Thank you very much.
 Regards,
 surajit

 On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Pankaj Oudhia >>> > wrote:

> "Glands absent."
>
> Flora of Madhya Pradesh by BSI confirms the quote of Vijayashankar ji.
>
> regards
>
> Pankaj Oudhia
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Vijayasankar <
> vijay.botan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Pl don't worry Satish ji. Surajit ji can't do that :) beacuse T.
>> bellirica is perhaps the only species (in India at least) that do not 
>> have
>> foliar glands. Sorry to disappoint you :)
>> However, the posted pictures are of *Terminalia bellirica* as
>> identified by Dr. Neil. We have observed variations in the size and shape
>> of leaves as well as fruits in this species.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Vijayasankar Raman
>> National Center for Natural Products Research
>> University of Mississippi
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Satish Phadke > > wrote:
>>
>>> Surajit ji
>>> May I request you one thing. Try to capture the glands at the base
>>> of mature leaf. I am sure you will do that.
>>> Unfortunately I don't have good photograph of these.
>>> I recently learnt that every Terminalia has unique gland structure.
>>> Why not have good photographs of each?
>>> This request is even to other members.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley <
>>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Dear Neil Sir & Pankaj Sir,

 Good evening...

 I am now convinced that the plant/tree is *T. bellirica* as have
 been identified by you. Initially i was hesitant because -

 1) because of the description of 2.15 cm long leaf-stalk as in -
 http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html

 2) in my images all leaves originate from the apex of the shoot,
 whereas your imges at -
 http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999&res=640 and at -
 https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Terminalia$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/3xFtSa7jWFo/rq4suJX2k-IJ
 show alternate leaves. Most other images available in the net also 
 tally
 with both of you.

 However, after more search found my target at -
 http://ayurvedaelements.com/resources/spice/Terminalia%20belerica.png?timestamp=1266630963601.
  Moreover, wiki says, "Two varieties of
 *T. belerica* are found in India..." -
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_bellirica.

 Thank you very much for giving me your valuable time and
 identifying this tree. I cannot express my gratitude in terms of words 
 only.

 Regards,

 Surajit




 On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Neil Soares <
 drneilsoa...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Nice photograph Dr. Oudhia. To view my photograph please type '
> Terminalia bellirica Neil Soares' in the Mail Search box above and 
> check my
> mail dated 15th April 2011.
>   With regards,
> Neil Soares.
>
> --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, Pankaj Oudhia *wrote:
>
>
> From: Pankaj Oudhia 
> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113771] roadside tree ID from Hooghly
> 19-04-12 SK-2
> To: "Neil Soares" 
> Cc: "surajit koley" , "Tanay Bose"
> , indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 12:04 PM
>
> My picture of Baheda (Terminalia bellirica) for comparison
>
> http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?

Re: [efloraofindia:114043] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2

2012-04-20 Thread surajit koley
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 12:06 AM, Pankaj Oudhia wrote:

> Some more pictures of Bahera leaves during rainy season.
>
> http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=104274
>
> http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=104275
>
> regards
>
> Pankaj Oudhia
>
>
>


Re: [efloraofindia:114042] wild herb ID from Hooghly 20-04-12 SK-1

2012-04-20 Thread surajit koley
Thank you Sir, for the link, it's a very informative document.

Regards,

surajit


On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:57 PM, Pankaj Oudhia wrote:

> Dear Surajit ji,
>
> For Parthenium please visit International Parthenium Research News
> Group at
>
> http://www.pankajoudhia.com/iprng/
>
> You can also join IPRNG Yahoo group at
>
> in.groups.yahoo.com/group/*IPRNG*/
>
> regards
>
> Pankaj Oudhia
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:05 PM, surajit koley <
> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Sir for the info. I have heard that *Parthenium* also came
>> from America.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Surajit
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Gurcharan Singh wrote:
>>
>>> North American weed now spread in many parts of the world.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:37 AM, surajit koley <
>>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 (You are) Great Sir thank you very much.

 One more question, please, is it native or comes from North America?

 Regards,

 Surajit





 On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:24 AM, Gurcharan Singh wrote:

> I hope Gamochaeta pensylvanica, the connate pappus is clearly seen
>
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
>
>
>
>
>

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>


Re: [efloraofindia:114041] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2

2012-04-20 Thread Pankaj Oudhia
Some more pictures of Bahera leaves during rainy season.

http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=104274

http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=104275

regards

Pankaj Oudhia

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:59 PM, surajit koley <
surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Wonderful shots Sir, all of them, this one
> http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=70392 is superb.
>
> Regards,
>
> surajit
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Pankaj Oudhia wrote:
>
>> Some pictures with close view of Bahera with new red leaves.
>>
>> http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=70399
>>
>> http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=70392
>>
>> http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=70414
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Pankaj Oudhia
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:51 PM, surajit koley <
>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sir,
>>> It's getting more and more complicated... but one thing is for sure -
>>> the post wins :)
>>>  Thank you very much.
>>> Regards,
>>> surajit
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Pankaj Oudhia 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 "Glands absent."

 Flora of Madhya Pradesh by BSI confirms the quote of Vijayashankar ji.

 regards

 Pankaj Oudhia

 On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Vijayasankar >>> > wrote:

> Pl don't worry Satish ji. Surajit ji can't do that :) beacuse T.
> bellirica is perhaps the only species (in India at least) that do not have
> foliar glands. Sorry to disappoint you :)
> However, the posted pictures are of *Terminalia bellirica* as
> identified by Dr. Neil. We have observed variations in the size and shape
> of leaves as well as fruits in this species.
>
> Regards
>
> Vijayasankar Raman
> National Center for Natural Products Research
> University of Mississippi
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Satish Phadke 
> wrote:
>
>> Surajit ji
>> May I request you one thing. Try to capture the glands at the base of
>> mature leaf. I am sure you will do that.
>> Unfortunately I don't have good photograph of these.
>> I recently learnt that every Terminalia has unique gland structure.
>> Why not have good photographs of each?
>> This request is even to other members.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley <
>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Neil Sir & Pankaj Sir,
>>>
>>> Good evening...
>>>
>>> I am now convinced that the plant/tree is *T. bellirica* as have
>>> been identified by you. Initially i was hesitant because -
>>>
>>> 1) because of the description of 2.15 cm long leaf-stalk as in -
>>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html
>>>
>>> 2) in my images all leaves originate from the apex of the shoot,
>>> whereas your imges at -
>>> http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999&res=640 and at -
>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Terminalia$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/3xFtSa7jWFo/rq4suJX2k-IJ
>>> show alternate leaves. Most other images available in the net also tally
>>> with both of you.
>>>
>>> However, after more search found my target at -
>>> http://ayurvedaelements.com/resources/spice/Terminalia%20belerica.png?timestamp=1266630963601.
>>>  Moreover, wiki says, "Two varieties of
>>> *T. belerica* are found in India..." -
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_bellirica.
>>>
>>> Thank you very much for giving me your valuable time and identifying
>>> this tree. I cannot express my gratitude in terms of words only.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Surajit
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Neil Soares >> > wrote:
>>>
 Nice photograph Dr. Oudhia. To view my photograph please type '
 Terminalia bellirica Neil Soares' in the Mail Search box above and 
 check my
 mail dated 15th April 2011.
   With regards,
 Neil Soares.

 --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, Pankaj Oudhia *wrote:


 From: Pankaj Oudhia 
 Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113771] roadside tree ID from Hooghly
 19-04-12 SK-2
 To: "Neil Soares" 
 Cc: "surajit koley" , "Tanay Bose" <
 tanaybos...@gmail.com>, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
 Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 12:04 PM

 My picture of Baheda (Terminalia bellirica) for comparison

 http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999&res=640

 regards

 Pankaj Oudhia

 On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Neil Soares <
 drneilsoa...@yahoo.com
 > wrote:

   Hi,
  Have many of these trees on my property at Shahpur. 

Re: [efloraofindia:114040] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2

2012-04-20 Thread surajit koley
Wonderful shots Sir, all of them, this one
http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=70392 is superb.

Regards,

surajit

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Pankaj Oudhia wrote:

> Some pictures with close view of Bahera with new red leaves.
>
> http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=70399
>
> http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=70392
>
> http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=70414
>
> regards
>
> Pankaj Oudhia
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:51 PM, surajit koley <
> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sir,
>> It's getting more and more complicated... but one thing is for sure - the
>> post wins :)
>>  Thank you very much.
>> Regards,
>> surajit
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Pankaj Oudhia 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Glands absent."
>>>
>>> Flora of Madhya Pradesh by BSI confirms the quote of Vijayashankar ji.
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> Pankaj Oudhia
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Vijayasankar 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Pl don't worry Satish ji. Surajit ji can't do that :) beacuse T.
 bellirica is perhaps the only species (in India at least) that do not have
 foliar glands. Sorry to disappoint you :)
 However, the posted pictures are of *Terminalia bellirica* as
 identified by Dr. Neil. We have observed variations in the size and shape
 of leaves as well as fruits in this species.

 Regards

 Vijayasankar Raman
 National Center for Natural Products Research
 University of Mississippi



 On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Satish Phadke 
 wrote:

> Surajit ji
> May I request you one thing. Try to capture the glands at the base of
> mature leaf. I am sure you will do that.
> Unfortunately I don't have good photograph of these.
> I recently learnt that every Terminalia has unique gland structure.
> Why not have good photographs of each?
> This request is even to other members.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley <
> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Neil Sir & Pankaj Sir,
>>
>> Good evening...
>>
>> I am now convinced that the plant/tree is *T. bellirica* as have
>> been identified by you. Initially i was hesitant because -
>>
>> 1) because of the description of 2.15 cm long leaf-stalk as in -
>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html
>>
>> 2) in my images all leaves originate from the apex of the shoot,
>> whereas your imges at -
>> http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999&res=640 and at -
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Terminalia$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/3xFtSa7jWFo/rq4suJX2k-IJ
>> show alternate leaves. Most other images available in the net also tally
>> with both of you.
>>
>> However, after more search found my target at -
>> http://ayurvedaelements.com/resources/spice/Terminalia%20belerica.png?timestamp=1266630963601.
>>  Moreover, wiki says, "Two varieties of
>> *T. belerica* are found in India..." -
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_bellirica.
>>
>> Thank you very much for giving me your valuable time and identifying
>> this tree. I cannot express my gratitude in terms of words only.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Surajit
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Neil Soares 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Nice photograph Dr. Oudhia. To view my photograph please type '
>>> Terminalia bellirica Neil Soares' in the Mail Search box above and 
>>> check my
>>> mail dated 15th April 2011.
>>>   With regards,
>>> Neil Soares.
>>>
>>> --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, Pankaj Oudhia * wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Pankaj Oudhia 
>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113771] roadside tree ID from Hooghly
>>> 19-04-12 SK-2
>>> To: "Neil Soares" 
>>> Cc: "surajit koley" , "Tanay Bose" <
>>> tanaybos...@gmail.com>, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 12:04 PM
>>>
>>> My picture of Baheda (Terminalia bellirica) for comparison
>>>
>>> http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999&res=640
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> Pankaj Oudhia
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Neil Soares 
>>> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>   Hi,
>>>  Have many of these trees on my property at Shahpur. Please also
>>> check my photographs of this which are in the archives of this group.
>>>With regards,
>>> Neil Soares.
>>>
>>> --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, surajit koley 
>>> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com>
>>> >* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: surajit koley 
>>> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@

Re: [efloraofindia:114039] wild herb ID from Hooghly 20-04-12 SK-1

2012-04-20 Thread Pankaj Oudhia
Dear Surajit ji,

For Parthenium please visit International Parthenium Research News
Group at

http://www.pankajoudhia.com/iprng/

You can also join IPRNG Yahoo group at

in.groups.yahoo.com/group/*IPRNG*/

regards

Pankaj Oudhia

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:05 PM, surajit koley <
surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you Sir for the info. I have heard that *Parthenium* also came from
> America.
>
> Regards,
>
> Surajit
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Gurcharan Singh wrote:
>
>> North American weed now spread in many parts of the world.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>> Retired  Associate Professor
>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:37 AM, surajit koley <
>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> (You are) Great Sir thank you very much.
>>>
>>> One more question, please, is it native or comes from North America?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Surajit
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:24 AM, Gurcharan Singh wrote:
>>>
 I hope Gamochaeta pensylvanica, the connate pappus is clearly seen


 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/






>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


Re: [efloraofindia:114038] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2

2012-04-20 Thread Pankaj Oudhia
Some pictures with close view of Bahera with new red leaves.

http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=70399

http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=70392

http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=70414

regards

Pankaj Oudhia

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:51 PM, surajit koley <
surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sir,
> It's getting more and more complicated... but one thing is for sure - the
> post wins :)
> Thank you very much.
> Regards,
> surajit
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Pankaj Oudhia wrote:
>
>> "Glands absent."
>>
>> Flora of Madhya Pradesh by BSI confirms the quote of Vijayashankar ji.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Pankaj Oudhia
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Vijayasankar 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Pl don't worry Satish ji. Surajit ji can't do that :) beacuse T.
>>> bellirica is perhaps the only species (in India at least) that do not have
>>> foliar glands. Sorry to disappoint you :)
>>> However, the posted pictures are of *Terminalia bellirica* as
>>> identified by Dr. Neil. We have observed variations in the size and shape
>>> of leaves as well as fruits in this species.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Vijayasankar Raman
>>> National Center for Natural Products Research
>>> University of Mississippi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Satish Phadke wrote:
>>>
 Surajit ji
 May I request you one thing. Try to capture the glands at the base of
 mature leaf. I am sure you will do that.
 Unfortunately I don't have good photograph of these.
 I recently learnt that every Terminalia has unique gland structure. Why
 not have good photographs of each?
 This request is even to other members.



 On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley <
 surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Neil Sir & Pankaj Sir,
>
> Good evening...
>
> I am now convinced that the plant/tree is *T. bellirica* as have been
> identified by you. Initially i was hesitant because -
>
> 1) because of the description of 2.15 cm long leaf-stalk as in -
> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html
>
> 2) in my images all leaves originate from the apex of the shoot,
> whereas your imges at -
> http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999&res=640 and at -
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Terminalia$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/3xFtSa7jWFo/rq4suJX2k-IJ
> show alternate leaves. Most other images available in the net also tally
> with both of you.
>
> However, after more search found my target at -
> http://ayurvedaelements.com/resources/spice/Terminalia%20belerica.png?timestamp=1266630963601.
>  Moreover, wiki says, "Two varieties of
> *T. belerica* are found in India..." -
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_bellirica.
>
> Thank you very much for giving me your valuable time and identifying
> this tree. I cannot express my gratitude in terms of words only.
>
> Regards,
>
> Surajit
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Neil Soares 
> wrote:
>
>> Nice photograph Dr. Oudhia. To view my photograph please type '
>> Terminalia bellirica Neil Soares' in the Mail Search box above and check 
>> my
>> mail dated 15th April 2011.
>>   With regards,
>> Neil Soares.
>>
>> --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, Pankaj Oudhia * wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Pankaj Oudhia 
>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113771] roadside tree ID from Hooghly
>> 19-04-12 SK-2
>> To: "Neil Soares" 
>> Cc: "surajit koley" , "Tanay Bose" <
>> tanaybos...@gmail.com>, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 12:04 PM
>>
>> My picture of Baheda (Terminalia bellirica) for comparison
>>
>> http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999&res=640
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Pankaj Oudhia
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Neil Soares 
>> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>
>> > wrote:
>>
>>   Hi,
>>  Have many of these trees on my property at Shahpur. Please also
>> check my photographs of this which are in the archives of this group.
>>With regards,
>> Neil Soares.
>>
>> --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, surajit koley 
>> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com>
>> >* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: surajit koley 
>> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com>
>> >
>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113745] roadside tree ID from Hooghly
>> 19-04-12 SK-2
>> To: "Neil Soares" 
>> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>
>> >
>> Cc: "Tanay Bose" 
>> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tanaybos...@gmail.com>>,
>> indiantr

Re: [efloraofindia:114037] Terminalia bellirica page from FPB (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)

2012-04-20 Thread Pankaj Oudhia
Some pictures with close view of Bahera with new red leaves.

http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=70399

http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=70392

http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdb&PdbID=70414

regards

Pankaj Oudhia

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Neil Soares wrote:

> That's fair enough Dr. Vijayasankar, but please take another look at the
> photograph.
>   With regards,
> Neil Soares.
>
> --- On *Fri, 4/20/12, Vijayasankar Raman (Google Docs) <
> vijay.botan...@gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Vijayasankar Raman (Google Docs) 
> Subject: [efloraofindia:114027] Terminalia bellirica page from FPB (
> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)
> To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 11:21 PM
>
>
> [image: Document] I've shared Terminalia bellirica page from 
> FPB
> Click to open:
>
>- Terminalia bellirica page from 
> FPB
>
>
>  Terminalia belli(e)rica page from Cooke’s Flora of Presidency of
> Bombay_Vol. 1
>
> (line 8 in the description para).
>
>
> Google Docs makes it easy to create, store and share online documents,
> spreadsheets and presentations.
> [image: Logo for Google Docs] 
>
>


Re: [efloraofindia:114036] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2

2012-04-20 Thread surajit koley
Sir,
It's getting more and more complicated... but one thing is for sure - the
post wins :)
Thank you very much.
Regards,
surajit

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Pankaj Oudhia wrote:

> "Glands absent."
>
> Flora of Madhya Pradesh by BSI confirms the quote of Vijayashankar ji.
>
> regards
>
> Pankaj Oudhia
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Vijayasankar wrote:
>
>> Pl don't worry Satish ji. Surajit ji can't do that :) beacuse T.
>> bellirica is perhaps the only species (in India at least) that do not have
>> foliar glands. Sorry to disappoint you :)
>> However, the posted pictures are of *Terminalia bellirica* as identified
>> by Dr. Neil. We have observed variations in the size and shape of leaves as
>> well as fruits in this species.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Vijayasankar Raman
>> National Center for Natural Products Research
>> University of Mississippi
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Satish Phadke wrote:
>>
>>> Surajit ji
>>> May I request you one thing. Try to capture the glands at the base of
>>> mature leaf. I am sure you will do that.
>>> Unfortunately I don't have good photograph of these.
>>> I recently learnt that every Terminalia has unique gland structure. Why
>>> not have good photographs of each?
>>> This request is even to other members.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley <
>>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Dear Neil Sir & Pankaj Sir,

 Good evening...

 I am now convinced that the plant/tree is *T. bellirica* as have been
 identified by you. Initially i was hesitant because -

 1) because of the description of 2.15 cm long leaf-stalk as in -
 http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html

 2) in my images all leaves originate from the apex of the shoot,
 whereas your imges at -
 http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999&res=640 and at -
 https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Terminalia$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/3xFtSa7jWFo/rq4suJX2k-IJ
 show alternate leaves. Most other images available in the net also tally
 with both of you.

 However, after more search found my target at -
 http://ayurvedaelements.com/resources/spice/Terminalia%20belerica.png?timestamp=1266630963601.
  Moreover, wiki says, "Two varieties of
 *T. belerica* are found in India..." -
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_bellirica.

 Thank you very much for giving me your valuable time and identifying
 this tree. I cannot express my gratitude in terms of words only.

 Regards,

 Surajit




 On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Neil Soares wrote:

> Nice photograph Dr. Oudhia. To view my photograph please type '
> Terminalia bellirica Neil Soares' in the Mail Search box above and check 
> my
> mail dated 15th April 2011.
>   With regards,
> Neil Soares.
>
> --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, Pankaj Oudhia * wrote:
>
>
> From: Pankaj Oudhia 
> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113771] roadside tree ID from Hooghly
> 19-04-12 SK-2
> To: "Neil Soares" 
> Cc: "surajit koley" , "Tanay Bose" <
> tanaybos...@gmail.com>, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 12:04 PM
>
> My picture of Baheda (Terminalia bellirica) for comparison
>
> http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999&res=640
>
> regards
>
> Pankaj Oudhia
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Neil Soares 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
>   Hi,
>  Have many of these trees on my property at Shahpur. Please also check
> my photographs of this which are in the archives of this group.
>With regards,
> Neil Soares.
>
> --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, surajit koley 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com>
> >* wrote:
>
>
> From: surajit koley 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com>
> >
> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113745] roadside tree ID from Hooghly
> 19-04-12 SK-2
> To: "Neil Soares" 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>
> >
> Cc: "Tanay Bose" 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tanaybos...@gmail.com>>,
> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 8:33 AM
>
>
> Good morning Sir and thank you.
>
> But the leaf stalk is much longer in my post than this description
> "Leaves are 8-20 cm long, 7.5-15 cm wide, on stalks 2.15 cm long" at
> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html.
>
> Have a nice day Sir
>
> Regards,

Re: [efloraofindia:114035] Quiz : which Ficus is this? from Hooghly

2012-04-20 Thread surajit koley
Thank you very much Sir, i have read a part of it at -
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Strangler$20Fig$20trees/indiantreepix/bXrwZNB1jEM/P-f0afyJ6KQJ.
I understabd that it is an epiphyte.

Regards,

surajit


On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:34 PM, Neil Soares wrote:

> Hi,
>  Am reproducing here some of my previous correspondence on this :
>
>
>25th July 2008
>
> ** **
>
> Hi,
>
>   Most Fig trees belong to a group called Primary Hemiepiphytes.
>
> A Parasite taps into the vascular system of the host plant for water and
> nutrients.
>
> An Epiphyte only takes support on the host tree while drawing water and
> nutrients from wherever they can get them.
>
> A Hemiepiphyte, by definition, switches survival strategy over its
> lifetime.
>
> A Primary Hemiepiphyte such as a Fig tree begins life as a canopy
> epiphyte. After a few years having accumulated sufficient reserves, it
> sends a root abruptly down to earth. Once a connection has been established
> the plant can now reach a huge size by sending down more roots. In
> ‘Strangler Figs’ the roots remain plastered against the trunk of the host
> tree and may coalesce to form a cramped basket around the trunk ultimately
> crushing it to death. The tree corpse then rots and falls away and the
> strangler then continues to grow as a regular tree.
>
> In Secondary Hemiepiphytes such as Philodendrons and Monstera- they start
> at ground level as vines and then work their way up into the canopy.
> Eventually the vine’s terrestrial roots become superfluous and its stem
> dies at the tree base and the plant continues its life as an epiphyte.
>
>With regards,
>
>  Neil Soares.
>
>  **
>
>   April 2008.*
> ***
>
> ** **
>
> Hi Mr Garg, Sibdas and Dr. Barve,
>
> In the tropical rain forests, strangler figs start their lives as
> epiphytes in the canopy approximately 200 feet above the ground. [Our
> specimens in the Indian sub-continent are dwarfed by their tropical
> counterparts.] Once it has established itself it sends a root abruptly down
> to earth. Soon more roots are sent down the trunk of the support tree,
> plastered against its trunk. In extreme forms of stranglers the roots
> coalesce to form a cramped basket around the tree trunk. Then as the tree
> attempts to grow they crush it to death. The strangler also affects the
> support tree by overshadowing it with its dense foliage thereby interfering
> with its photosynthesis and competing with its roots for nutrients and
> water.
>
>   The strangler fig impedes expansion of the tree which is absolutely
> necessary for the trees survival as in the trunk new vessels must
> periodically replace dying ones. If rings of vessels cannot be added by
> increasing trunk girth, nutrients and water cease to flow.
>
>   This is why strangler figs seldom kill palm trees as palms have
> thick, hard barks and do not need to grow in diameter to replace their
> vessels.
>
>The Pipal tree seems especially malicious. Starting as an
> epiphyte, it drives roots into the host, literally tearing it apart. The
> tree corpse, cradled in the arms of its slayer then rots and falls away.**
> **
>
> At my farm at Shahapur [near Bombay], I have an old
> Banyan tree that started life as a strangler as evidenced by the void left
> behind where the supporting tree once stood.
>
> [Have not been able to establish the identity of the original tree though].
> 
>
>Am sending a few photographs as attachments.
>
>   With regards,
>
>   Neil Soares.
>
> **
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On *Fri, 4/20/12, surajit koley *wrote:
>
>
> From: surajit koley 
> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:114018] Quiz : which Ficus is this? from
> Hooghly
> To: "Neil Soares" 
> Cc: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 11:26 PM
>
>  Thank you Sir for the info... an interesting short discussion here -
> http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/57823/
>
> Regards,
>
> Surajit
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Neil Soares 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
>   Hi,
>  This is possibly Ficus rumphii and it is not cohabiting but strangling
> the Wild Date Palm tree. Please refer to my mails on 'Strangler Fig trees'
>  With regards,
>Neil Soares.
>
> --- On *Fri, 4/20/12, surajit koley 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com>
> >* wrote:
>
>
> From: surajit koley 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com>
> >
> Subject: [efloraofindia:114018] Quiz : which Ficus is this? from Hooghly
> To: 
> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com

Re: [efloraofindia:114034] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2

2012-04-20 Thread Pankaj Oudhia
"Glands absent."

Flora of Madhya Pradesh by BSI confirms the quote of Vijayashankar ji.

regards

Pankaj Oudhia

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Vijayasankar wrote:

> Pl don't worry Satish ji. Surajit ji can't do that :) beacuse T. bellirica
> is perhaps the only species (in India at least) that do not have foliar
> glands. Sorry to disappoint you :)
> However, the posted pictures are of *Terminalia bellirica* as identified
> by Dr. Neil. We have observed variations in the size and shape of leaves as
> well as fruits in this species.
>
> Regards
>
> Vijayasankar Raman
> National Center for Natural Products Research
> University of Mississippi
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Satish Phadke wrote:
>
>> Surajit ji
>> May I request you one thing. Try to capture the glands at the base of
>> mature leaf. I am sure you will do that.
>> Unfortunately I don't have good photograph of these.
>> I recently learnt that every Terminalia has unique gland structure. Why
>> not have good photographs of each?
>> This request is even to other members.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley <
>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Neil Sir & Pankaj Sir,
>>>
>>> Good evening...
>>>
>>> I am now convinced that the plant/tree is *T. bellirica* as have been
>>> identified by you. Initially i was hesitant because -
>>>
>>> 1) because of the description of 2.15 cm long leaf-stalk as in -
>>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html
>>>
>>> 2) in my images all leaves originate from the apex of the shoot, whereas
>>> your imges at - http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999&res=640and 
>>> at -
>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Terminalia$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/3xFtSa7jWFo/rq4suJX2k-IJ
>>> show alternate leaves. Most other images available in the net also tally
>>> with both of you.
>>>
>>> However, after more search found my target at -
>>> http://ayurvedaelements.com/resources/spice/Terminalia%20belerica.png?timestamp=1266630963601.
>>>  Moreover, wiki says, "Two varieties of
>>> *T. belerica* are found in India..." -
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_bellirica.
>>>
>>> Thank you very much for giving me your valuable time and identifying
>>> this tree. I cannot express my gratitude in terms of words only.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Surajit
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Neil Soares wrote:
>>>
 Nice photograph Dr. Oudhia. To view my photograph please type '
 Terminalia bellirica Neil Soares' in the Mail Search box above and check my
 mail dated 15th April 2011.
   With regards,
 Neil Soares.

 --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, Pankaj Oudhia * wrote:


 From: Pankaj Oudhia 
 Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113771] roadside tree ID from Hooghly
 19-04-12 SK-2
 To: "Neil Soares" 
 Cc: "surajit koley" , "Tanay Bose" <
 tanaybos...@gmail.com>, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
 Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 12:04 PM

 My picture of Baheda (Terminalia bellirica) for comparison

 http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999&res=640

 regards

 Pankaj Oudhia

 On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Neil Soares 
 http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>
 > wrote:

   Hi,
  Have many of these trees on my property at Shahpur. Please also check
 my photographs of this which are in the archives of this group.
With regards,
 Neil Soares.

 --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, surajit koley 
 http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com>
 >* wrote:


 From: surajit koley 
 http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com>
 >
 Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113745] roadside tree ID from Hooghly
 19-04-12 SK-2
 To: "Neil Soares" 
 http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>
 >
 Cc: "Tanay Bose" 
 http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tanaybos...@gmail.com>>,
 indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
 Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 8:33 AM


 Good morning Sir and thank you.

 But the leaf stalk is much longer in my post than this description
 "Leaves are 8-20 cm long, 7.5-15 cm wide, on stalks 2.15 cm long" at
 http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html.

 Have a nice day Sir

 Regards,

 Surajit


 On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Neil Soares 
 http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>
 > wrote:

   Hi,
  This looks like Beheda [Terminalia bellirica].
With regards,
  Neil Soares.






>>>
>>

Re: [efloraofindia:114033] Book Chapter

2012-04-20 Thread Neil Soares
Brilliant Dr. Giby. How does one buy a copy of this book ?
  With regards,
    Neil Soares.

--- On Fri, 4/20/12, Giby Kuriakose  wrote:


From: Giby Kuriakose 
Subject: [efloraofindia:113972] Book Chapter
To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 9:00 PM





Dear All,



I am very glad to share with you a good news that the canopy research work that 
I have done in Kalakkad Mundanthurai Tiger Reserve, Tamil Nadu has been 
published as a chapter entitled "Mistletoes in the Wet Forest Canopies: Friends 
or Foes" (Giby Kuriakose, R. Ganesan and M. Soubadra Devi) in "Forest Canopies 
of South Asia-a glimpse" edited by M Soubadra Devi, T. Ganesh and Amrita 
Tripathy (2012) published by ATREE, Bangalore. 
It is not a highly technical research publication. 
Please find attached herewith the cover page and contents of the book. 


I thank all of you for the constant support that encourages me a lot for such 
productive works. 




Thanks and regards,
Giby








Re: [efloraofindia:114032] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2

2012-04-20 Thread surajit koley
Okay Sir, i will try to check if my tree also features those.
Regards,
surajit

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Neil Soares wrote:

> Hi,
>  That's what I was given to understand though I found no mention of it in
> any reference books.
>   Regards,
>Neil Soares.
>
>
> --- On *Fri, 4/20/12, surajit koley *wrote:
>
>
> From: surajit koley 
> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113980] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12
> SK-2
> To: "Neil Soares" 
> Cc: "Vijayasankar" , "Satish Phadke" <
> drsmpha...@gmail.com>, "Pankaj Oudhia" ,
> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 11:13 PM
>
>  I beg your pardon, Sir, do you mean those rusty dots on the blades are
> glands?
>
> Regards,
>
> surajit
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Neil Soares 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
>   Hi,
>  Please check this link :
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vFs7Q33sU18KquK2YLkGesQdIR15hes2qnlxNM3jqys/edit
>
>  With regards,
>Neil Soares.
>
> --- On *Fri, 4/20/12, surajit koley 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com>
> >* wrote:
>
>
> From: surajit koley 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com>
> >
> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113980] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12
> SK-2
> To: "Vijayasankar" 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vijay.botan...@gmail.com>
> >
> Cc: "Satish Phadke" 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drsmpha...@gmail.com>>,
> "Neil Soares" 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>>,
> "Pankaj Oudhia" 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pankajoud...@gmail.com>>,
> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 10:02 PM
>
>  Thank you Sir... you have saved me from revisiting *T. bellirica* :) But
> it raises my curiosity more...!
>
> Regards,
>
> surajit
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Vijayasankar 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vijay.botan...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> Pl don't worry Satish ji. Surajit ji can't do that :) beacuse T. bellirica
> is perhaps the only species (in India at least) that do not have foliar
> glands. Sorry to disappoint you :)
> However, the posted pictures are of *Terminalia bellirica* as identified
> by Dr. Neil. We have observed variations in the size and shape of leaves as
> well as fruits in this species.
>
> Regards
>
> Vijayasankar Raman
> National Center for Natural Products Research
> University of Mississippi
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Satish Phadke 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drsmpha...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> Surajit ji
> May I request you one thing. Try to capture the glands at the base of
> mature leaf. I am sure you will do that.
> Unfortunately I don't have good photograph of these.
> I recently learnt that every Terminalia has unique gland structure. Why
> not have good photographs of each?
> This request is even to other members.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley <
> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> Dear Neil Sir & Pankaj Sir,
>
> Good evening...
>
> I am now convinced that the plant/tree is *T. bellirica* as have been
> identified by you. Initially i was hesitant because -
>
> 1) because of the description of 2.15 cm long leaf-stalk as in -
> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html
>
> 2) in my images all leaves originate from the apex of the shoot, whereas
> your imges at - http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999&res=640and 
> at -
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Terminalia$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/3xFtSa7jWFo/rq4suJX2k-IJ
> show alternate leaves. Most other images available in the net also tally
> with both of you.
>
> However, after more search found my target at -
> http://ayurvedaelements.com/resources/spice/Terminalia%20belerica.png?timestamp=1266630963601.
>  Moreover, wiki says, "Two varieties of
> *T. belerica* are found in India..." -
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_bellirica.
>
> Thank you very much for giving me your valuable time and identifying this
> tree. I cannot express my gratitude in terms of words only.
>
> Regards,
>
> Surajit
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Neil Soares 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
>   Nice photograph Dr. Oudhia. To view my photograph please type '
> Terminalia bellirica Neil Soares' in the Mail Search box above and check my
> mail dated 15th April 2011.
>   With regards,
> Neil Soares.
>
> --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, Pankaj Oudhia 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pankajoud...@gmail.com

Re: [efloraofindia:114031] Quiz : which Ficus is this? from Hooghly

2012-04-20 Thread Neil Soares
Hi,
 Am reproducing here some of my previous correspondence on this :
 
   25th July 2008
 
Hi,
  Most Fig trees belong to a group called Primary Hemiepiphytes.
A Parasite taps into the vascular system of the host plant for water and 
nutrients.
An Epiphyte only takes support on the host tree while drawing water and 
nutrients from wherever they can get them.
A Hemiepiphyte, by definition, switches survival strategy over its lifetime.
A Primary Hemiepiphyte such as a Fig tree begins life as a canopy epiphyte. 
After a few years having accumulated sufficient reserves, it sends a root 
abruptly down to earth. Once a connection has been established the plant can 
now reach a huge size by sending down more roots. In ‘Strangler Figs’ the roots 
remain plastered against the trunk of the host tree and may coalesce to form a 
cramped basket around the trunk ultimately crushing it to death. The tree 
corpse then rots and falls away and the strangler then continues to grow as a 
regular tree.
In Secondary Hemiepiphytes such as Philodendrons and Monstera- they start at 
ground level as vines and then work their way up into the canopy. Eventually 
the vine’s terrestrial roots become superfluous and its stem dies at the tree 
base and the plant continues its life as an epiphyte.
   With regards,
 Neil Soares.
 
  April 2008.
 
Hi Mr Garg, Sibdas and Dr. Barve,
    In the tropical rain forests, strangler figs start their lives as 
epiphytes in the canopy approximately 200 feet above the ground. [Our specimens 
in the Indian sub-continent are dwarfed by their tropical counterparts.] Once 
it has established itself it sends a root abruptly down to earth. Soon more 
roots are sent down the trunk of the support tree, plastered against its trunk. 
In extreme forms of stranglers the roots coalesce to form a cramped basket 
around the tree trunk. Then as the tree attempts to grow they crush it to 
death. The strangler also affects the support tree by overshadowing it with its 
dense foliage thereby interfering with its photosynthesis and competing with 
its roots for nutrients and water.
  The strangler fig impedes expansion of the tree which is absolutely 
necessary for the trees survival as in the trunk new vessels must periodically 
replace dying ones. If rings of vessels cannot be added by increasing trunk 
girth, nutrients and water cease to flow.
  This is why strangler figs seldom kill palm trees as palms have thick, 
hard barks and do not need to grow in diameter to replace their vessels.
   The Pipal tree seems especially malicious. Starting as an epiphyte, it 
drives roots into the host, literally tearing it apart. The tree corpse, 
cradled in the arms of its slayer then rots and falls away.
    At my farm at Shahapur [near Bombay], I have an old Banyan tree that 
started life as a strangler as evidenced by the void left behind where the 
supporting tree once stood.
[Have not been able to establish the identity of the original tree though].
   Am sending a few photographs as attachments.
  With regards,
  Neil Soares.
 


--- On Fri, 4/20/12, surajit koley  wrote:


From: surajit koley 
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:114018] Quiz : which Ficus is this? from Hooghly
To: "Neil Soares" 
Cc: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 11:26 PM



Thank you Sir for the info... an interesting short discussion here - 
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/57823/
 
Regards,
 
Surajit


On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Neil Soares  wrote:






Hi,
 This is possibly Ficus rumphii and it is not cohabiting but strangling the 
Wild Date Palm tree. Please refer to my mails on 'Strangler Fig trees'
 With regards,
   Neil Soares.

--- On Fri, 4/20/12, surajit koley  wrote:


From: surajit koley 
Subject: [efloraofindia:114018] Quiz : which Ficus is this? from Hooghly
To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 10:59 PM



Sir,
 
I have exhausted my daily quota that's why this quiz!
 
Species : Likely to be Ficus infectoria Roxb.
Habit & Habitat : tree, wild, cohabiting Phoenix sp.
Date : 20-04-12, 3.40 p.m. & 14-02-12, 4.20 p.m.
Place : Hooghly, WB
 

(the trunk in the centre is of Anona reticulata, NOT Ficus)
 
 

 
 

 
 
 
 
two months ago...
 
 
 
 
 
Thank you & Regards,
 
Surajit Koley
 






Re: [efloraofindia:114030] Quiz : which Ficus is this? from Hooghly

2012-04-20 Thread surajit koley
Thank you Sir for the info... an interesting short discussion here -
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/57823/

Regards,

Surajit

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Neil Soares wrote:

> Hi,
>  This is possibly Ficus rumphii and it is not cohabiting but strangling
> the Wild Date Palm tree. Please refer to my mails on 'Strangler Fig trees'
>  With regards,
>Neil Soares.
>
> --- On *Fri, 4/20/12, surajit koley *wrote:
>
>
> From: surajit koley 
> Subject: [efloraofindia:114018] Quiz : which Ficus is this? from Hooghly
> To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 10:59 PM
>
>  Sir,
>
> I have exhausted my daily quota that's why this quiz!
>
> Species : Likely to be *Ficus* *infectoria* Roxb.
> Habit & Habitat : tree, wild, cohabiting *Phoenix* sp.
> Date : 20-04-12, 3.40 p.m. & 14-02-12, 4.20 p.m.
> Place : Hooghly, WB
>
> 
> (the trunk in the centre is of *Anona* *reticulata*, *NOT* *Ficus*)
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
> 
>
>
>
>
> *two months ago...*
>
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> Thank you & Regards,
>
> Surajit Koley
>
>
>


Re: [efloraofindia:114029] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2

2012-04-20 Thread Vijayasankar
Thanks Dr. Neil. So far I have not seen glands in T. bellirica, so, I would
be happy to see them. Even though I could not see the glands clearly in the
picture, I believe in your own observation. However, Cooke in his Flora of
Bombay Presidency has mentioned that this species has no glands (I am
sharing the scanned image of the particular page, may be in a separate
mail). The dots on the leaf are not glands, I think.


Regards

Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi


On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Neil Soares wrote:

> Hi,
>  Please check this link :
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vFs7Q33sU18KquK2YLkGesQdIR15hes2qnlxNM3jqys/edit
>
>  With regards,
>Neil Soares.
>
>
> --- On *Fri, 4/20/12, surajit koley *wrote:
>
>
> From: surajit koley 
>
> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113980] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12
> SK-2
> To: "Vijayasankar" 
> Cc: "Satish Phadke" , "Neil Soares" <
> drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>, "Pankaj Oudhia" ,
> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 10:02 PM
>
>  Thank you Sir... you have saved me from revisiting *T. bellirica* :) But
> it raises my curiosity more...!
>
> Regards,
>
> surajit
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Vijayasankar 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vijay.botan...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> Pl don't worry Satish ji. Surajit ji can't do that :) beacuse T. bellirica
> is perhaps the only species (in India at least) that do not have foliar
> glands. Sorry to disappoint you :)
> However, the posted pictures are of *Terminalia bellirica* as identified
> by Dr. Neil. We have observed variations in the size and shape of leaves as
> well as fruits in this species.
>
> Regards
>
> Vijayasankar Raman
> National Center for Natural Products Research
> University of Mississippi
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Satish Phadke 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drsmpha...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> Surajit ji
> May I request you one thing. Try to capture the glands at the base of
> mature leaf. I am sure you will do that.
> Unfortunately I don't have good photograph of these.
> I recently learnt that every Terminalia has unique gland structure. Why
> not have good photographs of each?
> This request is even to other members.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley <
> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> Dear Neil Sir & Pankaj Sir,
>
> Good evening...
>
> I am now convinced that the plant/tree is *T. bellirica* as have been
> identified by you. Initially i was hesitant because -
>
> 1) because of the description of 2.15 cm long leaf-stalk as in -
> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html
>
> 2) in my images all leaves originate from the apex of the shoot, whereas
> your imges at - http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999&res=640and 
> at -
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Terminalia$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/3xFtSa7jWFo/rq4suJX2k-IJ
> show alternate leaves. Most other images available in the net also tally
> with both of you.
>
> However, after more search found my target at -
> http://ayurvedaelements.com/resources/spice/Terminalia%20belerica.png?timestamp=1266630963601.
>  Moreover, wiki says, "Two varieties of
> *T. belerica* are found in India..." -
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_bellirica.
>
> Thank you very much for giving me your valuable time and identifying this
> tree. I cannot express my gratitude in terms of words only.
>
> Regards,
>
> Surajit
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Neil Soares 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
>   Nice photograph Dr. Oudhia. To view my photograph please type '
> Terminalia bellirica Neil Soares' in the Mail Search box above and check my
> mail dated 15th April 2011.
>   With regards,
> Neil Soares.
>
> --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, Pankaj Oudhia 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pankajoud...@gmail.com>
> >* wrote:
>
>
> From: Pankaj Oudhia 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pankajoud...@gmail.com>
> >
> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113771] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12
> SK-2
> To: "Neil Soares" 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>
> >
> Cc: "surajit koley" 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com>>,
> "Tanay Bose" 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tanaybos...@gmail.com>>,
> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 12:04 PM
>
> My picture of Baheda (Terminalia bellirica) for comparison
>
> http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999&res=640
>
> regards
>
> Pankaj Oudhia
>
> On Thu, Apr

Re: [efloraofindia:114028] Terminalia bellirica page from FPB (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)

2012-04-20 Thread Neil Soares
That's fair enough Dr. Vijayasankar, but please take another look at the 
photograph.
  With regards,
    Neil Soares.

--- On Fri, 4/20/12, Vijayasankar Raman (Google Docs) 
 wrote:


From: Vijayasankar Raman (Google Docs) 
Subject: [efloraofindia:114027] Terminalia bellirica page from FPB 
(indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)
To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 11:21 PM










I've shared Terminalia bellirica page from FPB
Click to open: 

Terminalia bellirica page from FPB



Terminalia belli(e)rica page from Cooke’s Flora of Presidency of Bombay_Vol. 1
(line 8 in the description para).


Google Docs makes it easy to create, store and share online documents, 
spreadsheets and presentations. 


[efloraofindia:114027] Terminalia bellirica page from FPB (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)

2012-04-20 Thread Vijayasankar Raman (Google Docs)

I've shared an item with you:

Terminalia bellirica page from FPB
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dpgVclesA4TroBoOy1jaCFx6vq3Y9C5xAfAIRx_gEBA/edit

It's not an attachment -- it's stored online at Google Docs. To open this  
document, just click the link above.




Re: [efloraofindia:114026] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2

2012-04-20 Thread Neil Soares
Hi,
 That's what I was given to understand though I found no mention of it in any 
reference books.
  Regards,
   Neil Soares.
 

--- On Fri, 4/20/12, surajit koley  wrote:


From: surajit koley 
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113980] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2
To: "Neil Soares" 
Cc: "Vijayasankar" , "Satish Phadke" 
, "Pankaj Oudhia" , 
indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 11:13 PM



I beg your pardon, Sir, do you mean those rusty dots on the blades are glands?
 
Regards,
 
surajit


On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Neil Soares  wrote:






Hi,
 Please check this link :
 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vFs7Q33sU18KquK2YLkGesQdIR15hes2qnlxNM3jqys/edit
 
 With regards,
   Neil Soares.

--- On Fri, 4/20/12, surajit koley  wrote:


From: surajit koley 
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113980] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2
To: "Vijayasankar" 
Cc: "Satish Phadke" , "Neil Soares" 
, "Pankaj Oudhia" , 
indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 10:02 PM



Thank you Sir... you have saved me from revisiting T. bellirica :) But it 
raises my curiosity more...!
 
Regards,
 
surajit


On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Vijayasankar  wrote:

Pl don't worry Satish ji. Surajit ji can't do that :) beacuse T. bellirica is 
perhaps the only species (in India at least) that do not have foliar glands. 
Sorry to disappoint you :)
However, the posted pictures are of Terminalia bellirica as identified by Dr. 
Neil. We have observed variations in the size and shape of leaves as well as 
fruits in this species.

 
Regards  
 Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi



On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Satish Phadke  wrote:


Surajit ji
May I request you one thing. Try to capture the glands at the base of mature 
leaf. I am sure you will do that.
Unfortunately I don't have good photograph of these.
I recently learnt that every Terminalia has unique gland structure. Why not 
have good photographs of each?
This request is even to other members. 





On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley  
wrote:


Dear Neil Sir & Pankaj Sir,
 
Good evening...
 
I am now convinced that the plant/tree is T. bellirica as have been identified 
by you. Initially i was hesitant because -
 
1) because of the description of 2.15 cm long leaf-stalk as in - 
http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html
 
2) in my images all leaves originate from the apex of the shoot, whereas your 
imges at - http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999&res=640 and at - 
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Terminalia$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/3xFtSa7jWFo/rq4suJX2k-IJ 
 show alternate leaves. Most other images available in the net also tally with 
both of you.
 
However, after more search found my target at - 
http://ayurvedaelements.com/resources/spice/Terminalia%20belerica.png?timestamp=1266630963601
 . Moreover, wiki says, "Two varieties of T. belerica are found in India..." - 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_bellirica.
 
Thank you very much for giving me your valuable time and identifying this tree. 
I cannot express my gratitude in terms of words only.
 
Regards,
 
Surajit


 


 
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Neil Soares  wrote:






Nice photograph Dr. Oudhia. To view my photograph please type ' Terminalia 
bellirica Neil Soares' in the Mail Search box above and check my mail dated 
15th April 2011.
  With regards,
    Neil Soares.

--- On Thu, 4/19/12, Pankaj Oudhia  wrote:


From: Pankaj Oudhia 
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113771] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2
To: "Neil Soares" 
Cc: "surajit koley" , "Tanay Bose" 
, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 12:04 PM


My picture of Baheda (Terminalia bellirica) for comparison  


http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999&res=640 


regards


Pankaj Oudhia


On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Neil Soares  wrote:






Hi,
 Have many of these trees on my property at Shahpur. Please also check my 
photographs of this which are in the archives of this group.

  With regards,
    Neil Soares.

--- On Thu, 4/19/12, surajit koley  wrote:



From: surajit koley 
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113745] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2
To: "Neil Soares" 
Cc: "Tanay Bose" , indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 8:33 AM 




Good morning Sir and thank you. 


But the leaf stalk is much longer in my post than this description "Leaves are 
8-20 cm long, 7.5-15 cm wide, on stalks 2.15 cm long" 
at http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html.


Have a nice day Sir


Regards,


Surajit




On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Neil Soares  wrote:






Hi,
 This looks like Beheda [Terminalia bellirica].
   With 

Re: [efloraofindia:114024] Requesting id 20042012 ASP 05

2012-04-20 Thread Neil Soares
Hi,
 This could be a species of Hypoxis.
   With regards,
 Neil Soares.

--- On Fri, 4/20/12, shivaprakash adavanne  wrote:


From: shivaprakash adavanne 
Subject: [efloraofindia:114016] Requesting id 20042012 ASP 05
To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 10:38 PM


Dear friends,

Sub: Requesting id 20042012 ASP 05
Here are photos of flowering plant from Srinagar, J & K photographed during 
third week of March. Requesting id.

Regards

A.Shivaprakash 

Re: [efloraofindia:114023] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2

2012-04-20 Thread surajit koley
I beg your pardon, Sir, do you mean those rusty dots on the blades are
glands?

Regards,

surajit

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Neil Soares wrote:

> Hi,
>  Please check this link :
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vFs7Q33sU18KquK2YLkGesQdIR15hes2qnlxNM3jqys/edit
>
>  With regards,
>Neil Soares.
>
> --- On *Fri, 4/20/12, surajit koley *wrote:
>
>
> From: surajit koley 
> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113980] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12
> SK-2
> To: "Vijayasankar" 
> Cc: "Satish Phadke" , "Neil Soares" <
> drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>, "Pankaj Oudhia" ,
> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 10:02 PM
>
>  Thank you Sir... you have saved me from revisiting *T. bellirica* :) But
> it raises my curiosity more...!
>
> Regards,
>
> surajit
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Vijayasankar 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vijay.botan...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> Pl don't worry Satish ji. Surajit ji can't do that :) beacuse T. bellirica
> is perhaps the only species (in India at least) that do not have foliar
> glands. Sorry to disappoint you :)
> However, the posted pictures are of *Terminalia bellirica* as identified
> by Dr. Neil. We have observed variations in the size and shape of leaves as
> well as fruits in this species.
>
> Regards
>
> Vijayasankar Raman
> National Center for Natural Products Research
> University of Mississippi
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Satish Phadke 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drsmpha...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> Surajit ji
> May I request you one thing. Try to capture the glands at the base of
> mature leaf. I am sure you will do that.
> Unfortunately I don't have good photograph of these.
> I recently learnt that every Terminalia has unique gland structure. Why
> not have good photographs of each?
> This request is even to other members.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley <
> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> Dear Neil Sir & Pankaj Sir,
>
> Good evening...
>
> I am now convinced that the plant/tree is *T. bellirica* as have been
> identified by you. Initially i was hesitant because -
>
> 1) because of the description of 2.15 cm long leaf-stalk as in -
> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html
>
> 2) in my images all leaves originate from the apex of the shoot, whereas
> your imges at - http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999&res=640and 
> at -
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Terminalia$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/3xFtSa7jWFo/rq4suJX2k-IJ
> show alternate leaves. Most other images available in the net also tally
> with both of you.
>
> However, after more search found my target at -
> http://ayurvedaelements.com/resources/spice/Terminalia%20belerica.png?timestamp=1266630963601.
>  Moreover, wiki says, "Two varieties of
> *T. belerica* are found in India..." -
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_bellirica.
>
> Thank you very much for giving me your valuable time and identifying this
> tree. I cannot express my gratitude in terms of words only.
>
> Regards,
>
> Surajit
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Neil Soares 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
>   Nice photograph Dr. Oudhia. To view my photograph please type '
> Terminalia bellirica Neil Soares' in the Mail Search box above and check my
> mail dated 15th April 2011.
>   With regards,
> Neil Soares.
>
> --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, Pankaj Oudhia 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pankajoud...@gmail.com>
> >* wrote:
>
>
> From: Pankaj Oudhia 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pankajoud...@gmail.com>
> >
> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113771] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12
> SK-2
> To: "Neil Soares" 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>
> >
> Cc: "surajit koley" 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com>>,
> "Tanay Bose" 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tanaybos...@gmail.com>>,
> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 12:04 PM
>
> My picture of Baheda (Terminalia bellirica) for comparison
>
> http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999&res=640
>
> regards
>
> Pankaj Oudhia
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Neil Soares 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
>   Hi,
>  Have many of these trees on my property at Shahpur. Please also check my
> photographs of this which are in the archives of this group.
>With regards,
> Neil Soares.
>
> --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, surajit koley 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=suraji

Re: [efloraofindia:114022] Quiz : which Ficus is this? from Hooghly

2012-04-20 Thread Neil Soares
Hi,
 This is possibly Ficus rumphii and it is not cohabiting but strangling the 
Wild Date Palm tree. Please refer to my mails on 'Strangler Fig trees'
 With regards,
   Neil Soares.

--- On Fri, 4/20/12, surajit koley  wrote:


From: surajit koley 
Subject: [efloraofindia:114018] Quiz : which Ficus is this? from Hooghly
To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 10:59 PM



Sir,
 
I have exhausted my daily quota that's why this quiz!
 
Species : Likely to be Ficus infectoria Roxb.
Habit & Habitat : tree, wild, cohabiting Phoenix sp.
Date : 20-04-12, 3.40 p.m. & 14-02-12, 4.20 p.m.
Place : Hooghly, WB
 

(the trunk in the centre is of Anona reticulata, NOT Ficus)
 
 




 
 
 
 
two months ago...
 


 
 
Thank you & Regards,
 
Surajit Koley
 

Re: [efloraofindia:114022] Trees in Summer #1 of 15 | Alangium salviifolium

2012-04-20 Thread padirag
On the bund at the Vedanthangal Bird Sanctuary near Chennai, the trees are 
tall, over 30 feet at least. About a month ago,  they were full of fllowers 
and fruit. Villagers told us that the fruit , which were green then, were 
edible when purple and ripe.
Rgds,
Padmini Raghavan.
 
 
 
 

 


[efloraofindia:114021] Re: The Spiranthes Connection!!

2012-04-20 Thread Alok Mahendroo








Hi Pankaj ji,
A Spiranthes Sinensis from Kalatope... you're right it is hairy... and as 
Giby ji asked... what are the other differences...
Thanks for sharing...
regards
Alok



On Thursday, 19 April 2012 14:20:16 UTC+5:30, Dr Pankaj Kumar wrote:
>
> Just wanted to share.
> This, Spiranthes issue was raised by Sid and his PhD supervisor here at HK 
> and very interestingly, just few days before meeting Prof. Sun and 
> discussing with Sid, the plant flowered here in our green house. I asked 
> Dr. Stephan Gale (my colleague and author of Wild Orchids of Hong Kong) 
> whats the difference and he said sinensis is glabrous and hongkongensis is 
> hairy. So all these created some big doubts in my head as I knew very well 
> that Indian ones are not glabrous at all. Lets hope to come to some 
> conclusion soon. My preliminary doubts say that S. australis should be 
> accepted name with hongkongensis as one of the synonyms, but Prof. Sun says 
> they all are different.
> Pankaj
>
> -- 
> **
> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!"
>
>
> Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D.
> Conservation Officer
>
> Office:
> Orchid Conservation Section
> Flora Conservation Department
> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation
> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong.
>
> Residence: 
> 36C, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun 
> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong.
>
> email: pku...@kbfg.org; sahanipan...@gmail.com; 
> pankajsah...@rediffmail.com
> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251 
> (mobile). Fax: +852 2483 7194
>  


Re: [efloraofindia:114019] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2

2012-04-20 Thread Neil Soares
Hi,
 Please check this link :
 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vFs7Q33sU18KquK2YLkGesQdIR15hes2qnlxNM3jqys/edit
 
 With regards,
   Neil Soares.

--- On Fri, 4/20/12, surajit koley  wrote:


From: surajit koley 
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113980] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2
To: "Vijayasankar" 
Cc: "Satish Phadke" , "Neil Soares" 
, "Pankaj Oudhia" , 
indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 10:02 PM



Thank you Sir... you have saved me from revisiting T. bellirica :) But it 
raises my curiosity more...!
 
Regards,
 
surajit


On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Vijayasankar  wrote:

Pl don't worry Satish ji. Surajit ji can't do that :) beacuse T. bellirica is 
perhaps the only species (in India at least) that do not have foliar glands. 
Sorry to disappoint you :)
However, the posted pictures are of Terminalia bellirica as identified by Dr. 
Neil. We have observed variations in the size and shape of leaves as well as 
fruits in this species.

 
Regards  
 Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi



On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Satish Phadke  wrote:


Surajit ji
May I request you one thing. Try to capture the glands at the base of mature 
leaf. I am sure you will do that.
Unfortunately I don't have good photograph of these.
I recently learnt that every Terminalia has unique gland structure. Why not 
have good photographs of each?
This request is even to other members.





On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley  
wrote:


Dear Neil Sir & Pankaj Sir,
 
Good evening...
 
I am now convinced that the plant/tree is T. bellirica as have been identified 
by you. Initially i was hesitant because -
 
1) because of the description of 2.15 cm long leaf-stalk as in - 
http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html
 
2) in my images all leaves originate from the apex of the shoot, whereas your 
imges at - http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999&res=640 and at - 
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Terminalia$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/3xFtSa7jWFo/rq4suJX2k-IJ 
 show alternate leaves. Most other images available in the net also tally with 
both of you.
 
However, after more search found my target at - 
http://ayurvedaelements.com/resources/spice/Terminalia%20belerica.png?timestamp=1266630963601
 . Moreover, wiki says, "Two varieties of T. belerica are found in India..." - 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_bellirica.
 
Thank you very much for giving me your valuable time and identifying this tree. 
I cannot express my gratitude in terms of words only.
 
Regards,
 
Surajit


 


 
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Neil Soares  wrote:






Nice photograph Dr. Oudhia. To view my photograph please type ' Terminalia 
bellirica Neil Soares' in the Mail Search box above and check my mail dated 
15th April 2011.
  With regards,
    Neil Soares.

--- On Thu, 4/19/12, Pankaj Oudhia  wrote:


From: Pankaj Oudhia 
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113771] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2
To: "Neil Soares" 
Cc: "surajit koley" , "Tanay Bose" 
, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 12:04 PM


My picture of Baheda (Terminalia bellirica) for comparison  


http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999&res=640 


regards


Pankaj Oudhia


On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Neil Soares  wrote:






Hi,
 Have many of these trees on my property at Shahpur. Please also check my 
photographs of this which are in the archives of this group.

  With regards,
    Neil Soares.

--- On Thu, 4/19/12, surajit koley  wrote:



From: surajit koley 
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113745] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2
To: "Neil Soares" 
Cc: "Tanay Bose" , indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 8:33 AM 




Good morning Sir and thank you. 


But the leaf stalk is much longer in my post than this description "Leaves are 
8-20 cm long, 7.5-15 cm wide, on stalks 2.15 cm long" 
at http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html.


Have a nice day Sir


Regards,


Surajit




On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Neil Soares  wrote:






Hi,
 This looks like Beheda [Terminalia bellirica].
   With regards,
 Neil Soares.






  


-- 
Dr Satish Phadke




Re: [efloraofindia:114018] Requesting id 20042012 ASP 03 (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)

2012-04-20 Thread Vijayasankar
This is 'daffodil', Narcissus sp.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Narcissus_pseudonarcissus_%28daffodills%29_-_1.jpg

Regards

Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi


On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:22 AM, shivaprakash adavanne (Google Docs) <
adava...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  [image: Document] I've shared Requesting id 20042012 ASP 
> 03
>  Click to open:
>
>- Requesting id 20042012 ASP 
> 03
>
>
> Google Docs makes it easy to create, store and share online documents,
> spreadsheets and presentations.
> [image: Logo for Google Docs] 
>


[efloraofindia:114018] Quiz : which Ficus is this? from Hooghly

2012-04-20 Thread surajit koley
Sir,
 
I have exhausted my daily quota that's why this quiz!
 
Species : Likely to be *Ficus* *infectoria* Roxb.
Habit & Habitat : tree, wild, cohabiting *Phoenix* sp.
Date : 20-04-12, 3.40 p.m. & 14-02-12, 4.20 p.m.
Place : Hooghly, WB
 

(the trunk in the centre is of *Anona* *reticulata*, *NOT* *Ficus*)
 
 







 
 
 
 
*two months ago...*
 




 
 
Thank you & Regards,
 
Surajit Koley
 


[efloraofindia:114016] Requesting id 20042012 ASP 05

2012-04-20 Thread shivaprakash adavanne
Dear friends,

Sub: Requesting id 20042012 ASP 05
Here are photos of flowering plant from Srinagar, J & K photographed during
third week of March. Requesting id.

Regards

A.Shivaprakash


Re: [efloraofindia:114015] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2

2012-04-20 Thread Satish Phadke
It started an interesting brain storming Isn't it.

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Vijayasankar wrote:

> Pl don't worry Satish ji. Surajit ji can't do that :) beacuse T. bellirica
> is perhaps the only species (in India at least) that do not have foliar
> glands. Sorry to disappoint you :)
> However, the posted pictures are of *Terminalia bellirica* as identified
> by Dr. Neil. We have observed variations in the size and shape of leaves as
> well as fruits in this species.
>
> Regards
>
> Vijayasankar Raman
> National Center for Natural Products Research
> University of Mississippi
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Satish Phadke wrote:
>
>> Surajit ji
>> May I request you one thing. Try to capture the glands at the base of
>> mature leaf. I am sure you will do that.
>> Unfortunately I don't have good photograph of these.
>> I recently learnt that every Terminalia has unique gland structure. Why
>> not have good photographs of each?
>> This request is even to other members.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley <
>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Neil Sir & Pankaj Sir,
>>>
>>> Good evening...
>>>
>>> I am now convinced that the plant/tree is *T. bellirica* as have been
>>> identified by you. Initially i was hesitant because -
>>>
>>> 1) because of the description of 2.15 cm long leaf-stalk as in -
>>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html
>>>
>>> 2) in my images all leaves originate from the apex of the shoot, whereas
>>> your imges at - http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999&res=640and 
>>> at -
>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Terminalia$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/3xFtSa7jWFo/rq4suJX2k-IJ
>>> show alternate leaves. Most other images available in the net also tally
>>> with both of you.
>>>
>>> However, after more search found my target at -
>>> http://ayurvedaelements.com/resources/spice/Terminalia%20belerica.png?timestamp=1266630963601.
>>>  Moreover, wiki says, "Two varieties of
>>> *T. belerica* are found in India..." -
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_bellirica.
>>>
>>> Thank you very much for giving me your valuable time and identifying
>>> this tree. I cannot express my gratitude in terms of words only.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Surajit
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Neil Soares wrote:
>>>
 Nice photograph Dr. Oudhia. To view my photograph please type '
 Terminalia bellirica Neil Soares' in the Mail Search box above and check my
 mail dated 15th April 2011.
   With regards,
 Neil Soares.

 --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, Pankaj Oudhia * wrote:


 From: Pankaj Oudhia 
 Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113771] roadside tree ID from Hooghly
 19-04-12 SK-2
 To: "Neil Soares" 
 Cc: "surajit koley" , "Tanay Bose" <
 tanaybos...@gmail.com>, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
 Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 12:04 PM

 My picture of Baheda (Terminalia bellirica) for comparison

 http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999&res=640

 regards

 Pankaj Oudhia

 On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Neil Soares 
 http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>
 > wrote:

   Hi,
  Have many of these trees on my property at Shahpur. Please also check
 my photographs of this which are in the archives of this group.
With regards,
 Neil Soares.

 --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, surajit koley 
 http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com>
 >* wrote:


 From: surajit koley 
 http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com>
 >
 Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113745] roadside tree ID from Hooghly
 19-04-12 SK-2
 To: "Neil Soares" 
 http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>
 >
 Cc: "Tanay Bose" 
 http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tanaybos...@gmail.com>>,
 indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
 Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 8:33 AM


 Good morning Sir and thank you.

 But the leaf stalk is much longer in my post than this description
 "Leaves are 8-20 cm long, 7.5-15 cm wide, on stalks 2.15 cm long" at
 http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html.

 Have a nice day Sir

 Regards,

 Surajit


 On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Neil Soares 
 http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>
 > wrote:

   Hi,
  This looks like Beheda [Terminalia bellirica].
With regards,
  Neil Soares.






>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr Satish Phadke
>>
>
>


-- 
Dr Satish Ph

Re: [efloraofindia:114014] Book Chapter

2012-04-20 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Congrats Giby ji for this publication. Wishing you many more such
achievements.
Coincidentally we shot the common mistletoe Viscum album on our this trip
to Nainital and Almora.

-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/



On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:04 PM, Pankaj Oudhia wrote:

> Congrats. Hoping that you have covered its medicinal utilization aspect as
> Traditional Healers use in their Herbal Formulations.
>
> regards
>
> Pankaj Oudhia
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Giby Kuriakose 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I am very glad to share with you a good news that the canopy research
>> work that I have done in Kalakkad Mundanthurai Tiger Reserve, Tamil Nadu
>> has been published as a chapter entitled "Mistletoes in the Wet Forest
>> Canopies: Friends or Foes" (Giby Kuriakose, R. Ganesan and M. Soubadra
>> Devi) in "Forest Canopies of South Asia-a glimpse" edited by M Soubadra
>> Devi, T. Ganesh and Amrita Tripathy (2012) published by ATREE, Bangalore.
>> It is not a highly technical research publication.
>> Please find attached herewith the cover page and contents of the book.
>>
>> I thank all of you for the constant support that encourages me a lot for
>> such productive works.
>>
>>
>> Thanks and regards,
>> Giby
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>


Re: [efloraofindia:114013] Book Chapter

2012-04-20 Thread Tanay Bose
Congrats Giby ji
Tanay

On 20 April 2012 09:34, Pankaj Oudhia  wrote:

> Congrats. Hoping that you have covered its medicinal utilization aspect as
> Traditional Healers use in their Herbal Formulations.
>
> regards
>
> Pankaj Oudhia
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Giby Kuriakose 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I am very glad to share with you a good news that the canopy research
>> work that I have done in Kalakkad Mundanthurai Tiger Reserve, Tamil Nadu
>> has been published as a chapter entitled "Mistletoes in the Wet Forest
>> Canopies: Friends or Foes" (Giby Kuriakose, R. Ganesan and M. Soubadra
>> Devi) in "Forest Canopies of South Asia-a glimpse" edited by M Soubadra
>> Devi, T. Ganesh and Amrita Tripathy (2012) published by ATREE, Bangalore.
>> It is not a highly technical research publication.
>> Please find attached herewith the cover page and contents of the book.
>>
>> I thank all of you for the constant support that encourages me a lot for
>> such productive works.
>>
>>
>> Thanks and regards,
>> Giby
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
*Tanay Bose*
Research & Teaching Assistant.
Department of Botany.
University of British Columbia .
6270 University Blvd.
Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
  604-822-2019 (Lab)
  604-822-6089  (Fax)
tanay.b...@botany.ubc.ca 
*Webpages:*
UBC Botany , Berbee Lab 
UBC Botany, People 
EfloraofIndia 


Re: [efloraofindia:114012] Book Chapter

2012-04-20 Thread Pankaj Oudhia
Congrats. Hoping that you have covered its medicinal utilization aspect as
Traditional Healers use in their Herbal Formulations.

regards

Pankaj Oudhia

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Giby Kuriakose wrote:

>
> Dear All,
>
> I am very glad to share with you a good news that the canopy research work
> that I have done in Kalakkad Mundanthurai Tiger Reserve, Tamil Nadu has
> been published as a chapter entitled "Mistletoes in the Wet Forest
> Canopies: Friends or Foes" (Giby Kuriakose, R. Ganesan and M. Soubadra
> Devi) in "Forest Canopies of South Asia-a glimpse" edited by M Soubadra
> Devi, T. Ganesh and Amrita Tripathy (2012) published by ATREE, Bangalore.
> It is not a highly technical research publication.
> Please find attached herewith the cover page and contents of the book.
>
> I thank all of you for the constant support that encourages me a lot for
> such productive works.
>
>
> Thanks and regards,
> Giby
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
>


Re: [efloraofindia:114011] seedpod : Oxalis sp. from Hooghly

2012-04-20 Thread surajit koley
Yes, Madam, our DOPATI

Regards,

surajit

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:46 PM, ushadi Micromini  wrote:

> Yes Surajit...
>
> Impatiens  in particular the garden balsam called *Impatiens balsamina is
> our DOPATI...
>
> *usha di *
> ===
> *
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:17 PM, surajit koley <
> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Sir, that *Impatiens* seems to be my DOPATI !
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Surajit
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Gurcharan Singh wrote:
>>
>>> Yes Satish ji
>>> More so in Impatiens (Balsam), later they burst of their own (autochory).
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Satish Phadke wrote:
>>>
 Have you observed the interesting phenonmenon of mature seed pods? When
 you touch the seedpod it  explodes spreading the seeds to far away
 distance.a mechanism of seed pispersal.
  On Apr 20, 2012 7:23 AM, "surajit koley" <
 surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Good morning Sir
> Thank you very much.
>
> Regards,
>
> Surajit
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:16 AM, Gurcharan Singh 
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, nice photographs Surajit ji
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>> Retired  Associate Professor
>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Usha di
> ===
>
>


Re: [efloraofindia:114010] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2

2012-04-20 Thread surajit koley
Thank you Sir... you have saved me from revisiting *T. bellirica* :) But it
raises my curiosity more...!

Regards,

surajit

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Vijayasankar wrote:

> Pl don't worry Satish ji. Surajit ji can't do that :) beacuse T. bellirica
> is perhaps the only species (in India at least) that do not have foliar
> glands. Sorry to disappoint you :)
> However, the posted pictures are of *Terminalia bellirica* as identified
> by Dr. Neil. We have observed variations in the size and shape of leaves as
> well as fruits in this species.
>
> Regards
>
> Vijayasankar Raman
> National Center for Natural Products Research
> University of Mississippi
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Satish Phadke wrote:
>
>> Surajit ji
>> May I request you one thing. Try to capture the glands at the base of
>> mature leaf. I am sure you will do that.
>> Unfortunately I don't have good photograph of these.
>> I recently learnt that every Terminalia has unique gland structure. Why
>> not have good photographs of each?
>> This request is even to other members.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley <
>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Neil Sir & Pankaj Sir,
>>>
>>> Good evening...
>>>
>>> I am now convinced that the plant/tree is *T. bellirica* as have been
>>> identified by you. Initially i was hesitant because -
>>>
>>> 1) because of the description of 2.15 cm long leaf-stalk as in -
>>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html
>>>
>>> 2) in my images all leaves originate from the apex of the shoot, whereas
>>> your imges at - http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999&res=640and 
>>> at -
>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Terminalia$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/3xFtSa7jWFo/rq4suJX2k-IJ
>>> show alternate leaves. Most other images available in the net also tally
>>> with both of you.
>>>
>>> However, after more search found my target at -
>>> http://ayurvedaelements.com/resources/spice/Terminalia%20belerica.png?timestamp=1266630963601.
>>>  Moreover, wiki says, "Two varieties of
>>> *T. belerica* are found in India..." -
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_bellirica.
>>>
>>> Thank you very much for giving me your valuable time and identifying
>>> this tree. I cannot express my gratitude in terms of words only.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Surajit
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Neil Soares wrote:
>>>
 Nice photograph Dr. Oudhia. To view my photograph please type '
 Terminalia bellirica Neil Soares' in the Mail Search box above and check my
 mail dated 15th April 2011.
   With regards,
 Neil Soares.

 --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, Pankaj Oudhia * wrote:


 From: Pankaj Oudhia 
 Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113771] roadside tree ID from Hooghly
 19-04-12 SK-2
 To: "Neil Soares" 
 Cc: "surajit koley" , "Tanay Bose" <
 tanaybos...@gmail.com>, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
 Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 12:04 PM

 My picture of Baheda (Terminalia bellirica) for comparison

 http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999&res=640

 regards

 Pankaj Oudhia

 On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Neil Soares 
 http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>
 > wrote:

   Hi,
  Have many of these trees on my property at Shahpur. Please also check
 my photographs of this which are in the archives of this group.
With regards,
 Neil Soares.

 --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, surajit koley 
 http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com>
 >* wrote:


 From: surajit koley 
 http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com>
 >
 Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113745] roadside tree ID from Hooghly
 19-04-12 SK-2
 To: "Neil Soares" 
 http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>
 >
 Cc: "Tanay Bose" 
 http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tanaybos...@gmail.com>>,
 indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
 Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 8:33 AM


 Good morning Sir and thank you.

 But the leaf stalk is much longer in my post than this description
 "Leaves are 8-20 cm long, 7.5-15 cm wide, on stalks 2.15 cm long" at
 http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html.

 Have a nice day Sir

 Regards,

 Surajit


 On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Neil Soares 
 http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>
 > wrote:

   Hi,
  This looks like Beheda [Terminalia bellirica].
With regards,
  Neil Soares.





>>

Re: [efloraofindia:114009] Book Chapter

2012-04-20 Thread ushadi Micromini
Congratulations Giby...

have you shared pictures of these mistletoes of India?

Is anybody looking at their medicinal properties?
Usha di


On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Giby Kuriakose wrote:

>
> Dear All,
>
> I am very glad to share with you a good news that the canopy research work
> that I have done in Kalakkad Mundanthurai Tiger Reserve, Tamil Nadu has
> been published as a chapter entitled "Mistletoes in the Wet Forest
> Canopies: Friends or Foes" (Giby Kuriakose, R. Ganesan and M. Soubadra
> Devi) in "Forest Canopies of South Asia-a glimpse" edited by M Soubadra
> Devi, T. Ganesh and Amrita Tripathy (2012) published by ATREE, Bangalore.
> It is not a highly technical research publication.
> Please find attached herewith the cover page and contents of the book.
>
> I thank all of you for the constant support that encourages me a lot for
> such productive works.
>
>
> Thanks and regards,
> Giby
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
>


-- 
Usha di
===


[efloraofindia:114008] Requesting id 20042012 ASP 05 (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)

2012-04-20 Thread shivaprakash adavanne (Google Docs)

I've shared an item with you:

Requesting id 20042012 ASP 05
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SHmBTc94F5D6Q26mype6nXz52fw_Ntu7HUHhz0MdaoY/edit

It's not an attachment -- it's stored online at Google Docs. To open this  
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Re: [efloraofindia:114007] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2

2012-04-20 Thread Satish Phadke
Recently I heard from someone that the glands are there as swollen petiole
rather than the conventional glands seen in other Terminalia species.
Thanks for the info though. Needs to dig further :(

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Vijayasankar wrote:

> Pl don't worry Satish ji. Surajit ji can't do that :) beacuse T. bellirica
> is perhaps the only species (in India at least) that do not have foliar
> glands. Sorry to disappoint you :)
> However, the posted pictures are of *Terminalia bellirica* as identified
> by Dr. Neil. We have observed variations in the size and shape of leaves as
> well as fruits in this species.
>
> Regards
>
> Vijayasankar Raman
> National Center for Natural Products Research
> University of Mississippi
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Satish Phadke wrote:
>
>> Surajit ji
>> May I request you one thing. Try to capture the glands at the base of
>> mature leaf. I am sure you will do that.
>> Unfortunately I don't have good photograph of these.
>> I recently learnt that every Terminalia has unique gland structure. Why
>> not have good photographs of each?
>> This request is even to other members.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley <
>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Neil Sir & Pankaj Sir,
>>>
>>> Good evening...
>>>
>>> I am now convinced that the plant/tree is *T. bellirica* as have been
>>> identified by you. Initially i was hesitant because -
>>>
>>> 1) because of the description of 2.15 cm long leaf-stalk as in -
>>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html
>>>
>>> 2) in my images all leaves originate from the apex of the shoot, whereas
>>> your imges at - http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999&res=640and 
>>> at -
>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Terminalia$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/3xFtSa7jWFo/rq4suJX2k-IJ
>>> show alternate leaves. Most other images available in the net also tally
>>> with both of you.
>>>
>>> However, after more search found my target at -
>>> http://ayurvedaelements.com/resources/spice/Terminalia%20belerica.png?timestamp=1266630963601.
>>>  Moreover, wiki says, "Two varieties of
>>> *T. belerica* are found in India..." -
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_bellirica.
>>>
>>> Thank you very much for giving me your valuable time and identifying
>>> this tree. I cannot express my gratitude in terms of words only.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Surajit
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Neil Soares wrote:
>>>
 Nice photograph Dr. Oudhia. To view my photograph please type '
 Terminalia bellirica Neil Soares' in the Mail Search box above and check my
 mail dated 15th April 2011.
   With regards,
 Neil Soares.

 --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, Pankaj Oudhia * wrote:


 From: Pankaj Oudhia 
 Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113771] roadside tree ID from Hooghly
 19-04-12 SK-2
 To: "Neil Soares" 
 Cc: "surajit koley" , "Tanay Bose" <
 tanaybos...@gmail.com>, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
 Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 12:04 PM

 My picture of Baheda (Terminalia bellirica) for comparison

 http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999&res=640

 regards

 Pankaj Oudhia

 On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Neil Soares 
 http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>
 > wrote:

   Hi,
  Have many of these trees on my property at Shahpur. Please also check
 my photographs of this which are in the archives of this group.
With regards,
 Neil Soares.

 --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, surajit koley 
 http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com>
 >* wrote:


 From: surajit koley 
 http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com>
 >
 Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113745] roadside tree ID from Hooghly
 19-04-12 SK-2
 To: "Neil Soares" 
 http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>
 >
 Cc: "Tanay Bose" 
 http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tanaybos...@gmail.com>>,
 indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
 Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 8:33 AM


 Good morning Sir and thank you.

 But the leaf stalk is much longer in my post than this description
 "Leaves are 8-20 cm long, 7.5-15 cm wide, on stalks 2.15 cm long" at
 http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html.

 Have a nice day Sir

 Regards,

 Surajit


 On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Neil Soares 
 http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>
 > wrote:

   Hi,
  This looks like Beheda [Terminalia bellirica].
W

[efloraofindia:114006] Requesting id 20042012 ASP 04 (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)

2012-04-20 Thread shivaprakash adavanne (Google Docs)

I've shared an item with you:

 Requesting id 20042012 ASP 04
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1udF3mFTCgSG1BWdPY66npmx8MDeDEUT5tDIIq5m2AU0/edit

It's not an attachment -- it's stored online at Google Docs. To open this  
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Re: [efloraofindia:114005] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2

2012-04-20 Thread surajit koley
Sir,

I would love to try to capture those glands. But it will be very difficult
for the *T. bellirica*, for i found this one in a place which doesn't fall
into my roaming area (i went there recently for a special training
session). Surely would keep a close watch on *T. arjuna* & *T. chebula*.

Yet, i will try to revisit the BAHERA whenever i get some break.

Thank you & Regards,

surajit

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Satish Phadke  wrote:

> Surajit ji
> May I request you one thing. Try to capture the glands at the base of
> mature leaf. I am sure you will do that.
> Unfortunately I don't have good photograph of these.
> I recently learnt that every Terminalia has unique gland structure. Why
> not have good photographs of each?
> This request is even to other members.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley <
> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Neil Sir & Pankaj Sir,
>>
>> Good evening...
>>
>> I am now convinced that the plant/tree is *T. bellirica* as have been
>> identified by you. Initially i was hesitant because -
>>
>> 1) because of the description of 2.15 cm long leaf-stalk as in -
>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html
>>
>> 2) in my images all leaves originate from the apex of the shoot, whereas
>> your imges at - http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999&res=640and 
>> at -
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Terminalia$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/3xFtSa7jWFo/rq4suJX2k-IJ
>> show alternate leaves. Most other images available in the net also tally
>> with both of you.
>>
>> However, after more search found my target at -
>> http://ayurvedaelements.com/resources/spice/Terminalia%20belerica.png?timestamp=1266630963601.
>>  Moreover, wiki says, "Two varieties of
>> *T. belerica* are found in India..." -
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_bellirica.
>>
>> Thank you very much for giving me your valuable time and identifying this
>> tree. I cannot express my gratitude in terms of words only.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Surajit
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Neil Soares wrote:
>>
>>> Nice photograph Dr. Oudhia. To view my photograph please type '
>>> Terminalia bellirica Neil Soares' in the Mail Search box above and check my
>>> mail dated 15th April 2011.
>>>   With regards,
>>> Neil Soares.
>>>
>>> --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, Pankaj Oudhia * wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Pankaj Oudhia 
>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113771] roadside tree ID from Hooghly
>>> 19-04-12 SK-2
>>> To: "Neil Soares" 
>>> Cc: "surajit koley" , "Tanay Bose" <
>>> tanaybos...@gmail.com>, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 12:04 PM
>>>
>>> My picture of Baheda (Terminalia bellirica) for comparison
>>>
>>> http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999&res=640
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> Pankaj Oudhia
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Neil Soares 
>>> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>   Hi,
>>>  Have many of these trees on my property at Shahpur. Please also check
>>> my photographs of this which are in the archives of this group.
>>>With regards,
>>> Neil Soares.
>>>
>>> --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, surajit koley 
>>> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com>
>>> >* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: surajit koley 
>>> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com>
>>> >
>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113745] roadside tree ID from Hooghly
>>> 19-04-12 SK-2
>>> To: "Neil Soares" 
>>> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>
>>> >
>>> Cc: "Tanay Bose" 
>>> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tanaybos...@gmail.com>>,
>>> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 8:33 AM
>>>
>>>
>>> Good morning Sir and thank you.
>>>
>>> But the leaf stalk is much longer in my post than this description
>>> "Leaves are 8-20 cm long, 7.5-15 cm wide, on stalks 2.15 cm long" at
>>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html.
>>>
>>> Have a nice day Sir
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Surajit
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Neil Soares 
>>> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>   Hi,
>>>  This looks like Beheda [Terminalia bellirica].
>>>With regards,
>>>  Neil Soares.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Dr Satish Phadke
>


Re: [efloraofindia:114004] Request Identification

2012-04-20 Thread Satish Phadke
This is *Capparis decidua/Capparis aphylla.*
As the name suggests you will not find leaves.
Local Marathi name : Nepti
BTW
May I request you not to use the simple subject line 
Instead please use line like Plant for ID 20/04/2012 GD1 etc which is your
initials and date. With common subject line the threads get mixed up.
(Posting guidelines)
Moderator
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Ganesh Dhamodkar <
ganesh.dhamod...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I am very happy to find this group on net. My main objective to learn more
> than to tell something new. I have been trying to identify this shrub for a
> long while.  It used to be in abundance near my native place at Manegaon,
> Dist: Buldhana , Maharashtra.  I have not seen
> this plant somewhere else.
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> 
> This plant does not have leaves.  It is all sticks.  The photos are taken
> in flowering season, May 2011. The fruits are berry-like and contain many
> seeds.  I've heard people make pickle of the fruits, but never seen someone
> actually making it (local people don't make pickle). Fruits turn pinkish
> after ripening.  The taste somewhat "tikha" plus sweet. Can someone
> identify this? Is any additional information needed?
>



-- 
Dr Satish Phadke


Re: [efloraofindia:114003] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2

2012-04-20 Thread Pankaj Oudhia
Welcome back Vijayashankar ji. Missed you a lot.

regards

Pankaj Oudhia

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Vijayasankar wrote:

> Pl don't worry Satish ji. Surajit ji can't do that :) beacuse T. bellirica
> is perhaps the only species (in India at least) that do not have foliar
> glands. Sorry to disappoint you :)
> However, the posted pictures are of *Terminalia bellirica* as identified
> by Dr. Neil. We have observed variations in the size and shape of leaves as
> well as fruits in this species.
>
> Regards
>
> Vijayasankar Raman
> National Center for Natural Products Research
> University of Mississippi
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Satish Phadke wrote:
>
>> Surajit ji
>> May I request you one thing. Try to capture the glands at the base of
>> mature leaf. I am sure you will do that.
>> Unfortunately I don't have good photograph of these.
>> I recently learnt that every Terminalia has unique gland structure. Why
>> not have good photographs of each?
>> This request is even to other members.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley <
>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Neil Sir & Pankaj Sir,
>>>
>>> Good evening...
>>>
>>> I am now convinced that the plant/tree is *T. bellirica* as have been
>>> identified by you. Initially i was hesitant because -
>>>
>>> 1) because of the description of 2.15 cm long leaf-stalk as in -
>>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html
>>>
>>> 2) in my images all leaves originate from the apex of the shoot, whereas
>>> your imges at - http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999&res=640and 
>>> at -
>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Terminalia$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/3xFtSa7jWFo/rq4suJX2k-IJ
>>> show alternate leaves. Most other images available in the net also tally
>>> with both of you.
>>>
>>> However, after more search found my target at -
>>> http://ayurvedaelements.com/resources/spice/Terminalia%20belerica.png?timestamp=1266630963601.
>>>  Moreover, wiki says, "Two varieties of
>>> *T. belerica* are found in India..." -
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_bellirica.
>>>
>>> Thank you very much for giving me your valuable time and identifying
>>> this tree. I cannot express my gratitude in terms of words only.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Surajit
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Neil Soares wrote:
>>>
 Nice photograph Dr. Oudhia. To view my photograph please type '
 Terminalia bellirica Neil Soares' in the Mail Search box above and check my
 mail dated 15th April 2011.
   With regards,
 Neil Soares.

 --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, Pankaj Oudhia * wrote:


 From: Pankaj Oudhia 
 Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113771] roadside tree ID from Hooghly
 19-04-12 SK-2
 To: "Neil Soares" 
 Cc: "surajit koley" , "Tanay Bose" <
 tanaybos...@gmail.com>, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
 Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 12:04 PM

 My picture of Baheda (Terminalia bellirica) for comparison

 http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999&res=640

 regards

 Pankaj Oudhia

 On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Neil Soares 
 http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>
 > wrote:

   Hi,
  Have many of these trees on my property at Shahpur. Please also check
 my photographs of this which are in the archives of this group.
With regards,
 Neil Soares.

 --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, surajit koley 
 http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com>
 >* wrote:


 From: surajit koley 
 http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com>
 >
 Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113745] roadside tree ID from Hooghly
 19-04-12 SK-2
 To: "Neil Soares" 
 http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>
 >
 Cc: "Tanay Bose" 
 http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tanaybos...@gmail.com>>,
 indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
 Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 8:33 AM


 Good morning Sir and thank you.

 But the leaf stalk is much longer in my post than this description
 "Leaves are 8-20 cm long, 7.5-15 cm wide, on stalks 2.15 cm long" at
 http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html.

 Have a nice day Sir

 Regards,

 Surajit


 On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Neil Soares 
 http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>
 > wrote:

   Hi,
  This looks like Beheda [Terminalia bellirica].
With regards,
  Neil Soares.






>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr Satish Phadke
>>

[efloraofindia:114002] Requesting id 20042012 ASP 03 (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)

2012-04-20 Thread shivaprakash adavanne (Google Docs)

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Re: [efloraofindia:114001] ORCHIDACEAE: Bulbophyllum wendlandianum (Kraenzl.) Dammer from Hong Kong (from Thailand)

2012-04-20 Thread Vijayasankar
Nice photo(shop) ! ;)

Regards

Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi


On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Satish Phadke wrote:

> Amazing flowers.
> First thought was.unimaginable!.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Nidhan Singh wrote:
>
>> Great pics Pankaj Ji,
>>
>> Very lovely indeed, artistic creation of mother nature...Thanks a lot for
>> showing such extraordinary pics...
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Dr. Nidhan Singh
>> Department of Botany
>> I.B. (PG) College
>> Panipat-132103 Haryana
>> Ph.: 09416371227
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Dr Satish Phadke
>


[efloraofindia:113998] Untitled document (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)

2012-04-20 Thread shivaprakash adavanne (Google Docs)

I've shared an item with you:

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[efloraofindia:114000] 20042012 ASP 02 (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)

2012-04-20 Thread shivaprakash adavanne (Google Docs)

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Re: [efloraofindia:113999] Book Chapter

2012-04-20 Thread Satish Phadke
Congrats Giby ji

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Muthu Karthick  wrote:

> Hearty congratulations Gibyji.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Balkar Singh wrote:
>
>> Many Many Congrts Giby Ji
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Vijayasankar 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Congratulations, dear Giby!
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Vijayasankar Raman
>>> National Center for Natural Products Research
>>> University of Mississippi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Giby Kuriakose <
>>> giby.kuriak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>

 Dear All,

 I am very glad to share with you a good news that the canopy research
 work that I have done in Kalakkad Mundanthurai Tiger Reserve, Tamil Nadu
 has been published as a chapter entitled "Mistletoes in the Wet Forest
 Canopies: Friends or Foes" (Giby Kuriakose, R. Ganesan and M. Soubadra
 Devi) in "Forest Canopies of South Asia-a glimpse" edited by M Soubadra
 Devi, T. Ganesh and Amrita Tripathy (2012) published by ATREE, Bangalore.
 It is not a highly technical research publication.
 Please find attached herewith the cover page and contents of the book.

 I thank all of you for the constant support that encourages me a lot
 for such productive works.


 Thanks and regards,
 Giby

 


 


 



>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards
>>
>> Dr Balkar Singh
>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
>> Arya P G College, Panipat
>> Haryana-132103
>> 09416262964
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Muthu Karthick, N
> Care Earth Trust
> #15, second main road,
> Thillai ganga nagar,
> Chennai - 600 061
> Mob: 0091 96268 33911
> www.careearthtrust.org
>
>


-- 
Dr Satish Phadke


Re: [efloraofindia:113997] Request Identification

2012-04-20 Thread Vijayasankar
Welcome Ganesh ji, to eFI group!

The plant looks like Capparis decidua
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capparis_decidua
Thanks for the description and other information.

Regards

Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi


On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Ganesh Dhamodkar <
ganesh.dhamod...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I am very happy to find this group on net. My main objective to learn more
> than to tell something new. I have been trying to identify this shrub for a
> long while.  It used to be in abundance near my native place at Manegaon,
> Dist: Buldhana , Maharashtra.  I have not seen
> this plant somewhere else.
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> 
> This plant does not have leaves.  It is all sticks.  The photos are taken
> in flowering season, May 2011. The fruits are berry-like and contain many
> seeds.  I've heard people make pickle of the fruits, but never seen someone
> actually making it (local people don't make pickle). Fruits turn pinkish
> after ripening.  The taste somewhat "tikha" plus sweet. Can someone
> identify this? Is any additional information needed?
>


Re: [efloraofindia:113996] Euphorbia for identification 190412MK01

2012-04-20 Thread Satish Phadke
Very unique stem!

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Vijayasankar wrote:

> Euphorbia nivulia.
>
> Regards
>
> Vijayasankar Raman
> National Center for Natural Products Research
> University of Mississippi
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 5:33 AM, Muthu Karthick  wrote:
>
>> *Dear all,
>> Please help me to identify this cactus like plant.
>>
>> Place: Danishpettai RF, Salem dist., TN
>> Altitude: 423 M asl
>> Date: 12 April 2012
>>
>> The leaves were withered off and I didn’t noticed any flowers or fruits.
>> The maximum height I saw was of c.5 metres and a girth of 40 cm.*
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/13CTmfE1xo95r_0vz4kJNORNWztD787JSWy8NQzSTrN4/edit?pli=1
>>
>> **
>>
>> **
>>
>> **
>>
>> **
>> **
>>
>> --
>> Muthu Karthick, N
>> Care Earth Trust
>> #15, second main road,
>> Thillai ganga nagar,
>> Chennai - 600 061
>> Mob: 0091 96268 33911
>> www.careearthtrust.org
>>
>>
>


-- 
Dr Satish Phadke


Re: [efloraofindia:113995] seedpod : Oxalis sp. from Hooghly

2012-04-20 Thread ushadi Micromini
Yes Surajit...

Impatiens  in particular the garden balsam called *Impatiens balsamina is
our DOPATI...

*usha di *
===
*
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:17 PM, surajit koley <
surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you Sir, that *Impatiens* seems to be my DOPATI !
>
> Regards,
>
> Surajit
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Gurcharan Singh wrote:
>
>> Yes Satish ji
>> More so in Impatiens (Balsam), later they burst of their own (autochory).
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>> Retired  Associate Professor
>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Satish Phadke wrote:
>>
>>> Have you observed the interesting phenonmenon of mature seed pods? When
>>> you touch the seedpod it  explodes spreading the seeds to far away
>>> distance.a mechanism of seed pispersal.
>>>  On Apr 20, 2012 7:23 AM, "surajit koley" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Good morning Sir
 Thank you very much.

 Regards,

 Surajit

 On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:16 AM, Gurcharan Singh wrote:

> Yes, nice photographs Surajit ji
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
Usha di
===


Re: [efloraofindia:113994] Re: Mimosaceae Tree for identification 190412MK03

2012-04-20 Thread Satish Phadke
Acacia suma. Now included into ?A.ferruginea.

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Mahadeswara  wrote:

> *Acacia polyacantha * (syn. *A.suma*)   There are four sup species.
> Check  the characters and decide the sub sp.
>
>
> On Friday, April 20, 2012 12:17:54 AM UTC+5:30, Muthu Karthick, N wrote:
>>
>> *Dear all,
>> Please help me to identify this tree species. Is this Acacia sp.? I
>> could not see the flowers. Leaves were of 12-15 cm longer (young leaves).
>> The height of the tree was up to 10 metres and a girth of about 50cm.
>>
>> Location: Bommiampatty RF; Salem dist., TN
>> Terrain: scrub and thorny forest
>> Altitude: c. 410 M ASL*
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/**document/d/1fQyGB4EUW8ir-**
>> iROPW9UE61nTWVie1cQHKHgZWKKccA**/edit
>>
>> Date: 15 Apr 2012**
>> **
>> **
>> **
>> *
>> *
>> --
>> Muthu Karthick, N
>> Care Earth Trust
>> #15, second main road,
>> Thillai ganga nagar,
>> Chennai - 600 061
>> Mob: 0091 96268 33911
>> www.careearthtrust.org
>>
>>


-- 
Dr Satish Phadke


[efloraofindia:113993] Requesting id 20042012 ASP 01 (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)

2012-04-20 Thread shivaprakash adavanne (Google Docs)

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Re: [efloraofindia:113992] ORCHIDACEAE: Bulbophyllum wendlandianum (Kraenzl.) Dammer from Hong Kong (from Thailand)

2012-04-20 Thread Satish Phadke
Amazing flowers.
First thought was.unimaginable!.

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Nidhan Singh wrote:

> Great pics Pankaj Ji,
>
> Very lovely indeed, artistic creation of mother nature...Thanks a lot for
> showing such extraordinary pics...
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Dr. Nidhan Singh
> Department of Botany
> I.B. (PG) College
> Panipat-132103 Haryana
> Ph.: 09416371227
>
>


-- 
Dr Satish Phadke


Re: [efloraofindia:113991] Strychnos nux-vomica (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)

2012-04-20 Thread ushadi Micromini
Yes, very nice
Usha di


On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Satish Phadke  wrote:

> Beautiful shots Prashant.
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Prashant Awale (Google Docs) <
> pkaw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  [image: Document] I've shared Strychnos nux-vomica
>> 
>>  Click to open:
>>
>>- Strychnos nux-vomica
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> Dear Friends,
>>
>> Sharing few photographs of  Strychnos nux-vomica.
>>
>> Family: Loganiaceae.
>>
>> Location: Sagar Upwan, Colaba, Mumbai.
>>
>> Date/Time: 14-04-2012 / 07:20AM.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Prashant
>>
>>
>> Google Docs makes it easy to create, store and share online documents,
>> spreadsheets and presentations.
>> [image: Logo for Google Docs] 
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Dr Satish Phadke
>



-- 
Usha di
===


Re: [efloraofindia:113990] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2

2012-04-20 Thread ushadi Micromini
@ Vijay: good to know
Thanks
Usha di
==

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Vijayasankar wrote:

> Pl don't worry Satish ji. Surajit ji can't do that :) beacuse T. bellirica
> is perhaps the only species (in India at least) that do not have foliar
> glands. Sorry to disappoint you :)
> However, the posted pictures are of *Terminalia bellirica* as identified
> by Dr. Neil. We have observed variations in the size and shape of leaves as
> well as fruits in this species.
>
> Regards
>
> Vijayasankar Raman
> National Center for Natural Products Research
> University of Mississippi
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Satish Phadke wrote:
>
>> Surajit ji
>> May I request you one thing. Try to capture the glands at the base of
>> mature leaf. I am sure you will do that.
>> Unfortunately I don't have good photograph of these.
>> I recently learnt that every Terminalia has unique gland structure. Why
>> not have good photographs of each?
>> This request is even to other members.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley <
>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Neil Sir & Pankaj Sir,
>>>
>>> Good evening...
>>>
>>> I am now convinced that the plant/tree is *T. bellirica* as have been
>>> identified by you. Initially i was hesitant because -
>>>
>>> 1) because of the description of 2.15 cm long leaf-stalk as in -
>>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html
>>>
>>> 2) in my images all leaves originate from the apex of the shoot, whereas
>>> your imges at - http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999&res=640and 
>>> at -
>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Terminalia$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/3xFtSa7jWFo/rq4suJX2k-IJ
>>> show alternate leaves. Most other images available in the net also tally
>>> with both of you.
>>>
>>> However, after more search found my target at -
>>> http://ayurvedaelements.com/resources/spice/Terminalia%20belerica.png?timestamp=1266630963601.
>>>  Moreover, wiki says, "Two varieties of
>>> *T. belerica* are found in India..." -
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_bellirica.
>>>
>>> Thank you very much for giving me your valuable time and identifying
>>> this tree. I cannot express my gratitude in terms of words only.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Surajit
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Neil Soares wrote:
>>>
 Nice photograph Dr. Oudhia. To view my photograph please type '
 Terminalia bellirica Neil Soares' in the Mail Search box above and check my
 mail dated 15th April 2011.
   With regards,
 Neil Soares.

 --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, Pankaj Oudhia * wrote:


 From: Pankaj Oudhia 
 Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113771] roadside tree ID from Hooghly
 19-04-12 SK-2
 To: "Neil Soares" 
 Cc: "surajit koley" , "Tanay Bose" <
 tanaybos...@gmail.com>, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
 Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 12:04 PM

 My picture of Baheda (Terminalia bellirica) for comparison

 http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999&res=640

 regards

 Pankaj Oudhia

 On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Neil Soares 
 http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>
 > wrote:

   Hi,
  Have many of these trees on my property at Shahpur. Please also check
 my photographs of this which are in the archives of this group.
With regards,
 Neil Soares.

 --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, surajit koley 
 http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com>
 >* wrote:


 From: surajit koley 
 http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com>
 >
 Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113745] roadside tree ID from Hooghly
 19-04-12 SK-2
 To: "Neil Soares" 
 http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>
 >
 Cc: "Tanay Bose" 
 http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tanaybos...@gmail.com>>,
 indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
 Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 8:33 AM


 Good morning Sir and thank you.

 But the leaf stalk is much longer in my post than this description
 "Leaves are 8-20 cm long, 7.5-15 cm wide, on stalks 2.15 cm long" at
 http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html.

 Have a nice day Sir

 Regards,

 Surajit


 On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Neil Soares 
 http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>
 > wrote:

   Hi,
  This looks like Beheda [Terminalia bellirica].
With regards,
  Neil Soares.






>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr Satish Phadke
>>
>
>


-- 
Usha di
===

Re: [efloraofindia:113989] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2

2012-04-20 Thread Vijayasankar
Pl don't worry Satish ji. Surajit ji can't do that :) beacuse T. bellirica
is perhaps the only species (in India at least) that do not have foliar
glands. Sorry to disappoint you :)
However, the posted pictures are of *Terminalia bellirica* as identified by
Dr. Neil. We have observed variations in the size and shape of leaves as
well as fruits in this species.

Regards

Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi


On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Satish Phadke wrote:

> Surajit ji
> May I request you one thing. Try to capture the glands at the base of
> mature leaf. I am sure you will do that.
> Unfortunately I don't have good photograph of these.
> I recently learnt that every Terminalia has unique gland structure. Why
> not have good photographs of each?
> This request is even to other members.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley <
> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Neil Sir & Pankaj Sir,
>>
>> Good evening...
>>
>> I am now convinced that the plant/tree is *T. bellirica* as have been
>> identified by you. Initially i was hesitant because -
>>
>> 1) because of the description of 2.15 cm long leaf-stalk as in -
>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html
>>
>> 2) in my images all leaves originate from the apex of the shoot, whereas
>> your imges at - http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999&res=640and 
>> at -
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Terminalia$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/3xFtSa7jWFo/rq4suJX2k-IJ
>> show alternate leaves. Most other images available in the net also tally
>> with both of you.
>>
>> However, after more search found my target at -
>> http://ayurvedaelements.com/resources/spice/Terminalia%20belerica.png?timestamp=1266630963601.
>>  Moreover, wiki says, "Two varieties of
>> *T. belerica* are found in India..." -
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_bellirica.
>>
>> Thank you very much for giving me your valuable time and identifying this
>> tree. I cannot express my gratitude in terms of words only.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Surajit
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Neil Soares wrote:
>>
>>> Nice photograph Dr. Oudhia. To view my photograph please type '
>>> Terminalia bellirica Neil Soares' in the Mail Search box above and check my
>>> mail dated 15th April 2011.
>>>   With regards,
>>> Neil Soares.
>>>
>>> --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, Pankaj Oudhia * wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Pankaj Oudhia 
>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113771] roadside tree ID from Hooghly
>>> 19-04-12 SK-2
>>> To: "Neil Soares" 
>>> Cc: "surajit koley" , "Tanay Bose" <
>>> tanaybos...@gmail.com>, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 12:04 PM
>>>
>>> My picture of Baheda (Terminalia bellirica) for comparison
>>>
>>> http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999&res=640
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> Pankaj Oudhia
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Neil Soares 
>>> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>   Hi,
>>>  Have many of these trees on my property at Shahpur. Please also check
>>> my photographs of this which are in the archives of this group.
>>>With regards,
>>> Neil Soares.
>>>
>>> --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, surajit koley 
>>> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com>
>>> >* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: surajit koley 
>>> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com>
>>> >
>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113745] roadside tree ID from Hooghly
>>> 19-04-12 SK-2
>>> To: "Neil Soares" 
>>> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>
>>> >
>>> Cc: "Tanay Bose" 
>>> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tanaybos...@gmail.com>>,
>>> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 8:33 AM
>>>
>>>
>>> Good morning Sir and thank you.
>>>
>>> But the leaf stalk is much longer in my post than this description
>>> "Leaves are 8-20 cm long, 7.5-15 cm wide, on stalks 2.15 cm long" at
>>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html.
>>>
>>> Have a nice day Sir
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Surajit
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Neil Soares 
>>> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>   Hi,
>>>  This looks like Beheda [Terminalia bellirica].
>>>With regards,
>>>  Neil Soares.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Dr Satish Phadke
>


[efloraofindia:113988] Request Identification

2012-04-20 Thread Ganesh Dhamodkar
Dear all,
 
I am very happy to find this group on net. My main objective to learn more 
than to tell something new. I have been trying to identify this shrub for a 
long while.  It used to be in abundance near my native place at Manegaon, 
Dist: Buldhana , Maharashtra.  I have not seen this 
plant somewhere else.
 

 


This plant does not have leaves.  It is all sticks.  The photos are taken 
in flowering season, May 2011. The fruits are berry-like and contain many 
seeds.  I've heard people make pickle of the fruits, but never seen someone 
actually making it (local people don't make pickle). Fruits turn pinkish 
after ripening.  The taste somewhat "tikha" plus sweet. Can someone 
identify this? Is any additional information needed?


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